1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Far for you, Glenn Conco. You go, Glenn Cocoa. And 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: when Santa squeezes fat white ass down that Jimmy Day, 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: He's gonna find the jolliest bunch of assholes this side 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: of the nuthouse. Hello, and welcome to this very festive 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: episode of Outspoken. We're coming to you on Festivus. For 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: all the Seinfeld fants, I find Tinsel distracting. That is 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: the best episode of Seinfeld. And for anyone who doesn't 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,159 Speaker 1: watch Seinfeld, I judge you heavily. It's like friends, like 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: you have to watch Seinfeld and Friends and the Simpsons. 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: But I meet some people who scream that they've watched 11 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: every episode of Seinfeld and they say I've never seen that. 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, you need to go and watch it. So 13 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it, go and watch the series. 14 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: Watch the Festivus one today, just to do it some 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: justice I got. I got a lot of problems with you. 16 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: What would you air as one of your grievances at Festivus? Oh? 17 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: Actually I know one immediately, I know one that you 18 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: would air. Let's have to think maybe influencer related that. 19 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: Do you have a grievance with aarticular influencer or something 20 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: influencers are doing. We were discussing the laziness level of 21 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: some influencers recently. Oh okay, we won't won't name names, 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: but I was watching a vlog he named names. I 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: was watching a vlog recently as a part of someone's vognus, 24 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: and I think this is just me being a bitter parent. Now. 25 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: These girls were talking about how difficult their life was 26 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: as influencers, and how the kitchen there's always messy and 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: they're always having to get their car serviced and do 28 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: that sort of everyday Monday and task. And I was like, 29 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: it's a fucking holiday compared to being a parent. Oh 30 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: my goodness, especially at Christmas time. I mean, I thought 31 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: Christmas was stressful when I was a single individual. I've 32 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: always found it fun to go to the supermarket, though, 33 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: ocause some people, some influencers like detest go into the 34 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: super I think it's a chore because I mean, we 35 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: were talking about this with a friend also about how 36 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: these influencers talk about their to do list, and I 37 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: swear that get up and get out of bed is 38 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: like one of the things that they tick off. It's 39 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: like make bed, go to the toilet and we talked 40 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: about it to a friend. It was so subs from 41 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: I was actually couldn't remember who it was. It was Brandon, 42 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: who is forced to watch every single vlog that Sophie watches, 43 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: and the other night at family dinner, it was Kate, 44 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: soph and I and brand and who were inventing about 45 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: some particular influences. We watched and everyone else was just 46 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: sitting there like puzzled, like, who the hell are you. 47 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: Our husbands were like, shut up, I mean they just 48 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: walk out of the room and we watch this stuff. 49 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: So anyway, green flag for Brandon that he watches and 50 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: he knows who the people are that we're talking about. Yeah, 51 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: what would one of your grievances be that you'd like 52 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: to air for festivals? I think my grievance is poor women. 53 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: Women get left with a lot of the workload at 54 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 1: Christmas and most of the time of the year, and yeah, yeah, 55 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: there is a lot of mental load that comes with 56 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: organizing every year. I watched the ABC's Grumpy Old Women 57 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: and it was filmed, I believe in two thousand and one, 58 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: and when I was twelve, I couldn't really relate with 59 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: the grumpy old women. They'd always complain about how they 60 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: have to do everything the mental way to Christmas. And 61 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: now I sit and I watch it and I go, yeah, 62 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: fucking right, Okay. Actually I've got another grievance with influences. 63 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: I've heard so many of them say Sanna, Sannah through 64 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: all Australian. It's like, it's Santa. Well maybe that's because 65 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 1: we're from Adelaide, and I don't know. I'm sure there'll 66 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: be people that disagree, and everyone complains about how he 67 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: pronounced things, but I'm sorry, it's Santa or Father, Christmas orsts. 68 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: What would you say is the part of Christmas that 69 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: stresses you out the most? Now being a mum, what 70 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: I'm stressed about this Christmas is Dale and I and 71 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: Harry are going to my uncle Andy's house and We've 72 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: got to put Harry down for his nap there, so 73 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit stressed about getting him to sleep. 74 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: The logistics of Christmas Day with a baby, you're so difficult. 75 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: Because I had my first Christmas with Jack last year. Yeah, 76 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: and it was so tiring because we did Christmas Morning 77 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: at my mum and dad's house and we kind of 78 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: open all the presents then You've got to put all 79 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: the presents plus all your other crap in the car, 80 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: leave it at mom and Dad's house. Yeah. True. Then 81 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: we went to Reese's parents house for lunch, and then 82 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: we had to put him down for a nap. Somehow 83 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: he slept his full two hour napp in a bright 84 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: room in a portercock like I don't know how. I 85 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: think it was Christmas miracle. And then we shipped all 86 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: that stuff over to your house, Amy for Christmas dinner. 87 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: Jack didn't go to sleep until ten pm. It was 88 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: incredibly stressful. We finally put him down a Portercot. Reese 89 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: just wanted to go to bed, like you know when 90 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: your husband's giving you those eyes, like we need to leave, 91 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: but you just want to stay because I'm like, he's 92 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,559 Speaker 1: gone to bed, No, the angry We need to go home. 93 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: I'm not about to pass out in a comatos state. 94 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: Leave and you stayed. No, that was the white party. 95 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: Oh okay, Yeah, so maybe we should set up just 96 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: like bedspeed guys to sleep here because all the boys. 97 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say, like a portercot and 98 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: roll out mattress for Reese. Well, because Sophie was asking me, 99 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: because yeah, you guys are all coming over for dinner. 100 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: It's like the tall be side of the family. And 101 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: oh and some of the tables failed me too, of course, 102 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: and Sophia was like, wait, where are all the babies 103 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: going to sleep? And I'm like, Harry will be in 104 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: Dale in my room, and I'm assuming Jack will be 105 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: in Harry's nursery, and Luca will be in the podcast room. Luca, 106 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: because he's the youngest by eight weeks, so we seem 107 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: to get the short straw. It's like, oh, he can just, 108 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: you know, go in that other room. He can just 109 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: sleep outside, poor little darling. No, he won't be sleeping outside. 110 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: Will be sleeping in the air condition and comfort of 111 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: this podcasting studio. Okay, you're also hosting Christmas lunch at 112 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: your house for your in laws. Do you prefer being 113 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: the host or a guest? I love hosting. I absolutely 114 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: love it. I was excited that we get to host. 115 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: The only difficulty is now I don't have as much 116 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: time to put everything together, so I'm thinking of being 117 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: quite simple with what I'm doing this year. Also, because 118 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: we've only got three people coming over for Christmas lunch, 119 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: which is really unheard of for our family because we 120 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: always have these massive Christmas things. But it's kind of 121 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: nice because it'll be a lot more chilled out. We 122 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: can put Jack down for his nap and then I 123 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: can focus on making things will hopefully taste nice as 124 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: opposed to like cooking in bolk. But yeah, I definitely 125 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: love hosting, but not I wouldn't want to host lunch 126 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: and dinner. I know some people only do one thing, 127 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: but we have grown up with my being one of 128 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: four and Dad being one of five, and we've always 129 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: had a massive Christmas Day, so we always have a 130 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: big lunch and big dinner. We've never sort of broken 131 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: it up across a couple of days, which in hindsight 132 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: seems a little bit silly. I remember as a kid 133 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: there was one year that we didn't go to Grammar 134 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: and Grandma so much, so we had this like meal 135 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: at home, and I remember there was this big family 136 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: fight and we were given I think it was a 137 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: PlayStation two. We got crazy taxi and it was just 138 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: we had a father shed also to father ted DVDs 139 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: that we were watching and we want to bike ride. 140 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: It was actually the worst Christmas ever. I think someone 141 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: I've made some common about the peach. He was like scrumbs, 142 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: stormed off to his bedroom. I remember that was yeah, 143 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: probably the worst Christmas. I remember when Grandma and Grandpa 144 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: and Nanda and Papa got older, they merged Christmas Lunch Durmer. 145 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 1: Grandma Grandpa came along to some good Win whoso And 146 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: that was when we were in our UNI days and 147 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: we had so much time off to actually get excited 148 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: about the Christmas period. I remember Sophie and I and 149 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: you are well. Actually I don't think you were as 150 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: much around it. But we had Nigella's Christmas cookbook and 151 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: Sophie and I made it was like this specific pecan 152 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: pie ice cream cake recipe. I don't have any regulection 153 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: of this at all. Were playing tennis setting baked beans 154 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: at that time. If we are about probably influences the 155 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: same age that are winging about going to appointments. Oh no, 156 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: it's funny how things change so quickly. I remember a 157 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: Christmas and I think I can say this because this 158 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: person is no longer part of our family, part of 159 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: a there was a divorce, so I think it's no 160 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: longer a live dark But this particular person they wedged 161 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: themselves at this point in the table where you couldn't 162 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: move because this person didn't do anything to help. They're 163 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: now a divorced Yeah, yes, I said. And this person 164 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: they didn't bring anything like Mum did everything. This person 165 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: didn't even bring anything that's a car except till cans 166 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: of real beer. I think you're giving away the relative 167 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: because they were Amerriican. But it was like, we've put 168 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: the root beer in the fridge, would you didn't you 169 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: take it with them as well? Yeah, I think there's 170 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: nothing worse than people taking back the food that they've 171 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: brought mast you offer it. Like sometimes if someone brings 172 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: something over about and you take this because it hasn't 173 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: even been opened, or we don't we're not gonna eat it, 174 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: or if they leave some of it for you, like 175 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: you're like, oh no, well because we don't need the 176 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: full service, so you don't leave some of it. You know, 177 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: when you've got like really good so you've got like 178 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: all these desserts left, and you're thinking, mentally, I'm gonna 179 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: have that tomorrow and now I'm gonna have this food 180 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: after and then your husband's like here, gods, take everything, guys, 181 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: and he's like wait a sec, wait, please, don't on 182 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm planning to. I've already mentally eaten that. Did you gorge? 183 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: On these and boxing days? That is the best when 184 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: you host, because there's nothing better. Like I love having 185 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: trifle left over, and just like because it gets better. 186 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: I think a couple of days later, when it's all 187 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: sort of mush together, well, we're actually doing We're doing 188 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: Boxing Day with Dale's family. I know you've left us 189 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: high and dry and Boxing Day because we normally do 190 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: it with our uncle and auntie. But we're gonna do 191 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: that a different day. I know We've actually got to 192 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: work that out. Actually, to be honest, it's kind of 193 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: good because I love having a day relaxing at home, 194 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: and now in my stage of life having a child, 195 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: I live for the nights when you can just line 196 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: the couch. Actually might watch Christmas. I've been so bad 197 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: this year. I've only watched two. I watched Elf at 198 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: the Moonlight Cinemas and then I watched there's some like 199 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: is it Christmas? There's some Christmas thing on Netflix about 200 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: a break in at a department store that was funny. 201 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: It was like an English one. I have no idea 202 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: was that it was ranking high on I've been watching 203 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: the I was gonna say the Mister Bean Christmas thing, 204 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: but it's literally mister Bean. It's just Rowan Atkinson. He 205 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: it's This Baby. It's his TV series where row at 206 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: Atkinson gets left with this child. And I've only watched 207 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: episode one, but I've found it really good. Yeah, I've 208 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: enjoyed it, and I really want to watch The Holiday. 209 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: I watched it last year and I sort of feel 210 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: like it wasn't that long ago, Like I know, if 211 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: there's there's Christmas movies, I watch every year to watch 212 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: Lampoon's Christmas Vacation, because I actually didn't watch it last year, 213 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: which was terrible because I save it to watch right 214 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: like close when you're feeling really Christmasy, and I ran 215 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: out of time. I actually cried during the Holidays, which 216 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: day was so hormonial. It was when the little girls 217 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: were talking about their mum who passed away. Oh well, 218 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: I can understand that, you know what, this is really embarrassing, 219 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: but I got really sad when they're talking about Christmas 220 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: cheer and they're trying to get the Slayer work, and 221 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: then like when the Slaves flies through New York and 222 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: Christmas is saved. I was like, some unfair that's said 223 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: is not real? You know what I mean? You don't 224 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: say that that's not true. He's real. Well, I mean 225 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 1: Dale and I both said we got tiary at the 226 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: end of the movie, So don't feel ashamed. Na Dale 227 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: was known to cry in a lot of movies. Actually, 228 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: like once it aren't even that sad. Ever, since having 229 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: a baby, I have been crying so much. And I'm 230 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: a sort of person that's so cold, Like there was 231 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: a running joke that I was really cold and robotic 232 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: during my wedding talking some fucking assholes on tattle, and 233 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: you know, like Reese is more of the cry, and 234 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: I'm sort of someone that keeps it in. I think 235 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: crying it really random times, like really getting emotional, in 236 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: touch with my feelings. And this was pretty baby for the day. 237 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: Although this is Oh he didn't get it through his 238 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: maternal bond. No, I want to talk about Christmas food. 239 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: So what is one Christmas food that you love that 240 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: everyone else hates? Oh? Oh, sorry, it's gonna Turkish to 241 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: Like my grandma always had Turkish a lot of Christmas. 242 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: This isn't This isn't a Christmas food that I actually like. 243 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: But I want to like mince pies like I remember 244 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: liking them as a kid, and they always seem really 245 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: Christmasy to me. See, I want to make mince pies. 246 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: Nigella a mince pie recipe. Don't do it like it's 247 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: just too much. But it's really hard to find all 248 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: that minced fruit sort of stuff. Yeah, I don't know what. 249 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: Last year, I didn't even have a piece of pudding. Well, 250 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: I used to hate pudding when I was little, and 251 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: I like it now. But it was just I made 252 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: a stupid mistake of looking how much sugar it had 253 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: on the back. You don't worry about that. I know, 254 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: I know I'm going to have it this year, but 255 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: I just was like, you know when you get a 256 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: real sugar high and then you just crash it. Because 257 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: I was pregnant, I just didn't want to do it 258 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: to myself. My god, I'm going to have copious amounts 259 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 1: of like Christmas putting it. I had like Pavlova and stuff, 260 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: but SEEK couldn't do it. That's one that I've I've 261 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: really gone off Havlova recently, which is a bad one 262 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: to say, because I mentioned to Mum that I don't 263 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: like it, and she's like, oh, I've got that for Christmas. Eve. 264 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: She's like, oh, jim me to do a pudding and 265 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, no, don't worry about it. 266 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 1: Don't not a putting on Christmas Eve. I think that's 267 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: too heavy. Now, Amy, are you a savory or sweet 268 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: Christmas person? I think in general I've become a savory person. 269 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: I know this is going to sound really lame, and 270 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: maybe it's just a sign of my age, but I 271 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: actually really love some fresh salads for Christmas. I love 272 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: the potatoes. I love getting a bit of cranberry sauce 273 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: and putting it with my potatoes, which I don't think 274 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: you meant to do. You meant to put it with ham, 275 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: but for some reason, it just reminds me of where 276 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: vegetarians have ham, so you're gotta have it with something. 277 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: Every time the cranberry sauce comes out, I'm like, why 278 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: is this not a condiment we use all year round? 279 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 1: It's so good? It is good. I would say I'm 280 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: probably more of a sweet person because I love baking, 281 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: so whenever I think of Christmas, I think of sweet 282 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: things like trifle and pudding. And because you can do roast. 283 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: Anytime I saw Coles had a Christmas dessert sect, they 284 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: had the typical pudding, they had cookies and all this 285 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: sort of stuff, and then they had these pistachio filled 286 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: brandy snaps oh yu, and they sounded delicious, But I 287 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: was like, is that Christmas? I think pistacios are really 288 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: Christmas Eve. Postasio is particularly remind me of Christmas because 289 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: our grandparents used to have this amazing spread at Christmas 290 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: dinner where you'd arrive and before you even have dinner, 291 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: there was these massive platters of all different nuts and 292 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: like it was pistachios and cashews and cheese. It was 293 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: so good. Yeah. I really want to emulate Grammar and 294 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: Grandpa's Christmas this year because it's going to go with 295 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: my vintage theme. That is my goal every year. Yeah, 296 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: except we're not going to have tongue. So our grandma 297 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: was English and she always said tongue and no one 298 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: except her ate it, except there was one year where 299 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: our cousin bought her boyfriend and he ate it and 300 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: we thought it was so fun. Oh, that was hilarious. 301 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: The other memory of Christmas at Gramo and Grandpa's is say, 302 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: we would have these massive eskies. I was talking about it 303 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: the other day, and one would be full of just 304 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: full strength coke. The other one would be full of 305 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: like full strength sprite, no diet soft drinks, and then 306 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: there would just be all beers. And I remember as 307 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: a kid seeing all of the dads just drinking so 308 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 1: many beers, and you'd think, well, maybe tonight I'll have 309 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: ten cokes. And sometimes we did drink a lot of cokes. 310 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: We were buzzing off the walls. What is one family 311 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: argument that you would say reliably pops up every year? 312 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: Because I have this vivid memory for quite some time 313 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: of Christmas Eve always there being some massive argument, and 314 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: the family would all come together because Dad would come 315 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: down and start dancing when the kid's group on and 316 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: carries my candleight came on like Dad would make us 317 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: laugh by copying high fives, dance something and break the eyes. 318 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: I can't quite remember what the arguments were about, but 319 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: I think they were stemming from the fact that we 320 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: might have been having Christmas at our house and we 321 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: had to clean up stress. A lot of stress involved. 322 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about it, Mum and Dad 323 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: were probably trying to secretly rap presents or put things together. 324 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: So tensions were high. But yeah, I vividly remember one 325 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: day being outside I don't know, maybe we're looking at 326 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: the Christmas lights. It was light at this point, and 327 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: Dad came out in a garbage bag and hearing it. Yeah, 328 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: he came Maybe he didn't step outside in it, but 329 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: when we walked inside, I don't know, there was something 330 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: like had a garbage bag and that was him dressed 331 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: up as one of the members of High five. Oh 332 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: thank you for that. Actually, I do now that you're 333 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: saying act costumes a quote, and that just sort of 334 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: changed everything. But since those little TIFFs as a family, 335 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: Christmas Eve has become my favorite day. Yeah, I actually 336 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: enjoy it more than Christmas. I think in terms of 337 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: like the arguments that regularly pop up, it's always sort 338 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: of about, you know, I would say normally the arguments 339 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: sort of stem from, you know, working out Christmas Day 340 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: plans leading into Christmas and who's coming and who's not, 341 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: and that sort of thing, like the stress of trying 342 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: to work out a time that suits everyone to visit 343 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: because you don't want to miss out and seeing people. 344 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: But then also you know, when you have in laws, 345 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: and if your family starts to get bigger, it gets 346 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: more complicated, and then you don't want to offend anyone either. 347 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: I remember a recent Christmas Eve and we were having 348 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: everyone around to our house. So Christmas Eve, I was 349 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: in the kitchen. I was listening to Christmas music, really 350 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: enjoying it, getting all the stuff together, and Dale insisted 351 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: that he had to go next door because the neighbors 352 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: that invite us over, and I was like, thinking, well, 353 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: maybe could you kind of help clean up? Or you 354 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: know what I mean something as you hear world tends 355 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: to be getting the ice. See. I remember our dad's 356 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: role used to be going and collecting the chickens on Christmas. 357 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: Complaining about that already, but I loved going with him 358 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: because for some reason as a kid, it probably still 359 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: happens now, but it used to be, like, it's so 360 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: bizarre being out of the house and seeing other people 361 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: on Christmas Day, like everyone's Christmas Day. Yeah, yeah, no, 362 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: I love that too, so it just always seems so special. 363 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: But it was so funny because our kitchen's at the 364 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: back of our house, and I had the window open 365 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: and I could hear daye were talking to the neighbors 366 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: and laughing and I'm in they're frigging pealing, like twenty 367 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: potatoes or whatever. But I still had a great time. 368 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: Sounds like that, I actually genuinely did. I don't know 369 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: what is your earliest Christmas memory. I have memories of 370 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: being at our Auntie Drinda's coach house. Sorry, that sounds 371 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: really privilege. Well, our Auntie Rinda is a psychiatrist and 372 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: her husband was a psychiatrist, so you can kind of 373 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: get a theme of that. They were the rich side 374 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: of the family and they had an incredible house, Oh 375 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: my god. And at the because they had their Christmas 376 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: out in the coach house, this was it was always 377 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: at Granda Grandpa's, but that year it was at their house. 378 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: And Auntie Drinda had a gingerbread house that was incredible made. 379 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: It had like the candy State. This was like thirty 380 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: years ago when it wasn't a thing like you know 381 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: the Kardashians now, like Chris Jenna is always sending them 382 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: like those sort of massive gingerbread houses with all their 383 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: family like that. That was kind of the caliber of 384 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: the gingerbread house, Like it was a very fancy one. 385 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: And I remember we got sleeping bag that year and 386 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: our cousin Hamish was dragging us around in the sleeping bag. 387 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: I have a vivid memory of that too. I remember 388 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: a Christmas I don't know how old. We were at 389 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: Nana and Pappa's and it was in their back room 390 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: and I remember, just remember they had those bright colored curtains. 391 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 1: It was like yellow and green and white. And they 392 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: have a pool table and we'd always used to play 393 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: pool with Papa and it was just that long extended 394 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: table that was like Higgley pigglety, like different tablecloths, and 395 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: they have this specific decoration that our mum has now 396 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: that was our great grandparents that always sat in prime position. 397 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: And I remember Papa like I think we went there 398 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: Christmas Eve and Papa was trying to work out where 399 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: to put the place cards because it was always contentious 400 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: of who was sitting next to who. Well, I was 401 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: going to say, what do you think of place cards? 402 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: Yes or no? Well say for like yes, well for them. 403 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: With the small family lunch, I think people can sit 404 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: where they want. But it's quite It's funny because whenever 405 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: we host family dinner with our family and also with 406 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: Reese's family, everyone already has their spots. But I think 407 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: when it is a big Christmas family lunch, name tags 408 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: are imperatives. They need the Christmas dinner we're doing. Actually, 409 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: do you know what, I wouldn't mind having that because 410 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: then that sort of stops that awkward thing where someone 411 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: sits in the middle of the table and then there's 412 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: like a mismatch of people. Like I think it would 413 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: be good because I think the beauty is that people 414 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 1: can wander around anyway, but then you've got a set 415 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: spot and you're not having to like you know, sometimes 416 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: you want to sit next to your partner, or like 417 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: we might want to sit next with each other and 418 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: someone might steal the spot. Incidentally, like someone wrote in 419 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: and asked us Kate, how many drinks? There's too many 420 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: drinks on Christmas Day because people start drinking quite early 421 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: that you have your champagne breakfast. I'm not someone that 422 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: regularly drinks, Like I might have a drink at a 423 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,479 Speaker 1: stretch at a hen's party or for a very special 424 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: occasion like I had a Singapore sling at my wedding, 425 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: but so actually, but I don't actually drink on Christmas Day. 426 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: I think seven cans of coke is acceptable. Yeah, but 427 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: I think I mean, you do you like, as long 428 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: as you're not driving, I don't think it really matters, 429 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: as long as you're not being a pain in the 430 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: ass or your relatives. Well, it's funny because our cousins, 431 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: Cameron and Stuart, they always come in like normally we'll 432 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: catch up with them Christmas night and they've always got 433 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: to tell you of like I've had twelve beers. You're like, well, 434 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: that's like last year they came over to my house 435 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: and it's because they live a street away from me 436 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: that they brought their eski along and they had to 437 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: bring it on a trolley. And the way they came 438 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: in and entered the backyard with this freaking trolley, everyone 439 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: was like, these boys are into a big nighte It 440 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: was just so classically them and I love that they 441 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: had wheeled it down the street after consuming twelve beers 442 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: and probably went on to have about I'd know, quite 443 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: a few more after that. Well, those where we're gonna 444 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: leave part one of this special Christmas series. We'll be 445 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: dropping part two on Christmas Eve, and I hope people 446 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: listen to it while they're getting their Christmas dinner organized. Yeah, hopefully, 447 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: Today's episode is making you feel really festive. Can't wait 448 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 1: to be in your ears tomorrow and if you do 449 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: want to hear more from us, we drop a subscriber 450 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: only episode every Thursday that will be continuing throughout the 451 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: festive season. All the details to sign up in our 452 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: show notes. 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