1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Already and this is this is the Daily This is 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: the Dahlias. Oh now it makes sense. Good morning and 3 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: welcome to the Daly Os. It's Monday, the twenty third 4 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: of February. I'm Billy fitz. 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 2: Simons and I'm Zara Seidler. 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: Last week, Andrew Mauntpatten Windsor, formerly known as Prince Andrew, 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: was arrested at his home on suspicion of misconduct in 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: public office. It is the first time since sixteen forty 9 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: nine that a member of the British royal family has 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: been arrested, and it is one of the first arrests 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: with a person named in the Epstein files since the 12 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: three million documents were released earlier this year. So how 13 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: did we get here? We'll take you through everything that 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: has happened in today's podcast. 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: Okay, now, Billy, I kind of want to start this 16 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: deep dive in a bit of an unorthodox way because 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: one of the most common questions we get at the 18 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: Daily OS is how do you get your news? And 19 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 2: this story was one of those times where our entire 20 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 2: Slack group was popping off. Yeah, there have never been 21 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: more messages in a singular chat group at you know, 22 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: nine pm. 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: At night Slack for anyone who doesn't know, is our 24 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: internal work messaging app kind of works like what'sapp or 25 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: anything like that, but it's specifically for work. 26 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: Yes, okay. And you were the first person to drop 27 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 2: into that Slack group on Thursday night saying, oh my god, 28 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: Prince Andrew has been arrested. I know, talk me through 29 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 2: how you found that and what happened in terms of 30 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: you finding that and then us reporting it mean minutes later, 31 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: and then we'll get into the actual story itself. 32 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 1: So I got the notification on my phone from another 33 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: news publication and I immediately sent it to Slack and 34 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, everyone get out of 35 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: my way. There was no one because I lived by myself. 36 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: I was like, I need my computer. Everyone's stopped everything, 37 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: and very quickly started writing it up. I asked the 38 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: team if they could find a primary source, which so 39 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: The Daily Oz doesn't publish anything without a primary source. 40 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: So it is crucial for us to not copy other 41 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 1: people's journalism, but go find where this piece of information 42 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: in this case that Prince Andrew had been arrested came from. 43 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: In this case, it was from local police in the UK. 44 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: They had put out a statement. They hadn't named him, 45 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: but it was pretty widely reported. I can go into 46 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: this bit later why, but the media was pretty confident 47 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: that it was Prince Andrew, which meant that we had 48 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: enough information to post this. And from the moment I 49 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: saw it to the moment we pressed publish was about 50 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: eight minutes and it was a team effort. I think 51 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: we had five different people getting in already getting the photos, 52 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: making sure that what we were putting out was accurate, 53 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: and putting it up. 54 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: And I think that that talks to the gravity of 55 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: the situation. You know, we are the are a smaller 56 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: newsroom than many of our peers, and so sometimes we 57 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: can take a bit longer to come to news. But 58 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: we knew that this was one of those times where 59 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: you kind of had to drop everything, find the source 60 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: and go talk me through why this is such a 61 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: big story. And I guess a starting point is for 62 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 2: any listeners who might not be well versed in the 63 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: royal family or now one of the former members of 64 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: the royal family, who is Andrew and why does this 65 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: matter so much? So? 66 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: Andrew again, he was formerly known as Prince Andrew. He 67 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: is the brother of King Charles, who is the head 68 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: of state in Australia. Yeah, he's the second son of 69 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: the late Queen Elizabeth the Second, so he's part of 70 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: the British royal family. And one thing that is interesting 71 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: is he is still eighth in line to the throne. 72 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: Oh, I thought he'd been removed. 73 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: No, so he has been removed in the sense that 74 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: his royal titles have been removed. He's no longer a prince, 75 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: but that doesn't change the succession to the throne because 76 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: that is something that is in law. And the side 77 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: note to this is that one of the latest developments 78 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: is that the UK government is trying looking at if 79 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: they can pass the law to remove him from the succession. Interesting, 80 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: that will depend on what the outcome of this arrest is, 81 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: if it goes to trial, if he's found guilty of anything, 82 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: but they are looking at if that is a possibility. 83 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, you're right that he has been removed from 84 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: the royal family. He's been stripped of everything. The one 85 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: thing he hasn't been stripped of is his position in 86 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: the succession to the throne. 87 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: Feels like the most important part, don't you think. Yeah, Yeah, anyway, interesting, 88 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: I guess that's just this is such a unique situation. 89 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: It's just how it works. 90 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: You just refer there to the fact that Andrew has 91 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: been stripped of everything, which is why we're doing this 92 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: weird thing like calling him just his first name, and 93 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: it's a bit confusing for listeners. I guess, why has 94 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 2: he been stripped of his honors and of his role 95 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: in the royal family. 96 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: So that happened in October last year. It was a 97 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: decision made by King Charles about his brother about his brother, 98 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: and the reason it was kind of confusing because then 99 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: Prince Andrew said that he was stripping himself but not 100 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: of everything, and then King Charles decided that he was 101 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: going to strip him of everything. When it was initially decided, 102 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: they said that everything, the whole, all of the controversies 103 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: surrounding him, had been too much of a distraction to 104 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: the British Royal family and means that they are not 105 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: able to carry out their duty to the public like 106 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: they would want to because everyone is just focusing on 107 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: the controversy surrounding Andrew. But they repeated in every single 108 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: statement that they put out that he has denied all wrongdoing, 109 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: but that he just can no longer serve as a 110 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: member of the royal family. 111 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 2: Okay, and so you refer there to controversies plurals. What 112 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 2: are the controversies we're talking about when it comes to 113 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: Andrew What has he been accused of in the past, 114 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,239 Speaker 2: And then we can get I guess to the news 115 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: of last week. 116 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: So I'll go through two things that I think are 117 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: the main things that have surrounded him. The first is 118 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, and the second is a 119 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: sexual assault allegation against him. So the first is probably 120 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: what he is best known now for his friendship with 121 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: the late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. I'm sure many 122 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: people are now very familiar with Jeffrey Epstein, but in 123 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: case or not, I'll go through it very quickly. He 124 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: was an American businessman and a convicted sex offender. Like 125 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: I said, he died in twenty nineteen whilst in jail. 126 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: He died by suicide, and the crimes that he committed 127 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: have continued to cause controversy more and more so in 128 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: the years since. And because Epstein has died and he 129 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: can no longer face trial for any additional alleged crimes, 130 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: that he was accused of, the world's attention has turned 131 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: to the alleged crimes of his associates and friends, and 132 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: in terms of Andrew, one of the big controversies that 133 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: has surrounded him. This is the second thing that I 134 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: was meant to. He has a sexual assault allegation against him. 135 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: So Andrew was accused of sexual assault by a woman 136 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: named Virginia Geffrey, who claimed she was forced to engage 137 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: in sexual activity with the then Prince Andrew while she 138 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: was under age. And Andrew allegedly met Jeffrey through Epstein. 139 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: So that's I know, that's a lot of names, but 140 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: that's kind of how it's all connected. 141 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: So can I just for anyone that might be getting lost. 142 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: So Andrew was a close associate and friend of Jeffrey Epstein. 143 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: That is one controversy in and of itself because of 144 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: the crimes that Jeffrey Epstein has not just been accused 145 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: but been found guilty of. And secondly, he was accused 146 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: of sexual assault of a minor by Virginia Duffrey. 147 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: Correct exactly. Okay. You might remember a famous interview Andrew 148 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: did with the BBC in twenty nineteen. A movie has 149 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: since been made of that specific interview. 150 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 2: Is that where he said he doesn't sweat. 151 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: Yes, that is where that comes from, and that interview 152 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: kind of centered around those two things, the sexual assault 153 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: allegation and his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein. Now, it's important 154 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: to say that he has always denied the allegations against him. 155 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,239 Speaker 1: He denied all the allegations against him in that interview, 156 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: and he has repeatedly done that since. 157 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: And there are lots of photos of him with Jeffrey Epstein, 158 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 2: for example, and one of him with Virginia Duffrey, I. 159 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: Believe exactly, and with Glene Maxwell, who is Jeffrey Epstein's 160 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: former girlfriend, who is currently in jail because of her 161 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: connection to Epstein and the crimes that they committed together. Now, 162 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: although that sexual assault allegation was never tested in court, 163 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: Andrew did settle a lawsuit with Juffrey in twenty twenty 164 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: two without admitting any wrongdoing. Since that time, Giffrey has 165 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: died by suicide. 166 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 2: Okay, So we've talked through why Andrew was stripped of 167 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: his royal family honors, and certainly some of the allegations 168 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: that have been leveled against him, many of which he 169 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: has denied. So let's fast forward a bit and go 170 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: to last week when Andrew was arrested. What happened. 171 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: So it was Thursday night, our time that we got 172 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: the news, like I said before, that Andrew had been 173 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: arrested by UK Police. This is what UK Police said 174 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: in their statement. We have arrested a man in his 175 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: sixties on suspicion of misconduct in public office. That is 176 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: the crucial phrasing, misconduct in public office. That is what 177 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: he is potentially accused of. Now, like I said before, 178 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: we didn't immediately know that it was Prince Andrew. But 179 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: the reason why the media knew is because there were 180 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: already cameras outside his house that day because it was 181 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: his birthday. 182 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 2: This is just like the craziest detail to the story. Yes, 183 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: when Lucy, our copy editor told us it was his birthday, 184 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 2: none of us could believe it. And she was saying, 185 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: you know, imagine that you were the paparazzi thinking you 186 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: were going to to get a photo of a bouquet 187 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: of flowers entering in Andrew's home and instead you got 188 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: his arrest. Yes, crazy detail. 189 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: Crazy. And then it was a couple hours after that 190 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: that King Charles put out a statement confirming that his 191 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: brother had been arrested, and that was the most concrete 192 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: evidence we had. King Charles actually confirming yes, my brother 193 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: was arrested. 194 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: All right, Billy, lots to unpack before that, though, I 195 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: just want to throw to a quick note from today's sponsor. 196 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 2: So we know he was arrested, and we know from 197 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 2: the statement that the reason he was arrested by local 198 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 2: police was on suspicion of misconduct in public office. I 199 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 2: feel like this is very crucial part of the story 200 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 2: that we need to zero in on because we've spoken 201 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 2: about separate allegations of things like sexual assault, but that 202 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: is not why he was arrested. No, so talk us 203 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: through what we understand about why he was arrested. 204 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: So the term misconduct in public office, basically, that term 205 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: means they are concerned that Andrew when he was Prince 206 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: Andrew and when he was formally representing the royal family, 207 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: they are concerned that he potentially abused his privileges in 208 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: that position by sharing confidential information. And an important part 209 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: of that is that he was the British Trade Envoy 210 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: from twenty one to twenty eleven, which means that he 211 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: was even more privy to confidential information that if he 212 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: shared that then that would have been illegal, Okay. 213 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 2: And an important part of that is that we knew 214 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: previously that police were investigating reports that Andrew had not 215 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: just passed a long information, but who he had passed 216 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: that information along to. 217 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, we did know that police were assessing reports that 218 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: Prince Andrew, then Prince Andrew had potentially shared confidential information 219 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: with Jeffrey Epstein. We know that there were a number 220 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: of different UK police forces looking into this and this 221 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: is just the result of one of those instigations. In 222 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: terms of why now, it potentially could be because there 223 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: was just this drop of three million documents of the 224 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: Epstein files in the US, and so potentially there was 225 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: information in there that confirmed suspicions from the investigation. But again, 226 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: this was only an arrest, This wasn't a charge, and 227 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: he has since been released. 228 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, talk me through this, okay. So he was arrested, 229 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: and one would presume that for police to move to 230 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 2: arrest a former member of the royal family, they must 231 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 2: have had enough to go in and feel confident about 232 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: arresting him. But after eleven hours he was released and 233 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: he hasn't at the time of recording been charged, right, No. 234 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: So this is something that I didn't I don't think 235 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: I ever fully understood. But you can be arrested on 236 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: suspicion of something, but that doesn't mean that police have 237 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: enough evidence to charge you with anything. So they did 238 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: the interview with him, but then he was released after 239 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: eleven hours. But police have said that they are still 240 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: investigating him, so it doesn't mean that it's over. There 241 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: could still be a charge to come. 242 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: All right, So I guess you know, the whole world 243 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: will be watching to see what happens there, and just 244 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: to finish, I guess to understand the gravity of the situation. 245 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: Has this happened before, Like, has a member of the 246 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: royal family ever been arrested before? 247 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: It hasn't happened in a very long time. The last 248 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: home it happened was in sixteen forty nine, the first 249 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: King Charles actually was arrested. But yet not in the 250 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: modern era has this happened, which just goes to how 251 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: unpresented this is. 252 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, certainly when we will be keeping our listeners 253 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: updated on Billy. Thank you so much for taking us 254 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 2: through that. Thank you, and thank you for joining us 255 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 2: for another episode of the Daily os. 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