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Speaker 1: How are we going team? Welcome to the Daily Odds.

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Speaker 1: My name is Sam and I am joined by the

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Speaker 1: co founder Zara. Happy Friday to every listener out there.

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Speaker 1: Whether you're listening during a lockdown or you have some freedoms,

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Speaker 1: we hope that you are safe and well. Zara take

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Speaker 1: us through the day's news and then we're going to

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Speaker 1: head to one of our Daily Odds journalists, Mariah for

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Speaker 1: a chat about the latest news from Texas.

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Speaker 2: So starting domestically, New South Wales recorded again over one

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Speaker 2: thousand cases. There were one thy two hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: eight yesterday and sadly, there were also seven deaths recorded.

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Speaker 2: Victoria meanwhile recorded one hundred and seventy six locally acquired cases,

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Speaker 2: and the Premier did foreshadow that this number is likely

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Speaker 2: to grow. The ACT recorded twelve locally acquired cases yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Australia Posts will temporarily suspend parcel post collections for retailers

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Speaker 1: in New South Wales, Victoria and the Act, starting this

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Speaker 1: Saturday and ending on Tuesday. In real time ter that

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Speaker 1: means that if you've ordered something from an online retailer,

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Speaker 1: it might take a few more days to get to

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Speaker 1: your front door. The post Service is attempting to clear

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Speaker 1: a backlog of parcels in its network as a result

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Speaker 1: of five hundred employees of Australia Posts self isolating because

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Speaker 1: of exposure to COVID nineteen Express Posts, Premium, Star, Trek

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Speaker 1: Express and letters will be collected as normal and all

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Speaker 1: other states will continue to have parcel collections like any

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Speaker 1: other week.

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Speaker 2: Now. Mariah's going to deep dive on this one in

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Speaker 2: a bit, But a new law has come into effect

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Speaker 2: in Texas that ultimately bans abortions after a heartbeat is detected,

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Speaker 2: which we know is usually around six weeks. The US

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court previously hadn't acted on any emergency appeal to

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Speaker 2: put the law on hold, but yesterday it ruled that

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Speaker 2: it would refuse to block the ban. The law does

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Speaker 2: give private citizens the power to sue abortion providers and

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Speaker 2: anyone who quote AIDS and A, bets and abortion after

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Speaker 2: six weeks of pregnancy.

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Speaker 1: And your Friday good news. As of yesterday, Australia has

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Speaker 1: officially administered twenty million doses of the COVID nineteen vaccine.

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Speaker 1: Federal Health Minister Greg Hunt said on the milestone quote

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Speaker 1: We're not just on the way, We're making real and

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Speaker 1: significant progress.

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Speaker 2: There was a really, really significant legislative change that occurred

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Speaker 2: in Texas on the first day of September. We're joined

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Speaker 2: by Maria Lattis, who has been doing a deep dive

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Speaker 2: into this topic for our Instagram and is tracing why

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Speaker 2: this change is so significant for women across Texas. So Maria,

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Speaker 2: let's start at the beginning. What does this legislation actually do.

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Speaker 3: So the new law that did come into effect essentially

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Speaker 3: bands abortions at the six week mark of the pregnancy,

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Speaker 3: which is when the heartbeat is usually first detected. What's

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Speaker 3: important to note about this law is that around eighty

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Speaker 3: to ninety percent of procedures in the state happens after

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Speaker 3: the sixth week of pregnancy, according to lawyers for several

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Speaker 3: clinics in Texas, and that was reported by the New

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Speaker 3: York Times. So most of the abortions that occur in

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Speaker 3: Texas are now banned.

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Speaker 2: That seems to be incongruent with what Roe v. Wade

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Speaker 2: set out to do. So firstly, can you explain what

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Speaker 2: Roe v. Wade actually is and what it means for Americans?

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Speaker 2: And then can you give our audience a bit of

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Speaker 2: an understanding as to how this legislation can exist alongside

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Speaker 2: Roe v. Wade.

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Speaker 3: So some background on Roe v. Wade. In nineteen seventy three,

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Speaker 3: the US Supreme Court, which is sort of equivalent to

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Speaker 3: the High Court here in Australia, decided that people had

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Speaker 3: the right to have an abortion without excessive government restriction.

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Speaker 3: The decision means that states can't outright ban abortion. The

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Speaker 3: court case inspired massive debate in the US, and the

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Speaker 3: decision was actually backed by an entire movement prior to

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Speaker 3: the decision ever being made by the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 2: So what we're seeing in Texas isn't an outright ban

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Speaker 2: on abortions, because presumably it's saying that if you are

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Speaker 2: prior to this six week mark, it is still legal.

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Speaker 2: But they're there are concerns from pro choice groups, aren't there?

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Speaker 3: Yes, there are, And the reason why is that this

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Speaker 3: particular law in Texas is quite different compared to some

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Speaker 3: other laws and restrictions that have been implemented in other states.

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Speaker 3: It was drafted specifically to be quite difficult to challenge

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Speaker 3: in court. So usually a lawsuit seeking to block a

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Speaker 3: law because it's unconstitutional would name state officials as the defendants. However,

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Speaker 3: this specific Texas law makes no exceptions for pregnancies resulting

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Speaker 3: and instead allows private individuals to sue anyone who performs

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Speaker 3: the procedure or aids and abets it. So while the

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Speaker 3: patient may not be sued, doctors and staff members at

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Speaker 3: clinics and counselors, or people who help pay for the procedure,

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Speaker 3: and even an uber driver or a taxi driver taking

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Speaker 3: a patient to the abortion clinic are all potential defendants.

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Speaker 3: So even plaintiffs who don't live in Texas but still

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Speaker 3: do have a connection to the abortion or shoot injury

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Speaker 3: from it are entitled to ten thousand dollars USD and

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Speaker 3: their legal fees recovered if they win. Prevailing defendants are

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Speaker 3: this is quite confusing as it is, and it's not

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Speaker 3: just the people receiving the abortions that could get in

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Speaker 3: trouble with the law. There are so many other people

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Speaker 2: And talk me through what the Supreme Court voted on

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court because it has changed in recent years.

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Speaker 3: So it's important to know that with the Supreme Court

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Speaker 3: in the US, there are judges that are quite open

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Speaker 3: about their political opinions and where they sit ideologically. So

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Speaker 3: initially it was five to fours, so five conservative judges,

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Speaker 3: four more liberal judges. Now when we say liberal, when

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Speaker 3: we're referring to the US, we mean more progressive. But

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Speaker 3: with the death of Ruth Beta Ginsburg last year, Ruth

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Speaker 3: was a liberal judge. This then led to President at

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Speaker 3: was conservative. This then meant that the current composition of

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Speaker 3: the Supreme Court is six ' three six conservative, three liberals.

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Speaker 3: So the composition of the Supreme Court typically leans conservative

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Speaker 3: with the six ' to three composition. Now, it's also

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Speaker 3: important to note that there is a bit of history

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Speaker 3: with this new law that has come into effect. The

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Speaker 3: law was first introduced back in May by Republican Governor

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Speaker 3: of Texas Greg Abbott, but didn't come into effect until

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Speaker 3: September first. So introduced back in May, but not put

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Speaker 3: into effect until September first. Now in the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 3: you can have emergency appeals, so people can submit emergency

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Speaker 3: appeals for the Supreme Court to act upon, and an

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Speaker 3: emergency appeal was put forward to block the law or

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Speaker 3: hold the law into coming effect. However, the Supreme Court

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Speaker 3: did not do anything with that emergency appeal, so they

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Speaker 3: just kind of left it prior to September first deadline.

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Speaker 3: After the September first deadline, we found out yesterday that

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Speaker 3: the Supreme Court did rule five to four, so five

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Speaker 3: of the judges refused to block the law, four were

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Speaker 3: pro blocking the law. So with the more conservative judges

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Speaker 3: on the Supreme Court, it appears that they decided to

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Speaker 3: make more of a conservative decision.

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Speaker 2: This is going to be a really really significant story,

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Speaker 2: not only in the US, but the president. It sets worldwide,

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Speaker 2: So it's one we're going to be covering a lot,

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Speaker 2: and no doubt we'll be speaking about a lot in

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Speaker 2: the weeks and months to come. Mariah, thank you so much,

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Speaker 2: and with that we will leave you for the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Have a great weekend, everybody, stay safe if you're in

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Speaker 1: a lockdown area, and we'll speak to you on Monday.