WEBVTT - I'M A CELEB: Britt & Michelle Bridges chat perimenopause🌿

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<v Speaker 1>How old were you when you started perimedophorse.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest, I'm not one hundred percent sure. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I was probably I want to say fifty, but

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<v Speaker 2>it just seems too late. But I it was about

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<v Speaker 2>then that I started getting really sporadic periods.

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<v Speaker 1>So what were like, you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting sporadic periods until then.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're in your day to day life, do you notice.

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<v Speaker 3>The symptoms that something in your body's changing or like,

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<v Speaker 3>what did you think was happening?

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<v Speaker 1>What did you feel?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that was the first sign of it was that

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<v Speaker 2>was my periods were late, and they were then they weren't.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they were you know, early, Then they were heavy,

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<v Speaker 2>then they were they were actually never light, they were

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<v Speaker 2>very heavy because I've always had light periods.

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<v Speaker 1>But that always your periods always.

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<v Speaker 2>Been really light and pretty regular. Yeah, so yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>was although they were suddenly really heavy, so I thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is probably the start of it. But to be

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<v Speaker 2>honest with you, that really wasn't happening. And when I

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<v Speaker 2>look back, low was about fifty, So I'm a late bluemer.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think maybe that has anything to do with

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<v Speaker 3>your gulf and strengthen your regular hormones?

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<v Speaker 1>And things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it could have that part of that. There's

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<v Speaker 2>certainly absolute research to say that women who are moderate

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<v Speaker 2>to high activities will have potentially have lesser symptoms, and

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<v Speaker 2>women who are lower activities potentially will have more higher symptoms.

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<v Speaker 1>Will you getting anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>At that point?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>At that point, no. But then I started getting really

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<v Speaker 2>hot in bed and I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't regulate my temperature. And then I was awake

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<v Speaker 2>a lot at night because of that. Then I was

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<v Speaker 2>just awake a lot at night because of no other

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<v Speaker 2>reason other than just waking up and couldn't get back

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<v Speaker 2>to sleep. And I just really didn't think about menopause

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<v Speaker 2>that much because it just wasn't really top of mind, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>which I find und astounding, Like I don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't collate all of that and go, oh, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is clearly I'm in menopause.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's cause you feel young still?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, not that you're not young, but do you think

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<v Speaker 3>because I wake up every day I'm maybe thirties, I

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<v Speaker 3>still feel twenty. Do you think it's because you feel like, sure,

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<v Speaker 3>you're not at that point.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, there might have been a bit of that, you know. Certainly,

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<v Speaker 2>when the periods were going all over the place, I thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this could be the start of the perimenopause. But then

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of just let it go. But then I

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<v Speaker 2>was thinking, oh, I'm not sleeping well. I had a

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<v Speaker 2>lot going on in my private life, so I thought

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that's part of it. Stress, just a bit of stress,

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<v Speaker 2>and just wasn't feeling great within myself. I noticed that

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<v Speaker 2>i'd i'd had a wait, a change in my weight

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<v Speaker 2>and a change in my weight distribution.

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of you put weight on or you'll lose weight.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd put it on and you no reason like feel

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<v Speaker 3>like you're anymore or no.

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<v Speaker 2>But maybe I was, you know, like I look back

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<v Speaker 2>on it all now, and you know, there definitely was

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of a lifestyle change. Wasn't training as much

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<v Speaker 2>as I usually would because I wasn't sleeping well, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just didn't feel like I was a bit flat. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And so I went to my doctor about it instead

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<v Speaker 2>of said, oh, you know, not feeling myself, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>feeling motivated, which is really unlike me.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you feel like feels like when you say flat,

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<v Speaker 3>did you feel like it was like a bit of depression. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you were worried that you might have depression.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did. Never thought I was depressed, but I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't feel my normal self. Yeah, and I just couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>quite figure out why, other than the fact that I

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<v Speaker 2>had stuff going on personally that was challenging. So I

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<v Speaker 2>spoke to her about that. We did all I want

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<v Speaker 2>to do a full test of all my bloods hormones,

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<v Speaker 2>and what came back from that was that I suddenly

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<v Speaker 2>had had had high cholesterol, which was like what you've

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<v Speaker 2>never had, never, but my good cholesterol was superior, like

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<v Speaker 2>superiodically high. It was crazy. She said, what why would

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<v Speaker 2>that be? And I said, well, I can only put

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<v Speaker 2>it down. Do I eat a lot of amigasrees and

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<v Speaker 2>lots of sardines and macrawlin like on the on the

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<v Speaker 2>rig three or four times a week. So she's she

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't too concerned about my cholesterol. She said, look, because

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<v Speaker 2>your good cholesterol is so high, I'm not worried about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, okay, But she said, another strange thing that's

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<v Speaker 2>come back is that your vitamin D deficient. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>probably just because of where we live in the Southern Highlands.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not getting outside as much. So just try to

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<v Speaker 2>get out in the sun. And I was like, that's bizarre. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so I started taking a supplement for that. Done really odd.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but then thought, okay, maybe that's why I have

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<v Speaker 3>no energy.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm just efficient.

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<v Speaker 2>And then so she prescribed me a new depressants.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>So she didn't even click that it could be perimenopause either.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't discuss it.

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<v Speaker 1>Straight to antidepressants, which.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't date, you didn't take I didn't want to.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting that that is the go to and concerning that,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the go.

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<v Speaker 2>To now that I've done all my research, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>relatively common thing to happen women of your age. Yeah, things,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, she's emotional, so does very common.

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<v Speaker 3>Is so depression is a normal part of perimenopause and menopause.

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<v Speaker 2>It can be yeah, because we've got estrogen receptors in

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<v Speaker 2>our brain, so it can change your mood and change

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<v Speaker 2>your you know, levels of anxiety. But it's just interesting

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<v Speaker 2>that you kind of get put into the bucket of

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<v Speaker 2>middle aged woman depression, highly emotional. Yeah, And like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a common thing to occur and just never the

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<v Speaker 2>discussion around. Let's talk about menopause or let's talk about perimenopause.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just think that there's a lot of well,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that there's a lot of mis information out

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<v Speaker 2>there about it, not a lot of discussion about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think when there was the big blow up

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<v Speaker 2>of hormone replacement therapy or menopause replacement therapy in two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and two two thousand and four, that it has

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<v Speaker 2>potential to cause breast cancer, everyone just put the brakes

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<v Speaker 2>on and just said, we're not using it fair enough.

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<v Speaker 3>So have you been managed have you managed to manage

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<v Speaker 3>your symptoms without antidepressants and medication or have your symptoms

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<v Speaker 3>changed at all?

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<v Speaker 1>Or are they the same?

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<v Speaker 2>So I decided I didn't want to do the antidepressants.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, no, I'm not, I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>It just didn't feel right, didn't sit well with me

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm not I didn't think I was depressed, but

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<v Speaker 2>I knew that I was flat.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but there's also a difference between flat and depression,

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<v Speaker 3>like a down day or down time, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a lull.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just have I guess I got to a

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<v Speaker 2>place where I was living at the time where I

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<v Speaker 2>decided I want to move back to Sydney, and I

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<v Speaker 2>knew that was the best thing for me to sort

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<v Speaker 2>of pull me out of what I felt was a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a funk. I just couldn't get into my

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<v Speaker 2>groove where I was. Came back to Sydney and I thought, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get on top of all of this,

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<v Speaker 2>And menopause was kicking around in the back of my mind,

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<v Speaker 2>around potentially doing a program for it. But I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to get on top of what was going on for me,

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<v Speaker 2>so I went to a doctor here in Sydney. Over

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<v Speaker 2>there in Sydney and I discussed it all again. So

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<v Speaker 2>we went through the whole process again and again the

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<v Speaker 2>same things came up about the higher cholesterol and the

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<v Speaker 2>vitamin D deficiency. And then when I started doing research

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<v Speaker 2>for the menopause method, what came out of the States,

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<v Speaker 2>what information I was getting from America was that this

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<v Speaker 2>was a common trait amongst menopause or women, that they

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<v Speaker 2>were vitamin D deficient, not not like mildly borderline, but

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<v Speaker 2>deficient and their cholesterol had like shot up for no reason,

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<v Speaker 2>like no changes to their to their diet. So it

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<v Speaker 2>was becoming very clear that this is a correlation direct

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<v Speaker 2>correlation to perimenopause, and I was like, okay, this is

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<v Speaker 2>all starting to fall into place. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Also better to I imagine, it's better to actually just

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<v Speaker 3>have an answer so you can deal with it rather

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<v Speaker 3>than what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's why it's so important to get with a specialist,

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<v Speaker 2>a GP but who specializes in menopause, so that you

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<v Speaker 2>know they've got the information that they consider go yes,

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<v Speaker 2>well this this directly ticks that box, and directly ticks

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<v Speaker 2>that box. It's very different for every woman, Like every

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<v Speaker 2>woman's going to have a different symptom and a different

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<v Speaker 2>severity of that symptom.

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<v Speaker 1>And how long were you've been in periman pause for.

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<v Speaker 2>So in like I said, I think it came. It

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<v Speaker 2>kicked in maybe around forty nine to fifty. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the general rule of thumb is that once you have

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<v Speaker 2>no longer had a period for twelve months, then you

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<v Speaker 2>have moved or transitioned from perimenopause into menopause. So I

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<v Speaker 2>had my last period Easter last year and then figured

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<v Speaker 2>coming into this fig coming into here, I was like, oh, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm there. And then literally within three days of being

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<v Speaker 2>in camp, I got a period. So you got two

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<v Speaker 2>weeks shy of a year which I never had.

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<v Speaker 3>No period for eleven months, came to the eleven and

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<v Speaker 3>a half months came so two weeks shy officially menopause,

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<v Speaker 3>and came yes, which is just.

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<v Speaker 1>The one day I didn't even think that was viron man.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if it's a new stress on your body

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<v Speaker 3>that you didn't even know.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to talk to my specialist about it

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<v Speaker 2>because I know that, Oh, I don't know what she's

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<v Speaker 2>going to say. She might go, oh, yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 2>have a feeling she's going to go wow.

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<v Speaker 3>And a bunch of I've always wondered if this was

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<v Speaker 3>real or not. I've always wondered, you know, when women

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<v Speaker 3>are like, oh, we're in sync, Like if your sister's

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<v Speaker 3>getting a period, you get you.

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<v Speaker 1>All your friends. I've always thought that that was like

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<v Speaker 1>a myth.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, it's not like three women. Yeah, there was

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<v Speaker 2>three ladies in you that had their period and then

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly I got my I don't know whether that's part

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<v Speaker 2>of it. I'm dead interested to find out. That's fascinating,

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<v Speaker 2>because I did find that really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, So what happens during perimenopause is that your estrogen,

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<v Speaker 2>your progesterone basically start to fall off a cliff and

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<v Speaker 2>these are all the things that keep your you in rhythm.

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<v Speaker 2>There you kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of blueprint, and so you have to replace those if.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to go down that option, to explore that,

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<v Speaker 2>whether that's an option for you, you can. And so that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I explored with mine specialist, and we went through

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<v Speaker 2>all my history, my family history, and I took the

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<v Speaker 2>option to have an estrogen patch and a progesterone tablet

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<v Speaker 2>at night because I don't. I'll be straight with you, Britt,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I never really have bad symptoms, like not

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<v Speaker 2>like some ladies get. And I think due to the

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<v Speaker 2>research that I've done that's possibly now in my mind,

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<v Speaker 2>due to the fact that I have had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of activity in my life for all my life, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>your whole life. So that sort of stood me in goodstead.

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<v Speaker 3>And then what do you notice once you started using

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<v Speaker 3>the patch and taking the tablet that you're symptoms subsided?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but it's taken probably three months of being on

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<v Speaker 2>it regularly now, which is unreal. It's a lot. But

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<v Speaker 2>as I was talking to you about estrogen receptors, they're

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<v Speaker 2>in every part of your body, every organ of your body,

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<v Speaker 2>from skin to intestines to brain, like everywhere, which is

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<v Speaker 2>why I was keen if I could to take the

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<v Speaker 2>estrogen and progesterone, because I thought, if I can, and

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<v Speaker 2>I've got no potential history of issues, why wouldn't I,

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<v Speaker 2>You know, why wouldn't I? But I think, and I think,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going back to all of the different organs in

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<v Speaker 2>your body that have estrogen receptors. That's why we get

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<v Speaker 2>so many crazy, whacked out symptoms from all the usual

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<v Speaker 2>culprits of hot flushes and night sweats and sleep disturbances

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<v Speaker 2>and weight distribution around your midline. They're the ones you

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<v Speaker 2>hear about a lot, but they're the ones that you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know about even are the ones such as high

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<v Speaker 2>cholesterol if you haven't had it tested, which can get dangerous.

0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Even having more weight around your middle can get dangerous

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<v Speaker 2>for vital organs around your vital organs. And then bone

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<v Speaker 2>density is one that's a mad one. Yeah, like osteoporosis

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<v Speaker 2>or even it's like really opens you up to potential

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<v Speaker 2>injuries in your future, which can be life threatening. Note

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<v Speaker 2>not just stopping you from having independence. They can actually

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<v Speaker 2>be life threatening.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and every single woman is going to go through it,

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<v Speaker 3>which is crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's not really spoken about that much. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Still spoken about because of shame taboo?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, That's what I wanted to ask you about about

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<v Speaker 3>the feeling of shame, because I think many women and

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<v Speaker 3>women I've spoken to in the past have felt almost embarrassed, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>that they're at that stage of life, because that stage

0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:02.400
<v Speaker 3>of life is associated with a new chapter, and a

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<v Speaker 3>new chapter is associated with getting older and that your

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<v Speaker 3>prime is over.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you feel any of that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we know that that's not true, but so

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<v Speaker 3>many women, once they start having children and getting older,

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<v Speaker 3>they feel like no one sees them anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like they feel invisible. Did you feel like that,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's such.

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<v Speaker 3>A horrible thing for women to feel, and I understand

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<v Speaker 3>why people feel it every year you get older, even

0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.440
<v Speaker 3>I feel in my mid thirties, you know, which is crazy,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a societal pressure it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you feel like there was any shame attached to

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<v Speaker 3>or did you feel a bit like wow, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>my next chapter.

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<v Speaker 2>I just kind of thought, well, this is that crossroads

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm so freaking not on my watch gon to

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<v Speaker 2>be feeling like I've just been shelved. Yeah, like I've

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<v Speaker 2>got way too much to offer. Well yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I've got I've got so much. I've learned so

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<v Speaker 2>much to be able to pass on.

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<v Speaker 1>And were still fitter than everyone in here.

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<v Speaker 2>You are, what's the alternative? Like you're dead?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Can you understand why people feel bad?

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred? And I work with a lot of women,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of women in this age category who do

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<v Speaker 2>feel that way, And what happens is, I guess it's

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<v Speaker 2>just a human nature trait is there's a tendency to

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<v Speaker 2>wave the white flag and go all this is just

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<v Speaker 2>where it's at life. And I want to buck that system.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to take menopause and reframe the way we

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<v Speaker 2>think about it, because I think it's been given.

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<v Speaker 3>A bad rat it has one hundred and I think

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<v Speaker 3>even are scared of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Scared of it physic yeah like, And I'm not taking

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<v Speaker 2>it away from ladies symptoms. I know that they can

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<v Speaker 2>be really severe, but I think everything gets nailed on it.

0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:06.520
<v Speaker 2>And I say that because I've now worked with women

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<v Speaker 2>in this category and gone through in a holistic way

0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.200
<v Speaker 2>that they've gone to their GP. They've gone and had

0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:21.359
<v Speaker 2>those conversations, They've looked at their options around whether they

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<v Speaker 2>want to go down the hormone replacement therapy or not.

0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:27.520
<v Speaker 2>I've then holistically looked at other things like their lifestyle

0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:31.040
<v Speaker 2>and their lifestyle choices that they're currently making, and whether

0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:33.560
<v Speaker 2>or not they've kind of let their guidelines and parameters

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<v Speaker 2>just slip a little bit on how they take care

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<v Speaker 2>of themselves, which is easy to do when you've got kids,

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<v Speaker 2>older children, older parents, work.

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<v Speaker 1>The husband that.

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<v Speaker 2>Then looked at their nutrition, then looked at their exercise,

0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.159
<v Speaker 2>what they're doing, what they're not doing, or how can

0:17:57.200 --> 0:18:03.840
<v Speaker 2>we change it a real holistic way, and they're sleep,

0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.800
<v Speaker 2>how they handle their hot flushes if that's what they're having,

0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:13.560
<v Speaker 2>just how they're managing the whole the scope. And I've

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<v Speaker 2>had incredible results firsthand. I've seen it. I've witnessed it.

0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:21.800
<v Speaker 2>I've witnessed it with myself, but I've witnessed it in

0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:24.919
<v Speaker 2>my colleagues. One of my ladies that's been working for

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<v Speaker 2>me within twelve WBT for over ten years, we did

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<v Speaker 2>it with her boom great results. I've now seen it

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<v Speaker 2>on the program, so I think it's great for ladies

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<v Speaker 2>to see that there's still so much potential.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's also something that none of us, literally none

0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:48.320
<v Speaker 3>of us can avoid it, like we are every woman.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are lucky enough to make it to that.

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<v Speaker 2>S if you're lucky enough, if you are lucky enough.

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<v Speaker 3>To get there, it's a right, it's a privilege.

0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:57.439
<v Speaker 1>It's a privilege.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think you're a prime example of a trying

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<v Speaker 3>to take the shame away from it because you're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about it so openly, which is amazing.

0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:09.080
<v Speaker 1>And b it doesn't have to slow you down. Look

0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:12.679
<v Speaker 1>at you find fit in the jungle. Yeah, like fitter

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<v Speaker 1>than anyone else in here.

0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:18.600
<v Speaker 2>So it's I just wanted to like change the lens

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<v Speaker 2>on this time in your life. Yeah, and take it.

0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:26.959
<v Speaker 2>Let's just look at it differently from just a minute, think, okay,

0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:29.800
<v Speaker 2>what about if we put it presented it like, this

0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:33.159
<v Speaker 2>is a crossroads that you're at. This is really a

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<v Speaker 2>great opportunity for you and most women at this age.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I'm a little bit different because I've got

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<v Speaker 2>a younger son. I started a bit late, but most

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<v Speaker 2>ladies have their kids pretty much grown up sixteen and above.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, how have you found that that's a that's another thing.

0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:52.960
<v Speaker 3>You've got an eight year old, do it change. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the way you're able to be there for him when

0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:57.480
<v Speaker 3>you started feeling those symptoms in terms of, you know,

0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:58.920
<v Speaker 3>because you're a single mother as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was definitely in the back of my mind,

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<v Speaker 2>is that I've got this young son who I want

0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:08.479
<v Speaker 2>to be there for in a vibrant, energetic way. So

0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:12.399
<v Speaker 2>that certainly was a incentive for me to sort of

0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:15.040
<v Speaker 2>get on top of it and understand exactly what's going on.

0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:19.320
<v Speaker 2>But just with regards to to you know, ladies in

0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:25.359
<v Speaker 2>this crossroads or at this crossroads, they've got an opportunity

0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:29.439
<v Speaker 2>to kind of like do a full CEO of their life.

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<v Speaker 2>Many women are, because of menopause, are being taken out

0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:36.879
<v Speaker 2>of the taking themselves out of the workforce. Many women

0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:40.120
<v Speaker 2>because of this are taking themselves out of education. We're

0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:48.520
<v Speaker 2>losing these incredibly talented skill women because of this. And

0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:52.560
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't necessarily have to be that way, you know,

0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:54.960
<v Speaker 2>getting down to being the CEO of your own life.

0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:56.920
<v Speaker 2>What's going on. No one's going to do it for you.

0:20:57.000 --> 0:20:58.480
<v Speaker 2>You're going to be the one that has to do

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<v Speaker 2>it for yourself. But again, going back to that holistic approach.

0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:11.280
<v Speaker 2>This is it's an opportunity. Yeah, it's an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean even just the conversation we have the

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<v Speaker 3>other day where you were saying, you know, you feel

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<v Speaker 3>ready to maybe go back in the dating world and

0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:20.359
<v Speaker 3>get back into that world.

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<v Speaker 2>It is.

0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's a prime example of not changing anything, or

0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:28.159
<v Speaker 3>you're not letting it change anything. You're not letting it

0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:30.119
<v Speaker 3>slow you down, You're not letting it What.

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<v Speaker 2>This thing is like when you get to this age too,

0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:35.240
<v Speaker 2>there's a few Like one of the things is you

0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:37.760
<v Speaker 2>just don't give a shit as much like you. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard women in interviews when I was in my thirties,

0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:44.600
<v Speaker 2>I was your age. I'd hear women my age being

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<v Speaker 2>interviewed and they would say stuff like they just really

0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:50.160
<v Speaker 2>don't care what other people think. I mean, obviously they care,

0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:52.280
<v Speaker 2>but they don't care about what others think. And I

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<v Speaker 2>would listen to that and go.

0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:58.919
<v Speaker 3>Really, oh, yeah, so wonderful when actually true.

0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:01.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you. The other thing is you've got so

0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:04.240
<v Speaker 2>much more wisdom. You've been around the block, you've had

0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:08.159
<v Speaker 2>your heart broken a hundred times, You've you've learned the

0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:12.280
<v Speaker 2>l many many, many lessons you've you've got maybe you've

0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:15.160
<v Speaker 2>got some regrets, maybe you've got some things that you'd

0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:19.320
<v Speaker 2>like to change. Like you you've lived alive. So with

0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:24.480
<v Speaker 2>all of that in your back pocket, how cool would

0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:27.240
<v Speaker 2>it be to be a woman with that much maturity

0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:31.560
<v Speaker 2>and still have your as best health as you possibly

0:22:31.560 --> 0:22:33.199
<v Speaker 2>can and some of your best years still and some

0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:36.960
<v Speaker 2>of your best years to come. Yeah, that's why I

0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:41.679
<v Speaker 2>find it really freaking exciting, Like it's sort of moving

0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:45.080
<v Speaker 2>out of ego. M those all those chapters where ego

0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:47.359
<v Speaker 2>is a big driver in your twenties and thirties and

0:22:47.880 --> 0:22:51.439
<v Speaker 2>maybe even a little in your forties when you're the hustle, hustle, hustle, hustle, hustle,

0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:55.760
<v Speaker 2>which is what we do. But into this next kind

0:22:55.760 --> 0:23:02.280
<v Speaker 2>of chapter of it's more about internal. It's less about

0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:06.639
<v Speaker 2>external and ego, but more about who you are as

0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:11.320
<v Speaker 2>a person and how you can grow. Yeah, I find

0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:12.560
<v Speaker 2>it very exciting.

0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Europe to Yeah, I think a lot of women will

0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:16.920
<v Speaker 3>take a lot from seeing you in here and talking

0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:19.560
<v Speaker 3>about it so openly, because people really aren't.

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<v Speaker 1>So hats off to you. Thanks, yeah, thanks for sharing.

0:23:24.440 --> 0:23:27.679
<v Speaker 2>That's but I had had a chance to talk to

0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:32.120
<v Speaker 2>my thirty something year old self, I would say keep

0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:37.439
<v Speaker 2>up your weight training, yeah, because that will future proof

0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:41.920
<v Speaker 2>you keep your muscle and strengthen your bones. Yeah, that's

0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:44.040
<v Speaker 2>like if the foundation.

0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:47.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man, I've been trying to convince my mum to

0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:52.120
<v Speaker 3>do weight training for so like she's in menopause, but she's.

0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:54.119
<v Speaker 1>Like this cute little stick figure.

0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:56.240
<v Speaker 3>She's always been so small, but she's never had to

0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:56.880
<v Speaker 3>work for it.

0:23:57.400 --> 0:23:58.520
<v Speaker 1>She's never done weights.

0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:02.199
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, she's its sixty four, and I'm like,

0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:04.240
<v Speaker 3>you really need to start. It's not too She's like,

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:08.240
<v Speaker 3>that's too late, Like it's not pick up some hand weights.

0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:13.320
<v Speaker 2>And even those those physiques that have always remained slender,

0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:19.880
<v Speaker 2>doesn't doesn't osteoporosis and arthritis and and all the things

0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:23.120
<v Speaker 2>that could be can be life threatening. Like, oh, there's

0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:28.080
<v Speaker 2>some mad stats about ladies who have an osteoporetic hip

0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:32.680
<v Speaker 2>fracture if unoperated on. Oh there's a percentage that will

0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:33.680
<v Speaker 2>die in the first year.

0:24:34.160 --> 0:24:38.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, it's wild, isn't it.

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:39.560
<v Speaker 2>Old.

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<v Speaker 1>No, there's no such thing.

0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:45.560
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, keeping up my weights, I would definitely say, like,

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:48.119
<v Speaker 2>train not to be skinny, trained to be strong. Yea

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:54.920
<v Speaker 2>minimalize your processed foods, take them down as much as

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:55.320
<v Speaker 2>you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you only eat organic?

0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:02.200
<v Speaker 2>No, because it's expensive.

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:04.480
<v Speaker 1>It's hard, it's too expensive, and.

0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:08.240
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it's not convenient, like I'm in the supermarket and

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 2>there is no more organic chicken, or the organic chicken

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 2>is ridiculously expensive or whatever. Yeah, so I don't only

0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:17.880
<v Speaker 2>eat organic, but I do my best. Do you eat

0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:25.040
<v Speaker 2>as little process, minimal process? So I barely would. I

0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:27.199
<v Speaker 2>can't remember. I haven't driven through a drive through in

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I've never driven through a drive through.

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Really you walk through, get those steps up.

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:37.080
<v Speaker 2>I remember when I was a kid being in the backseat. Yeah,

0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:40.080
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, you won't. I sort of stay away from

0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 2>all of that.

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:43.000
<v Speaker 3>And so do you have to start again now because

0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:46.200
<v Speaker 3>you've got your period on twelve on the twelfth month,

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:48.520
<v Speaker 3>you have to start again another month?

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Like, are you expecting to get it again next month?

0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:53.200
<v Speaker 2>I have no clue what to expect. I'm in uncharted

0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:54.040
<v Speaker 2>territory here.

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that'd be horrible.

0:25:57.000 --> 0:26:00.840
<v Speaker 2>But this thing also too, with very menopause, and like,

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:02.840
<v Speaker 2>you don't you don't off the hook when you get

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:04.880
<v Speaker 2>to menopause. You'll still you still will have.

0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:08.240
<v Speaker 1>I think from what I've heard the symptoms get worse.

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 2>They can do yeah or not. If you are attacking

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:16.840
<v Speaker 2>this in a holistic mannering wave the white flag.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, don't give on.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you can actually definitely support those symptoms, alleviate many

0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 2>of those symptoms if you are prepared to kind of

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:33.840
<v Speaker 2>take a good holistic approach and be the CEO of

0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:36.639
<v Speaker 2>your own life. It's worth it. And like, I know

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:40.000
<v Speaker 2>many women who are perimenopause or menopausal who would bite

0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:41.960
<v Speaker 2>the head off a chicken if they thought it would help.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>So any woman that's sort of books approaching, like if whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>most women will do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, like what we're doing here, would do anything

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<v Speaker 3>for some.

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<v Speaker 2>Food exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I would almost buy the head off a chicken.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true, me too, Thanks lady, Thank you. Don't stop

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:08.720
<v Speaker 2>your weight training, keep eat your protein.

0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 3>Eat protein. Don't be scared to try some treatments.

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Don't go straight to go find yourself a good GP

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:20.160
<v Speaker 2>that specializes in menopause, and not all of them do.

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:28.280
<v Speaker 2>Austulasian Menopause Society websites and you can find a register

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:34.119
<v Speaker 2>of gps who specialize in them. The number one number one.

0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm afraid of it. It's not.

0:27:39.000 --> 0:27:42.359
<v Speaker 2>And we've been trained by our four sisters to be

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:46.000
<v Speaker 2>four mothers, to be scared and it's terrible and it's

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:49.360
<v Speaker 2>a jails and life's over, it's over, and it's bullshit.

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's so young.

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 3>I actually had a friend that went through menopause in

0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:57.160
<v Speaker 3>their late twenties.

0:27:57.680 --> 0:27:58.399
<v Speaker 1>Very early.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus, that's very Yeah, that it can happen. It can

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 2>also happen due to illness such as cancer.

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, so that's rare, but it can happen.

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:17.920
<v Speaker 2>So your age bracket for menopauses forty five to fifty five,

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 2>and perimenopause can happen from seven between seven to ten

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 2>years prior to that age, so from thirty five from

0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 2>potentially potentially could be beginning.

0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Which is scary when.

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 3>You're in a position where you haven't had kids yet

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:38.760
<v Speaker 3>and you think you could be going into perimenopause.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a scary thought. Man, women deal with so much.

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we do, but it's knowledge is power. Stick in

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:48.600
<v Speaker 2>your head in the sand is not going to help.

0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 3>Also, why I throw so many eggs and embryos for thatopause.

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I have those.

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 3>You're on the fore foot, I am for sure, no guarantee,

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 3>not a guarantee, but it's like, at least education's power.

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 2>You're not going to let yourself get to that place

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 2>and go, oh what now.

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 3>I just never wanted the choice taken away from me,

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 3>from our bodies, from our biological clocks, because we don't

0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 3>have control over it. So, and that's what I say

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 3>to people when they say, oh, should I freeze my

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:22.480
<v Speaker 3>eggs or should I do embryos? I say, look, it's

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 3>so important. You know, it's not a guarantee. Eggs and

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 3>embryos don't equate to life births. They can and they

0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:31.760
<v Speaker 3>can help you, but it's not a guarantee. But I

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 3>would rather have the option than have no option.

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 2>I use that same statement. I love that you said that.

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Use that same statement with health. Do it while you've

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 2>got the choice, before the choice is removed from you

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 2>and you have no choice. Yeah, like you're now a

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 2>type two diapetic, or you're now going to be on

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:52.800
<v Speaker 2>high cholesterol tablets. Like, make the choice before it gets

0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 2>removed from you. Yeah, so you've still got freedom of choice.

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, it's a scary thought.

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 3>But like you said before, no one's going to do

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:02.360
<v Speaker 3>it for you.

0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:05.160
<v Speaker 1>No, you've got to go and do it. I've actually

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 1>encouraged so many.

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 3>Friends in there in you know, all in their thirties,

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 3>to go and freeze their eggs. And it's funny because

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 3>a lot of them say, I don't, I don't. I say,

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 3>just go and get your blood tests and check.

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 1>Your egg county, just to start.

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 3>And I can't believe how many of their responses were

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:24.600
<v Speaker 3>it's easier not to know.

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to. I'm not ready to face it.

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, that is the silliest answer you can say,

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 3>because whether you're ready or not, it's coming.

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so.

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 3>You want to wait another year until you're ready to

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 3>face it might be too late. Yeah, it's hard and

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 3>it's confronting and it's expensive, but yeah, we don't have

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 3>a choice as women.

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Why not? Meanwhile, men firing off that spot like seventies.

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:53.400
<v Speaker 2>This is interesting. I can imagine if you said to

0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 2>a fella, because this is basically what happens with menopause.

0:30:56.960 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, once you hit that, your your overreason no

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 2>longer rolling out that hormonal genetic blueprint. If we said

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 2>to the fella's, look, you know, by that the age

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:13.960
<v Speaker 2>of fifty one, fifty two, your testicles will pretty much

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 2>shrivel up and stop functioning, and you know you're not

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 2>going to feel like sex and like one, and you'll

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 2>probably have lots of erectile dysfunction issues. But look, don't worry.

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 2>This is just a time of life ten years. Maybe

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 2>go through it gracefully. Just move through it with grace.

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Don't complain, just get it done. Yeah. Oh my god,

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>could you imagine that all.

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Of the funding for all of our submarines would be

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 2>suddenly sunk into.

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no more, no more costs for the political policies, whatever.

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 3>Everything's money going to testical research, from cancer research to

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 3>testical research.

0:31:57.440 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what it would be.

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:03.160
<v Speaker 2>Just moved through that time of life with grace and humility.

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And it's funny because I was about shut the

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:06.240
<v Speaker 1>hell up.

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 3>I was even talking to Steven and I just the

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 3>conversation was so fascinating. But the conversation for me was

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 3>so different because I'm like, oh, yes, I'm thirty five,

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 3>thirty No, at thirty three, I was like, at thirty three,

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 3>I was freezing my eggs because my fertility is so

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 3>low and I'm on the end of it.

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, He's sixty and he's like, oh, I'm thinking of

0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 1>having a baby with my own sperm.

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, man, I'm like, we're so because.

0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 3>He can exactly and I was like, just it's so unfair.

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 1>But we can't do anything about it.

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 2>No, there's absolutely nothing. Yeah, we can do about it,

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 2>but we can change our views as a society, and

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 2>that is only going to happen through conversation. That's only

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 2>going to happen through things that surround us, like things

0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 2>that we can never stop, like marketing, and you know,

0:32:56.720 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 2>like now we're seeing ladies with gray hair and looking

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 2>beautiful or in full blown marketing campaigns, which just sort

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:06.959
<v Speaker 2>of opening the board, opening it a lot to you know,

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 2>if we're still a part of society and we've got

0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 2>a lot to offer.

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think the other thing is that you don't

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:14.360
<v Speaker 3>really think about. But it's not just important to be

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 3>having these conversations. So other women hear it, but it's

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 3>so men hear it as well. Oh, because then men

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:23.480
<v Speaker 3>can have a better understanding of what you're actually going through.

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Because then they can help support you.

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 3>If they don't know, they never have any idea what's

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:29.560
<v Speaker 3>going on in our bodies and the effect ladies.

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 2>If ladies have as minimal information about perimenopause and menopause

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 2>as they do, what do you think men know? And

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 2>yet for a large majority, they're in a relationship with

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 2>a woman who's going to go through it at some point.

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 3>And how many times do you think a man has said,

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 3>stop overreacting, stop being so emotional, stop you're being crazy.

0:33:56.320 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 2>So was there, Yeah, said a black mama. So when

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:08.880
<v Speaker 2>we did the menopause method, and I've got all these

0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 2>specialists in and interviewed them, like, I learned so much

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 2>it was mind blowing. But I could see those videos

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 2>being watched by my ladies, but also then pulling their

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:23.520
<v Speaker 2>significant partner in and saying, sit down and watch this

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 2>with me, just so that you can appreciate what's happening.

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, for sure. Even it's the same thing just

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:31.560
<v Speaker 1>with periods.

0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:36.719
<v Speaker 3>With like even I did three hormone treatments for my

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:39.839
<v Speaker 3>IVF stuff alone, and then I did one with Ben.

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:43.320
<v Speaker 3>Ben was there, and even the difference from him actually

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:47.320
<v Speaker 3>seeing what I was going through and seeing being present

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 3>for the hormonal changes made such a difference because previously

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 3>he wasn't there, so over the phone I'd be talking

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:55.439
<v Speaker 3>about it or complaining.

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Or whatever if you didn't get it.

0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:59.399
<v Speaker 3>But then once I explained it to him and he

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 3>was injecting, I mean he's physically seeing it.

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:04.560
<v Speaker 1>He was so good because he was like, Wow, I.

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:06.840
<v Speaker 3>Can't believe what you have to go through for us

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 3>or for you know that choice isn't even yours.

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so education is.

0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:17.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so paramount. So yeah, I'm not. I'm very

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:21.280
<v Speaker 2>loud and proud about it because there's just so many,

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:27.359
<v Speaker 2>so many ladies that are in it. Oh, I wish

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I had the stats on me, but there's like we're

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 2>in if you went global, it's like in the billions.

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Of course people watching right now.

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:39.760
<v Speaker 3>So many women will be in it right now, especially

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:41.280
<v Speaker 3>because it goes for so many years.

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good on you, mischi be. Yeah, it's authentic. When

0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:51.440
<v Speaker 2>I put program together, I thought, well, at least ourt's real.

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 2>It's happening to me, so I might as well get

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:53.719
<v Speaker 2>it out there.

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 1>And who better to talk about it than someone is actually.

0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 2>It's actually going through it.

0:35:58.160 --> 0:35:58.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah,