WEBVTT - Mates, money, and mistrust: Mitchell Coombs vs Mitch Churi 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:11.639 You are now entering the court of Judge Gina Leano. 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:18.360 It's been said that friendship and money are like oil 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:18.960 and water. 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:20.160 They never mix. 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:23.360 When you have a dispute that needs settling once and 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:27.280 for all, you come to my courtroom. I am Judge Gina, 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:29.160 and my decision is final. 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:35.040 Today Mitch Combs has brought Mitch Chury to Judge Gina 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:39.400 over a money misunderstanding. He is seeking eight hundred dollars 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:43.840 in financial compensation for podcast equipment he believes he should 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:44.879 not have had to pay for. 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:49.000 My name's Mitchell Coombs. I'm a stand up comedian, a 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:51.440 social media creator and I co host. 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:52.600 The podcast Is It Just Me. 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:55.640 I've come on Judge Gina today because I feel that 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:59.279 my former friends and current co host Mitch Churry had 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:03.080 ripped me off. A near and dear friend, He's ripped 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:03.440 me off. 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:06.640 My name is Mitch Churi. I'm the host of the 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:10.240 Night Show on Kiss FM, the national evening show on Kiss. 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:12.720 I also host the three pm pick Up Around Australia 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:15.720 on the Kiss network. Oh Shit. I'm also the host 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:18.880 of the iHeartRadio exclusive podcast Is It Just Me? With 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:22.679 Mitchell Kerbs, my co host. I've come to defend myself 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:26.240 and my family's honor. I believe I've been defamed. I've 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:29.000 been dragged here today over what I thought was a 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:32.880 simple transaction with a good friend that has turned very sour. 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:36.720 I've known the other Mitch since twenty seventeen. I met 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:39.440 him when I started working at the same radio station 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:40.560 he was already working at. 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:45.279 Mitch and I have been friends for goodness me five six, 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:48.880 last seven years now, a long time, and I consider 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:52.360 him one of my best friends. But maybe not for 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:53.000 much longer. 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:55.640 There's been a lot of tension behind the scenes of 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:58.960 our podcast, but we're finally ready to put this to bed. 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.080 Okay, So we've got the two Mitches here, Mitch Kumbs 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:17.440 and Mitch Churi. So I'm going to start with Mitch 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:20.160 Kombs because it's your application today. 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:23.040 You want interesting, you want an amount? Excuse me? 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.520 No, no, I'm apologies. No, I just more meant that 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:29.320 it was it's interesting that you apologies, Janet, No, I'm sorry. Okay, 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:30.120 what's not interesting? 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:31.079 No, it is interesting. 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:31.880 You are interesting. 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.200 Okay, I'll ignite you to speak. You can stop there, 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:34.600 thank you. 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:35.640 No, sorry, I didn't be you. 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:38.760 I'm going to refer to you both by your surname. 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:42.800 So I'm going to ask Coombs if you can just 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:46.239 tell me a bit about your relationship. So are you friends? 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:49.399 Do you work together? How long have you known each other? 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:49.760 Well? 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:52.280 Both, we've known each other for quite a few years now, 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:54.880 I think it was twenty seventeen. We started working together. 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:58.079 We were colleagues and then became very close friends. And then, 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:02.320 like all friends, we thought, God, our conversations deserve to 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:04.880 be recorded and broadcast. So we started the podcast as 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:07.519 a couple of mitches and it's been a good few 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:11.600 years now, running strong and very minimal fights in that time. 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:14.079 So your podcast is about wash. 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.600 Well, it's called Is It Just Me? That's the name 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:17.400 of the podcast. 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:20.040 Okay, I wanted the name to be Mitch please, like 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:23.040 bitch please, but Mitch please, but Mitch wanted is It 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:23.400 Just Me? 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.680 And so it's every week we get together and debrief 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:28.799 something we've noticed, hate or appreciate. 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:30.560 It's a bit of improv bit of fun. 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:31.480 All right. 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:34.680 So I'm going to come to you, mister Tury fantastic, 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:37.640 tell me about because I can see the burning desire 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:38.720 to say something. 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:41.240 No, no, I just know it's just because I've seen 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:41.400 the GW. 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:51.960 Stop mister Cury, okay, so I no stop. I'm just 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.440 going to ask you some questions and if you can 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:58.680 just answer, okay, don't one word, answer, just concisely as 0:03:58.720 --> 0:03:59.960 you can, that would be got. 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:00.680 Okay. 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:04.440 So you've known mister Coombe since about twenty seventeen. 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:06.200 You've heard what he said. Do you agree with all that? 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:06.960 Yes? 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:07.360 Correct. 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:09.840 We met on his birthday actually, and I had already 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:12.400 worked at the radio station since twenty fifteen, so I 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:15.240 extended the olive branch. I think I probably wanted to 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:16.920 maybe get with him at the start, maybe take him 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:19.000 on a dinner or something, but he quite quickly you've 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:21.840 seen his personality. It didn't work. We didn't click in 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:25.599 that respect, so it was strictly platonic straight away. But 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:27.799 we met on his birthday. Then the podcast was born, 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:29.560 you know, two years later. 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:33.520 Fantastic all right, So you actually there was an attraction there, 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:34.680 but it didn't. 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:37.760 Get Yes, I found Mitchell Kuhmb circa twenty seventeen attractive, 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:38.719 and I'm not afraid to say it. 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:41.719 There you go, there's a compliment for you. So I've 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:45.120 got an application here from mister Coombs he wants an 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:48.400 amount that he paid you for a road cast paid 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:50.599 back to him. So I'm just going to ask you 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.839 some questions about this road cast. So, yes, you were 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:56.640 given a road caster for free during lockdown? 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:57.159 Is that right? 0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:58.359 Yeah? Correct? 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:00.880 So tell me that story. Yeah, yes, So I host. 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:03.480 I still host the same show, the night show, and 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:06.279 that show during COVID had to go from home, so 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:08.320 I had to record the show from my broom. Closs 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.159 and the good people at road It's an Australian brand. 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:13.359 They sent me a road caster, which is like a 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:15.919 little mini radio. Yeah, here it is. It's right in 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:16.080 with this. 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:17.560 What is it? What is it an? 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:20.440 It's a mini broadcast console, Gina. So if you've been 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:22.839 in a radio studio you'll know, or a podcast studio. 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:26.279 There's a desk. It's probably the size of like a 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:30.640 large Domino's pizza just going off, you know what I know. 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.840 And you can control the microphone levels, you can put 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:36.560 calls through it, sound effect, you can make wacky sounds. 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:38.320 You have a lot of fun with it. Gena action 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:40.159 now that I'm thinking of you playing with it, but 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:43.920 I enjoyed it. So I play with this roadcast. I 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:47.400 do my successful radio show and then covid ends. So 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:49.640 I put it on gum Tree and I had bids, Gina, 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:50.800 I had bids. 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:53.120 No, No, I'm going to stop you because I'm going 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:54.560 to ask you some questions. 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:56.120 Oh you did say that? 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:57.719 Sorry, say that, okay. 0:05:57.839 --> 0:05:59.920 So in early twenty twenty two, you put it on 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.440 gum tree for sale? How much was it for sale? 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:05.080 How much we're selling it for one thousand dollars and 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.680 you got it for free, but that's you. It was 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:10.960 yours to keep it. It was given to me, yes, 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:14.799 givens okay, and they didn't expect that. Rhades didn't expect 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:16.920 you to return that to them at any stage. 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:18.320 No, it was not on loan. 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:22.400 It was gifted, okay, and then you purchased something else 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:22.760 to do. 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:26.320 I was gifted the new model by road they're good friends, 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:28.520 and they sent me the road Caster too. It had 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:31.280 been obviously two years. They had new technology, and they. 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:33.880 Read cast Pro doesn't even know what it's called road. 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:37.040 Caster Pro too, and they said, you love the first one. 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:39.040 Your show has been so successful. We've seen the press, 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.680 the billboards. We will give you the new model. And 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:44.120 I said fantastic. So that's why I put it up. 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:47.240 I didn't need it's been two years. And it had 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:48.840 been two years and I thought, let's let's just get 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:50.120 some some pocket money for it. 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:53.520 Okay, so you'd already put it up for sale, but 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:56.440 you said that that mister Combs could buy it for 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:57.560 a cheaper price. 0:06:57.720 --> 0:06:58.320 Is that right? 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:01.520 Well, what happened was we were my home studio which 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:04.080 had the new road caster, and I was showing it off. 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:06.040 I was saying, look at this beautiful new item of 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:09.600 kit that I've been gifted graciously by road in Australian business. 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:13.200 And then Mitchell goes, oh, you had an old one, 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:14.720 and I said, yeah, I've got an old one. I'm 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:16.680 actually selling it. He and I I'd love to get one. 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:20.320 I'm in the market for a road caster myself. And 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:23.120 then I said, well fantastic. You know, if you want one, 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:26.360 I'm not using it, and he said great, I'll have it. 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:28.080 I went awesome, we'll pack it up and we'll get 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:29.880 it to you, and off he took with his new 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:31.800 road caster, and. 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:33.120 He didn't talk price. 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:37.800 Well, I believe price was mentioned. It's very rude to 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.360 sort of throw around price straight away. I think I 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:43.520 said something along the lines of we'll chat details. I'll 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:46.240 text you about detail. We'll talk the road caster detail. 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:48.520 We're very close, you see, so we'll talk cash. I 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:50.160 think I could have said later. 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:52.840 I'm going to go to mister Coombs now, I think, 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:53.960 do you say happened? 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:57.800 I don't even know where to start when it comes 0:07:57.840 --> 0:07:59.040 to unpacking the FIBs. 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:00.800 I've been nowhere. 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:06.840 Okay, So firstly, it all came about via a phone call. 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:09.720 We were on the phone for some reason and you 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.240 just mentioned, oh my god, I just got sent the 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:15.400 new road cast of the road Caster pro to the upgrade, 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.440 and he was gloating about that it was a freebein. 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:19.120 I was like, oh wait, so can I have your 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:21.120 old one? And he's like yeah, yeah. 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:23.720 And did he did you know that it was for saving? 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:25.840 There was no mention of that until after it was 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:26.520 in my possession. 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:29.000 Did you know that he had it advertised and that 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.400 he'd had on the market for a week, and that. 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:35.200 In fact that I would challenge him to present screenshots 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:37.520 of the ad because I'm not sure that they it 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:40.679 ever went on Marketplace or gum Tree, whatever it was. 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:43.640 Did you know that he'd been asking for one thousand dollars? 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:44.880 I had no idea. 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:46.640 No, there was no When did you find that out? 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:47.920 When did you find out. 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:49.880 After the fact after I already had it? 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:50.960 When is how long? 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.520 When when he got it to me? That was a 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:55.959 week or so after this phone call? So one week 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:59.640 later he delivered it probably, and it was we were 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.800 at my I have for delivery. We were recording an interview. 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:04.800 Did he say anything when he delivered it. 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:05.360 No. 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:08.400 He brought it in a box and said here, because 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:09.559 we're doing a recording. 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:11.880 I want to know the words he used when he 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:12.960 gave you the box. 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:16.120 Well, the words were essentially, here you go. 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:18.160 I'll just leave this at your house when we're done 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:21.000 with it, because I've got one back at home, right. 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:22.720 And did that later conversation happen? 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.280 I bump him maybe a week later because I hadn't 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.600 received cash, So I just said, you. 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:30.960 Have received cash. You haven't told him what the cash's later? Later? 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:32.280 This is a week later. 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:34.760 Now if more, it was expecting him, as a good 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:36.520 close friend of mine and someone that I could have 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:39.680 potentially once slept with, to have offered out and gone Hi, Mitchell, 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:42.320 thanks for the road caster. What are you for that 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:47.760 old friend? When in fact radio silence. So then I said, look, 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.160 I'd like eight hundred dollars for it. I'm selling it 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:52.679 for a thousand. You've got my account details because we've 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:55.840 had dinner together. Just transfer me eight hundred bucks and 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:58.920 I'd prefer cash, is what I said, because I wanted 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:01.240 it to be off the books. Off the books, yeh 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:02.200 l Chapo style. 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:06.560 I'll caution you, as a judge would that anything you 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.920 say may be used against you, and so I will 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:10.480 caution you. 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:12.240 That you need to say nothing further. 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.800 Thank you terms of that, and I won't be asking 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:18.079 you any and if you are asked any questions, you're 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:19.480 not compelled to answer them. 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:23.760 Oh I would have liked to have known that. Show 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:25.240 you there, Thank you judge. 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:27.559 All right, So you want a d eight hundred dollars 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:34.959 for the for the road casting pastor that's heavily discounted. 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:36.720 Is it two hundred dollars? Okay? 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:39.680 But you didn't ask him for money, so you gave 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:42.360 it to him. He took possession of it and there 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:43.679 was no discussion of money. 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:45.800 Well, how dare he assume that it was a free gift. 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:47.600 I mean, I don't want to get routy here, but 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:49.360 the men he assumed it was free. 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:51.280 Well you didn't tell him otherwise. 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:54.120 I can't recall what the wording was, but I'm a 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:57.200 very it's not your time. I can't was it's not 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:00.120 your time because I said it's for sale. I said, yes, 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.960 it's for sale. If you would like to purchase it, 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:05.800 is what I said, Then we can organize a deal. 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:08.880 Judge in it. Can I make one other edition? If 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.720 I could, you'd assume, being a good friend, Mitch would 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:13.599 just transfer me the money. Of course I have for 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.560 some quips, you know, with that lizard tongue of his. However, 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:22.240 he asked me to formulate an invoice and then forward 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:25.080 it to him so he could make it a tax 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:28.599 deductible purchase and or you know what I want. I 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:30.120 wanted to do with the money. I won't repeat that, 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:32.240 but I had to then formulate it. 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:35.520 Not everybody is wanting to evade tax, you see. 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:38.400 That's the issue here, I think. 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:42.560 I mean, I would suggest that if mister Coombs is 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:46.360 in the business of podcast and radio, that something is 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:49.800 that he purchases could be a tax deduction. Correct, So 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:53.920 I would suggest that's a very fair and valid request 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:57.800 to have a tax invoice. But My question is the 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:00.719 tax invoice was for eight hundred dollars and did you 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:01.200 pay it? 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:03.680 And when I did pay. 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:07.679 It, which I was, I did ask him to do 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:09.800 the invoice. I was kind of relying on his lazy 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:11.160 and it's thinking you'd never get around to it. 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:14.360 But much to my suppose buying time, I was, you know, I. 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:16.679 Had to watch a YouTube tutorial and what nobody made 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:18.839 the invoice? Zero zero zero two? Like I just make 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:20.079 it up as I go to be honest. 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:22.640 Right, Okay, well, I'm sure you're not selling many of 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:26.200 these things and they it's probably a one one invoice 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:27.280 in your whole lifetime. 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:29.720 Correct, Yes, yes, you're. 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:33.080 Right right, So you've got your eight hundred dollars you 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:36.959 paid that? When did you pay that, mister Koombs. I 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:40.000 can't remember exactly when that one was later a month later, 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:42.520 two days, it was late. I reckon it would have 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:44.360 been about a month later, because you got me the 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:47.040 invoice eventually, and I. 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:48.959 Remember not putting food on the table for my family 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.240 that so it would be late. 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.760 Yeah, you couldn't put food on the table for your family, 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:56.840 so you just you were. 0:12:57.520 --> 0:12:59.680 I'm believing, Yeah, I was. I needed that money. 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.040 Thant even a due date on the invoice. 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:02.640 Okay? 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:05.200 And then so when was the first mentioned to you 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:06.760 of money that. 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.839 Came after the fact I got a text that said, oh, 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:10.439 can you just. 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:13.600 I want to know when? When? When did you get 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:14.080 a text? 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.280 His sweating, judge, sweating on the brow? 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:19.199 I really sweating, judge, he's lying as usual. 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:21.360 Now that's an aspersion. 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.240 Why are you allowed to speak when I'm talking? I 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:24.160 had to shut my mouth. 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:26.360 Okay, I'm going to stop you both there, So go on. 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:28.199 I want to know about when you first got the 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:29.680 mention of a text and money. 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:34.160 It was very soon after he left. It might have 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:35.800 been that afternoon or the next day. I hadn't even 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:37.679 unpacked the thing. I left it in the box out 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:40.120 of spy, so that day possibly, okay? 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.480 And how much was he? What does the message say? 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:45.040 He usually could get that message up if you just search, 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:47.280 If you just searched road Caster in your phone, it 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:48.360 did quite simply appear. 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.440 I'd have to scroll back the while, but yeah, I'd 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:52.040 be prepared to do that if we had all day. 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:54.600 I don't believe we do, but we'll come back to it, 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.560 you know, I mean, you knew you were here. Running 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:02.920 a case, so you have to be prepared, so Jina, Judge, 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:07.760 I agree, Jo's I'm not asking for your feedback, of course, 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:12.120 thank you. So text that day and do you recall 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.920 before you refer to your notes? Can you exhaust your 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:19.960 memory please and tell me what you think that message says? 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:22.720 It was very casual. 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.040 No, no, I want to know what it says. Yeah, 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:28.400 me too, say it was very casual. 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:30.400 No, no, no, He said, do you want to just transfer 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.680 me eight hundred? Do you want to just transfer me 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:36.840 eight hundred? Yeah, it was a question, and did you 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:37.320 say no? 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:39.920 I probably barked back with are you right? What do 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:41.880 you mean to know? 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:43.600 Probably? What do you think you said? 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:46.520 I would have said something Judge to the effect of, 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:50.360 you didn't pay for it, so why are you pocketing 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:50.880 from this? 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:52.600 Because it's his possession? 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:53.400 Thank you? 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:54.880 This is true. You're right. 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:58.160 So if you inherit a house from a deceased grandparent, 0:14:58.200 --> 0:14:59.680 does that mean you give it away for free? 0:14:59.800 --> 0:14:59.960 No? 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:03.320 Of course not so. Once you've got physical possession of something, 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:04.480 it's your will do whatever. 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:08.160 You donate it to a charity or something. If I 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:09.360 didn't need the helld. 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:10.480 You can't even spell charity? 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.840 I would suggest that if you own something, it's your 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.360 possession and you can do whatever you like with it. 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:19.960 Gift it, sell it, use it, keep it, put it away, 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:23.040 throw it out, whatever you like to do. It doesn't matter. 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:27.360 So I think the confusion here more so is the 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:29.400 fact that you weren't to where it was for sale. 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:34.040 You've accepted and received these goods on the premise that 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:37.200 they were given to your friend as a gift, and 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:40.480 as a result of that, you've assumed that you would 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:44.280 also have the benefit of someone's generosity. 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.600 Yes, I'll quote The Castle a court based movie. 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.640 It's just the vibe, you know, just the vibe the 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:52.480 law of bloody common sense. 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:54.480 Right right, Well, that doesn't hold up in a court 0:15:54.480 --> 0:16:00.000 of war, you know. I just I just killed people 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:00.720 because it was the vibe. 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.200 He's speaking over dutchdowns speaking over. 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:03.920 Yet the mars. 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:05.800 Getting very messy here, So I'm going to pull you 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:09.080 both back. So I just want to know what do 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:12.640 you want me to do today? I'll start with mister Coombs, 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.320 what do you want me to do today? Why have 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:16.840 you brought this to me today? 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:19.600 Well, the emotional just. 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:24.080 Stress that I've endured as a result of this and also, 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:26.680 I am a freelancer. I don't have a steady wage 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:28.480 like you, so I'm very out of pocket. 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:30.720 I'd like it to be reimbursed. 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:33.880 Because it's not lost to be reimbursed the eight hundred dollars. 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:35.840 It's the eight hundred because he's not actually out of 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:38.760 pocket by then, because he didn't pay for the equipment 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:39.600 in the first place. 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:42.160 I've just gone back because there's quite a few sales, 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:44.400 all very well priced, and I'm going through my five 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:47.520 star reviews. Nice man love his radio show. I think 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:49.920 it's one awards. That's just the feedback on my profile. 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:54.360 Here we go road caster pro for sale, Redfern, New 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:59.000 South Wales, nine nine nine right right, shipping offered so 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.400 I was willing to shore. Sorry, Mitchell, I can show you. 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:04.240 Well that was free shipping. You've shipped it to Mitchell. 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:05.520 Correct, very good point. 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:06.200 That was free shipping. 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:08.600 It said, sorry, you're charging them way less than me. No, 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:12.080 I wasn't charging them less than you. No, it's nine 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:15.240 nine nine and I charged you eight. And it was 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.480 being deleted. Judge, but you can see here if I 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:18.440 hold it up to the court of. 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:20.520 War, I'd like you to read it to me. Please, 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:21.640