1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: You are now entering the court of Judge Gina Leano. 2 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: It's been said that friendship and money are like oil 3 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: and water. 4 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 3: They never mix. 5 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: When you have a dispute that needs settling once and 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: for all, you come to my courtroom. I am Judge Gina, 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: and my decision is final. 8 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: Today Mitch Combs has brought Mitch Chury to Judge Gina 9 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: over a money misunderstanding. He is seeking eight hundred dollars 10 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: in financial compensation for podcast equipment he believes he should 11 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: not have had to pay for. 12 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 4: My name's Mitchell Coombs. I'm a stand up comedian, a 13 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 4: social media creator and I co host. 14 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 5: The podcast Is It Just Me. 15 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 4: I've come on Judge Gina today because I feel that 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 4: my former friends and current co host Mitch Churry had 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 4: ripped me off. A near and dear friend, He's ripped 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 4: me off. 19 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 6: My name is Mitch Churi. I'm the host of the 20 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 6: Night Show on Kiss FM, the national evening show on Kiss. 21 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 6: I also host the three pm pick Up Around Australia 22 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 6: on the Kiss network. Oh Shit. I'm also the host 23 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 6: of the iHeartRadio exclusive podcast Is It Just Me? With 24 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 6: Mitchell Kerbs, my co host. I've come to defend myself 25 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 6: and my family's honor. I believe I've been defamed. I've 26 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 6: been dragged here today over what I thought was a 27 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 6: simple transaction with a good friend that has turned very sour. 28 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 4: I've known the other Mitch since twenty seventeen. I met 29 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 4: him when I started working at the same radio station 30 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 4: he was already working at. 31 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:45,279 Speaker 6: Mitch and I have been friends for goodness me five six, 32 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 6: last seven years now, a long time, and I consider 33 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 6: him one of my best friends. But maybe not for 34 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 6: much longer. 35 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 4: There's been a lot of tension behind the scenes of 36 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 4: our podcast, but we're finally ready to put this to bed. 37 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: Okay, So we've got the two Mitches here, Mitch Kumbs 38 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: and Mitch Churi. So I'm going to start with Mitch 39 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: Kombs because it's your application today. 40 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: You want interesting, you want an amount? Excuse me? 41 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 6: No, no, I'm apologies. No, I just more meant that 42 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 6: it was it's interesting that you apologies, Janet, No, I'm sorry. Okay, 43 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 6: what's not interesting? 44 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 3: No, it is interesting. 45 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 6: You are interesting. 46 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 3: Okay, I'll ignite you to speak. You can stop there, 47 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: thank you. 48 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 6: No, sorry, I didn't be you. 49 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: I'm going to refer to you both by your surname. 50 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: So I'm going to ask Coombs if you can just 51 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 2: tell me a bit about your relationship. So are you friends? 52 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,399 Speaker 2: Do you work together? How long have you known each other? 53 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 3: Well? 54 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 4: Both, we've known each other for quite a few years now, 55 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 4: I think it was twenty seventeen. We started working together. 56 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 4: We were colleagues and then became very close friends. And then, 57 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 4: like all friends, we thought, God, our conversations deserve to 58 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 4: be recorded and broadcast. So we started the podcast as 59 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 4: a couple of mitches and it's been a good few 60 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 4: years now, running strong and very minimal fights in that time. 61 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 3: So your podcast is about wash. 62 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 5: Well, it's called Is It Just Me? That's the name 63 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 5: of the podcast. 64 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 6: Okay, I wanted the name to be Mitch please, like 65 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 6: bitch please, but Mitch please, but Mitch wanted is It 66 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 6: Just Me? 67 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 4: And so it's every week we get together and debrief 68 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 4: something we've noticed, hate or appreciate. 69 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 5: It's a bit of improv bit of fun. 70 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: All right. 71 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 2: So I'm going to come to you, mister Tury fantastic, 72 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: tell me about because I can see the burning desire 73 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: to say something. 74 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 6: No, no, I just know it's just because I've seen 75 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 6: the GW. 76 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: Stop mister Cury, okay, so I no stop. I'm just 77 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: going to ask you some questions and if you can 78 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: just answer, okay, don't one word, answer, just concisely as 79 00:03:58,720 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: you can, that would be got. 80 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: Okay. 81 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: So you've known mister Coombe since about twenty seventeen. 82 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: You've heard what he said. Do you agree with all that? 83 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 6: Yes? 84 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 3: Correct. 85 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 6: We met on his birthday actually, and I had already 86 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 6: worked at the radio station since twenty fifteen, so I 87 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 6: extended the olive branch. I think I probably wanted to 88 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 6: maybe get with him at the start, maybe take him 89 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 6: on a dinner or something, but he quite quickly you've 90 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 6: seen his personality. It didn't work. We didn't click in 91 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 6: that respect, so it was strictly platonic straight away. But 92 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 6: we met on his birthday. Then the podcast was born, 93 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 6: you know, two years later. 94 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: Fantastic all right, So you actually there was an attraction there, 95 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: but it didn't. 96 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 6: Get Yes, I found Mitchell Kuhmb circa twenty seventeen attractive, 97 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 6: and I'm not afraid to say it. 98 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 2: There you go, there's a compliment for you. So I've 99 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: got an application here from mister Coombs he wants an 100 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: amount that he paid you for a road cast paid 101 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 2: back to him. So I'm just going to ask you 102 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 2: some questions about this road cast. So, yes, you were 103 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: given a road caster for free during lockdown? 104 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 3: Is that right? 105 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 6: Yeah? Correct? 106 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 3: So tell me that story. Yeah, yes, So I host. 107 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 6: I still host the same show, the night show, and 108 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 6: that show during COVID had to go from home, so 109 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 6: I had to record the show from my broom. Closs 110 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 6: and the good people at road It's an Australian brand. 111 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 6: They sent me a road caster, which is like a 112 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 6: little mini radio. Yeah, here it is. It's right in 113 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 6: with this. 114 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 3: What is it? What is it an? 115 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 6: It's a mini broadcast console, Gina. So if you've been 116 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 6: in a radio studio you'll know, or a podcast studio. 117 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 6: There's a desk. It's probably the size of like a 118 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 6: large Domino's pizza just going off, you know what I know. 119 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 6: And you can control the microphone levels, you can put 120 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 6: calls through it, sound effect, you can make wacky sounds. 121 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 6: You have a lot of fun with it. Gena action 122 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 6: now that I'm thinking of you playing with it, but 123 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 6: I enjoyed it. So I play with this roadcast. I 124 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 6: do my successful radio show and then covid ends. So 125 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 6: I put it on gum Tree and I had bids, Gina, 126 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 6: I had bids. 127 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: No, No, I'm going to stop you because I'm going 128 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: to ask you some questions. 129 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 6: Oh you did say that? 130 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 3: Sorry, say that, okay. 131 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: So in early twenty twenty two, you put it on 132 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: gum tree for sale? How much was it for sale? 133 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: How much we're selling it for one thousand dollars and 134 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: you got it for free, but that's you. It was 135 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: yours to keep it. It was given to me, yes, 136 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 2: givens okay, and they didn't expect that. Rhades didn't expect 137 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 2: you to return that to them at any stage. 138 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 6: No, it was not on loan. 139 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: It was gifted, okay, and then you purchased something else 140 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: to do. 141 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 6: I was gifted the new model by road they're good friends, 142 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 6: and they sent me the road Caster too. It had 143 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 6: been obviously two years. They had new technology, and they. 144 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 5: Read cast Pro doesn't even know what it's called road. 145 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 6: Caster Pro too, and they said, you love the first one. 146 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 6: Your show has been so successful. We've seen the press, 147 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 6: the billboards. We will give you the new model. And 148 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 6: I said fantastic. So that's why I put it up. 149 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 6: I didn't need it's been two years. And it had 150 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 6: been two years and I thought, let's let's just get 151 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 6: some some pocket money for it. 152 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: Okay, so you'd already put it up for sale, but 153 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: you said that that mister Combs could buy it for 154 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: a cheaper price. 155 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 3: Is that right? 156 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 6: Well, what happened was we were my home studio which 157 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 6: had the new road caster, and I was showing it off. 158 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 6: I was saying, look at this beautiful new item of 159 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 6: kit that I've been gifted graciously by road in Australian business. 160 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 6: And then Mitchell goes, oh, you had an old one, 161 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 6: and I said, yeah, I've got an old one. I'm 162 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 6: actually selling it. He and I I'd love to get one. 163 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 6: I'm in the market for a road caster myself. And 164 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 6: then I said, well fantastic. You know, if you want one, 165 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 6: I'm not using it, and he said great, I'll have it. 166 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 6: I went awesome, we'll pack it up and we'll get 167 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 6: it to you, and off he took with his new 168 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 6: road caster, and. 169 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 3: He didn't talk price. 170 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 6: Well, I believe price was mentioned. It's very rude to 171 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 6: sort of throw around price straight away. I think I 172 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 6: said something along the lines of we'll chat details. I'll 173 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 6: text you about detail. We'll talk the road caster detail. 174 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 6: We're very close, you see, so we'll talk cash. I 175 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 6: think I could have said later. 176 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: I'm going to go to mister Coombs now, I think, 177 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 3: do you say happened? 178 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 4: I don't even know where to start when it comes 179 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 4: to unpacking the FIBs. 180 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 5: I've been nowhere. 181 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 4: Okay, So firstly, it all came about via a phone call. 182 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 4: We were on the phone for some reason and you 183 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 4: just mentioned, oh my god, I just got sent the 184 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 4: new road cast of the road Caster pro to the upgrade, 185 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 4: and he was gloating about that it was a freebein. 186 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 5: I was like, oh wait, so can I have your 187 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 5: old one? And he's like yeah, yeah. 188 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 3: And did he did you know that it was for saving? 189 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 5: There was no mention of that until after it was 190 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 5: in my possession. 191 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: Did you know that he had it advertised and that 192 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: he'd had on the market for a week, and that. 193 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 4: In fact that I would challenge him to present screenshots 194 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 4: of the ad because I'm not sure that they it 195 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 4: ever went on Marketplace or gum Tree, whatever it was. 196 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: Did you know that he'd been asking for one thousand dollars? 197 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 5: I had no idea. 198 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: No, there was no When did you find that out? 199 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 3: When did you find out. 200 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 5: After the fact after I already had it? 201 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 3: When is how long? 202 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 4: When when he got it to me? That was a 203 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 4: week or so after this phone call? So one week 204 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 4: later he delivered it probably, and it was we were 205 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 4: at my I have for delivery. We were recording an interview. 206 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: Did he say anything when he delivered it. 207 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 6: No. 208 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 4: He brought it in a box and said here, because 209 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 4: we're doing a recording. 210 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: I want to know the words he used when he 211 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 2: gave you the box. 212 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 5: Well, the words were essentially, here you go. 213 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 4: I'll just leave this at your house when we're done 214 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 4: with it, because I've got one back at home, right. 215 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 3: And did that later conversation happen? 216 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 6: I bump him maybe a week later because I hadn't 217 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 6: received cash, So I just said, you. 218 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 3: Have received cash. You haven't told him what the cash's later? Later? 219 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 3: This is a week later. 220 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 6: Now if more, it was expecting him, as a good 221 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 6: close friend of mine and someone that I could have 222 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 6: potentially once slept with, to have offered out and gone Hi, Mitchell, 223 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 6: thanks for the road caster. What are you for that 224 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 6: old friend? When in fact radio silence. So then I said, look, 225 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 6: I'd like eight hundred dollars for it. I'm selling it 226 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 6: for a thousand. You've got my account details because we've 227 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 6: had dinner together. Just transfer me eight hundred bucks and 228 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 6: I'd prefer cash, is what I said, because I wanted 229 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 6: it to be off the books. Off the books, yeh 230 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 6: l Chapo style. 231 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 2: I'll caution you, as a judge would that anything you 232 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: say may be used against you, and so I will 233 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: caution you. 234 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 3: That you need to say nothing further. 235 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: Thank you terms of that, and I won't be asking 236 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 2: you any and if you are asked any questions, you're 237 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: not compelled to answer them. 238 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 6: Oh I would have liked to have known that. Show 239 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 6: you there, Thank you judge. 240 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 2: All right, So you want a d eight hundred dollars 241 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 2: for the for the road casting pastor that's heavily discounted. 242 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 3: Is it two hundred dollars? Okay? 243 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 2: But you didn't ask him for money, so you gave 244 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: it to him. He took possession of it and there 245 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 2: was no discussion of money. 246 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 6: Well, how dare he assume that it was a free gift. 247 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 6: I mean, I don't want to get routy here, but 248 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 6: the men he assumed it was free. 249 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 3: Well you didn't tell him otherwise. 250 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 6: I can't recall what the wording was, but I'm a 251 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 6: very it's not your time. I can't was it's not 252 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 6: your time because I said it's for sale. I said, yes, 253 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 6: it's for sale. If you would like to purchase it, 254 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 6: is what I said, Then we can organize a deal. 255 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 6: Judge in it. Can I make one other edition? If 256 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 6: I could, you'd assume, being a good friend, Mitch would 257 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,599 Speaker 6: just transfer me the money. Of course I have for 258 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 6: some quips, you know, with that lizard tongue of his. However, 259 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 6: he asked me to formulate an invoice and then forward 260 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 6: it to him so he could make it a tax 261 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,599 Speaker 6: deductible purchase and or you know what I want. I 262 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 6: wanted to do with the money. I won't repeat that, 263 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 6: but I had to then formulate it. 264 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: Not everybody is wanting to evade tax, you see. 265 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 3: That's the issue here, I think. 266 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I would suggest that if mister Coombs is 267 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: in the business of podcast and radio, that something is 268 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: that he purchases could be a tax deduction. Correct, So 269 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: I would suggest that's a very fair and valid request 270 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: to have a tax invoice. But My question is the 271 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 2: tax invoice was for eight hundred dollars and did you 272 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 2: pay it? 273 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 5: And when I did pay. 274 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 4: It, which I was, I did ask him to do 275 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 4: the invoice. I was kind of relying on his lazy 276 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 4: and it's thinking you'd never get around to it. 277 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 3: But much to my suppose buying time, I was, you know, I. 278 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 6: Had to watch a YouTube tutorial and what nobody made 279 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 6: the invoice? Zero zero zero two? Like I just make 280 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 6: it up as I go to be honest. 281 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 2: Right, Okay, well, I'm sure you're not selling many of 282 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: these things and they it's probably a one one invoice 283 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 2: in your whole lifetime. 284 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 6: Correct, Yes, yes, you're. 285 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 2: Right right, So you've got your eight hundred dollars you 286 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 2: paid that? When did you pay that, mister Koombs. I 287 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: can't remember exactly when that one was later a month later, 288 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 2: two days, it was late. I reckon it would have 289 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: been about a month later, because you got me the 290 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 2: invoice eventually, and I. 291 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 6: Remember not putting food on the table for my family 292 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 6: that so it would be late. 293 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you couldn't put food on the table for your family, 294 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 2: so you just you were. 295 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 6: I'm believing, Yeah, I was. I needed that money. 296 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 5: Thant even a due date on the invoice. 297 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 3: Okay? 298 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 2: And then so when was the first mentioned to you 299 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: of money that. 300 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 4: Came after the fact I got a text that said, oh, 301 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 4: can you just. 302 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 3: I want to know when? When? When did you get 303 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 3: a text? 304 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 6: His sweating, judge, sweating on the brow? 305 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 5: I really sweating, judge, he's lying as usual. 306 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 6: Now that's an aspersion. 307 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 5: Why are you allowed to speak when I'm talking? I 308 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 5: had to shut my mouth. 309 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to stop you both there, So go on. 310 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 2: I want to know about when you first got the 311 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 2: mention of a text and money. 312 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 4: It was very soon after he left. It might have 313 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 4: been that afternoon or the next day. I hadn't even 314 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 4: unpacked the thing. I left it in the box out 315 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 4: of spy, so that day possibly, okay? 316 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: And how much was he? What does the message say? 317 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 6: He usually could get that message up if you just search, 318 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 6: If you just searched road Caster in your phone, it 319 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 6: did quite simply appear. 320 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 4: I'd have to scroll back the while, but yeah, I'd 321 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 4: be prepared to do that if we had all day. 322 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: I don't believe we do, but we'll come back to it, 323 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, you knew you were here. Running 324 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 2: a case, so you have to be prepared, so Jina, Judge, 325 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: I agree, Jo's I'm not asking for your feedback, of course, 326 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: thank you. So text that day and do you recall 327 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: before you refer to your notes? Can you exhaust your 328 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 2: memory please and tell me what you think that message says? 329 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 5: It was very casual. 330 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 3: No, no, I want to know what it says. Yeah, 331 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 3: me too, say it was very casual. 332 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: No, no, no, He said, do you want to just transfer 333 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: me eight hundred? Do you want to just transfer me 334 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: eight hundred? Yeah, it was a question, and did you 335 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: say no? 336 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 5: I probably barked back with are you right? What do 337 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 5: you mean to know? 338 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 3: Probably? What do you think you said? 339 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 4: I would have said something Judge to the effect of, 340 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 4: you didn't pay for it, so why are you pocketing 341 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 4: from this? 342 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 3: Because it's his possession? 343 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 6: Thank you? 344 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: This is true. You're right. 345 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: So if you inherit a house from a deceased grandparent, 346 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: does that mean you give it away for free? 347 00:14:59,800 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 6: No? 348 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: Of course not so. Once you've got physical possession of something, 349 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 3: it's your will do whatever. 350 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 5: You donate it to a charity or something. If I 351 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 5: didn't need the helld. 352 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 6: You can't even spell charity? 353 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: I would suggest that if you own something, it's your 354 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 2: possession and you can do whatever you like with it. 355 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: Gift it, sell it, use it, keep it, put it away, 356 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: throw it out, whatever you like to do. It doesn't matter. 357 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: So I think the confusion here more so is the 358 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: fact that you weren't to where it was for sale. 359 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: You've accepted and received these goods on the premise that 360 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: they were given to your friend as a gift, and 361 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 2: as a result of that, you've assumed that you would 362 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: also have the benefit of someone's generosity. 363 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 5: Yes, I'll quote The Castle a court based movie. 364 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 4: It's just the vibe, you know, just the vibe the 365 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 4: law of bloody common sense. 366 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 6: Right right, Well, that doesn't hold up in a court 367 00:15:54,480 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 6: of war, you know. I just I just killed people 368 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 6: because it was the vibe. 369 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 5: He's speaking over dutchdowns speaking over. 370 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 6: Yet the mars. 371 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 2: Getting very messy here, So I'm going to pull you 372 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 2: both back. So I just want to know what do 373 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: you want me to do today? I'll start with mister Coombs, 374 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: what do you want me to do today? Why have 375 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: you brought this to me today? 376 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 5: Well, the emotional just. 377 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 4: Stress that I've endured as a result of this and also, 378 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 4: I am a freelancer. I don't have a steady wage 379 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 4: like you, so I'm very out of pocket. 380 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 5: I'd like it to be reimbursed. 381 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 4: Because it's not lost to be reimbursed the eight hundred dollars. 382 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 4: It's the eight hundred because he's not actually out of 383 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 4: pocket by then, because he didn't pay for the equipment 384 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 4: in the first place. 385 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 6: I've just gone back because there's quite a few sales, 386 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 6: all very well priced, and I'm going through my five 387 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 6: star reviews. Nice man love his radio show. I think 388 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 6: it's one awards. That's just the feedback on my profile. 389 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 6: Here we go road caster pro for sale, Redfern, New 390 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 6: South Wales, nine nine nine right right, shipping offered so 391 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 6: I was willing to shore. Sorry, Mitchell, I can show you. 392 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 3: Well that was free shipping. You've shipped it to Mitchell. 393 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 6: Correct, very good point. 394 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 3: That was free shipping. 395 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 6: It said, sorry, you're charging them way less than me. No, 396 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 6: I wasn't charging them less than you. No, it's nine 397 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 6: nine nine and I charged you eight. And it was 398 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 6: being deleted. Judge, but you can see here if I 399 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 6: hold it up to the court of. 400 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 3: War, I'd like you to read it to me. Please, 401 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 3: road cast. 402 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 6: To pro description. Hi there, I'm selling my barely used 403 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 6: road cast pro used for radio productions based in Sydney, 404 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 6: looking for a new home. Need money for ice cream, 405 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 6: and then that's it. 406 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 2: Okay, So, mister Coombs, so you've never seen that? Have 407 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: you seen that ad before today? 408 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 4: I've just laid eyes on it for the first time, 409 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 4: and none of that is written in it. 410 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 2: Did you know you were getting a discount? Did you 411 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: know that the eight hundred dollars was less than the 412 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 2: asking price? 413 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 3: Had that? 414 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 5: Well, that was one thing that he did point out 415 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 5: to me when I said. 416 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 4: You're going to charge me, and he goes, yeah, i'll 417 00:17:58,480 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 4: charge you. Lets you know how much I could be 418 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 4: for this on gum trick. 419 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 3: Okay, I've heard enough. I'm going to deliberate. 420 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 1: Judge Gina is deliberating and will soon hand down her verdict. 421 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: Please do not leave the courtroom. 422 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 2: Mitch Coombs, you are seeking eight hundred dollars from Mitch Jury. 423 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 2: You do not believe you should have to pay for 424 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: the road procaster too, as it was gifted to Mitchjury 425 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 2: and there was no discussion of payment when he gave 426 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 2: it to you. I'm going to make an order in 427 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 2: favor of mister Koomb's for eight hundred dollars nothing further. 428 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 3: Thank you. 429 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 4: I'm absolutely stoked with today's outcome. There was a while 430 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 4: there where I really didn't think it was going to 431 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 4: go my way. I didn't think I had any legs 432 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 4: to stand on. I thought that in the eyes of 433 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 4: the law, I was screwed. 434 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 5: But here we are. 435 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 4: Common sense prevailed and I knew I could rely on 436 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 4: Judge Gina for common sense. 437 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 6: I feel devastated and completely gutted. 438 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 4: I think this trial will affect my relationship with Mitch 439 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 4: going forward in a good way, because after this, he 440 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 4: will know that I can't BETWI. 441 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 6: Look, I don't really feel this will effect my relationship 442 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 6: with Mitchell Coombs. Believe it or not, we have had 443 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 6: blow ups bigger than this. I feel the disagreement has 444 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 6: been buried once and for all, like I wanted. That 445 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 6: is the one outcome of this situation that I am 446 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 6: happy with. 447 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: Yes, this has been an iHeart production.