1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation, Jonesy and I have been fangirling 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: all morning. We're so excited to have this man in 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: the studio. He's an incredibly talented author, producer, television presenter, comedian. 4 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: His first three novels, The Thursday Murder Club, The Man 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: Who Died Twice The Bullet That Missed were record breaking 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: best sellers around the world. He's just released a new one, 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: The Last Devil to Die. Richard Osmond, Hello, Hello, how 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: lovely to be here. We have become obsessed with you 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: and your books. I have a friend in Melbourne who's 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: a GP and during the harshness of the lockdown that 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: Melbourne went through during the pandemic, if clients came to her, obviously, 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 1: if they had depression or something serious, that was one thing, 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: but if they were just feeling a bit down, she 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: recommended your book. She'd write it down and she said, 15 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: this will make you feel better. And they have that ability, 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: don't they. 17 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: Well, listen, I don't think that should be official medical advice. 18 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: It's lovely to hear, but certainly, you know, if you've 19 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: if you've broken your leg, go to a proper doctor. 20 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: Don't read the books. But yeah, I think, and I 21 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: hope that there are characters in them that people like 22 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: and they make people laugh. I was unaware I was 23 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: a healer. 24 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: You are a healer. 25 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: That's nice to know, yes, And I like the evolution 26 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 3: of the characters as well, because when you first start 27 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 3: reading it, it's said in a retirement home, and really, 28 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 3: that's not sexy stuff? 29 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: Is it? 30 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: As I get older, it's looking. 31 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: More I find with older people, like I've recently taken 32 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,559 Speaker 3: out a hobby on the weekend called swearing or sailing. 33 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: Now it's usually sailing, but it's all old blakes that swear. 34 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: At each Oh. 35 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: And the only reason I do it is I'm the 36 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 3: youngest on the bat but. 37 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: You have to look a long way for that. 38 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 3: And we had one guy on the boat, George, who 39 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 3: we recently lost this year, but he was eighty three. Yeah, 40 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: but we'd be sailing and there'd be a moment of 41 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 3: calm and then he'd say, it's like that time I 42 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: rode from Perth to Sydney and you go, oh, what 43 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: on a motorbike? Guess no, I want a pushbike. 44 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: And you go sure, and he just brings this out, Well, 45 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: this is listen in our culture and I'm certain Australia 46 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: is the same is the UK. Older people become invisible, right, 47 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: we overlook them, we underestimate them, and the whole of 48 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: our culture is about younger people. You know, it's all 49 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: Instagrammers on boats, you know, trying to sell us boatox 50 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: And actually you've got this generation who, as you say, 51 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: have done extraordinary things, who've got amazing things in their past. 52 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: They've got this wisdom. So I've got four detectives who 53 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: are invisible but incredibly wise. So every door is open 54 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: to them, you know everyone, you know, they can interview 55 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 2: whoever they want. But the key thing being putting older 56 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: people right at the heart of culture, and that's what 57 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: That's what people love because they haven't been there for 58 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: so long. 59 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: And also they're retiring very well. In that retirement home. 60 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: I want to put my name down for that. They 61 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: lug wine at every man. Second. 62 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's a real place because my mum lives. Yeah, 63 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 2: my mum lives in a retirement community. That's what That's 64 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 2: where I got the idea from. I would go down 65 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: there and these people. At first, it's beautiful, very English, 66 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: you know, the sort of green fields and the sort 67 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: of birds flying over the trees and you think, oh, 68 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: this would be an amazing place for a murder. We 69 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: all think that exactly and then yeah, you meet everyone 70 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 2: there and you think, well, if there was a murder, 71 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: I bet you'd solve it. 72 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: Love it. I've got something for show. Until my husband 73 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: and I were obsessed with Pointless, which is a TV 74 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: show where you played the brainiac. 75 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: Yes, I played the brainiac. 76 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: Great acting, thank you so much. So one Christmas under 77 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: the Christmas tree was this, Wow, the pointless trophy purchased 78 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: from eBay. 79 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: From eBay, yes. 80 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: Well it was a gift, so I didn't like to 81 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: ask eight dollars like that. Well, I think he might 82 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: have paid a bit more and so heavy. It came 83 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: from England. So a past winner has been selling the goods. 84 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: Do you get your husband on the phone and get 85 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: the name of the person who sold it? 86 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: Rageous. 87 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: Let's not kill them, let's just warn them, you know, 88 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: come on, that's well, listen this. I'm glad you have one. 89 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: But the idea mind you, when you win, you win 90 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: in a couple and you both get a pointless trophy. 91 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 2: So maybe it was a husband and wife. It's a 92 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: solid piece of stuff. Isn't it. 93 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: It really is. 94 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: That's definitely a potential murder weapon. 95 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: You must see this everywhere now, everywhere you look you 96 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: see murder weapons. 97 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: Of course, and victims and all sorts of things. Yeah. Sorry, 98 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: I shouldn't have said and victims when I looked, thank you. 99 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: And it would be an honor, rich It would be 100 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: an honor. 101 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 3: Will he's going to take a sailing if we went 102 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 3: sailing with Richard and he takes that. 103 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: Thing with us and one of you comes back. 104 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 3: Exactly, Richard, it's great to talk to you. The last 105 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 3: devil to die is out now. I'm saving it for 106 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 3: my Christmas wreaths. 107 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: And Stephen Spielberg has bought the rights any bigger Richard, exactly. 108 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: And we're filming. We're filming. Well, I was going to 109 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: say we're filming in the spring, but that's your autumn, 110 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: isn't it filming in March? So it's happening. Yeah, can 111 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: you give us anything. 112 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: We all have theories as to who they should be. 113 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, who are your theories? 114 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: Well? I think the actress who is in Afterlife should 115 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: be Joyce, the. 116 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: Actress Penelope Wilton. Yes, yeah, she'd be. 117 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: Great, she'd be great. Do you think maybe Helen Mirren 118 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: for Elizabeth. 119 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, all the dames. 120 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: You'll get all the dames out. 121 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: If you're not a dame, you're not coming in. 122 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,119 Speaker 1: Atkins could be the psychiatrist. 123 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, I think there's a place for Bill Nigh 124 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: in there. There's going to be some Bill. Is there 125 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 2: anywhere in the world where it isn't. 126 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: The place of Bill ny He's been on your sailing boat. 127 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: I'm sure. We had Liam Neeson on the show, did you? 128 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 3: And we suggested because he hadn't read the book, and 129 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 3: and he said, I've got to read this book, and 130 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: Manda disagree with me. I was going to go a 131 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 3: little bit. I was thinking maybe bog down, but not 132 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: as a but not as a Polish guy, young and spunky, must. 133 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: I mean Liam, because you know the actors and this 134 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: have got to age up a little bit, because you 135 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 2: know with the books, I can concertina it a little bit. 136 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 2: But with the films, you know, if they make one 137 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: every three years, you know by the fifth one you're 138 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: going to be fifteen years older. So you might want 139 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: to start a little bit younger. Liam's Liam seventy seventy 140 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 2: one perfect. If Liam Needson does it, then I have 141 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: you both to think that's right. Thank you. I think 142 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: this sounds like you'll be on the credits. 143 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. Good, Richard Osmond, thank you. 144 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 2: Such a pleasure. Thank you.