1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: That has gotten room, has gotten room. On the cutting 2 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: room floor, everyone's talking about the priceless jewels stolen at 3 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: the Louver. 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: The Louver. You said it this morning that in a way, 5 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: there's some sort of fascination for the bad guy here, 6 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: isn't it. It does sound like a movie, very brazen. 7 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: Nine point thirty in the morning. The louver was open 8 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: when these priceless things were stolen. I think one of 9 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: Napoleon's wife's crowns, a heavily bejeweled piece, was found on 10 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: the side of the road as they made their getaway, 11 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,959 Speaker 2: so they dropped that on the way past. But at 12 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 2: the time when we've recorded this, no more information about 13 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: who they were were or exactly how they did it. 14 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: It's quite extraordinary. 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: You often wonder about you see those stories, you know, Oceans, 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: Levin and all the Jewels, heis itayan job? All those 17 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: great movies and there is You're always rooting for the 18 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: bad guy who's still still in the Jewels. So in 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: a way, when this actually happens in real life, you think, 20 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: can people pull this stuff off? But it's easier than 21 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: you think, and you remember see than you think. Well, 22 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: these guys, for example, were very professional. But Scott Taylor. 23 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: We've had Scott on the show before and this is 24 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 1: his assessment of the situation. 25 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 3: A couple of quick thoughts because obviously we've just heard 26 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 3: about the robbery that's occurred at the Louver. The Formulut 27 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 3: daylight operation that occurred there illustrates a number of principles 28 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: and things that I share with my clients regularly. People 29 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: with bad intent look at your site a different way 30 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: than you do. Whilst we may look, especially if you're 31 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: a service type area or the different type of structures 32 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: that we have, we look a front front of house 33 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: and sometimes the vulnerabilities back of house, like loading docks 34 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: and whatever. I do walk around with my clients for 35 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: checking their sites, and then I say, okay, let's talk 36 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: about American Ninja Warrior and about for platforming and these 37 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 3: are the things. Now let's do another walk around, and 38 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 3: they always find out new things about their sites. Now, 39 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 3: the thing is, we've had some priceless Napoleonic jewels being 40 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: stolen during this time, and when there's people got on site, 41 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 3: they were within two hundred and fifty meters of the 42 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: Mona Lisa. Now they've taken some I think Emerald starded 43 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 3: crown which was Napoleon's Napoleon's wife and your Princess Eugenia, 44 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 3: Empress Eugenie, that's been stolen as well. And the thing 45 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: is how they got in high visvest basket lift, these 46 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 3: sort of things. They'll use things, especially when there's construction 47 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 3: occurring in and around the site. It's another vulnerability. So 48 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 3: how we do these things, how we manage these certain things, 49 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 3: how we manage intelligence around our sites is important. So 50 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 3: we've got the combination of hardware, software and webware. They're 51 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 3: the things that we need to have in place to 52 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 3: enhance the security and safety of our sites. Now what 53 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: I mean by that the combination of physical struct if 54 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 3: there's construction going on, anytime there's construction going on and 55 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 3: around it increases our vulnerability physical elements, but also from 56 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 3: the people fact that how we're checking, vetting, managing these 57 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 3: items as well, that's an additional strain for the site. 58 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: So these are all things that need to be taken 59 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 3: into account. When we say look at your site, you 60 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 3: need to look at it with a fresh set of eyes, 61 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 3: not what you do currently now where you look at 62 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: your own site. I don't care whether it's a stadium, 63 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 3: whether it's retail, hospitality, healthcare, critical infrastructure, whatever. We need 64 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: to be able to look at our sites with a 65 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 3: fresh set of eyes. Get outside, you have it. We 66 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: get what we call store blindness for some of these 67 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: things that we look at. So we need to be 68 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: able to have a look around outside during the day, 69 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: at night. I mean, this has been a brazen robbery 70 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: during the daytime as well. Look at all different times, 71 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: so we look at our sites differently and then think 72 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: regardless of your own physical ability for jumping and climbing 73 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: whatever else. Think understand as well, it's not just the 74 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 3: primary areas that we have. If people have perception that 75 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: they may be able to get to another air through 76 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: one of these back of house or low maintenance areas, 77 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: that's why we're going to make sure we've got good lighting. 78 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: Good maintenance is so important as well. These principles are 79 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 3: important for anybody to look at their site to protect 80 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: what's important to them. 81 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 2: Who's going to buy these incredibly specific and precious jewels. 82 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got to go into the dark web. 83 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: The dark web. I just want to say this. If 84 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: I turn up tomorrow at war and I'm wearing I 85 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: don't know, say Napoleon's wife's brown, just saying, just saying, 86 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 2: don't say anything. I got it through completely legal means. 87 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 3: Of course. 88 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: You would come in here and it would be worn 89 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: at a jaunty angle. 90 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: And I'll say I've been down to cash converters. I 91 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: saw this in the guitar. 92 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 3: I swapped a skip for this. 93 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: Take. 94 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: Kids, that's said by today, come back to Maa Bamara 95 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 3: Johnsy Room