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Speaker 1: Get a I'm Lala Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter,

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Speaker 1: and professional oversharer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure

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Speaker 1: because I believe it's a chance for us to learn,

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Speaker 1: grow and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview

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Speaker 1: a different guest about their highs as well as they're lows,

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Speaker 1: all in a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail. Hello,

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Speaker 1: fearlessly failing, fam We have Linda Duncom on the podcast today,

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Speaker 1: and holy Molly, she is a formidable force and can

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Speaker 1: I please be like you?

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Speaker 2: Linda.

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Speaker 1: She's an executive producer producer of The Queen's Jewels, this

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Speaker 1: incredible feature film. As soon as it is out, you

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Speaker 1: have to go and watch it because Matt and I've

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Speaker 1: seen it twice and we already are like, when can

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Speaker 1: we see it again? Linda has this incre history thirty

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Speaker 1: five years in finance and banking, and then literally was like,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to change my career and produce feature films.

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Speaker 1: She's so incredible, so kind, so warm and Ozzie so

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Speaker 1: enjoy the accent. But I hope you love this chat.

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Speaker 1: If you are a creative or anybody with a dream,

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Speaker 1: This episode is for you. Welcome to the Pod. Linda Duncombe. Mate,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know where to start with you. Truly,

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Speaker 1: truly so executive producer and producer of The Queen's Jewels,

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Speaker 1: which we have been lucky enough to see twice now

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Speaker 1: huge fans. But you have this whole other thirty five

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Speaker 1: year spanning career stemming from banking, and I have to,

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Speaker 1: like I said, I have post it notestually stuck around

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Speaker 1: the house, so correct me if I'm wrong. But executive

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Speaker 1: vice president, Chief Marketing and Data and Digital Officer at

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Speaker 1: the Bank of Stars, City National Bank. He did very well,

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Speaker 1: that's correct, He's really okay, And that's what brought you

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Speaker 1: to America initially, right.

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Speaker 3: No, it actually originally brought me to America was City Bank,

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Speaker 3: so my poor mom would get confused. I worked at

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Speaker 3: National Australia Bank, and I worked at City Bank, and

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Speaker 3: then I worked at City National Bank.

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Speaker 2: Got it?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I'm glad that your mum and I are

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Speaker 1: on the same path. So take me back. You're nine

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Speaker 1: years old. You're watching Charlie's Angels, You're watching wond Woman.

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Speaker 1: You're like, mom, Dad, that's where I'm going to go.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go to America.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was a very quiet, awkward child, very shy, and

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Speaker 3: I loved those TV shows. And we grew up in

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Speaker 3: government housing. I didn't know what that meant, that we

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Speaker 3: would watch TV, which was a huge treat when we

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Speaker 3: would twirl around like wonder woman. And I turned to

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Speaker 3: my parents. I remember it so clearly, and I said,

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Speaker 3: live in America. And I'm sure they thought, or maybe

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Speaker 3: hope I would grow out of it, but absolutely, like

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Speaker 3: without question or hesitation, I mean, yeah, maybe you could

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Speaker 1: And look at you and you and last night, literally

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Speaker 1: last night you were at the Emmys.

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Speaker 3: Were It's true, Josh and I reat the Emmys. It

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Speaker 1: Me even emotional thinking about Kate. Give me a highlight.

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Speaker 1: What was your favorite highlight moment.

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Speaker 2: In all sincerity.

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Speaker 3: Getting to do it with Josh Friedman, who I just

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Speaker 2: Always a huge privilege.

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Speaker 3: But you're walking like to go through the red carpet,

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Speaker 3: everybody's having to queue up. People that were on stage

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Speaker 3: It's an awards night that gets a lot of support

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Speaker 2: It was fun.

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Speaker 1: Did it feel like magic? And you and I both

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Speaker 2: I mean I was crying. I was so excited.

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Speaker 3: I was out of my check clapping and cheering, and

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Speaker 3: I just was just to see someone who's been able

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Speaker 1: Oh, I feel like I'm vicariously living through I literally thought.

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Speaker 1: And then off the back of that, I'm sure there

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Speaker 1: was some incredible after party that you need to And

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Speaker 1: you're here now literally the next day recording this pod.

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Speaker 1: So thank you for not stopping.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you for the opportunity. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Is that part of your like the way that you roll.

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Speaker 1: Are you just like someone that's I feel like you're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great I like that a lot. How

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Speaker 3: you just frame that, I'm definitely someone who after my

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Speaker 2: Life is a gift. Every day really is a gift,

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Speaker 3: Can choose to not do something with that, or I

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Speaker 3: And so every day, the smallest things, you know, like

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Speaker 3: every morning I meet Josh for our morning meetings and

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Speaker 3: we have a coffee and we go free walk, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I don't take it for granted. It's so wonderful

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Speaker 3: as I had planned. I throw everything at it because

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Speaker 1: So this was my next thing. I've seen you say

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Speaker 1: don't really believe in failure. You're more like, I'd rather

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Speaker 1: That kind of how you see a failure or like

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent. And there's a term I picked up

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Speaker 3: from a friend, I fail forward. It's probably as close

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Speaker 3: devastating experiences and some of the happiest is the person

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Speaker 3: And I'm I'm happy because I feel like I give

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Speaker 3: I can weird people out by telling them how much

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Speaker 2: Anymore, you know, And so oh that's not weird.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Like when I see it by mom

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Speaker 3: I'll send them random messages saying I love them because

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Speaker 3: and there are a few quirks and.

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Speaker 1: So we come with quirks. It's a package deal, right,

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Speaker 1: It's true.

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Speaker 1: So you, my friend, have an Order of Australia medal,

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Speaker 1: Ah. And I feel like I feel like your whole

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Speaker 1: and ambition, all these things, but I feel like one

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Speaker 1: of your biggest hall marks is how can I help

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Speaker 1: other people?

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Speaker 2: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: That's the vibe I'm getting.

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Speaker 3: It's really important to me to feel like I can

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Speaker 3: I can give something back. And sure, I mean a

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Speaker 3: lot of people like especially from a charitable perspective. Want

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Speaker 3: really hard and there was no luck involved. I understand

441
00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,479
Speaker 3: the mindset. I have a slightly different lens to it.

442
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,800
Speaker 3: I work really hard and luck has come my way,

443
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,680
Speaker 3: and I wrap my arms around it. I wrapped my

444
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,919
Speaker 3: arms around it, and so I sat there for like

445
00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:58,639
Speaker 3: according to one of my friends, I was at the

446
00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,880
Speaker 3: Barro mooent for like twenty five thirty.

447
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,040
Speaker 2: I was so happy.

448
00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,159
Speaker 3: I knew all like people that I love here in

449
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,480
Speaker 3: the room, people that support us, champion us, like I

450
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 3: stand on the shoulder of giants like and I want

451
00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,959
Speaker 3: to be very present and grateful, and I am. I

452
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,399
Speaker 3: just needed a little time on my own, and I

453
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 3: can find it in moments of chaos like that. I mean,

454
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:21,320
Speaker 3: Barney's It's great, It's for Linda and Rachel came out

455
00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 3: and she says, hey, like, you know you're gonna come

456
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:23,040
Speaker 3: over and join us.

457
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 2: Says, yeah, let's go.

458
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 3: Because I'd had a chance to, because it had been

459
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,239
Speaker 3: a big day. It was very emotional and I and

460
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,720
Speaker 3: I just again, like you said on that stage, like

461
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 3: you know, the reader Wilson and the Tom Hanks screening room,

462
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 3: you know, like it's and our names are up on

463
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 3: the screen, like it's just it's those pinch me moments,

464
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,199
Speaker 3: like you know, like that's the kid who grew up

465
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 3: in government housing and here she is.

466
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 2: Because I do believe in the Aussie battler, like.

467
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,639
Speaker 3: I really do, and and that that that is championed

468
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 3: in Australia, you know, Like and I came here and

469
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 3: people were so welcoming to me, wanting to be here

470
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 3: and to establishing myself here.

471
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,919
Speaker 1: That's how I say Aussies often do quite well here

472
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 1: because we've got that battler mentality and like hard work.

473
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 1: But I've also got like the Aussie Alarican, like yeah,

474
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 1: don't take stuff too seriously, Like there's a bit of

475
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 1: which I feel like you have in spades, thank you.

476
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 3: And I do think there's a love affair between Australia

477
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 3: and America. Yeah, there is a love affair of our people.

478
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 3: And I love I love living here and I love

479
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 3: that I'm still Australian and I love America and some

480
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 3: of the most impactful people in my life live in America,

481
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 3: like you know, and have been incredibly supportive to me.

482
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, I feel very blessed, very lucky.

483
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 3: Now.

484
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 1: When we had beautiful Josh on the pod, yes, he

485
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,160
Speaker 1: gave us a little sneak taste into kind of because

486
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 1: because I think, especially through the lens of an actor,

487
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 1: you kind of see movie magic and you're like, like,

488
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 1: can't wait to do that kind of a project one day.

489
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 1: And Josh was really good in like kind of opening

490
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 1: my eyes too. There's a business side to making movies,

491
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 1: and I feel like your skill set would have been like, yeah,

492
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 1: I can. I've got all this like nous and understanding

493
00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,199
Speaker 1: with finance, with spot, like all the history of everything.

494
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 1: That's almost like that's led you to this moment. How

495
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: important to the view are the listener? Is the business

496
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: side of making a movie?

497
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, it's critical, especially if you're and I think

498
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 3: this is even so with studios, but you will definitely

499
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 3: see it in independent films that they want to be

500
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 3: sure you can manage to the budget. They want to

501
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 3: be sure that you understand the numbers. And when Josh

502
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 3: and I were speaking to investors. He did an outstanding

503
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 3: job of showing his creative brilliance, like absolute genius, and

504
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 3: he wrote the script and it was incredibly supportive while

505
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 3: not always like cheering about the decision, but sometimes we

506
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 3: had to make changes to the script because of budget,

507
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 3: and he could see that all options were explored. He

508
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 3: was very collaborative with the team about things like that.

509
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 3: And you know, when you're sitting with like investors, like

510
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 3: explaining to them we're going to be in all these

511
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 3: different countries where there's different currencies and different tax different currencies, yeah,

512
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 3: and letting them know that we understood that. And you know,

513
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 3: budget versus cash flow, it's two very different things, you know,

514
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 3: And being able to have those conversations with them was

515
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 3: really important. While I often led a lot of those conversations,

516
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 3: it was only because that's what was my responsibility, you know,

517
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 3: Josh was a great partner. And then being able to

518
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 3: see as a director he understood the value of the

519
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 3: money and staying on budget and being responsible to that.

520
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 3: And I think that that for any filmmaker is really

521
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 3: important because you know, we talk about how it's hard

522
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 3: at the moment because everybody's fishing from the same pond fish,

523
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 3: we went to a different pond, and to show respect

524
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 3: to that new pond with new fish, they needed to

525
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 3: see that we understood the importance of making good quality

526
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 3: like work like this feature film, and we could do

527
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 3: it in a budget. So when you watch the film,

528
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 3: a lot of people say, oh, that must have cost

529
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 3: X and Meg wasn't that much. And that's because Josh

530
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 3: was so clever and creative in being able to really

531
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,239
Speaker 3: bring this scripture life on a big screen, which I

532
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 3: absolutely love.

533
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 2: I've watched it so many times now I've lost count.

534
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: It truly feels like a huge budget movie, like underwater shots,

535
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: strone shots, like stuff coming up from below. Hole was like,

536
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: yeses so epic an adventure, and I think you think

537
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 1: as a viewer, you're like, oh, this must be a

538
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: humongous budget. And I have heard you say people were

539
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: surprised when you were like, yes, this is an independent

540
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: film and yes we have fully funded it, like you

541
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: believed in it and championed it and really got it

542
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: to this point where your baby is completely coming to life.

543
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 2: I know where baby's going to have a home soon,

544
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 2: which is very exciting.

545
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I cannot wait. I cannot wait for

546
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 1: the next phase. And speaking of next phases, I have

547
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: to ask you about your next project. Yeah, being an Aussie,

548
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: it sounds flip and unreal, So give me a little taste.

549
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 2: Thank you, very excited.

550
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 3: I'm Monty Franklin, who you know is a very well

551
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 3: established comedian and has a very large following. Wrote a

552
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 3: script with the Rob Schneider and John Cleese and it's

553
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 3: called The Great Emu Wall and it's inspired by a

554
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 3: true story which I love and I think it's it's

555
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 3: written in such a beautiful way that it's going to

556
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 3: be austraight as human will translate into all different countries

557
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 3: and languages.

558
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 2: It's wonderful.

559
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 3: And basically there's a huge kind of uprise of farmers

560
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 3: in the nineteen thirties saying that the EMUs were overtaking

561
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 3: their wheat farms. And you see this kind of play

562
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 3: out in a very nostalgic, whimsical, very authentic way. And

563
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 3: it's going to be great to be able to showcase

564
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 3: some Aussie talent, some Overseas talent, some new technologies around

565
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 3: how do you bring EMUs to the film, And Yeah,

566
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 3: it's gonna be fun. It's going to be really good

567
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 3: fun to show that beautiful connection between the importance of

568
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 3: human talent with technology that really brings a film to life.

569
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: And Josh is going to direct it. We're both EPs.

570
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 3: I'm'm the lead producer and that will be April May

571
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 3: next year. We'll start filming and we're just kind of

572
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 3: pulling that together. Actually, I had a meeting about it

573
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 3: this morning, and so Monty's been wonderful to work with.

574
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 3: He's just so so talented, and I'm really excited by

575
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 3: this story. I'm really excited, and to be able to

576
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,959
Speaker 3: have that talent in this film just feels like a

577
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 3: really nice progression for Josh and I so very very excited.

578
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 3: There's words getting out like we just have a lot

579
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 3: of people approaching us right now and we're very very

580
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 3: lucky and blessed to be able to have these opportunities,

581
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 3: but say, hey, we're already working on something, and so

582
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 3: that's super exciting.

583
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: And you get to go home.

584
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 2: I get to go home Australia.

585
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 3: I have good and you know, I joke, Josh's half fuzzy.

586
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 3: We I go home three or four times a year,

587
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 3: and so I really love it. But to go home

588
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 3: and to be home and be base there, like for

589
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 3: you know, a couple of months, bring my mum on side.

590
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: You've got to bring your mom set in the trailer.

591
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, she'll love it. She'll love it so much.

592
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 3: And you know, like and my nephews and my niece,

593
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 3: like this is my family, like my friends I've had

594
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 3: since I was teenagers, Like this somebody is really excited

595
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 3: and supportive and so to be able to do something

596
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 3: like that in my home country and like, it's just

597
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 3: this the sense of pride is just enormous, Like it's

598
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 3: just oh yeah, very amazing.

599
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: It makes me emotional. And also this story Josh and

600
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,479
Speaker 1: I were talking about is so funny, Like the character,

601
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: it's literally literally the EMUs. I can give this aways

602
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: win right, Like that is inspired. It's so incredible and

603
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I just can't wait to see how

604
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: it all unfolds now, as I love asking this to

605
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: creatives that have kind of gone out there and done

606
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: the thing that they love and are living their passion

607
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: or the Yogi word for is darma to live your dahma,

608
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: And I feel like you are doing that. Thank you

609
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: for like a young actress or creative that's fresh out

610
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: of drama school in Australia. I trained in Melbourne fresh

611
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: out of Melbourne Drama School, you know, and I always

612
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: say that when you come out of acting school, it's

613
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: so exciting, but there isn't necessarily a bridge between you've

614
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: been in this beautiful little incubator that is drama school

615
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: and then to get on a set or to get

616
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: the reps all that kind of thing. It can feel

617
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: like a world away. So do you have any advice

618
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 1: for a young creative that is like, I want to

619
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: do this thing, don't I don't know how? Or you know,

620
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: should they just start creating? Should they understand the business

621
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 1: side of it and start networking?

622
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: Like?

623
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: What advice do you have for a young because I

624
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: know you were that young girl, you know, nine years old,

625
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: this big dream that kind of feels larger than achievable.

626
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 2: You know.

627
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, the nine year old didn't know that. I had

628
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 3: no clue I was I'm going to do this. I

629
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 3: would say a few things. First, networking can sound like

630
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 3: it's not important, but it's super important. Like it's really

631
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 3: important to build your network. It's really really important. Some

632
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 3: of the contacts that Josh and I have had meetings,

633
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: we've had and even around Southern distribution has come from

634
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 3: our networks. So it's really important to build your networks

635
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 3: in a very authentic way. To you, I'm not someone

636
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 3: who can walk into a room and everybody's there and

637
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 3: it's a networking event and people are exchanging cards, whether

638
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 3: that's physically or digitally. I find that stuff for me personally,

639
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 3: as an introverted extra, very uncomfortable. I'm in the bathroom,

640
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 3: I'm just like, do a lap be seeing it out

641
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 3: of here, and I'm sure there's a lot of nice

642
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 3: people in that room. It's just not my energy. And

643
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 3: so find authentic ways to network and to build genuine

644
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 3: connection and nurture them, like look after them, I would say,

645
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 3: especially for Australians, it's not in our nature to ask,

646
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 3: and in America you've got to ask. I had great

647
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: support from Josh and our friends and investors like Linda, like,

648
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 3: you know these people, phone them and ask them.

649
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 2: The worst they can say is no.

650
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 3: I felt like out of my skin, but it was

651
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 3: absolutely the best advice I'd gotten, especially as an independent filmmaker.

652
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 3: So I'd be like, don't be afraid to ask, and

653
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 3: don't lose sight of your dream. Even if it feels

654
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: like you've had to go around to get there, like

655
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 3: it's you bit off track if you know you were

656
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 3: having to work in a restaurant because that's what you

657
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 3: do while you're working in the local community plays.

658
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 2: But you're not getting paid any money.

659
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 3: But you get to live your you get to build

660
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 3: your muscle and enjoy your passion. I think it's really

661
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 3: really important. I do a lot of pro bono work,

662
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: and the work that I've done in the entertainment industry

663
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 3: has been very, very valuable into making this film and

664
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: establishing a career now and movie making. The business side

665
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 3: is really important. People want to see that you understand it.

666
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 3: But if you're an actor per se, it's it's good

667
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 3: to understand and be respectful to it. But they need

668
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 3: to build the muscle, start to get things on their

669
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 3: resume that shows that they're very committed to it.

670
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 2: And having a network super important.

671
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: Oh so good. I love how you say, like ask

672
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: because yeah, one of the things I love about Americans

673
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: is they're so direct, and initially when you first hear

674
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: off that that just flight, you know, but you're like,

675
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, they're so forward, But it is you

676
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: can see how really good business has done, and quite

677
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: quickly because you know where you stand, like people are

678
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: really honest about what they need or what they think

679
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: you can do, and it's there's a refreshing yeah. Like

680
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: I always say to people, it feels like there's so

681
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: much possibility here. And I think it's because of that

682
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: directness and that feeling like people are asking for what

683
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: they really want.

684
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, are hundred percent. When I first hit New York

685
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: and I would have these very direct conversations, I'd be like,

686
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 3: oh gosh, like it's a lot, but sir, if you

687
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 3: know exactly where you stand, it's very refreshing. And I

688
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 3: think it's every no gets you closer to the yes.

689
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: It's how I kind of taught it myself.

690
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 3: And also when people say no, we'll ask why even

691
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 3: when it's good, like because it's great, like it'd bit

692
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 3: white wires it great like. So you to have that

693
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: information and understand that the lens of someone like speaking

694
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: to you take the opportunity when they are to get

695
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: as much feedback as you can informs you for the

696
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: next conversation.

697
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: That's such a great idea. I never asked.

698
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, thank you, Yeah, thanks very much now

699
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 3: say that, like even when they go that's great.

700
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: Why is that great?

701
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 3: And you know, when we were people were approaching us

702
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 3: about the film and sales and distribution, and we had

703
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 3: a few people making offers and some would go that's great,

704
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 3: and Josh would say, oh, you know, thank you for

705
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 3: the feedback, always very well mattered, and be like, what

706
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 3: did you like about it? You know, and you know

707
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 3: or you know, like I thought this, you know, like

708
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 3: someone could give us feedback around oh, you know, you

709
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 3: should probably think about this in marketing, and we'd be like,

710
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 3: that's great.

711
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: Why do you think that? Yeah?

712
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: I love it? Okay, So I found a quote of yours. Oh,

713
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: let's hear it.

714
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: Nervous.

715
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: How can other people believe in me if I can't

716
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: believe in myself? And I love it, like it rings

717
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: true to everything you've shared today, But I think someday

718
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: it can be kind of hard to like, like you said,

719
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: you're like a like am I getting to where I

720
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: want to get to? Where am I going about? Something?

721
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: Really round about way? How important is that? Obviously self

722
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: belief you would have to be like primo primo, Yeah,

723
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: because you're well executive producing, you're running the show you're

724
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: running the ship. You and Josh it's your baby and

725
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: you're guiding this ship. How true is that quote to

726
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: how you live?

727
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it really resonates with me because if

728
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 3: people are gonna trust me, then I better you know,

729
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,719
Speaker 3: honor that and be and be credible for it.

730
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: I mean, another two you'll hear is imposter syndrome.

731
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 3: You know, there are days where I do doubt myself,

732
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 3: you know, and and you know, it's easier to stay

733
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 3: inside and you know, keep the blinds down, but I

734
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 3: make a choice to get up and think about, well,

735
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 3: you know, what is what is my per you know?

736
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 3: And I was joking with some friends about this. It's

737
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 3: so easy to say, oh, my coffee is half empty,

738
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 3: but actually it's like I've just drank half my coffee

739
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 3: and it was great. I know it's a very simple example,

740
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 3: but I gave it to someone earlier last week. It's

741
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 3: we choose our path and it's harder to be positive

742
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 3: and to see the goodness in things and the positive aspects.

743
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 2: Like I live in Santa Monica.

744
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 3: People will save their money, their whole life to come

745
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 3: there for a holiday or a vacation. And I'm blessed

746
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 3: to walk down there every day and go for a run.

747
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 3: I will never take that for granted. And while I

748
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: lived in around beautiful beaches in Australia, I just remind

749
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 3: myself of the blessings that I have, Like I I'm very,

750
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 3: very lucky, and so I try to role model what

751
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 3: I hope is a good a.

752
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 2: Good citizen, like I really do.

753
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 3: I know that sounds a little Pollyanna, but I do

754
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 3: really want to be the best version of myself.

755
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 2: Like I saw the sacrifices that.

756
00:34:54,480 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 3: My mum and dad made, Like it's yeah, yeah, do

757
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: you know what makes me think of watching you at

758
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 3: the Emmy's last night and the song that was behind

759
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 3: your like you were all glammed up and ten out

760
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 3: of ten heart and which would you sing by the way,

761
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: but and the song was this Girl's on Fire?

762
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was like, oh, it just fit. It

763
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: feels like your anthem because your parents, it felt like,

764
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: gave up a lots to make sure that you and

765
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: your brother had really beautiful childhoods. Yeah, filled with love.

766
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

767
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 3: And like if I said to my mum, you know

768
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 3: the sacrifices you and dead made, she would give me

769
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 3: the hand and go. We made no sacrifices, you know,

770
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 3: like that that's what's so nice about Like she truly

771
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 3: is probably the most optimistic person I've ever met in

772
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 3: my life. And she doesn't see it as a sacrifice.

773
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: And so you know, and I I do, you know,

774
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 3: like when I spoke to her on Saturday afternoon.

775
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: And I should, you know, what are you doing tonight? Baby?

776
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: And I was thinking, what we're doing is Josh there,

777
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 2: put me on speak about it.

778
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 3: I'm not here yet, but like we're going to this

779
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 3: incredible party to support a charity that gives back motion

780
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 3: picture Television fund.

781
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Very important.

782
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 3: And and I'm like, you know, like just the blessing

783
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 3: of being able to attend this and with our friends

784
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: and and promote the movie talk about what we're doing

785
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 3: with the film and whatnot, and and I get to

786
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 3: do those things Like that's incredible.

787
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: I feel like you have so many pincher self moments

788
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: like didn't you do a speech opening the Grammys wearing

789
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 1: and I saw you were Australiana.

790
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 3: Yeah I'm not sure you pronounce it.

791
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you?

792
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: Yes, But You've had moments like that, right and then

793
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: and then like to be on set with Josh, your

794
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: bestie in the entire world, Like, is there a moment?

795
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: And I know there's probably so many pincher self moment.

796
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: It's like you were literally the Emmys last night, I know,

797
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: but especially with creating, like and I feel like talking

798
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: to like being a producer and being an executive producer,

799
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: that's your purpose, Like that's your dream. Was there a

800
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 1: moment on set? Like I know someone was shot in

801
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: Underground k and where you were just like, oh my,

802
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: how are we? How are we doing this thing?

803
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 2: Yeah?

804
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 1: Have does anything spring to mind?

805
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: It's yeah.

806
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 3: It was interesting when we were coming from the Dominican

807
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 3: Republic to Florida and it was our last few days

808
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 3: of filming and we had a number of the cast

809
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 3: with Josh and I on the plane and Michael Evans Bailing,

810
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 3: who's a phenomenal talent and very just a lovely, lovely human,

811
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 3: and he was sitting beside Josh behind me, and people

812
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 3: got wind that he was on the plane and he's

813
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 3: in a TV show called All American and the flat

814
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 3: attendant had to announce like came over and apologized to me.

815
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's okay, Like Josh and Michael have gone

816
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 3: asleep and I'm really sorry, We're going to have someone

817
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 3: standing like just near their seat so they can just

818
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 3: have their privacy. And I'm like, this is so so surreal.

819
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 3: I would probably be the person who would have been

820
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: walking down the older trying to get a sneaky pick,

821
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 3: and now they're actually like protecting us from it. It's like,

822
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, like this is this is us we

823
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 3: make in this film, you know, we're doing this and

824
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,919
Speaker 3: and I found just that moment of like, well, like

825
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 3: like we brought these people together, like Josh, you know,

826
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 3: selected this phenomenal cast and went through a very thorough

827
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 3: process in doing it, and we brought this group together,

828
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 3: like that's that's surreal, you know, like it's and I

829
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: will say I think the first morning when we got up,

830
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 3: it's like four am and we're getting into the car,

831
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 3: like I was just like, I'm just like it could

832
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 3: have been any time of the day.

833
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 2: I was so hyperactive. I was so pumped up.

834
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 3: Then I started this thing, and now I insisted we

835
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 3: do it for every every film. It would be at

836
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 3: the end of every day. I go, if you're happy,

837
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 3: and you know, I clap your hands.

838
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 2: It's so bad.

839
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:38,959
Speaker 1: I love it so much.

840
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: We would have our drivers looking at with us and

841
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 2: I loved it so much, so good.

842
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was sound like play school Australia. That is

843
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: literally where I think.

844
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 3: And it would be like and then the guys would

845
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 3: be like, do we have to do this? And I'm like,

846
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 3: we're doing on every film we ever make.

847
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 2: Now.

848
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 3: I tried to do it at five o'clock in the

849
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 3: morning and no one was having any other it.

850
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 2: It's like it's too earlier, you kidding, Like it's almost

851
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: like Josh Maker stop, like it's too She's like a puppy.

852
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 3: But of the after people were more excited. I could

853
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 3: like rally people to do it and I would totally

854
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: get into It's funny when the drivers would start doing.

855
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 2: It with you and they'd be like, Linda, Linda.

856
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: Like one day we got in the car and we

857
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 3: just had a long day and they'd been unexpected rain

858
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 3: and we're in the car and we hadn't started it

859
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 3: yet and the driver starts going Linda, Linda, and he

860
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: starts doing it.

861
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: I loved it, Oh, I love it.

862
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 3: Yeah. There was a lot of pinch me moments, just

863
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 3: like you know, like I'd ring my mum and because

864
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 3: you don't. I'm like, we've just blocked off a lane

865
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 3: of the freeway and we're in we're filming all this stuff,

866
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 3: and Josh's got like hundreds of people and they've got

867
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 3: boats and there's some people on land. And I'm back

868
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 3: at the freeway where we've got like all these semi

869
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 3: trailers and trailers set up and we've taken over a

870
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 3: whole lane of a freeway.

871
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 2: Like it's just wild.

872
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like mind bending, like, ah, this

873
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: is happening. Well, my friend, I could talk to you

874
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: all day long.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Loly. It's such a bit egg thinking, Oh.

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Speaker 1: That was so fun. Please come back again. Let's do

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Speaker 1: an Australiana version for the great emu W wash me

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Speaker 1: do that.

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Speaker 3: I really tried to like turn my accent down, stay

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Speaker 3: but I'd love to do that.

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Speaker 1: Don't tone your accent.

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Speaker 3: I'm told often that people can't understand me, but because

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Speaker 3: I do have a very working class as the accent

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Speaker 3: that I love, like I do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you do. I feel like we're on

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Speaker 2: a similar Yeah, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: You are wonderful to the listener slash viewer. Go out

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Speaker 1: and watch the Queen's Jewels. Please, when it's got its home,

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Speaker 1: I'll ask you about after this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for this opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, I to you. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,

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Speaker 1: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation

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