1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: For a very very long time afterway injury, I really 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: wasn't very confident. I kind of didn't really have anywhere 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: to live, any will to live, sorry to put it 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: very bluntly, and it kind of took me, it felt 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: like a lifetime anyway to build my life back up. 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: And I think that kind of really comes across in 7 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: the way I am now. I think one of the 8 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: reasons why I'm so unapologetic now is I think I've 9 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: already wasted so much time, and I think going forward, 10 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: I kind of don't want to waste any more of that, 11 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: and I kind of just want to take up everything 12 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: that life has to offer. 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: Welcome back to. 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 3: The Writers and Conquered podcast. I'm your host Georgie Stephenson, 15 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 3: former lawyer turned entrepreneur, social media personality and personal development junkie. 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 3: This podcast is for my girl gang who want to 17 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 3: feed their mind with positive and expansive thoughts to help 18 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: them step into their power and live their most authentic life. 19 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 3: We chat a variety of topics including mindset, business, relationships, health, 20 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: and so much more. Basically, wherever you are on your journey, 21 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 3: I want to help you feel inspired and empowered to 22 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 3: rise up and conquer your next bold move. I know 23 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: that's going to look different for everyone, but just no, 24 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 3: I'm right here by your side and that you have 25 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 3: the RNC community behind you. 26 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 4: Let's do this. 27 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 3: Hello and welcome back to the Rising Conquer podcast. Today 28 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 3: we are joined by Sophie Bchelor. If you don't know 29 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: who Sophie is from the GRAM, what are you doing? 30 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: She is an unapologetic disabled queen empowering women and creating change. 31 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 3: So almost four years ago, Sophie was in an accident 32 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: that left her paralyzed from the waist down. Since then, 33 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,279 Speaker 3: Sophie has gone on to make waves in the world 34 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 3: by empowering women and people with disabilities to rise up 35 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 3: and live unapologetically as their most authentic selves. Sophie is 36 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: known for using her platform to educate others on how 37 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 3: we can be more accepting, inclusive, and accessible society. It 38 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: was an absolute pleasure to have soph on the show, 39 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: and we really get into things like what it's like 40 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: living with a disability, how she maintains her confidence, what 41 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 3: Soph's accident has taught her, and how it showed her 42 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 3: what is really important in life. Sophie also explains to 43 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: us how we can better educate ourselves so that we 44 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 3: can work towards being a more inclusive and accessible society. 45 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 3: She is such a ray of sunshine. I just know 46 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 3: you guys are gonna love this app like I did. 47 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 3: Let's welcome Sophie to the show. Sophie, Welcome to the 48 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: Rise and Conquer Podcast. 49 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 4: Good morning or should I say good evening, guys. 50 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 2: Sofa is from the UK. 51 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 3: So it's a five pm in the afternoon for me 52 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 3: on Wednesday, and Sofa has just started her Wednesday and 53 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: it's about eight am. 54 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 4: There the power of time. 55 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 2: So weird. How good is the internet though? 56 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: I know? 57 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 4: Amazing? 58 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 3: Well, so I really want to get into your amazing 59 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: story and just you as a person because you are 60 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 3: so incredible. But before we do that, a question I 61 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: ask all my guests is what is your favorite quote 62 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: that helps you rise and conquer? 63 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 4: Oh? What a very very good question. Do you know what? 64 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: There's so many quotes circulate in for I think because 65 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: we have the power of the internet now, every time 66 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: to see a quote, I'm like, that's my favorite quote. 67 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 4: Ever. They have like a bank of like a hundred quotes. 68 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: One quote that I do love is that no one 69 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: is you and that is your power. I just think 70 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: that's just like a really really powerful quote. 71 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Sophie, that is literally my favorite like quote. 72 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: I have it all over like my notepads, my vision board, everywhere. 73 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 3: I resonate with that so much so and no one's 74 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: ever said it. So I'm so happy you did. 75 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 4: I'm glad that energy is matching. 76 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, same vibe. Guys absolutely love that. The R and 77 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 3: C gang will absolutely love that. But Sophie, for those 78 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 3: who don't know who you are, can you just give 79 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: us a little snapshot of who Sophie is what she does. 80 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 81 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: Absolutely. It's always hard to do that with someone. It's 82 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: like a snapshot of your life and you're like, where 83 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: do I start? But yeah, So I'm Sophie Butler. I'm 84 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,559 Speaker 1: from the UK. If you cann't tell, but by my accent, 85 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty obvious. But yeah, I live here 86 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: in the UK, and just like Georgia, I'm a Jim 87 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: Shark athlete, I work with Jim Shark. I'm also of 88 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: social media influencer. I work with a lot of fashion 89 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: brands and I also create a lot of disability advocate 90 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: content online because I myself am a disabled. I'm a 91 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: full time waarlchair user, so I'm basically paralyzed from the 92 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: waist down, and I became paralyzed from the waist down 93 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: after a accident back in twenty seventeen. So since then, 94 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: I've kind of sort of just been on like this 95 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: really crazy journey where I sort of fell into social 96 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: media influencing, literally fell into it. And yeah, I have 97 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: then sort of like grown my platform, started to work 98 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: with different brands, and then started to use that platform 99 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: to talk about disability. Yeah, amazing, clear snapshot of me. 100 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I would definitely say sorry. And I guys, 101 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 3: if you don't already follow, so if makes you do 102 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 3: because her content is honestly incredible and I will make 103 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 3: sure you know I link everything in the show notes, 104 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: but it really really is. But so I wanted to 105 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 3: chat to you about living with a disability and confidence 106 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 3: because honestly, the way that you show up, you can 107 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 3: just see that you have really come into yourself. You 108 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 3: can see how empower empowering that is also for other 109 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: people to see and know that they can get to 110 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: that place. And you're also just so unapologetic about who 111 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 3: you are and what you bring to the table. Which 112 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: is honestly just so inspiring to see and I know 113 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 3: my community would absolutely love that. So I wanted to 114 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 3: get into that first. So you did explain a little 115 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: bit about the accident that you had in twenty seventeen, 116 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 3: but can we just go into, yeah, a little bit 117 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: about what happened and what that was like for you 118 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 3: at the initial stages. 119 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, so back in we're talking back in twenty seventeen. 120 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: I was only twenty one then, so I mean just 121 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: coming up to twenty five now, so it feels like 122 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: a lifetime ago. So I was just twenty one. I 123 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: just finished university and I literally just got my union 124 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: results that day. So it basically had happened very simply, 125 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: and it always really shocks people what happened in the gym. 126 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: So I was squatting in a smith machine and I 127 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: didn't have my safety bars on high enough, so basically 128 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: when I basically lost my footing and then when I 129 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: fell the weight of the bar bell on me basically 130 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: broke my back, which then in turn punch of my spine. 131 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: And it was honestly, I think like now when I 132 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: tell it, obviously you can talk about it very calmly 133 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: and you can talk about it in retrospect, but at 134 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: the time it was very much a It is still 135 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: a life changing event, but it was just absolutely like 136 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: something kind of a movie. It was crazy, and it 137 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: was physically physically very very challenging. I mean, when the 138 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: accident happened itself, I very very nearly died, which I 139 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: think has had a massive impact on myself now and 140 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: the kind of the way that I go about life. 141 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: I didn't because that came out of nowhere and it 142 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: completely shocked me, and it nearly, you know, sort of 143 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: took my away from me, and it did take my 144 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: life away from me in a metaphorical sense. For a 145 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: very very long time after way injury, I really wasn't 146 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: very confident. I kind of didn't really have anywhere to live, 147 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: any will to live, storry to put it very bluntly, 148 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: and it kind of took me, it felt like a 149 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: lifetime anyway to build my life back up. And I 150 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: think that kind of really comes across in the way 151 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: I am now. I think one of the reasons why 152 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: I'm so unapologetic now is I think I've already wasted 153 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: so much time and I think going forward, I kind 154 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: of don't want to waste any more of that and 155 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: I kind of just want to take up everything that 156 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: life has to offer. 157 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, And so you kind of explain that, Yeah, 158 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 3: it was this life changing event that really really changed 159 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: your mindset. So can you kind of run us through 160 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 3: at the start when you know, you woke up in 161 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 3: hospital and you were explained what had happened and you 162 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 3: know what your future was going to be a lack? 163 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 3: Were you in a bit of a negative mindset at 164 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 3: the start? 165 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: That took a while to pull out? Like what was 166 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 2: the shift? 167 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's always really funny, I think when you 168 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: see it in movies, it always kind of seems so 169 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: very you have an accident, you have an operation, and 170 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: you wake up. But I mean, from my experience anyway, 171 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: it was absolutely nothing like that. And it's obviously different 172 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: for every single person who has an injury like mine. 173 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: But I didn't really come round to consciousness or for 174 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: maybe about a week and a. 175 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 4: Half, two weeks. 176 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: I mean I was physically awake the morning after my injury, 177 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: but you're on so much morphine, and you're on so 178 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: much and you're kind of in and out of it 179 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: for about a week and a half and I think 180 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: in that time, people are talking to you and they're 181 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: explainingything to you, but you don't take it in. It's 182 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: almost just a little bit like a fever dream. So 183 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 1: it's very very weird, like it's like, you know it's happening, 184 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: but it's not really happening. So I think in that time, 185 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: you don't really take anything in. So there was no mindset, 186 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: there was no thoughts, so there was just literally just 187 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: kind of in and out of sleep. And I think 188 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: at first when you kind of go into this almost 189 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: like survival mode, I think it's almost more like an instinct, 190 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: and you kind of your mind and your body kind 191 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: of just really come together and just kind of almost 192 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: build up this wall of like strength to get you 193 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: through everything you've got to get through. Because that's definitely 194 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: how I felt, especially like within because I had to. 195 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: It's a bit different that here. We're here because of 196 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: the NHS and the way it works. So I was 197 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: in one specialist hospital for two weeks, which is where 198 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: I had my surgery, and then I got moved to 199 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: another hospital which was closer to homes just to do 200 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: with the way the Burroughs fun the hospitals and stuff 201 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: and then I got moved on to another hospital about 202 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: six weeks after that because it was a spinal rehabilitation unit. 203 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: So especially when I was in that second hospital, it 204 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: was really really bad because by that point I was 205 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: fully awake, fully conscious, and very aware of what was 206 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: going on every day, and I couldn't leave my bed 207 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: in the hospittball bed and it was a very very 208 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 1: difficult time. But I think I just kind of had 209 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: this almost evolutionary mindset of you know, you just powerful, 210 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: it won't be like this in a year's time. You've 211 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: just got a power for it and get through it. 212 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: And then I think once you come out of that, 213 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: and that kind of wears off almost and the survival 214 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: instincts kind of leave you, you kind of sort of 215 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: left with this feeling of almost a bit like a 216 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: little bit deflated, I guess, because it's almost like, well, 217 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: where do you go from here? And that's definitely absolutely 218 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: what I felt in rehab. And then when I came 219 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: home for i'd say the first probably the first year, 220 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: I definitely didn't have a positive mindset. I was definitely 221 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: very just kind of just lost, I think is the 222 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: right word. 223 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 2: I can imagine. 224 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 3: And how long were you kind of in that lost 225 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 3: mindset and really in a place where, like you said, 226 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 3: you didn't in I guess like a bleak place. Like 227 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 3: how long did that last before you found yourself really 228 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 3: getting yourself out of it. 229 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: I think it would kind of sort of like come 230 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: and go. So I kind of had like would go 231 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: through maybe like a couple of days when maybe I'd 232 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: have like a good day, so I'd have a really 233 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: good day like physio and exercising, and then it would 234 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: kind of like come in dips and waves, And I 235 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: think when it comes like that, it kind of really 236 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: hits you very hard. But I think as well, I 237 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: know for me personally, my accident happened when I was 238 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: twenty one, but I'd still suffered with mental health problems 239 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: since I was thirteen, So that's kind of mood and 240 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: mental health has kind of always been something that has 241 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: always sort of been lingering in my life, and then 242 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: when it got to hear it was kind of really intensified. 243 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: So something I've always really struggled with. But I would 244 00:12:55,960 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: say it's kind of always, always, ever changing, and I 245 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: still kind of find myself now kind of going through 246 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: dips where I'm like kind of really have to pull 247 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: the strength and energy out of somewhere because I'm like, 248 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: Lord knows, I don't have it at the moment. Like 249 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: life is really testify and I think we all go 250 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: through like you know, like sort of dips and phases 251 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: like that, But I know it definitely still it still 252 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: hits me, so yeah, but I would say maybe for 253 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: about like a year and a half after I think 254 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: it was when it when we came into twenty nineteen, 255 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: things kind of really sort of started to pick up 256 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: with my career and kind of gave me a bit 257 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: of focus and a bit of purpose. I know that's 258 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: when I started to notice in myself that I was 259 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: feeling a lot better. And I didn't even notice it 260 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: at first. I just kind of I just had more purpose, 261 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: and I noticed that I wasn't spending so much time 262 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: focusing on other people's lives and spending so much time 263 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: focusing on negative things. I was just naturally a lot 264 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: more within myself and small things like you notice that 265 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: you're wearing more like for me, it comes out a 266 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 1: lot in my fashion that definitely you can tell if 267 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: I'm in a good mood, if I'm in like a 268 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: really happy place it comes out in my fashion and 269 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: what I'm doing and the music I'm listening to, and 270 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: I just noticed all of them things and I kind 271 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: of sort of started to notice that I was kind 272 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: of happy in my life again. 273 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, beautiful, And I love that you said that, you know, 274 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: even now you go through dips, and like, I think 275 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 3: we can all resonate with. 276 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: That with our mental health. 277 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: And something I'd liked for you to kind of comment 278 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: on is I know that you said obviously finding that purpose, 279 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 3: and I know you do chat a lot about you know, 280 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 3: finding the gym and really having that also helped you, 281 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 3: But what are some things that really helped with your 282 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 3: mindset and confidence to get to where you currently are. 283 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 284 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: So I think there's been a lot of things that 285 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: have kind of helped me to get to where I am. 286 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of been a mixture of learning 287 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: and learning. So when I say learning, I mean learning 288 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: things about myself and learning well, what do I actually like? 289 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: What things do I do, and kind of not relying 290 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: too heavily on things that I've kind of been taught 291 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: to like or things that I want, So kind of 292 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: like you know, growing up kind of looking at images 293 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: of people from mainstream media and things like that, because 294 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: I've always been quite like a curvy person, like it's 295 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: just in my genetics. Like, so I've always kind of 296 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: looked at very sort of like athletic build, supermodel build, 297 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: and kind of being like, that's the goal. So I 298 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: think kind of like learning more about what is that 299 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: even your goal? Do you even want that? And then 300 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: unlearning a lot of things as well like that. That's 301 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: definitely been a massive, massive, massive thing with coming to 302 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: terms with my disability and coming at peace with it. 303 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: Is unlearning a lot of things about disability that I 304 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: thought I knew before my injury, but what I realized 305 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: was just really uneducated. I was very, very uneducated, and 306 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: I unlearned a lot of that stuff. And it's kind 307 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: of really I think the perfect coming together of learning 308 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: new things and unlearning a lot of old things, a 309 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: lot of old habits, has kind of sort of brought 310 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: me to this place. 311 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 312 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: Wow, I absolutely love that answer, and I love what 313 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 3: you said about unlearning things, and I can definitely resonate 314 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 3: with that because it's almost like, you know, certain things 315 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 3: are ingrained and in built in us from society, Like 316 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: you know, beauty, standards and you know, certain I guess 317 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 3: things we have to meet and when you realize that 318 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 3: like there's actually no rules and you totally control, you know, 319 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 3: your own beauty standards and everything like that, it is 320 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: so empowering. 321 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's definitely definitely the kind of process that I 322 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: went through, and I think I kind of went through 323 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: a little bit after my injury, but I think massively 324 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: have been like the last year I think has kind 325 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: of been like a big turning point for me because 326 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think we're similar aga I'm 327 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: still very young. I'm twenty four to be twenty five, 328 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: and I think this is kind of really the to 329 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: quote Kylie Jenner, the age of realizing things. 330 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 4: And I think I always think. 331 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: You know, when I get to I always think, get 332 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: to a certain age, I think, oh, I know everything, 333 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: and then you know, the days go by, I think 334 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: I don't know everything. I'm still learning, and I think, 335 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: you know, I'm learning. Booty standards has definitely been one 336 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: of them things that when it as I'm going on, 337 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: I'm learning more and more things, and I just kind 338 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: of got to this point where I'm like, hang on, 339 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: what you mean that it's all rubbish and it's all 340 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: written by someone else who I don't even though, and 341 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: that it's all making someone else money, Well, that doesn't 342 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: sit right with me. 343 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 3: No, I'm laughing because when you said about the Kylie 344 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 3: Jenn I think it made me think of, you know, 345 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 3: that real where it's like, I think it must be 346 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: Kim Kardashian and she's like, you know, one day, it's 347 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 3: like I know everything, and then the next day I 348 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 3: know nothing. 349 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 2: I'm like, this is so true. Oh my god. 350 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 3: You think you know everything and then you're like, wait, 351 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 3: I know nothing and there's always. 352 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 2: More to learn. 353 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 4: That's definitely me. 354 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 3: Well, so if I want to kind of switch gears 355 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 3: a little bit and I and what you were saying 356 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 3: previously is also you've learned so much about disabilities too. 357 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 3: And I think something that I love about your account, 358 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 3: and I'm going to be completely honest, is I did 359 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 3: not know anything about, you know, people living with disabilities 360 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 3: and kind of didn't even think to, you know, learn 361 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 3: that sort of stuff. But since following you and also 362 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 3: I quite a number of other accounts obviously shedding light 363 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 3: on what it is like to live with a disability, 364 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 3: and I think it's really important so I wanted you 365 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 3: to chat to the rnc FAM today just about For example, 366 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 3: I know you had this really insightful post that went 367 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 3: live on International Wheelchair Day and I love what you 368 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 3: said and you really shed some light on some important parts. 369 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 3: So you spoke about how you know you aren't restricted 370 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 3: with your wheelchair. It allows you to move around independently. 371 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 3: It's society's lack of accessibility that restricts you. So firstly, 372 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 3: I love how you spoke about it, and I love 373 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 3: how it gives you independence. And I think that something 374 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 3: a lot of people fail to recognize is you can 375 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 3: you know, you can really switch your mindset and see 376 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 3: things in a different way. And so i'd love you 377 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,959 Speaker 3: to chat about how you know society can make it 378 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 3: more inclusive and accessible place for a person with a disability. 379 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah. 380 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: It is so funny because when you're reading that post, 381 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: it because I've made so many posts talking by it, 382 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this one doesn't ring a bell, 383 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: And then when you started reading it out, I was like, oh, yeah, 384 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: that one. 385 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 2: I thought I should read it. 386 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 4: Thank you. Yeah. 387 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, so when when we're talking about disability, I 388 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: mean there's there's two kinds of ways of looking at it. 389 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: And this is getting very into theory now it but 390 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: I'm a massive geek and I love theory and all 391 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: of that sort of stuff. But there's the medical model 392 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: and then there's the social model. So the medical model, 393 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: to put quite bluntly, is very to the point you have, 394 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: like obviously with me, I have like a physical injury. 395 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: Physically you're disabled, and then with the social model, it 396 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: would still you'd still be very much classes disabled. And 397 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: the disabled label is very important because it really helps 398 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,479 Speaker 1: people with their identity and you know, and coming at 399 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: peace with their disability. That's what I personally think. But 400 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: the social model puts more of an importance on society 401 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: and and kind of in terms of moving forward. And 402 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: the social model would say instead of you know, or 403 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: this person needs to get up out of their wheelchair 404 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: and walk, which has kind of been the mindset of 405 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: society for a very long time. I think when you 406 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: have an injury like mine, that the first response is to, oh, well, 407 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: you'll learned to walk again and then you can fit 408 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: into society. The social model would say, okay, so these 409 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: are the XYZ, the things that we need to do 410 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: to make this area inclusive because it is the area 411 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: that is that is not inclusive and that is not 412 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: fully accessible that is inhibiting you from participating. So you know, 413 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: it could be a full number of things. It could 414 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: be stairs, opting for a ramp, automatic doors, to sayble toilets. 415 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: But I think one thing that's really important to talk 416 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: about when we talk about accessibility is the people's mindsets 417 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 1: and people's attitudes towards disability. You could have the most 418 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: sort of physically accessible environment, but if the people there 419 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: and the attitude aren't very progressive, or they're not inclusive 420 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: of disabled people and the way they think about disabled people, 421 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: then it's not going to be a very accessible and 422 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: inclusive environment. And I always use the example of the 423 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: gym because I think a lot of disabled people would 424 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: know that the world of fitness is not very accessible 425 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: and not very inclusive to a lot of disabled people. 426 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: So you could have the most perfect gym in the world, 427 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: like physically it could be fairy accessible, it could have 428 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: loads of accessible machines, it could have loads of disabled 429 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: parking days. But if you get in there and the 430 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: people there are very able, list if they're not very catering, 431 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: if they're not very understanding of people disabilities, or if 432 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: they make you feel uncomfortable by constantly asking your load 433 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: of questions when you're trying to get on with your day, 434 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: and it just creates a very uncomfortable environment that then is. 435 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 4: Still not a very accessible or inclusive environment. 436 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: So I think when we're talking about accessibility, it kind 437 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: of has to go beyond looking at physical adjustments and 438 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: looking at you know, the way that we think about 439 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: disabled people and people with disabilities. 440 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 3: Yes, I absolutely love that you touch on that, and 441 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 3: that's something that you often talk about on your Instagram 442 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 3: and we know, like everyone who listens to this podcast 443 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 3: know how huge mindset is, so it is so important. Okay, 444 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,719 Speaker 3: r n C Fam, We're taking a quick break and 445 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 3: I want to ask you, guys, are you getting your 446 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 3: daily recommended intake of three fruits and five veggies? No? 447 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 3: Sometimes maybe I feel you on this. Wow. 448 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: So, in a perfect world, we. 449 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 3: Are getting all our vitamin minerals and needs from our 450 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 3: food directly. But because we live such hectic lives and 451 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 3: our soil is often lacking from so much farming done, 452 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 3: that doesn't always happen. 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Let's get back into the show. And so 487 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 3: if you could you know, if someone had never really 488 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 3: heard about the wide range of disabilities or even being 489 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 3: savvy to what we're talking about now, what would your 490 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 3: sort of advice for them to be? Sorry, what would 491 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 3: your advice to them be in regards ding to making 492 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 3: that mindset shift around disabilities. 493 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think when you first come to sort 494 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: of think about it, it's almost a little bit of 495 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: like a Eureka moment or a bit like you like 496 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: a light bulb on kind of moment, because you're kind 497 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: of sort of entering like a whole new world of 498 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 1: like information and looking at so many other people's lives. 499 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 1: And I'll be I'll be totally honest, you know, as 500 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: you were before and you said you didn't really know 501 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: anything about disability. I did not know if they're about 502 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: disability before my injury, And I'll be once, I was 503 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 1: very privileged in the sense of that I'd never had 504 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: to think about it. I didn't know anyone disabled, and 505 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: I wasn't disabled with myself, so I'd never had to 506 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: think about it, which I think now is probably still 507 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: there's many reasons why I talk about it now, but 508 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: it's probably one of the reasons why I talk about 509 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: it so much now because I kind of have that 510 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: experience of both sides of the coin. So I think 511 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: the first thing that I would say would be to 512 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: listen to disabled people. I think surrounding disability, I think 513 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: where a lot of crossfire and where a lot of 514 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: misimation and misinformation gets out is where there's a lot 515 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: of non disabled people talking for disabled people, which makes 516 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: it very frustrating because you'll spend your life advocating and 517 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: talking about one thing, and then because non disabled people 518 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: kind of get platformed a lot more or they kind of, 519 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: you know, shout louder than you, it kind of feels 520 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: like it undoes all your hard work and a lot 521 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: of what you said kind of gets talked over. So 522 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: I would say listen to disabled people, but also keep 523 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: in the back of your mind that with disability being 524 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: such a big umbrella and such a big community, everyone 525 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: has such different experiences within that community, and it intersects 526 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 1: with like a lot of other communities as well, So 527 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: we're talking like race, LGBTQ plus from different different sides 528 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: of the world. Everyone has different experiences with their disability, 529 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: so you might get that one disabled person tells you 530 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: one thing, and then another's is going to be like, well, 531 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: that's not my experience, and you know that's not necessarily 532 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: how I see things. So I think it really is 533 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: just about keeping an open mind and being very listening, 534 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: being willing to listen to like all disabled people and 535 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: not just hearing. So you could have two disabled people, 536 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: so you want two different things, and not just listening 537 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: to the answer that you think suits you best or 538 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,479 Speaker 1: that you prefer, just understanding that you know, both answers 539 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: are very valid, they just come from different experiences. And 540 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: I think we kind of have a jew eater, I 541 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: mean all of us, not just non save people, but 542 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: disabled people as well, to listen to other people's experiences 543 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: and why they think and why they feel that way. 544 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 3: I love that, And yeah, that's so true, like keeping 545 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 3: an open mind and realizing that everyone has different experiences. 546 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 3: And also one last thing I wanted to touch on 547 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 3: in regards to what you've chat about on your Instagram. 548 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 3: You have this really beautiful post and I'll kind of 549 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 3: quote you so you know what I'm talking about. So 550 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 3: you kind of explained that you had this huge realization 551 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 3: that you don't need to walk again to kick goals 552 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 3: because you can kick goals right now. And I absolutely 553 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 3: love this mindset and this is something that and the 554 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 3: reason why I wanted to get you on the pot 555 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,719 Speaker 3: is just because you have seen that. You know, like 556 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 3: you said this, you know what happened was such a shock, 557 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 3: such a surprise and you have really kind of yeah, 558 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 3: like turned it into this situation where you are empowering 559 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 3: other people, you were educating other people, and you were 560 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 3: going after what you want and you can, like I said, 561 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 3: really see you stepping into your power. So can you 562 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 3: kind of tell us about this realization and why it's 563 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 3: important for you to not wait to you know, achieve 564 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 3: your goals and do them now. 565 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 566 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely, this has been like a massive, massive thing that 567 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: has kind of I think I think the idea of 568 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: sort of like waiting to walk again, or the goal 569 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: of like going you know, of walking again, I kind 570 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: of really sort of plagued my life for a very 571 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: long time. I mean I say a very long time. 572 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: It's not a long time. It just feels like a 573 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: long time when you're living the life, but maybe like 574 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: a couple of years. And I think I think that's 575 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: because I mean maybe because of my internalized ableism and 576 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: the things that I'd thought about disability. The way that 577 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: I saw it was you could only my idea of 578 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: a successful life would be to go to physio start 579 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: walking again and then kind of be like this almost 580 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: like very sickly inspiration success story, which now which is 581 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: the idea of It makes me feel sick being used 582 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: that way, but that's how I thought it at the time, 583 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: because I think a big thing is that's kind of 584 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: all I saw of success after disability was we look 585 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: at movies or we look at new stories. It's a 586 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: massive thing where someone's overcome their disability by detaching from it, 587 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: and I think that's kind of how I saw it, 588 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: and that's kind of the only option that I saw. 589 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 4: But I think one. 590 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: Of the things that I really realized was the more 591 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: that I was kind of letting go of that pressure 592 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: to fulfill that goal, the more that I was actually 593 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: kind of really just enjoying my life and really enjoying 594 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: the process and not just constantly every day every thinking well, no, 595 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: I need to be here, I'm not here, Because then 596 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: it made everything that I was doing, because it wasn't 597 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: that goal, everything that I was doing just felt so 598 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: insignificant and I was doing, you know, so many amazing things, 599 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: and I was really getting my life together and kind 600 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: of really even though you know, recovery is such a 601 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: big big word when it comes to an injury like this, 602 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: because your life changes completely, So recovery doesn't just mean 603 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: walking again, which I think a lot of people think 604 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: it does. So what I hadn't realized is I centered 605 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: my recovery around that goal, and I was kind of 606 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: not realizing how many other goals that I was hitting 607 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: and how many other goals I was smashing in terms 608 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: of just becoming me again and getting over this trauma 609 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: and moving on from it. So I think once i'd 610 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: kind of sort of started to detach on that goal 611 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: and then kind of also really grieve it as well 612 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: and allowing myself to move on from it, I think 613 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: that's when I started to really make big strides with 614 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: well within myself but alfo within my career on social 615 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: media and everything else that I do, because I actually 616 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: allowed myself to focus on other things. 617 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 618 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 2: Wow, that is so powerful. 619 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 3: And I think it's also like it's such a kind 620 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 3: of reminder that sometimes we have goals and they're very 621 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 3: much either kind of you know, put to us because 622 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 3: that's what we think, you know, we have to do 623 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 3: within society to feel recognized or you know, to get 624 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 3: to a certain point. Like I remember, the whole reason 625 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,959 Speaker 3: why I studied law and did law for six years 626 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 3: was because I kind of thought I had to not 627 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 3: necessarily because I wanted it to be my goal. 628 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 2: And when I really kind of. 629 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 3: Reprioritized things and really kind of looked within rather than 630 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 3: just what I should do, was such like a huge 631 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 3: moment for me and obviously very different for you. But yeah, 632 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 3: I absolutely love that you had that realization. 633 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 634 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: I think it's as you say, it's like a big 635 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,919 Speaker 1: realization of what do you actually want? Because I think 636 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: when I was thinking about, well, what do you want, 637 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 1: and I was thinking, I was like, well, I want 638 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: to have, you know, a career. I want to be 639 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 1: in fitness. I want to be able to impact people, 640 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: you know. I'd love to be able to see my 641 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: friends more. I'd love to be you know, all of 642 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: these things. And I was thinking, well, why aren't you 643 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: doing them things already? 644 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 3: You know? 645 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: And I kind of had this moment where I was like, 646 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,720 Speaker 1: you know, and you have them really hard talks to yourself, 647 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: and I'm like, so for you idiot to recal So 648 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: I was like, you can do all them things already, 649 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: and you could have been doing those things already, but 650 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: your mind was so focused on this one thing that 651 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: you know. And I think that the way that I 652 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: see is it's very much a process, and I kind 653 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: of don't blame myself because it was very much ingrained 654 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 1: into of what that goal should be, and I think 655 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: that's only natural. But I'm very very glad that I 656 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: came to the point where I was like, well, all 657 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: the things that I truly want at heart, I don't 658 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: have to be walking to do. I can still do 659 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: all of them. And it definitely makes life a lot 660 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: more difficult, but it's you know, it's just a way 661 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 1: of living, and it's just you know, overcoming that. 662 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 3: One hundred percent. And yeah, that's just so beautiful to hear. 663 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 3: And so Sophie, I know we were kind of just 664 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 3: talking about, you know, not having those grand goals, but 665 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 3: I'd love to know what are you focusing on this year? 666 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 3: What are the bold moves and bold actions that you 667 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 3: were taking for twenty twenty one. 668 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really fun that we just said, like a 669 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: big goal, But I actually I love God, I do 670 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: love goals. Yeah that's something that's no. I do love 671 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: goal thing, and I think it's very very important. I 672 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: think like the where my mindset change is kind of 673 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: not resting my whole self worth and my whole kind 674 00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: of like life dependency on my goals, but my goals 675 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: for the rest of the year really continuing on. I 676 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: kind of had a moment yesterday where I felt a 677 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: little bit sick because I realized that next month will 678 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: be halfway through the year, and that just very unsettled 679 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: my stomach because in the UK we've been in lockdown 680 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 1: for this whole year again. But yeah, so I think 681 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 1: my goal is really for the rest of the years, 682 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: I really want to carry on with the disability you know, 683 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: advocating work that I'm doing. I think I really kind 684 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: of came into my power with it last year, and 685 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: that really came as a result of the lockdown, because 686 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,720 Speaker 1: I think where I was at home and we're in lockdown, 687 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: and then I had to think about the content that 688 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: I was making a lot more rather than just the 689 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: things that I'd been so used to making and doing. 690 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: So I kind of had a really good think of, 691 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: you know, well, now might be a good time to 692 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: sort of do things that you've maybe wanted to do 693 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: before but not really given much thought of how to 694 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: do them. And that's kind of really a lot where 695 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: my educational content sort of came from that kind of 696 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: experimenting and locko, which I think everyone has done to 697 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: some degree, So I kind of want to take that 698 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,720 Speaker 1: a lot a lot further, especially now where we're venturing 699 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 1: out into the outside world a lot more and kind 700 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: of taking that a little bit further and kind of 701 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: just really just I guess, helping people to learn, but 702 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 1: also helping empowering disabled people each week. And I think 703 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 1: it kind of looks very very different. Is because sometimes 704 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 1: I'll do things and I'll say things I don't realize 705 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: they're empowering, but I think it's just because a lot 706 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: of the time for people just really need to hear, 707 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: so I guess like from another disabled person. So I 708 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 1: think that's kind of really a lot of my goals 709 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,919 Speaker 1: this year is to really you know, bring that into 710 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: the outside world, but also to really bring it in 711 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: more into the fitness space, because I think for a 712 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: very long time, the fitness space is kind of it's 713 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: been very challenging for I know for me as a 714 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: disabled person, because you always think of disabled fitness has 715 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: been very separate because we have the Paralympics. You think, well, 716 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: we have the Paralympics, and then you have fitness for 717 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: non disabled people. So I think now I'm kind of 718 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: talking more about fitness and kind of seeing that merge 719 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: of you know, disabled people should be very much included 720 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: in mainstream fitness and there should be a place for 721 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: disabled people here and just looking at the ways that 722 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: we can make that happen. 723 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 3: Yes, Wow, I'm so excited for you and we love 724 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 3: to see it. That's just that's such an incredible goal. 725 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,879 Speaker 3: Can you tell the R and C Fair where they 726 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 3: can find you? Say they can soak up all this 727 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 3: incredible content and just be around you, because I know 728 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 3: they're going to love it. 729 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you want to come hang out with me, 730 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: I feel like we got a little bit of a disclaimer. 731 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: You make a new friend and it's like, how long 732 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: can it be before I'm weird around you? 733 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? 734 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: So you can find me on Instagrams. I think I'm 735 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: so so j Butler. 736 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 737 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: It does, and I do a lot of educational but 738 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: we also have a lot of fun. It gets a 739 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: bit sassy and the bit. Yeah, we just have a 740 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: lot of weird and wonderful fun over there. I'd be 741 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: very you know, if you want to come and join 742 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: me on that. I'm also on TikTok as well, which 743 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,439 Speaker 1: TikTok is so fun. That's another thing that I've really 744 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 1: got into in Lockdown. I thought it was just for 745 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: like children and like kids and teenagers, and I got 746 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: into it in Lockdown. I was like, oh my god, 747 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: the kids are having so much fun on here. 748 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 2: TikTok is so fun. Yeah. 749 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 3: I totally agree with that one, and thank you so much. 750 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 3: So if it has been a pleasure to have you 751 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 3: on the show and to hear about everything you're doing. 752 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 3: It's really really incredible and inspiring, and I really appreciate 753 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 3: your time. 754 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you for having me. It's so lovely to 755 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 4: chat to you. 756 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 3: Thank you for listening for another R and C episode. 757 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 3: I really appreciate taking the time to be here with me, 758 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 3: and also for taking the time for yourself. 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