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Speaker 1: Well, onto a very different topic light right now, we

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Speaker 1: Resilience on Friday and they are preparing for an historic

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Speaker 1: to tell us more about the situation is Carly Scott,

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Speaker 1: the CEO of Equatorial Launch Australia. Good morning to you, Carly.

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Speaker 2: Good morning. It's great to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, great to chat with you. Tell us a little

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we have twenty seven experts from NASA out

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Speaker 2: that we've already called and is set well in Eastana. Lad, So,

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Speaker 2: there is a NASA quality launch pad in Eastanam in

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Speaker 2: Wow, so much detail behind this. Such an exciting time.

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Speaker 1: So, Charlie, with these twenty seven people that are obviously

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we've got a range of people that i'd

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Speaker 2: So you've got a range of different professions in the

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Speaker 1: And so when are we anticipating those launches are going

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Speaker 2: Those launches are scheduled for midway through next year. Now,

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Speaker 1: How big a moment is this going to be? You know,

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Speaker 1: One of the things that certainly pricked my ears was

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Speaker 1: And how excited are the locals out there in Arnham Land.

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Speaker 1: Carlie, I know that at school holidays there's probably some

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Speaker 2: That's a really good question for kids listening in the car.

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Speaker 2: This is a real demonstration that space jobs are already

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Speaker 2: So when you look at those jobs, people often think, oh,

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Speaker 1: Well, Carly, it's lovely to speak to you this morning,

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