WEBVTT - Ask Uncut - Got milk? Or got the ick?

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<v Speaker 1>Life Uncut podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout

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<v Speaker 1>peoples today.

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<v Speaker 2>This episode is recorded on Gadigal Land of the Aurora Nation.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Brittany and I'm Laura.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is our Thursday episode, Ask Uncut episode where

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<v Speaker 2>we answer, well you deep, your dark and your burning questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I want to start by giving a little update

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<v Speaker 1>to something that's very important in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>What's happened?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Delilah's got a period, still.

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<v Speaker 2>Oldest, don't you It goes lowest, probably the same as

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<v Speaker 2>a human.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this really another update I've got.

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<v Speaker 1>She's very hormonal at the moment, so she's sticking to

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<v Speaker 1>me like glue. Anywhere I go, she goes. She has

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<v Speaker 1>to be touching me at all times. She wants to

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<v Speaker 1>be on me. I think she's got to saw tummy.

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<v Speaker 1>So I did google something and you can get a

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<v Speaker 1>heat pack for them. So I was like, I am

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<v Speaker 1>going to give her a heat pack. Heat it up.

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<v Speaker 1>She sat down on a bed, put it on. It,

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<v Speaker 1>went away for two minutes, came back and it was

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<v Speaker 1>ripped to shreds the heat.

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<v Speaker 2>Considering the amount of headphones that we've gone through in

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<v Speaker 2>this office, considering the amount of handbags you've gone through,

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<v Speaker 2>shoes you've gone does any of that surprise you at all?

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess I thought because she was feeling so poorly,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure she was.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she will, I know they do.

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<v Speaker 1>I googled it anyway, We've just googled it as we're speaking.

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<v Speaker 1>I can last up to a month period. The dog's period,

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<v Speaker 1>two to four weeks is what googled.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what's lasted too long? Us talking about

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<v Speaker 2>your dog's period? I hate episodes in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what?

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<v Speaker 2>I had to go challenged Laura, you know what, why

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<v Speaker 2>don't we talk about busters anal glands?

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<v Speaker 3>That could be the next good chat for today?

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<v Speaker 1>Well we have actually done that. I know about his

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<v Speaker 1>You had to do anal gland?

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<v Speaker 3>No, we are not.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's map date. We can move on.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what we're going to talk about? There

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<v Speaker 2>was a there was a little segment on the project.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're not just talking about the project because I've

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<v Speaker 2>been on it. This is totally just coincidental. No, this

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<v Speaker 2>is funny, really coincidental. There was a segment on the

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<v Speaker 2>project and it was a woman speaking about how she

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<v Speaker 2>got the ick. She went out on a date with

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<v Speaker 2>a guy and on the date, the man ordered a

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<v Speaker 2>glass of milk.

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<v Speaker 1>With his dinner. It was a dinner date, so he

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<v Speaker 1>ordered a glass of milk. This is a woman in

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<v Speaker 1>the UK and she said she found it odd. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why. I wish I knew why, but

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<v Speaker 1>it gave her the ick. She can't work it out.

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<v Speaker 1>There's something about a grown man sitting down on a

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<v Speaker 1>romantic date ordering dinner. You've got, you've got your wine,

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<v Speaker 1>and he orders I didn't even know if a restaurant,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you even charge for that? I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>think that's on the menu.

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<v Speaker 2>Like imagine sitting there and being like, I'll get the

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<v Speaker 2>yu steak please, and a glass of milk.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think about this? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's weird. Which is funny that it's weird because

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<v Speaker 3>it is just a drink.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you do I because we associate having a glass

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<v Speaker 2>of milk with children. That's why it's a very emasculating

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<v Speaker 2>drink for him to order it is funny. The thread

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<v Speaker 2>was funny.

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<v Speaker 1>So she actually, this woman actually put it out to

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<v Speaker 1>the world and she's like, why do I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is weird?

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<v Speaker 3>Is this weird?

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<v Speaker 2>Like? Am?

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<v Speaker 3>I asked?

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<v Speaker 1>Should I date someone that drinks milk? Some of the

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<v Speaker 1>responses were pretty funny. But maybe he's got digestion problems,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe he's got an issue. You don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know if that is helping the ick

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<v Speaker 1>situation that if you think your date has bow problems

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<v Speaker 1>that are that extreme that he can only order milk

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<v Speaker 1>at his dinner, do you know what?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I know that we're making fun of this, but

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<v Speaker 2>Matt loves a glass of milk. Would he order it

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<v Speaker 2>on a date? Like would we go out for a

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<v Speaker 2>lovely dinner to Icebergs and then him order a side

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<v Speaker 2>of milk? No, but loves a glass of milk. And

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<v Speaker 2>I find it a bit weird when adults drink a

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<v Speaker 2>full glass of cold, full cream milk. The whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>is strange to me. So, I mean I've got some

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<v Speaker 2>reserve judgment. There is nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a few things that make me viscerally ill to

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<v Speaker 1>look at.

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<v Speaker 3>One of them is talking about your dogs period and

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<v Speaker 3>love that.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them is the smell I'm going to give

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<v Speaker 1>you an insight into my life. One of them is

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<v Speaker 1>a smell me using your bathroom before. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>Laura Burnerstrop the biggest bomb.

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<v Speaker 3>We do not know to go into that.

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<v Speaker 1>You brought it up. I was going to bypass that

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<v Speaker 1>included Okay, I'm gonna have to tell you now we

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<v Speaker 1>did it. I don't know how you look so attractive

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<v Speaker 1>on the outside and your insight is rotting. Something is

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<v Speaker 1>not right, something is the right. And then you walked

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<v Speaker 1>in and you were like, I need to ship well.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, sorry, I've been holding onto that for four hours.

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<v Speaker 1>So then you came back into my room, Wakeisha and

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<v Speaker 1>I want my bed, and this smell was on you

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<v Speaker 1>and cave wafted into my room a Keisha and I

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<v Speaker 1>were like, we need to get out of here. Bought mission.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what?

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<v Speaker 2>This just gives you, guys an insight into how close

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<v Speaker 2>we are and how much we love each other. That

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<v Speaker 2>I will reserve going to the toilet in public to

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<v Speaker 2>do it at Britney's house.

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<v Speaker 1>No, if you were real friends, you would do it

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<v Speaker 1>in the public toils.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would like to make it very clear. Your

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<v Speaker 2>house is also where we work out it. This is

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<v Speaker 2>my workplace. And that was on you because you wanted

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<v Speaker 2>it to be here. I did not want this to

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<v Speaker 2>be our work Okay, let's get back on track.

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<v Speaker 1>What I was going to say, Besides your toilet smell,

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<v Speaker 1>a few of the things in life that make me

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<v Speaker 1>feel sick and I cannot be around. One of them

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<v Speaker 1>is the smell of butter in a pan, melting or

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<v Speaker 1>melting butter. I cannot look at it, I cannot smell it.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. You couldn't pay me to taste it.

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<v Speaker 2>My children will eat the spoonful of butter like a

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<v Speaker 2>teaspoon of butter, both of them. Every morning they are

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<v Speaker 2>obsessed with it. They wake up in the first thing

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<v Speaker 2>they say is butter.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. I would have to disown my child. I would

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<v Speaker 1>do that. What do you do when you divorce your kid?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's it called?

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<v Speaker 2>You know when you divorce your children? Yeah, well, it's

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<v Speaker 2>when you're terrible co parents. Abandonment, which one is when

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<v Speaker 2>children divorce their parents it's called emancipation, child emancipation, but

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<v Speaker 2>usually it's a child that's like, I don't want you

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<v Speaker 2>to be my parents anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, if you.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to emancipate yourself from your children, if they want

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<v Speaker 2>to eat butter, is that too much?

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<v Speaker 3>A little bit extreme, a bit extremety.

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<v Speaker 1>Back on track. The smell of melting butter. Cannot do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate that your kids just like gobble it up.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't eaten butter my entire life. The other one

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<v Speaker 1>is the smell of cooking raw mince or meat. So

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<v Speaker 1>when you put that mince that first once is cooked,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay, or it's got some seasoning. But when you

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<v Speaker 1>put raw mince in like I cooked Alailah's mince in

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<v Speaker 1>the air fryer, and I have to leave the room,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be ill. That's two of them. The

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<v Speaker 1>third thing is watching someone or drinking myself a glass

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<v Speaker 1>of milk. I cannot do it. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>taste it. I don't want to look at it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to hear it. It's thick, it's creamy, it

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be consumed on its own, and I want this

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<v Speaker 1>is my thing, So for me, this woman. If I

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<v Speaker 1>went on a date and he ordered a glass of milk.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that you shouldn't be judgmental. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't worry about their salmon shirt and their socks

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<v Speaker 1>and sandals. But if they ordered a glass of milk,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that would have to be me tapping out.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I've always wondered, who was the

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<v Speaker 2>first person, like, who was the first person back in

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<v Speaker 2>the date in caveman days that went, I'm gonna suck

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<v Speaker 2>from that cow's titty. I canna sack they whatever comes

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<v Speaker 2>out of that cow's titty, I'm going to drink it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then over time it's just become so normal that

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<v Speaker 2>we put it on our breakfast.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to think, Actually, if you think about it, Laura,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that weird. I don't think someone was walking

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<v Speaker 1>along saw an animal, saw the udder and thought I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna suck it. They would have seen the baby calfs

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<v Speaker 1>feeding off it. Okay, that's how they grow, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they would have been like, Okay, it's famine. I'm hungry.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thirsty. That little cow's growing exponentially. I'm gonna suck

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<v Speaker 1>on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Ditty Okay, no, because that would make sense if it

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<v Speaker 2>was just cows. But I'm sure all the cavemen people

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<v Speaker 2>saw cats sucking on other cats too. There's so many

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<v Speaker 2>other animals. Why was it just a cow? Why is

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<v Speaker 2>it okay for us to drink cow milk and not

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<v Speaker 2>okay to drink dog milk?

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<v Speaker 1>Like there are scientific reasons, all right?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, anyway, look, we wanted to take this to an

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<v Speaker 2>even weirder place. We thought we would throw it out

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<v Speaker 2>to our beautiful life on cut community, you lifers, and

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<v Speaker 2>find out what is it the weirdest thing that somebody

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<v Speaker 2>has ordered on a date.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I want to kick start by saying I actually

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<v Speaker 1>dated someone that did this. I dated them for quite

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<v Speaker 1>a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>And they ordered milk every time.

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<v Speaker 1>Milk shakes.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>The dinner though not, They didn't. It was it's the

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<v Speaker 1>same vibe, right, you go to a really nice dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>I would get the wine, but they would get a milkshake,

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<v Speaker 1>a chocolate milkshake, strawbery milkshake, always milkshake. They didn't like alcohol,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, why don't you just get like

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<v Speaker 1>a lemon lm bitters or something. Always a milkshake. No,

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<v Speaker 1>matter what time of day, no matter what meal, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter what level of fancy restaurant. And it eventually got

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<v Speaker 1>to the point where I was like, I don't don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny you say that because the very first one

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<v Speaker 2>I had from a life I was not that weird.

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<v Speaker 2>But we went on a coffee date and he ordered

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<v Speaker 2>a milkshake and it gave me the eck.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's what I reckon. That's okay. In the setting

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<v Speaker 1>you're at a cafe, I reckon it was.

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<v Speaker 3>The same guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Nah, Okay. I went on a date with this one

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<v Speaker 2>guy and he ordered klamari, but he also requested for

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<v Speaker 2>the crumbs to be removed and then for it to

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<v Speaker 2>be cut into small pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>Cut your own calamaria.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a first date, and he ordered one cocktail

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<v Speaker 2>to share with two straws, and then he insisted that

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<v Speaker 2>we link arms to drink it. I went on a

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<v Speaker 2>date with a guy and he ordered Bailey's in orange

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<v Speaker 2>juice and it curdled fun and rain.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that is literally saying I want to mix milk

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<v Speaker 1>and orange juice. That's what that is. That's my fancy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not made that up.

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<v Speaker 2>He made that up and then I bet you he

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<v Speaker 2>regretted it and then drank it anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon, you just panic ordered and thought of a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>How the waitress comes and like what can I get you?

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<v Speaker 1>And you're like, well, I'll have orange juice with Bayley's Like,

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<v Speaker 1>he just panicked it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, everything I ordered, he ordered the exact same thing,

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<v Speaker 2>right down to my allergy requests and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a panic order too. It doesn't know, do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm going to interrupt this quickly though. What I

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<v Speaker 2>do think on a date, how do we feel about sharing?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm like, if I go on a date with

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<v Speaker 2>a guy, perhaps not gonna happen again, but if I did,

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<v Speaker 2>if I was to if I go for a dinner

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<v Speaker 2>date and they don't want to share, it's an instant

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<v Speaker 2>like whatever I'm getting, you're going to get something else

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<v Speaker 2>different and we're gonna share it. If I go on

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<v Speaker 2>a dinner date and I'm like, I'm going to get

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<v Speaker 2>the fish and then they're like, oh, I'm also going

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<v Speaker 2>to get the fish, and I'm like, so we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get two fishes and eat our own.

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<v Speaker 3>That's dumb. I'm like, this is never gonna work.

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<v Speaker 1>That's dumb.

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<v Speaker 3>My relationship will never be.

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<v Speaker 1>No, if I got a carbon which I always do fishing,

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<v Speaker 1>carbarina ate chicken, if I get a carbonara and they

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<v Speaker 1>ordered the same thing, I'd be like, that is the

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<v Speaker 1>dumbest thing you've done today.

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<v Speaker 3>But you just wasted the opportunity for us to eat everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And the carbonara is a big like these are big servings.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to share it around.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, this one here is he asked for

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<v Speaker 2>no onion in his meal and then said to the

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<v Speaker 2>waitress in case I get a kiss at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the night.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, No, this isn't bad. But it's not bad that

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<v Speaker 1>he did it. It's bad that he said it. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's the assumption I knew that I was going on

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<v Speaker 1>a date recently and we're getting takeaway.

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<v Speaker 3>Put the sardines away.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I decided not to have the mackerel. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>made a conscious decision not to get Oh, I just

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<v Speaker 1>said it was actually I wanted the carbonara. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get it because I was like garlic, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's something you got to think about. You just don't

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<v Speaker 1>voice it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really nice when you're in a long term relationship

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<v Speaker 2>because you can eat anything. I can eat so much

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<v Speaker 2>garlic that my entire body smells proper. Downsayss like garlic,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, whatever, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>You do it as like a blockage, like you don't

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<v Speaker 1>come near me. I had the garlic. What about this one?

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<v Speaker 1>A long black? He ordered a long black and said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to last me a week, and then

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<v Speaker 1>took it home with him so that he could then

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<v Speaker 1>take it to work. A long black. That's just a

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<v Speaker 1>shot of coffee. How long is his coffee lasting?

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<v Speaker 3>You wait?

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<v Speaker 2>Like he's just putting like a couple of drops. He's

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<v Speaker 2>got n drop. He's putting a couple drops of his

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<v Speaker 2>milk every morning.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you don't add milk he just ordered.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean it's lasting him a week, So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what he istioning out throughout the week Monday

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<v Speaker 2>to Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>My partner puts mayonnaise on a steak so thick that

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<v Speaker 1>you can't see the steak anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm fine with that one. Io is that a thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that condiment for a steak?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>You can put as much mayonnaise on anything, like literally,

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<v Speaker 2>you could put mayonnaise on weep bigs and I make everything.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fine with that, okay this though, I'm not fine

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<v Speaker 2>with tiramasou with a side of ketchup. Someone actually ordered

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<v Speaker 2>tyramasu with the side of tomato sauce. And the last

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<v Speaker 2>one that gave this lovely woman the eck was we

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<v Speaker 2>went on a date and he ordered ice like a

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<v Speaker 2>cup of ice because he felt sweaty, and then he

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<v Speaker 2>sat there and sucked on ice for the entire day.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, no, I think that's okay. He's just hot. He's

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<v Speaker 1>probably Mexico. No is he it's hot, he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>cool down a bit of eyes. Nah, that one's all right.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't just order on a date, Brittany and then

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<v Speaker 2>suck ice like a child. What You're allowed to order

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<v Speaker 2>a jug of milk? No, I think that's a terrible

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<v Speaker 2>idea as well. Anyway, let's get into these questions. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna kick it off with question number one. I am

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<v Speaker 2>in a bit of a pickle, and I'd like some

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<v Speaker 2>perspective on this for context. At the start of the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 2>I found out that my husband of a year was

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<v Speaker 2>cheating on me. We tried to make it work, but

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately we ended up getting divorced. Fast forward to now,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've met someone who I think is truly my penguin,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is the most fulfilling, happy relationship of my

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<v Speaker 2>adult life.

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<v Speaker 1>But Dun, Dun, Dun's always a butt.

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<v Speaker 3>He really wants to get married.

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<v Speaker 2>He talks a lot about it and says things like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this could be a good wedding song, or I want

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<v Speaker 2>to do these things for my bucks all locations that

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<v Speaker 2>would be a nice location to propose that. But the

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<v Speaker 2>thing is, I don't really want to get married again.

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<v Speaker 2>Weddings ultimately are a huge cost and require so much

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<v Speaker 2>time and energy, and I don't know if I have

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<v Speaker 2>it in me to do it all again in what

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<v Speaker 2>feels so soon.

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<v Speaker 3>What should I do?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I being unfair to deny him something that he

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<v Speaker 2>clearly wants to do because I've already done it? Or

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<v Speaker 2>do I say no just honestly because I want to

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<v Speaker 2>focus on paying off my mortgage and starting a family.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I think I know what I want to say here,

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<v Speaker 1>Well go ahead, because usually you want to like chat

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<v Speaker 1>it out and get to your answer. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>you are completely entitled to say I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do this again. I've put so much money into it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want the big hoohark because I've done it

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<v Speaker 1>once it didn't work. You've obviously got some feelings towards

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<v Speaker 1>your last wedding and your last marriage, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>completely okay. But your partner really wants to get married.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think this is maybe a case of a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation and a meet in the middle. Is there a

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<v Speaker 1>reason that you can't get married officially, which is what

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<v Speaker 1>he wants, because he might just want to feel like

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<v Speaker 1>there is that commitment and you have said for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of your life, because there is something different about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying a wedding is the bill and end all,

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<v Speaker 1>but for a lot of people, it's a comfort of like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we are actually professing our love and saying we want

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<v Speaker 1>to do this. So is there a middle ground of saying,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we can elope maybe we don't have to have

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<v Speaker 1>the huge wedding and have ten friends and family so

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<v Speaker 1>that he gets what he wants. He's getting that special

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<v Speaker 1>moment he gets a wedding because he sounds like he

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been married before. And then you get what you want,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not this whole, big, elaborate who hah. But

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<v Speaker 1>you can't go and get married if you absolutely have

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<v Speaker 1>an aversion to a wedding as a whole, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just the idea of it being big and elaborate.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you just don't want to do that wedding

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<v Speaker 1>certificate again, you don't want to make it official again,

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<v Speaker 1>then you do have to just be honest with him.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree what you say, but I think that this

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<v Speaker 2>is quite a tricky one because there's a very big

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<v Speaker 2>difference between a wedding and a marriage, and that's something

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<v Speaker 2>that only.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what you feel comfortable with.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, is it the fact that the wedding is expensive

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<v Speaker 2>and hard to organize in all of that, or is

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<v Speaker 2>it the fact that you don't want to be in

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<v Speaker 2>a situation where you're married again and you feel like

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<v Speaker 2>your life is completely tied to someone who could disappoint you.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>A one year out from your recent divorce and being

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<v Speaker 2>in a your relationship is a really soon time period,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it is quick, yeah, really quick. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think if you were to have that conversation with

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<v Speaker 2>him of like, you are the person I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be with. I see this potentially in the future. But

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<v Speaker 2>right now, I'm not ready to get married. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that that's an unreasonable expectation or thing to say, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you're being unreasonable by saying I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>ready to get married again. But that doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 2>it changes my feelings for you. I also think that

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<v Speaker 2>the reason why he's bringing it up and saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a great place to get proposal, like this

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<v Speaker 2>is a great wedding song is I kind of think

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<v Speaker 2>he's floating your reaction. He wants to know whether you

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<v Speaker 2>are yes, yeah, Are you going to say yes? He's

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<v Speaker 2>actually trying to gauge from you what your answer will be.

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<v Speaker 2>So when he says those sorts of things, that is

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<v Speaker 2>your opportunity to tell him how you're feeling, or to

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<v Speaker 2>tell him what your reservations are. But I do think

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<v Speaker 2>that by being really honest with your communication, you can

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<v Speaker 2>explain that your reservations are not around the long term

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<v Speaker 2>commitment of the relationship, but it's around the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>you've already just been through this and I'm sure your

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<v Speaker 2>divorce was quite recently final.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you split up at the beginning of.

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<v Speaker 2>COVID, it takes a year for a divorce to actually,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, be able to be legitimate. So there hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>been that much time since your last marriage, and I

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<v Speaker 2>understand why you might need a bit of breathing space.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate to be the person who says like you

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<v Speaker 2>might change your mind, right, because they do think in

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<v Speaker 2>life like that's a very dismissive thing when people feel

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<v Speaker 2>a certain way about anything, whether it's kids, whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>about marriage, whatever it is. But there is the opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>that in the future you may change your mind. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that you have to make a decision

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<v Speaker 2>just yet. And I think that if he loves you

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<v Speaker 2>and wants to be with you, then he will understand that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there are some limitations with being with someone

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<v Speaker 2>who's already just been married.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing I want to add to that is

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<v Speaker 1>what you just said is very accurate, Laura. Maybe he's

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<v Speaker 1>floating the idea of an engagement right. And one thing

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to say, because I know a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people in my life, some family members, friends, some

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<v Speaker 1>people get engaged and that is the commitment. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>actually ever end up tying or not for no reason

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<v Speaker 1>in particular other than maybe they want to use that

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<v Speaker 1>money for a house. Maybe they don't feel like they

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<v Speaker 1>need that commitment. They get busy. It was COVID, but

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<v Speaker 1>they've realized that the proposal and the engagement ring was

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<v Speaker 1>enough of a commitment. So maybe, if you know you

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<v Speaker 1>want to spend your life with him, maybe let him

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<v Speaker 1>know that. If he proposes and you say yes, then

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<v Speaker 1>you can have a discussion too, and maybe you can say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm exactly what Laura just said, not ready for a

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<v Speaker 1>wedding yet. Let's just sit on this. Let's sit in

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<v Speaker 1>the moment you know, I want to be with you forever,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can have the discussion later about the size

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<v Speaker 1>of the wedding if you go to a registreet, if

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<v Speaker 1>you even do it. But if you want to spend

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<v Speaker 1>your life with someone, it's a pretty beautiful and a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty special thing. And I think you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>it's not I would be very surprised if you love

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<v Speaker 1>someone that purely. If this was a deal breaker, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's just going to be about compromise more than

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<v Speaker 1>is it a deal breaker totally.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing though, is and I mean now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>backflipping all the way just said, if you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you know in your heart of hearts, that you're absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>not going to change your mind on this, that you

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<v Speaker 2>do not want to be married again, that that was

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the process of the breakup, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>thinking that that person was the one and a force

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<v Speaker 2>was too much to tread that path again. Then I

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<v Speaker 2>think be really clear, because the worst thing you want

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<v Speaker 2>is for him to propose to you with the expectation

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<v Speaker 2>that a marriage is coming, and then for you to

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<v Speaker 2>have to disappoint him. I think it's always better to

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<v Speaker 2>try and get on the same page early as soon

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<v Speaker 2>as possible, to mitigate and manage someone else's expectations and

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<v Speaker 2>what they want for themselves, because the earlier you do that,

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<v Speaker 2>the less of a huge problem it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>down the path because you're only just like it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to compile and snowball the further and the longer you leave.

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<v Speaker 1>This comes back to honest communication. You want to be

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<v Speaker 1>with this person forever. Just tell them how you feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Alrighty question number two?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, this is bringing it back to the milky ick.

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<v Speaker 1>I sometimes get the ick after a first date. I

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<v Speaker 1>used to get it ninety five percent of the time

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<v Speaker 1>and now only about fifty percent. I'm good, that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>A single date you went on you had the ick,

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<v Speaker 2>and now only time that's a lot of ick.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm going to like jump in on this question.

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon I didn't even got past the fifty percent

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<v Speaker 2>of people I went on dates with gave me the eck.

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<v Speaker 3>Though that's normal.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess no, go high standards.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that would mean I was more iggy.

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<v Speaker 3>No, as in like you don't don't even get on

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<v Speaker 3>the date with them. It's like you can't get.

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<v Speaker 2>The ick because you're like no, no, no, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I like why this question goes. I'm good that

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<v Speaker 1>I get a fifty percent inch. I will send a

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<v Speaker 1>message and say I had a great time. I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't see going anywhere, to which they normally respond, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for the message. Let's still hang out as friends, they do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to put one.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's let's change your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>As I'm an outdoorsy girl and I like activities. They

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<v Speaker 1>want to still go exploring with me, hang out, have fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I am assuming this is because they think the first

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<v Speaker 1>date did them no justice. I say, sure, but then

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<v Speaker 1>I never talked to them again, or I stop replying.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not good. I know people tell me you should

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<v Speaker 1>always give someone two dates to give them a chance,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think if my mind is made up at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning, I shouldn't lead them on or put myself

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<v Speaker 1>through a second date if I'm just not into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you believe in the two date rule? Can someone

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<v Speaker 1>be better the second time around? Or if y'all know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I definitely think people can be better the second

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<v Speaker 2>time around, one hundred percent. But I don't believe in

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<v Speaker 2>the two date rule. I think you don't have, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to force yourself to go on a

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<v Speaker 2>second date with someone who everything in your inside is

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<v Speaker 2>telling you that that's a bad date.

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<v Speaker 1>Run.

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<v Speaker 2>But if it's like if you're just going to rule

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<v Speaker 2>out a guy because he ordered a glass of milk,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe on the second date you might realize that he

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<v Speaker 2>has some wonderful, redeeming qualities.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with what you said. I don't believe in

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<v Speaker 1>the two date rule because I don't think that's a

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<v Speaker 1>standard that everyone should get two dates. Absolutely not. But

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<v Speaker 1>I am ae hundred percent a big believer and I've

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<v Speaker 1>lived it and I've seen it with my friends that

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<v Speaker 1>people can change in the second, third, fourth, date, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that they're changing. But some people get really

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<v Speaker 1>nervous on a first date. Some people aren't themselves. Some

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<v Speaker 1>people don't know how to act that I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to say. They want to impress you, they withhold a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they give too much. There are so many reasons

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<v Speaker 1>someone might not be one hundred percent them. Sometimes I

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<v Speaker 1>go on a first date and I leave and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, what did I just do? Why was I

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<v Speaker 1>like acting like that? I'm like, but it's something that

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes if there's a lot of pressure on it, or

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<v Speaker 1>you're in an environment, you might not know. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>a set up and you're try to impress them from

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<v Speaker 1>a friend. There is a multitude of reasons someone can

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<v Speaker 1>be uncomfortable. If you've got the ick, straight up, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna give them a second date. Absolutely not. You

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<v Speaker 1>do not force yourself through anick. And also I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you can if you're ick from day one, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't recoup that.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I mean, like in what you just said, I

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<v Speaker 2>think when the stakes are high, like when you really

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<v Speaker 2>like someone, when you go into a date and you

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<v Speaker 2>meet them and you're like, holy shit, like I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>trouble they're the sorts of dates where it's very hard

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<v Speaker 2>at the very first meeting to be your a game

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<v Speaker 2>because when the stakes are high, you care, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're nervous, you're invested. Like it's harder to be on

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<v Speaker 2>your best and like bring the best version of yourself

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<v Speaker 2>when you're nervous and worried about whether the other person likes.

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<v Speaker 1>You, because nerves mean, nerves are the way of your

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<v Speaker 1>body's saying this matters to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and and your brain's going like, don't fuck it up.

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<v Speaker 2>And then of course when your brain's like don't fuck

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<v Speaker 2>it up, you probably say something you should you suck

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<v Speaker 2>it up. Do you know what I actually think of

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<v Speaker 2>when you asked this question, Britain, I'm surprised that you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't bring this story yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it me or you?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's your sister Sherry. So Sherry and Jay.

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<v Speaker 2>As you guys know if you've been a long follow

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<v Speaker 2>of the podcast, Sherry she does a lot of behind

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<v Speaker 2>the scenes for Life on Cut in the Facebook community

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<v Speaker 2>group go follow Life on Cut discussion group. But Sherry

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<v Speaker 2>met her partner, Jay, who she's now happily married to,

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<v Speaker 2>on Tinder. They spoke for quite a long time before

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<v Speaker 2>they actually met up.

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<v Speaker 1>I think like two months maybe, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then their first date sucked, like from all accounts between

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<v Speaker 2>the two of them, when they recount their first date,

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<v Speaker 2>they said it was incredibly underwhelming. They thought that it

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<v Speaker 2>would be the chemistry and the conversation would flow more easily,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was a bit jilted.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's because the stakes were high.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it was because and I'm glad you brought that

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<v Speaker 1>up now I remember, but you're so welcome. Yeah, thank you. No,

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<v Speaker 1>they so they spoke. They met when they were in

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<v Speaker 1>different countries, so Sherry and myself were in Peru and

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<v Speaker 1>Jay was in Scotland. They matched online on Tinder.

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<v Speaker 2>She literally had set her we set it to Scotland

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<v Speaker 2>because we're moving there, so you were looking for like

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<v Speaker 2>future boyfriends.

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<v Speaker 3>One day, two weeks time will be there, so let's

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<v Speaker 3>get set up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. We were like, well, a couple of months, we're

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<v Speaker 1>moving to Scotland, let's just see what the men are like.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're a kear furniture to arrive on the day

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<v Speaker 2>that you get there, and also your boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like when I ordered a heater and it took

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<v Speaker 1>four months and I missed it. For the whole winter. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it's in relevant.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very different.

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<v Speaker 1>So they started, they hit it off. Their chemistry was

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<v Speaker 1>out of this world on text. So for months, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking like one hundred messages a day, the banter calls.

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<v Speaker 1>It was crazy. I was like, this is wild to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Then their first date, they came back and they were like, Sharon,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, how was it? I mean, actually I

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<v Speaker 1>was on the date with him, but then I left

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<v Speaker 1>and gave them some time.

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<v Speaker 3>Could you tell that it was a little bit?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh was so awkward. Jay couldn't even eat. He was

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<v Speaker 1>so nervous he could even finish his meal, and we

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<v Speaker 1>were like, poor backpackers. I was like, are you finished

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<v Speaker 1>with that? I will literally read that, please. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why we'll eat that. And they went on a

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<v Speaker 1>few more dates and it got slowly better. But then

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<v Speaker 1>they had a moment a couple of dates in and

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<v Speaker 1>where Shardan was like, I think we're just supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be friends. Then she's like, I'll give it one more chance.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when they got comfortable enough for it to

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<v Speaker 1>be fucking amazing, and it is. They are six years

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<v Speaker 1>now and they are just the most perfect couple. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was because and they say this now, there was

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<v Speaker 1>so much pressure for it to be amazing, because they'd

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<v Speaker 1>put the pressure on themselves and then they get there

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<v Speaker 1>and they did not what to do. They know how

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<v Speaker 1>to speak them and know how to act, but it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a matter of the ick. They liked each other.

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<v Speaker 1>They were great people. There's nothing wrong with them. So

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<v Speaker 1>because they let it evolve and gave it a chance,

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<v Speaker 1>it turned into something amazing. So I think if you

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<v Speaker 1>are not revolted by the person, because they think about

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<v Speaker 1>the times you go on a date, right, I know

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<v Speaker 1>everyone out there is And I say to you, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>there are so many times that you go on a

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<v Speaker 1>date and you're like, I don't know. It was a bit,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing wrong with them. Was there a crazy chemistry? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Did we laugh and have a good time?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>And then you're trying to work out in your head.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you give it another time and something grow there?

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of the time it can. So I think,

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily brush it off after one date.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think that'll be sometimes we expect the

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<v Speaker 2>fireworks and the chemistry and the insanity and the intense

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<v Speaker 2>and the ease of it. We almost expect that too much,

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<v Speaker 2>like we think that if it doesn't have that, then

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<v Speaker 2>it must not be good. But that stuff, and I

0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:08.760
<v Speaker 2>mean we've spoken about it for three and a half

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<v Speaker 2>years now, like that shit can grow, it truly can.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing that I just want to touch on

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<v Speaker 2>from your question is you said I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>lead them on.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, should I go on a second date or

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<v Speaker 3>is that leading them on?

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<v Speaker 2>No, going on two dates with someone, whether you're invested

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<v Speaker 2>in them or you're not invested in them, is not

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<v Speaker 2>leading them on. You don't owe anybody anything after two dates.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing that at that point in time could

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<v Speaker 2>lead someone on is if you're having sex with them

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<v Speaker 2>and telling them that you're really invested in them.

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<v Speaker 3>That's leading them on if you're not.

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<v Speaker 2>But if your actions on that date are authentic to

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<v Speaker 2>how you feel, if you're genuinely just getting to know

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<v Speaker 2>the person, if you're feeling it out and you're kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like, you know, maybe you have a kiss, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have a kiss. None of that is leading

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<v Speaker 2>someone on. That is all just figuring out whether you

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<v Speaker 2>actually like the person and want to go on another date,

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<v Speaker 2>and if after two dates even if you've kissed the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>After two dates, you decide, oh, I'm actually not into them,

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<v Speaker 2>saying hey, sorry, you know I'm not as into you

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<v Speaker 2>as I thought I was. You still haven't let that

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<v Speaker 2>person on.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you could date someone for a year and decide

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<v Speaker 1>it's not right and it's not leading them on, like

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<v Speaker 1>you're allowed, but you're allowed to change your mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Changing your mind isn't leading someone Okay, leading someone on

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<v Speaker 2>is purposely knowing that you don't like someone and making

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<v Speaker 2>them for a prolonged period of time. Think that you

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<v Speaker 2>do just so you can get something out of them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's leading someone on, so that you know, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>lonely and you don't want to be alone, they're filling

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<v Speaker 2>your time, or if they're just like a segue to

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<v Speaker 2>your next relationship, like it's manipulating someone, that's leading them on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you left the date and you're like ill revolted,

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<v Speaker 1>but you text them and said had a great time,

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<v Speaker 1>that's leading them on. Going on a second date. Not

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<v Speaker 1>so bad? All right, let's move on to the third question.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, question number three. I've been with my partner now

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<v Speaker 2>for almost five years. I'm twenty three years old. And

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<v Speaker 2>we have a mature relationship for our age. What I

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<v Speaker 2>mean by this is we have a joint bank account

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<v Speaker 2>and we've just bought fifty acres of land together to

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<v Speaker 2>build a house, and our future is pretty planned out.

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<v Speaker 1>To big house.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a big that's also a big investment. Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>amazing twenty three years old, if you know what you want.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a gut feeling and looked through his phone

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<v Speaker 2>on Saturday night, and I know I shouldn't have done it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've apologized for disrespecting his privacy, but I found

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<v Speaker 2>a saved Snapchat message to a girl that he's known

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<v Speaker 2>for years and I haven't met her, but it said

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I didn't have a girlfriend so I could

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<v Speaker 2>see your only fans.

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<v Speaker 3>I bought it up with.

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<v Speaker 2>Him, and he's adamant that he didn't send it, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was at five point thirty PM on a regular

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<v Speaker 2>Monday afternoon, so it was obviously him. I told him

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<v Speaker 2>that if it was a one time lapse in judgment

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<v Speaker 2>and the heat of the moment, that he could tell

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<v Speaker 2>me and we could move past it. But he is

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<v Speaker 2>set on denying that he didn't do it. What's upset

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<v Speaker 2>me the most isn't the fact that he wants to

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<v Speaker 2>see in other girls only fans. You know, I get it,

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<v Speaker 2>guys have needs, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. But

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<v Speaker 2>what's upset me is that he's told someone who knows

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<v Speaker 2>that he's in a long term relationship with me that

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<v Speaker 2>he wishes he didn't have a girlfriend. It has absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>broken my heart and I'm finding it hard to move

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<v Speaker 2>past it. How can I move on from this and

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<v Speaker 2>forget it?

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing that, oh, it's a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>red flag for me. There is the denial, although that's

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<v Speaker 1>like the one you've been caught out, Like I think

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<v Speaker 1>when you get caught out in something like this, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's physically there, she's seen the message, it's in your phone.

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<v Speaker 1>The only way I think I'd be able to move

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<v Speaker 1>forward is if I approached this with him. I had

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation with him, I confronted him and he owned

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<v Speaker 1>up to it, and so it was holy shit, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I fucked up.

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<v Speaker 3>I fucked up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm beside myself. I don't know why I did. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I whatever his reason, I'm not saying it's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But the denial part for me saying it didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about? Like this level of I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it was gaslighting, but you're saying it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't happen when you know it did. That's going to

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<v Speaker 1>start to make you think, did it happen? Could it

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<v Speaker 1>have been someone else? Was it someone that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>start to make you question your own Well, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to say insanity, but what you saw and maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, did I misinterpret it? Did I read

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<v Speaker 1>it wrong? Do I remember actually what I said? The

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<v Speaker 1>ownership in this is imperative for me to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to move.

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<v Speaker 2>Forward at all. Well, I think you completely hit the

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<v Speaker 2>nail on the head. And like, the only thing I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to add to that is this is gas lighting.

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<v Speaker 2>That's quintessential gas lighting. Like if you have seen something,

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<v Speaker 2>if you know that there is a saved Scent message

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<v Speaker 2>that says sent from Fred to Sarah on this date,

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<v Speaker 2>on this date, at this time that says, I wish

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:04.479
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have a girlfriend so I could see your

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<v Speaker 2>only fans.

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<v Speaker 3>Look.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's nice that he didn't go and look

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<v Speaker 2>at her only fans, And I mean it's a horrible

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<v Speaker 2>thing that he wrote. That's a really awful message to read,

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<v Speaker 2>because you never want your partner to say that they

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<v Speaker 2>wish they don't have you in their life. But it

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<v Speaker 2>is the lack of acknowledgment, and it's really hard to

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<v Speaker 2>move past something when you have been given no validation

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<v Speaker 2>by him saying I didn't do it and completely denying

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<v Speaker 2>it and shutting down that conversation. It denies you any

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<v Speaker 2>validation for your feelings because therefore he's saying, well, you

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't feel like that because it never happened. That is

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 2>very manipulative behavior, and I know why he's doing it.

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 2>He's doing it because he doesn't want to lose you.

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<v Speaker 2>He's doing it because he doesn't want you to be

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<v Speaker 2>upset or offended or angry at him. And it's easy

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<v Speaker 2>for him to dig his heels in and say I

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<v Speaker 2>just didn't do it, because then he doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with any of the repercussions for his bad behavior.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do think it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Very unfair of him to expect for you to completely

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<v Speaker 2>move past this, to be completely fine, and to forget

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<v Speaker 2>it without getting any validation for why you feel the

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<v Speaker 2>way that you feel what he actually did in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of the betrayal. I mean, it's up to you to

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<v Speaker 2>decide whether that's something that you can overcome in time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel like, for me, if that had happened

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<v Speaker 2>to me after X amount of years of dating someone,

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<v Speaker 2>after you know, having a joint bank account and owning

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<v Speaker 2>property together, and knowing that he was actually genuinely, really

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<v Speaker 2>invested in the relationship, I think personally I would be

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<v Speaker 2>able to overcome that, but I would need some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of fucking apology to feel like my feelings were valid.

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<v Speaker 1>I one hundred percent agree. I feel like, and again, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>this is our personal opinion. If we were in this situation,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, if there was ownership and a discussion

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<v Speaker 1>why he did it, maybe for whatever reason, But if

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 1>he explains himself makes you feel like it was a

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<v Speaker 1>huge mistake, you'll never do it again, and only then

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 1>if you believe him and you can move forward. Because

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 1>you're the one that has said this has unsettled me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to move forward. If you can't

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:57.800
<v Speaker 1>move forward, this is very problematic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And because with the lack of apology and lack

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 2>of acknowledgment, like my thought would be, well, maybe you're

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:05.479
<v Speaker 2>just gonna do it again because you're not sorry for it.

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sorry, you've just denied it.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, the only way you said you want to move

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<v Speaker 1>past it, but you're a bit stuck at the moment

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 1>because there's no ownership. The only way for you to

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>move past it is have a really fucking hard conversation,

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 1>and that's to be like, call him out on it.

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 1>You're entitled to call him out on it. If he's

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<v Speaker 1>gas lighting you again and says I didn't do it,

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<v Speaker 1>just say, look, let's stop beating around the bush. It's there.

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Let's call a spade a spade. I know you've done it.

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 1>I saw it. If you keep denying this, we cannot

0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 1>move forward. Just put it out there, lay all your

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 1>cards out there. You don't have to be aggressive, you

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 1>don't be angry. You can do it however you want.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard, though, isn't it, Because I guess in her mind,

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<v Speaker 2>she's like, I don't want to create an even bigger

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<v Speaker 2>issue because she doesn't want to break up with him.

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<v Speaker 2>She wants to work through this. She wants to be

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<v Speaker 2>with him, which is why she has to have the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>In my eyes, you could say that to him. You

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:53.680
<v Speaker 2>could say this has bothered me. This is really I

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 2>don't know how to sit with this. I don't feel comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I trust you now. Can we

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it because I want to move on.

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<v Speaker 3>Hughes, Like, what does he say?

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<v Speaker 2>He says, I didn't do it, Like my friend took

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 2>my phone and got my snapchat and then he wrote

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 2>to my friends. Yeah, Like who is he saying sent

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 2>the message? Is he saying that the message just didn't exist?

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 2>Or is he saying that you imagined it? Like I

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 2>would love to know.

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<v Speaker 3>I need more context. Please write back to us.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know aftermath what he actually is trying

0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 2>to tell you that happened, you know, because like that

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 2>is part a really important piece of the story, Like

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 2>you can't just completely deny a message that's so clearly

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 2>and obviously there. He's like it was the opters hacker, Like, yeah,

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:30.000
<v Speaker 2>they took my Medicare number and all sudden sarah a message,

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<v Speaker 2>they got my.

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<v Speaker 1>Snapchat and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Ultimately that the other part of this is I know

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<v Speaker 2>that you say that you're in a very mature relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>and it sounds like it is a very mature relationship.

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 2>But the way he is behaving is not a mature

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 2>reaction to doing something wrong, and you know we can

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<v Speaker 2>move past cheating. Cheating is definitely something that happens unfortunately,

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 2>whether it's physical cheating, micro cheating, emotional cheating, it happens

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 2>in relationships. It doesn't mean that he doesn't love you,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't mean that he thinks less of your relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't even mean that he's ever actually thought I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to be with my girlfriend. There's many, many

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<v Speaker 2>reasons to why he has done what he's done, and

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<v Speaker 2>it could have just been a lapse in temptation. But

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to keep circling back on the same point,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's that you need validity for the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>you have been hurt, and if he hasn't and can't

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:19.280
<v Speaker 2>say sorry, then you're not getting that. So it's really

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 2>hard for you to move forward and it's almost an

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 2>unfair expectation that you have in yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Good luck. I hope you find what you're looking for. Please, guys,

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