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Speaker 1: This morning.

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Speaker 2: We have got Sky News bureau chief for the Northern Territory,

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Speaker 2: Matt Cunningham.

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Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Matt.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Katie.

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Speaker 2: We've got the Colpsmurray Claire Boothby. Good morning to you,

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Speaker 2: Maurray Claire.

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Speaker 4: Good morning Katy, and to all the listeners.

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Speaker 2: And for the first time in the studio for the

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Speaker 2: week that was, we have got the ALP's Brent Potter.

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Speaker 1: Good morning to your Brent, Katie.

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Speaker 5: Morning listeners.

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Speaker 1: Good to have you in the studio for the show.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: It is obviously a sad day, I think right around

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Speaker 2: the world, with Queen Elizabeth passing away overnight at the

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Speaker 2: age of ninety six. Buckingham Palace obviously confirming that this morning,

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Speaker 2: releasing a statement just after six thirty pm on Thursday

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Speaker 2: Local time three point thirty Australian Eastern Standard time, confirming

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Speaker 2: her death and the statement read the Queen died peacefully

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Speaker 2: at Balmorral this afternoon. The King and Queen Consort will

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Speaker 2: remain at Balmorral this evening and we'll return to London tomorrow. Charles,

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Speaker 2: who will be now known as King Charles. The third

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Speaker 2: issue to Statements, the death of his beloved mother was

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Speaker 2: a moment of the greatest sadness for me and all

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Speaker 2: members of my family, he said, we mourn profoundly the

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Speaker 2: passing of a cherished, sovereign and much loved mother. So

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Speaker 2: she had rained since nineteen fifty three, and I think,

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Speaker 2: whether you're a Royalist or not, it's an unbelievable amount

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Speaker 2: of time to serve, isn't it. It's like, it's an

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Speaker 2: unbelievable amount.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's incredible to think that most Australians have only

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Speaker 6: known this queen. You know, I'm forty five years old.

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Speaker 6: I've only known this queen. And the only person I

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Speaker 6: really know well who's known anyone other than this monarch

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Speaker 6: is my old man, you know, Like you know, for

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Speaker 6: most of us, this is it. And it's just been

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Speaker 6: a remarkable rain. I think one of the most extraordinary

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Speaker 6: things about Queen Elizabeth Katie is the fact that she

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Speaker 6: was able to. I mean, the role that she holds

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Speaker 6: is one that just by design and attracts so much controversy,

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Speaker 6: and yet she has managed to stay pretty much uncontroversial

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Speaker 6: over that period of time. I mean, there've been scandals

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Speaker 6: within the royal family, but she has always sat above that.

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Speaker 6: She has always maintained her dignity. She has never become

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Speaker 6: political and I think as a result of that, you know,

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Speaker 6: we're still a monarchy in this country. I think if

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Speaker 6: you had asked most Australians thirty years ago, in thirty

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Speaker 6: years time, will Australia be a republic, they would say yes.

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Speaker 6: I think the fact that the Queen has held herself

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Speaker 6: with such dignity, and the fact that Australians respect and

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Speaker 6: admire the Queen so much, I think that has a

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Speaker 6: lot to do with the fact that we're still a

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Speaker 6: monarchy today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're right, you know, she's been so solid

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Speaker 2: and consistent for such a long period of time. And

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Speaker 2: even to think just a couple of days ago she

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Speaker 2: was with the you know, the swearing in of the

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Speaker 2: of the new Prime Minister of the UK. It's unbelievable

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Speaker 2: to think up until the time of duty.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think there's plenty of people that

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Speaker 4: where she was there. And I think she was like

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Speaker 4: a woman of probably very few words, but when she

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Speaker 4: that air of grace about her. And I think I mean,

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Speaker 4: I'm even thinking of little things in my own life

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Speaker 4: which is her great grandson of course, and like it's

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Speaker 4: a small memory in my life. But I guess a

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Speaker 4: lot of people around the territory, of course Australia, in

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Speaker 4: the world, are going to be reflecting today on those little,

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Speaker 4: tiny moments that connect them and their families and their

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Speaker 4: special time, it really is.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, I can remember the day I signed did

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Speaker 5: two thousand and seven to the army. So and everything

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Speaker 5: you do is for the Queen. And as I said

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Speaker 5: today in my post to her, when you go to

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Speaker 5: to the Queen. So you know, for the last sort

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Speaker 5: I am I'm an enthusiast myself, but I can understand

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Speaker 2: Of people, absolutely, and you know she'd visited the Northern

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this morning I went and had a look at

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Speaker 6: the video. There's a great video from nineteen sixty three

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Speaker 6: when she visited the Northern Territory and she went to

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Speaker 6: watch the pictures from back then of the Queen. The

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Speaker 6: other thing that's remarkable about her is that you know,

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Speaker 6: and I think she was twenty five when she took

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Speaker 6: perhaps more authority even than it does now. And to

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Speaker 6: with such dignity over seventy years, it's just, you know,

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Speaker 6: it's an incredible feat it's something clearly will never be

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Speaker 6: achieved again. She's the longest serving monarch in history, and

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Speaker 6: I think things are going to change now. I think

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Speaker 6: now under King Charles the Third.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is where the conversation will turn, no

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Speaker 2: doubt towards next week. We are going to be speaking

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Speaker 2: to the Administrator, her honor, the Honorable Vicky O'Halloran just

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Speaker 2: after ten o'clock this morning. But she has obviously said

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Speaker 2: deeper sadness that we've learned of the passing of our

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Speaker 2: most gracious Sovereign, Her Majesty the Queen, and spoke about

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Speaker 2: as well. She's certainly said in this statement that she

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Speaker 2: reigned over a period of growth and prosperity, and oversaw

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Speaker 2: the granting of self government to the people of the

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Speaker 2: Northern Territory in nineteen seventy eight, the appointment of twelve

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Speaker 2: Chief Ministers sixteen administrators of the Northern Territory, and Her

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Speaker 2: Majesty unfailingly demonstrated her commitment to the service of the

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Speaker 1: I'll be really.

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Speaker 2: Interested to hear from our listeners this morning. I've got

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Speaker 2: a lot of people who listened to the show who've

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Speaker 2: to hear if anybody's met the Queen, if any of

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Speaker 2: understand that she was here before. Was it just before cyclone?

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Speaker 1: Tracy?

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Speaker 4: Well, Katie, I'm not sure about that particular at time,

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Speaker 4: but Josh Bergwin and l Springs actually remembers her coming

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Speaker 3: So that must have been about years.

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Speaker 4: Ago, two thousand, two two thousand apparently, and he said

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Speaker 4: he remembers just all the kids flying their flags. They

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Speaker 4: were so excited. I mean, what an amazing experience.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and no doubt you know there is going

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Speaker 2: to be a lot to come over coming days.

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Speaker 1: Were you going to say something, No, No.

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Speaker 6: I was just thinking agreeing what an amazing time it

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Speaker 6: would have been and the Queens. I remember when Barack

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Speaker 6: it must have been incredible.

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Speaker 2: When there are messages starting to flow through on the

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Speaker 2: text line this morning as well. I know plenty of

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Speaker 2: people will certainly remember have their different fond memories of

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Speaker 2: the Queen. Emilio and Rapid Creek has just messaged and said, Hi, Katie,

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Speaker 2: what a sad morning to wake up to the passing

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Speaker 2: of Queen Elizabeth. What an amazing lady. The things she's

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Speaker 2: seen change around the world and mostly the countries under

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Speaker 2: her commonwealth. Rest in peace, Queen Elizabeth. The second that

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Speaker 1: And Rapid a Creek.

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Speaker 2: And isn't that so true when you think about the

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Speaker 2: time that she's rained, It is unbelievable what would have

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Speaker 1: You know, there has been so much happened.

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Speaker 5: She's seen it all. I think, like everything we can remember,

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Speaker 5: she's seen it, and something, yeah, like it's just phenomenal.

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Speaker 6: Television didn't exist when when she began her reign, We'll

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Speaker 6: pretty remarkable. The other thing I think it's worth thinking

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Speaker 6: were saying, well, now Charles is the king in this

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Speaker 6: saying or when do we get another queen? And basically like, well,

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Speaker 6: you're basically not going to get one.

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Speaker 3: In your lifetime. You will probably not.

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Speaker 6: See another queen because you know, obviously we've got King

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Speaker 6: and you know, so it's remarkable. I mean, to have

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Speaker 6: for seventy years, it's just increavable.

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Speaker 2: And like you said, you know when you're pointed out

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Speaker 2: right from the get go that she had obviously become

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Speaker 1: It's such a young age. And I always think.

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Speaker 2: That leaders or people either rise to the occasion or

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Speaker 2: they don't, and didn't she certainly rise to the occasion.

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Speaker 1: There is no doubt about that.

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Speaker 2: We might take a very short break and when we

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Speaker 2: come back, we are going to speak about some of

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Speaker 2: the issues that we've faced here in the Northern Territory

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Speaker 2: throughout the week. If you do want to send us

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Speaker 2: a message this morning, though, we love hearing from me.

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Speaker 2: Zero four double nine seven double one three six zero.

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Speaker 2: we've got Matt Cunningham, Marie Claire Boothby and Brent Potter.

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Speaker 1: Now we know that it's been an.

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Speaker 2: Interesting week when it comes to news, and the Property

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Speaker 2: Council of the Northern Territory have released the results to

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Speaker 2: a recent survey which they've conducted, which shows that crime

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Speaker 2: and anti social behavior have emerged as key factors contributing

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Speaker 2: to the skill shortage. So the Property Council of the

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Speaker 2: Northern Territory, obviously they've contacted businesses and identified that forty

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Speaker 2: three percent of respondents believe people are leaving the territory

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Speaker 2: because of the high level of crime and anti social behavior.

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Speaker 2: Now eighty seven point five percent of actively recruiting are

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Speaker 2: actively recruiting i should say businesses, and one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: of those are experiencing difficulty filling jobs. Now that is

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Speaker 2: certainly not a surprise. I don't think to anybody when

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Speaker 2: you talk about the skill shortage that we've got in

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Speaker 2: the territory right now and right across the nation, there's

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Speaker 2: no doubt that it's happening.

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Speaker 1: Right around the place. But the skill shortage.

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Speaker 2: But then when you look at the impact that crime

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Speaker 2: it's this survey or whether you really look at some

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Speaker 2: of the different vision that we've seen on social media

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Speaker 5: you've just got to get overseas. Do the work attraction

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Speaker 1: Things as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I really hate that line from the government, if

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Speaker 1: In lud Miller. So it's you know, I get that.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's a great it's an incredible lifestyle, it's

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Speaker 3: We need to work.

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Speaker 6: Out how do we stop people from leaving, how do

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Speaker 6: I mean, how many friends we said goodbye to all.

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Speaker 6: When you've lived here for long enough, you sort of start,

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Speaker 5: The military had the same problem upcoming and serving up here,

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Speaker 5: but it was really difficult to get to their family

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Speaker 5: it easy to come and go from Darwin And those

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Speaker 6: I think that's a really good point because the other thing,

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Speaker 3: Home and it doesn't matter. You know, now you're looking

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Speaker 2: Yeah you got and then if you take your whole

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Speaker 4: I think, Katie, it doesn't matter where you go in

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Speaker 4: you know, we've got tourists who talk about that when

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Speaker 4: have to be realists and we have to address these

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Speaker 2: And look, I think it's really it is definitely well

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Speaker 2: worth pointing out that all of us live here because

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Speaker 2: we love living here. I don't you know, everybody could

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Speaker 2: But this issue of crime and anti social behavior, there's

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Speaker 2: if you do have workers coming across. But there's no

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Speaker 6: It's a bit of a tough one though, isn't it though,

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Speaker 6: At the time you go to an open for inspection,

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Speaker 6: it went through this massive boom, and then we build

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Speaker 6: So you've got to be careful. You've got to get

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Speaker 6: the you've got to get the balance, right. I think

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Speaker 6: build all of these new apartments. And then suddenly, you know,

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Speaker 5: And we're not going to get two thousand people arriving tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: And exactly your point. We've got plenty of time to

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Speaker 5: continue to do land release, continue to develop. There will

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Speaker 5: we do work attraction programs and there's some local businesses

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Speaker 5: to be apartments in townhouses. But I think some of

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Speaker 5: We've got time and we're working on it. And I

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Speaker 5: think it's you know, between government the proprivate proponents to

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Speaker 2: In one of those pieces of land in there is

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Speaker 6: Isn't she what the territory rights? You know, gosling to

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Speaker 6: stand up in territory rights. I mean, it was a

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Speaker 3: Now we've had that process.

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Speaker 6: I'm just not sure. And that raises real concerns about,

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Speaker 4: Can I just ask and go back a step too?

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Speaker 4: You know that they've gone over to each team one

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Speaker 4: we need people to use the facilities. It's all there.

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Speaker 4: It's sitting there pretty much doing nothing. I mean, what

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Speaker 5: Well, it's currently got another year that we need under

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Speaker 5: to be able to use every part of that facility,

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Speaker 5: so if multiple people want to use it, it needs to

440
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Speaker 5: go through a process, and it is going through the

441
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Speaker 5: department at the moment. I think though, we're also looking at,

442
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Speaker 5: like I said before, there's going to be significant numbers

443
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Speaker 5: of major projects coming that we'll need accommodation. All of

444
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Speaker 5: those things will be considered at some point in relation

445
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Speaker 5: to those projects, and that I'm sure if people came

446
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Speaker 5: and said, hey, we've got a thousand workers coming out

447
00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:31,720
Speaker 5: of these team or and we can find their flights

448
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Speaker 5: to get them here and we're looking for accommodation, of

449
00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,399
Speaker 5: course the gun will look at every opportunity you can

450
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Speaker 5: to get those people here.

451
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

452
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Speaker 4: I just think we can stand up really quickly when

453
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Speaker 4: there is a pandemic. And obviously that facility was you know,

454
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Speaker 4: everything was thrown at it to make sure we could

455
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Speaker 4: have it there. And then now we've had time where

456
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Speaker 4: it's been empty, and we still have more time where

457
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Speaker 4: it's going to be empty unless there's a problem, and

458
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Speaker 4: of course if there is, then we can address it.

459
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Speaker 4: But I mean, we've got a big space there, we

460
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Speaker 4: can use it. It's needed, So why not look at it.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm not saying I wouldn't. I thought it's not

462
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Speaker 5: on the table. I think it's of course it's on

463
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Speaker 5: the table. And you ask any minister, they would say

464
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Speaker 5: that we'll do anything we can to get the workers

465
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Speaker 5: in here. But there's there's not two and a half

466
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Speaker 5: thousand workers sitting right now saying we want to come

467
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Speaker 5: into day and we've got to find them and they

468
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Speaker 5: all come, like I said, they will come over a

469
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Speaker 5: period of time. I think there's more than enough in

470
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Speaker 5: the market at the moment to house them.

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Speaker 2: I definitely think though we are needing to fill some

472
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Speaker 2: of those jobs, certainly to fill that worker shortage in

473
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Speaker 2: so many different industries right now. I mean, you speak

474
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Speaker 2: to you speak to a lot of businesses and they

475
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Speaker 2: do say it is one of the biggest issues for

476
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Speaker 2: them is trying to attract or will to recruit people

477
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Speaker 2: to get here, to attract them and then.

478
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Speaker 6: Keep them and one of the biggest issues, and then

479
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Speaker 6: this came out in the job something. Last week has

480
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Speaker 6: been the red tape issue, like there was something like,

481
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Speaker 6: you know, the people waiting a year to get their

482
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Speaker 6: visas approved. You just can't have that in this situation.

483
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Speaker 6: The bureaucracy needs to needs to be exactly right, smartness,

484
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Speaker 6: sacked up or get out of the way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was talking to somebody about that and the

486
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Speaker 2: you know, the increase in the cap on migration, and

487
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Speaker 2: they said, well, you can increase it to whatever you like,

488
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Speaker 2: but if it's taking such a long period of time

489
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Speaker 2: to process the meaning way, there is no point.

490
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Speaker 1: And that's you.

491
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Speaker 2: Know, that is such an important thing that does need

492
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Speaker 2: to be to be moved along by the sounds of it. Anyway,

493
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 2: we'll take a very quick break. You are listening to

494
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Speaker 2: mix on four nine. It is the week that was.

495
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Speaker 1: You gotta go a better.

496
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Speaker 2: Well, it is just after nine thirty, And I tell

497
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Speaker 2: you what, we always get some interesting messages during the

498
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Speaker 2: week that was, and I did receive one just a

499
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Speaker 2: few minutes ago. Now let me read it out for you,

500
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Speaker 2: and it says, Hello, this is Noel pagem KESI as mother,

501
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Speaker 2: where's my daughter, Kesier, what have you done with her?

502
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Speaker 1: Kesey is not here this morning.

503
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Speaker 2: Kezier is at a school assembly as I understand it. Noel,

504
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Speaker 2: hopefully we'll have it back next week. We love having

505
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Speaker 2: Kesi on the show and Noel, we very often joke

506
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Speaker 2: whenever we get a very positive message for Kesier that

507
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Speaker 2: it's her mum texting in.

508
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Speaker 1: And now I'm very pleased to know that you don't

509
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Speaker 1: text in.

510
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Speaker 3: Now we know this story behind that.

511
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Speaker 1: I love it.

512
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 2: I love that she's checking into with me to see

513
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Speaker 2: where a daughter is. We'll try and contact her for

514
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Speaker 2: you knowl I'm sure she'll be back next week. Now.

515
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Speaker 1: There is other messages coming through.

516
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Speaker 2: There's one here that says, Katie, it's cheaper for me

517
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Speaker 2: to fly cans to Tokyo return rather than it is

518
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 2: for Darwin to Can's return.

519
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Speaker 1: And you know, when you talk about.

520
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Speaker 2: Those flights, it does have such a big impact on

521
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 2: the liveability in the Northern Territory and on people sort

522
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 2: of staying here longer term. The easier that you can

523
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Speaker 2: get back if you come from somewhere else, from another

524
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Speaker 2: state to go and see your family, and the cheaper

525
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 2: that you can do it. Obviously, the better, but those

526
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Speaker 2: you know, the cost of flights at the moment and

527
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Speaker 2: around Australia is just astronomical.

528
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Speaker 6: And the people in Alice Springs are saying, well, now

529
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Speaker 6: you know how we feel.

530
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Speaker 2: I think.

531
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Speaker 6: When this issue came up a couple of years ago

532
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Speaker 6: and there were people in Alice Springs saying someone from

533
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Speaker 6: Alice Springs was flying from Alice Springs to Adelaide and

534
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Speaker 6: then Adelaide to Europe, yep, and it was costing them

535
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Speaker 6: more that Alice Springs to Adelaide. Leg was costing them

536
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Speaker 6: more than the Adelaide to Europe league.

537
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

538
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Speaker 2: Quite a few years ago we went to Hawaii. It

539
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 2: was cheaper for us to fly from Sydney to Hawaii

540
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Speaker 2: than what it was to fly from Darwin to Sydney.

541
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Speaker 2: And that's no joke, you know, like you go, That's

542
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Speaker 2: where it makes it really difficult living in regional parts

543
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Speaker 2: of Australia. And I do think that if we ever

544
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Speaker 2: get serious, I mean we always talk right around the nation.

545
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Speaker 2: You talk so much about developing the North and being

546
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Speaker 2: serious about really trying to push for regional Australia, But

547
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Speaker 2: then when you talk about that, how can you ever

548
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Speaker 2: really do that? If we don't make it more accessible

549
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Speaker 2: for people and more accessible to.

550
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Speaker 1: Be able to go to other parts of Australia.

551
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Speaker 2: And I don't know how you do that when you've

552
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Speaker 2: got airlines sort of you know, making business decisions.

553
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Speaker 4: Out of control. And unfortunately airlines are a corporate so

554
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Speaker 4: that there's not a lot of government influence there. I'm

555
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 4: sure there are some leavers which I don't know about,

556
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Speaker 4: but I think as a jurisdiction, you know, if we

557
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Speaker 4: look at the economy, if it's a thriving economy with

558
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Speaker 4: lots of things happening, lots of projects, then of course

559
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Speaker 4: people will be coming and then it's a demand issue

560
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 4: then so I think the commercial of their lines will

561
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Speaker 4: start to look at that, and so I think we

562
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Speaker 4: just always need to be working on getting our economy

563
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Speaker 4: into the space we needed to be. And at the moment,

564
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Speaker 4: you know, the last fifteen reports in a row with Comsex,

565
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Speaker 4: we're dead last compared to all the other states. So

566
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Speaker 4: we haven't seen any kind of light at the end

567
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Speaker 4: of the tunnel. We're we're going to get back to

568
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Speaker 4: that place.

569
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Speaker 5: Where the growth state product was the strongest during COVID

570
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Speaker 5: than any other jurisdiction for a period.

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Speaker 1: Of timely interesting.

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Speaker 5: Last month we didn't grow as much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say we did have an

574
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Speaker 2: interesting The Bureau of Statistics or the Australian Bureau of

575
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Speaker 2: Statistics Starter it was released on Wednesday, I believe, this week,

576
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Speaker 2: and showed that the territory state final demand declined by

577
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Speaker 2: zero point five percent in that June quarter, the second

578
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Speaker 2: decline in the past three quarters, and I believe we

579
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Speaker 2: were the worst performing in the country. Look, it doesn't

580
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Speaker 2: feel that way in the territory though at the moment,

581
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Speaker 2: which I think is interesting.

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Speaker 6: I think you always get a feel for it, don't you.

583
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Speaker 6: Back here in twenty fifteen to twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen,

584
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Speaker 6: when i'd left the impact boom was still happening, and

585
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Speaker 6: then came back in twenty sixteen and thought, oh my god,

586
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Speaker 6: I've walked into a ghost town. But in the last

587
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Speaker 6: couple of years, I mean I'm only speaking for Darwin obviously,

588
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Speaker 6: but the place feels like it's had a real buzz

589
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Speaker 6: about it. You feel like the restaurants are full again,

590
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Speaker 6: that you know new businesses are opening, that you know

591
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Speaker 6: the plate and even talking to people you know who

592
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Speaker 6: are saying as we were saying before, the biggest issue

593
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Speaker 6: people have got.

594
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Speaker 3: Is now finding staff.

595
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Speaker 6: You know, you're now going to you're going out for

596
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Speaker 6: dinner and you're having to wait for a long time

597
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Speaker 6: because you know, they're just overworked and they don't have

598
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Speaker 6: the staff to to basically keep up with the met demand.

599
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Speaker 4: I think the feeling that we have, you know, it's there,

600
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Speaker 4: of course, and we see that in our full restaurants,

601
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Speaker 4: et cetera. But the problem is that stats don't lie.

602
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Speaker 4: And you know, the way that we feel does change

603
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 4: from week to week in the territory depending on what's happening.

604
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Speaker 4: But you know, we've got several reports out there. We

605
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Speaker 4: have the Australian Bureau of Statistics with the com Sect

606
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Speaker 4: that Deloitte's. You know, we're dead lae in all of

607
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 4: those reports, and I think we can't ignore those things.

608
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Speaker 4: We still have to keep working on.

609
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Speaker 5: It were fifteen billion dollars committed funds for major projects

610
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Speaker 5: and another forty billion dollars worth of waiting to get

611
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Speaker 5: to FID. I mean that's real money, real dollars. I

612
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Speaker 5: think if you're talking about business confidence, that's fifteen billion

613
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 5: dollars that shareholders and companies have said we're going to.

614
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Speaker 3: Invest so long, so long as it is real.

615
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the process one of the problems still going ahead.

616
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Speaker 5: Road to that don't correct dis credit anything until the

617
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Speaker 5: company comes out and says not. I mean the roads

618
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Speaker 5: have been put in there for them, and I think

619
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Speaker 5: it's a great project if it progresses, and it will,

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Speaker 5: I think from when we went to Japan and spoke

621
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Speaker 5: to them so.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I did just get another message twelve hundred

623
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Speaker 2: dollars return down and to Alice this week. That was

624
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Speaker 2: if this person book three weeks ago, no thanks. And

625
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Speaker 2: you know that's the other hard part is that when

626
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Speaker 2: we're really trying to you know, to get around the

627
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Speaker 2: Northern Territory, you're wanting to make sure that we're supporting

628
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Speaker 2: those tourism businesses as well in the you know, within

629
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Speaker 2: the Northern.

630
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Speaker 1: Territory itself, I e. Alice Springs.

631
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Speaker 2: I'd love, like I would absolutely love to be able

632
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Speaker 2: to take the family to Alice Springs or to see

633
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Speaker 2: all the arroue for the weekend, but at the moment

634
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Speaker 2: it is just unaffordable.

635
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Speaker 6: Fifteen hundred for me earlier this week returns Alice. It

636
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Speaker 6: doesn't worry me because I wasn't paying, you know, but

637
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 6: it is cost prohibitive if you're thinking of, you know,

638
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 6: doing the holiday within the territory when you've.

639
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 4: Got those rising cost of living. That's right now we're

640
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 4: still seeing our field prices and the excess is going

641
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 4: to end shortly. And you know, the solar tariff was slashed.

642
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 4: You've got all these things that add up. Of course,

643
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 4: people are going to be saying, well, you know, can

644
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Speaker 4: I afford to look that flight?

645
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Speaker 1: Well, I do want to just talk about that.

646
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Speaker 2: We know that nationally, we learned that the Reserve Bank

647
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Speaker 2: raised the interest rates again by zero point five percent

648
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: of well zero point five percent, taking the cash rate

649
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: target to two point three five percent. Now, according to

650
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 2: this analysis by rate City, the latest increase is going

651
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Speaker 2: to add a further two hundred and sixteen dollars a

652
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Speaker 2: month to a seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars mortgage.

653
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Speaker 1: Now we know that that.

654
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Speaker 2: Cost of living is up for everybody, I think, whether

655
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Speaker 2: you're in the territory or no matter where you are,

656
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: if you if you do have a home loan. But

657
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Speaker 2: even as we've discussed, the cost to rent is certainly

658
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Speaker 2: on the rise, not only here in the territory. But

659
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Speaker 2: we are certainly feeling the pinch in the territory and

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Speaker 2: as you pointed out, Mary Clare, you know the cost

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Speaker 2: of things like petrol, our groceries. But then the issue

662
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Speaker 2: that continues to roll on. And we did learn a

663
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Speaker 2: little earlier this week when I caught up with the

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Speaker 2: president of Union's NT Dave Hayes, that there is going

665
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Speaker 2: to be further industrial action next week Wednesday, I believe

666
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Speaker 2: is when it is looking as though there's going to

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Speaker 2: be teachers and also energy employers employees I should say,

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Speaker 2: among those planning to go on strike again next week.

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Speaker 2: I can't see these rolling strikes ending in a hurry, no.

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Speaker 4: I they were really clear about that last week when

671
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Speaker 4: the entire SELP opposition went there to support most of

672
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Speaker 4: our frontline workers. Really we had teachers, nurses, firefighters, police

673
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Speaker 4: all there trying to send a message to the labor

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Speaker 4: government that they need real action regardless wage freeze. I mean,

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Speaker 4: we would actually and that wage freeze over because we

676
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Speaker 4: need territories to stay here. We need to support our

677
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Speaker 4: frontline workers.

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Speaker 2: Of course.

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Speaker 4: I mean you just have to look at the Langlank

680
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Speaker 4: report for budget repair and the government just walked away

681
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Speaker 4: from that completely. I mean, that was their own report.

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Speaker 2: The big question I suppose that we get quite a

683
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Speaker 2: bit on the tech signe though, as well, is how's

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Speaker 2: the CLP going to afford it? If the Labor Party

685
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Speaker 2: can't afford it, how's the CLP going to cut teachers?

686
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Speaker 3: Again?

687
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Speaker 4: Five hundred of them, Yeah, that was an absolute myth.

688
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Speaker 5: But you did like, I mean, that's not a myth.

689
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Speaker 5: You want to give people a pay rise. And I'll

690
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Speaker 5: be upfront, we support people being able to take their

691
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Speaker 5: protect action. We'll continue to work in good faith with them.

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Speaker 5: We'll obviously come to an arrangement at some point. We

693
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Speaker 5: need to negotiat and be at the table. But I

694
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Speaker 5: think the one thing that though the teachers union and

695
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Speaker 5: the unions know is that we're not going to cut jobs.

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Speaker 5: We made that very clear to them. We don't want

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Speaker 5: to see a public servant who does a great job

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Speaker 5: for us whore inn essential service in many instances, lose

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Speaker 5: a job and then not be able to provide for

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Speaker 5: their family.

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Speaker 6: The problem you're in at the moment is not because

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Speaker 6: you're not cutting jobs. It's because you said you'd freeze

703
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Speaker 6: the public service and you didn't and then you said

704
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Speaker 6: you'd put a cap on the public service.

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Speaker 3: And you didn't.

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Speaker 6: You know, the numbers I think when labor came to

707
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Speaker 6: government were about twenty one thousand, and I think they've

708
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Speaker 6: grown by another two thousand since. And the problem you've

709
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Speaker 6: got now is that if you give in to the

710
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Speaker 6: demands of the union, and you know everyone here would

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Speaker 6: sympathize with every one of those frontline workers who was

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Speaker 6: striking last week, and there was probably close to a

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Speaker 6: thousand of them, and the nurses aren't allowed to strike,

714
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Speaker 6: and neither of the police. So and you can absolutely

715
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Speaker 6: understand their frustration. Their wages have been frozen at a

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Speaker 6: time when inflation is at a record high. I think

717
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Speaker 6: it's at seven percent, so you're effectively going seven percent backwards.

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Speaker 6: And they've never worked harder, so you absolutely you're in

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Speaker 6: their camp. The problem the government's got is if it

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Speaker 6: gives it a pay rise, its budget situation is already

721
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Speaker 6: in such a parlous position that you know, you're just

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Speaker 6: making it so much worse and so, and then the

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Speaker 6: other problem you've got on top of that is that

724
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Speaker 6: you've got two thousand more public servants than when land

725
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Speaker 6: handing it down his report saying if you don't freeze

726
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Speaker 6: the numbers, now are you going to be in real trouble. So,

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Speaker 6: I mean we have in a lot of ways. It's

728
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Speaker 6: a mess of the government's mate, that's right.

729
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Speaker 1: And so what.

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Speaker 4: We have is the Labor government who basically tries to

731
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Speaker 4: continue to blame the CELP. And I mean the CELP

732
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Speaker 4: were only in power four years out of twenty one.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying that's a government's own making and it

734
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Speaker 4: has no plan to fix it.

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Speaker 5: I'm a union member. I'm not going to you know,

736
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Speaker 5: we've made it very clear we sit. I mean to

737
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Speaker 5: go out there during parliament just to go and get

738
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Speaker 5: the photo. I mean, at the end of the day, we.

739
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Speaker 4: Were standing side by side without.

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Speaker 5: Everyone on the labor sides. Union members, we stand with you,

741
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Speaker 5: we understand the union.

742
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Speaker 2: One went out there because I remember I worked for

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Speaker 2: Tonight many many many years ago when he was the

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Speaker 2: Minister for Public Employment, and I remember being his media

745
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Speaker 2: advisor and saying, Rob, I don't know if you should

746
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Speaker 2: go down there, mate, I don't know that it's a

747
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Speaker 2: good idea. When they were striking downstairs, he said, nut Wolfy,

748
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Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm going down there, I'll face them.

749
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Speaker 2: And he went down down, he marched and we sort of,

750
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Speaker 2: you know, walked out with him. And it actually was

751
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Speaker 2: the right thing to do because it strated that he

752
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Speaker 2: was prepared to listen to their concerns. And so I

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Speaker 2: am keen to know why didn't anyone from labor sort

754
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Speaker 2: of go down there and hear on First.

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Speaker 5: There was a parliamentary sitting day. We were listening to

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Speaker 5: a minister and statement.

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Speaker 3: I didn't start till ten were.

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Speaker 5: Every one of us were in parliament when they were striking.

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Speaker 6: And secondly, at what time does parliament start ten o'clock?

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Speaker 3: They were at nine o'clock. They started at nine o'clock.

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Speaker 5: They didn't go out until the middle of Parliament waited

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Speaker 5: to the middle of.

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Speaker 3: I was there at plenty of plenty. There were plenty

764
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Speaker 3: of plenty of people you could have gone and spoke

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Speaker 3: to between nine o'clock.

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Speaker 5: And only the one person speaking at a time when

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Speaker 5: you're talking on an important issue around the hospitality and

768
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Speaker 5: tourism sector, which I think there's many people listening that

769
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Speaker 5: are involved in. I think we owe them the responsibility

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Speaker 5: as parliamentarians to be in parliament.

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Speaker 3: To hang on. They were there an hour before parliament started.

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Speaker 3: You can't.

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Speaker 6: You could have, you know, shore from ten o'clock you

774
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Speaker 6: needed to be in Parliament, But between nine o'clock and

775
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Speaker 6: ten o'clock any and you guys knew they were going

776
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Speaker 6: to be there from nine o'clock, you guys could have

777
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Speaker 6: gone down there and spoken to it.

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Speaker 2: Is that like they were really angry, and I guess

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Speaker 2: you know, the difficulty that we've got now is that,

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Speaker 2: you know, the government's not really in a situation where

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Speaker 2: they can offer a huge you know a huge amount

782
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Speaker 2: of extra money or there's there's not a huge.

783
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Speaker 1: Amount of bargaining.

784
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Speaker 2: I would suspect based on the Northern Territories budget and

785
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Speaker 2: the way that the books are looking.

786
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Speaker 1: But then we've got.

787
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Speaker 2: A situation where everybody sort of wants to support those

788
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Speaker 2: frontline workers. We want to support teachers. I know I

789
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Speaker 2: certainly support the teachers and you know, and other frontline workers.

790
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Speaker 2: But it is starting to get disruptive and it is

791
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Speaker 2: going to get more and more disruptive then for families,

792
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Speaker 2: for their children who are at school. As you get

793
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Speaker 2: towards the end of the year, or as you get

794
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Speaker 2: towards the end of the semester, so I think a

795
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Speaker 2: lot of people listening are wondering, how are we going

796
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Speaker 2: to come to a conclusion here, and how are we

797
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Speaker 2: going to sort this out?

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Speaker 5: Not necessarily financial. I think if you listen to the teachers,

799
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Speaker 5: some of them would tell you that it's all of

800
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Speaker 5: the other things that come into account. So it doesn't

801
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Speaker 5: necessarily need to be a financial piece. For some, it

802
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Speaker 5: will be, for some won't. But I think to say

803
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Speaker 5: that we don't, you know, it has to be a

804
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 5: financial outcome, I don't necessarily think that's true. I think

805
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Speaker 5: you'll find that there are other mechanisms that can be

806
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Speaker 5: put on the table in part of negotiations that they

807
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Speaker 5: can achieve that. And I think when people go for

808
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Speaker 5: a job, they don't just look at the dollars, They

809
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Speaker 5: look at the culture and the other additionals that come

810
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Speaker 5: with this.

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Speaker 4: So what is changing that? I mean, we continually hear

812
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Speaker 4: from the government that what they are doing is working,

813
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Speaker 4: and yet everything else, every other statistic tells you otherwise,

814
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Speaker 4: Like what is the change?

815
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Speaker 5: Talking EBA here? You just talk. You want to go

816
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Speaker 5: back to crime like we always do, Like I mean,

817
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Speaker 5: we're talking EBAs. At the end of the day, the

818
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Speaker 5: unions will sit down with the Office of Public Employment,

819
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Speaker 5: the Commissioner, and they will sit down with and Kirby

820
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Speaker 5: will sit there as well and work through that and

821
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Speaker 5: will negotiate in good faith.

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Speaker 4: Will been going on for a very long time.

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Speaker 5: I mean wendstand EBAs negotiations, that's what happens. They take

824
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Speaker 5: time that you have to go through the process. They're

825
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Speaker 5: not just here's an offer, take and when you start tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: I think I think the issue, the looming issue, is

827
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Speaker 6: that we're coming towards the end of the year, and

828
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Speaker 6: when it comes to teachers and even police, that they

829
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Speaker 6: could get to the end of the year and go right,

830
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Speaker 6: I'm going home for Christmas and I can get a

831
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Speaker 6: better deal into Satan and so I'm coming back. And

832
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Speaker 6: then you know, the negotiations with the nurses have only

833
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Speaker 6: just begun, and I'm not sure how in this. I mean,

834
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Speaker 6: I know from a financial point of view why the

835
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Speaker 6: government is freezing paid because they need to, right. But

836
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Speaker 6: at the same time, it's going to be very difficult

837
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Speaker 6: for the government to turn around and say to nurses

838
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Speaker 6: have just worked harder than they've ever worked through a pandemic,

839
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Speaker 6: turn around and say thanks very much for all your

840
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Speaker 6: hard work, your pay rise is zero dolls.

841
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Speaker 2: This is the thing and this is where you know

842
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Speaker 2: the government certainly between a rock and a hard place.

843
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 2: At this point we are going to take a really

844
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Speaker 2: short break. You are listening to Mix one O four

845
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Speaker 2: nine's three sixty. It is the week that was. You

846
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Speaker 2: are listening to Mix one O four nine. It is

847
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Speaker 2: just ten minutes away from ten o'clock. And if you

848
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Speaker 2: have just joined us in the studio this morning is

849
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Speaker 2: Matt Cunningham, Murray, Claire Boothby and Brent Potter.

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Speaker 1: And well, it's been an interesting week.

851
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Speaker 2: We know that in Catherine over last weekend, I've got

852
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Speaker 2: a message from davire In It says, Hi, Katie, can

853
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 2: you please ask afl NT what's happening following the rite

854
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 2: we had last weekend at the footy in Catherine.

855
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Speaker 1: I was there and it was pretty outrageous.

856
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Speaker 2: People being capsicum sprayed and being told the Camels need

857
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Speaker 2: an exit plan.

858
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Speaker 1: Is not good, says Dave in Ktown. It's not good

859
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Speaker 1: at all.

860
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Speaker 2: Look, as most people know, I grew up in Mount

861
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Speaker 2: Isa and I certainly recall a few pretty bad situations.

862
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Speaker 1: I've got to say.

863
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 2: At the rugby League in Mount Issa, where your brother

864
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Speaker 2: and others are being rushed into the dressing sheds.

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Speaker 6: I remember getting escorted out of Too Stadium by security

866
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Speaker 6: about twenty five years ago after after ELMA final.

867
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is the thing, but as long as

868
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Speaker 2: it was a new getting capsicum spray. But Jerry Wood

869
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Speaker 2: called in yesterday and he said, Katie, I want to

870
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Speaker 2: point out as well that you know, while there is

871
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Speaker 2: that negativity around what had gone on, he wanted to

872
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Speaker 2: point out that the women's game was absolutely fantastic and

873
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Speaker 2: that everybody had behaved really well and done the right thing.

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Speaker 2: And this is the point, isn't it. When something like

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Speaker 2: that happens, it really does sort of put a cloud

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Speaker 2: over the whole thing.

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Speaker 6: It does, is no doubt about that. And you might

878
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 6: remember as well, well, do you remember in Alice Springs?

879
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 6: I reckon it's about two thousand and seven or two.

880
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 6: I think it was two thousand and seven, there was

881
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 6: a massive brawl after the Grand Final in Alice Springs.

882
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 6: Like everyone who was at Trager Park I think just

883
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 6: about was involved. It was huge and it went for days.

884
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 6: And it does when that sort of thing happens, as

885
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 6: it did in Catherine last weekend.

886
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 3: It does.

887
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 6: You know, it's unacceptable and it shouldn't happen. And you know,

888
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 6: what happens on the field needs to stay on the field.

889
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 6: And you know, we all anyone who's played footy knows that.

890
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 6: I think we also need to remember that the overwhelming

891
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 6: good that sport plays, sport plays in our community.

892
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 3: I mean, I shuddered to think.

893
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 6: You know, we have so many issues when it comes

894
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 6: to Aboriginal territories in so many areas that we talk

895
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 6: about all the time.

896
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 3: The one area.

897
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 6: Where you would have to say that they thrive and

898
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 6: are absolute champions in this community is in sport, in

899
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 6: particular in Australian rules football. Look at how many role

900
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 6: models have come out of the Northern Territory through Ossie

901
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 6: rules football. So, you know, I think there's a lesson

902
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 6: to the people involved in that Catherine incident that that's

903
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 6: totally unaccepted. That is not what happens when you lose

904
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 6: a game of football. You do not behave like that

905
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 6: and it should never ever ever happen. And I'm sure

906
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 6: the AFL will come down hard on the people, you know,

907
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 6: who are involved in doing the wrong thing. But I

908
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 6: think we also need to remember the good that sport

909
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 6: plays in our community, in particular, particularly AFL footy. It's

910
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 6: been overwhelmingly beneficial.

911
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, you'll get no argument from me when

912
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: it comes to sport. I love my sport.

913
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: And speaking of Matt, there's been a bit of movement

914
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 2: in the basketball.

915
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: Hasn't there.

916
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 6: Well, there's a push on, as you know, Katie, for

917
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 6: an NBL team, and is the NBL Blitz that's being

918
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 6: held in a week or so's time, which is going

919
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 6: to be pretty big all the NBL teams coming up

920
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 6: to play. But there's talk about, you know, we need

921
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 6: a stadium if we're going to have an NBL team,

922
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 6: And I think there's already discussions going on about whether

923
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 6: the Convention Sent can be converted into a stadium where

924
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 6: NBL basketball can be played. So, I mean, obviously we've

925
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 6: talked a bit about the fiscal issues that are facing

926
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 6: the Northern.

927
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 3: Territory of the main.

928
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 6: I'm sure a new one, but I'm not sure what

929
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 6: the price tag on converting the Convention Center would be.

930
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 6: Maybe hopefully not too prohibitive, but I think it'd be

931
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 6: pretty exciting if we could get a team here in

932
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 6: a national sporting competition. I think you've already seen from

933
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 6: the Salties how popular they've been. And I think the

934
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 6: one thing we talk about how great living in Darwin is,

935
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 6: I reckon the one thing we miss here is having

936
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 6: a team in a national competition, whatever competition that may be,

937
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 6: that we could all get out there and support every territory.

938
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 5: I agree with you, and I think listen, territories listening,

939
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 5: they should go out, buy the tickets, go to the Blitz,

940
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 5: stack the stack, the stadium, and then three on three

941
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 5: because that will demonstrate to the NBA that we're serious

942
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 5: and we've got the people that will support such a team.

943
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 5: And the Sulties do a great job so the first

944
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 5: year and they turnout, we're getting in that and if

945
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 5: we can you know, if it is the convention Center

946
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 5: that can actually used indoor air con during the during

947
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 5: the wet season, and we can use that as the stadium,

948
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 5: it's probably a good introm to start with. And you know,

949
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 5: start small, but if we can get a national team,

950
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 5: I think you're right. At the end of the day,

951
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 5: everyone wants to see the territory in some form of

952
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 5: a national sporting body.

953
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 3: Maybe in the NRL. Your brother News for him in

954
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 3: the last week or so.

955
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. So my brother Ben's going to Saint George is

956
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: their assistant coach, and my brother Christian is going to

957
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 2: be the assistant coach of the Dolphins and then take over.

958
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 3: Not just an yes you got him on for an

959
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 3: interview yet come on.

960
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: Because he would just tease me basically to find out

961
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: the real what it was really No.

962
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: No, no, all from Mount Isser. We grew up in

963
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 2: good old Mound Isser, so yes, plenty of people out

964
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: in Mount Eyes are very very happy rugby league.

965
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: Mad rugby league fans.

966
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 2: So yeah, Christmas will be interesting, no doubt when we

967
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 2: talk about who's going to be.

968
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: The better team. But anyway, we better wrap up.

969
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 2: Always wonderful to have you all in the studio. Matt Cunningham,

970
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 2: Sky News Bureau chief for the Northern Territory, thank you

971
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 2: for your time this morning.

972
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 3: Thanks Wolfy.

973
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 2: Marie Claire Boothy from the COLP, thank you so much

974
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 2: for your time this morning.

975
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 4: Thank you. And I just want to give a huge

976
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 4: shout out to the Parmesan Raiders and the Parmesan Northern

977
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 4: Sharks who are both in the eighth grade Grand Final

978
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 4: this Saturday night.

979
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, gonna be Massy Darrel.

980
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's going to be amazing and I think this

981
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 4: is the second year in a robe both those teams

982
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 4: have played, so go to Parmerston. They are absolutely.

983
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: Representing wonderful stuff. And Brent Posh from the ALP, thank

984
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: you so much for joining us this morning. Thanks Lo Cody,

985
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: thank you, and it has been the week that was

986
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 2: coming your way. In a few minutes time, we are

987
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 2: going to be speaking to the Administrator of the Northern Territory,

988
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: her honor, the Honorable Vicky O'Halleran.