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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Sam As, you say, are there any questions with tightening

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Speaker 2: restrictions closing borders? Should we in New South Wales be

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Speaker 2: wearing masks? Where are we heading? We welcome our New

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Speaker 2: South Wales Premier, Glad. It's very jiged into the show.

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Speaker 2: Good morning premire, Hi Amanda, Hi jans Hadas.

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Speaker 3: How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm not too bad? Thank you? Not too bad.

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Speaker 2: I went to the Blue Mountains for a couple of

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Speaker 2: days last week, absolutely gorgeous, loved it. Businesses are opening up,

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Speaker 2: but everyone is so so nervous, and all anyone can

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Speaker 2: talk about is do you think we're heading it back

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Speaker 2: into lockdown? And I said, look, next time we talk

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Speaker 2: to the Premier, I will ask her, so are we well?

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Speaker 1: Amanda? The question, the answer to that question, it's really

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Speaker 1: up to us. So if we do the right thing,

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Speaker 1: if we make sure that we're obeying the health advice,

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Speaker 1: we're socially distancing, we're not doing things that we shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be doing, we have every chance of dealing with the

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Speaker 1: current outbreak we have and then continue moving forward. I

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Speaker 1: am worried because too many people that I observe are

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Speaker 1: relaxing too much. They're not respecting the health advice. You

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Speaker 1: have to assume every time you leave the house that

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Speaker 1: everyone you're interacting with has the virus. So if that's

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Speaker 1: the case, what would you be doing. You'd be keeping

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Speaker 1: a distance, You'd be washing your hands frequently'd be hand sanitizing.

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Speaker 1: You can't be making sure that if you're going to

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Speaker 1: a venue to eat or or well, you can't actually mingle,

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Speaker 1: So no mingling. But if people were going into venue

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Speaker 1: and sitting down, were you making sure you weren't sharing cutlery,

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Speaker 1: sharing food? All these things they might seem like little things,

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Speaker 1: but they're the difference between us being able to take

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Speaker 1: control of the spread of the virus or else being

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Speaker 1: in a situation like Victoria where it got out of

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Speaker 1: control and they were forced into lockdown. Now, I don't

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Speaker 1: want us to go down that path, but it's up

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Speaker 1: to us. We have TIT and restrictions when they come

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Speaker 1: into effect from tomorrow. But I'm even appealing to people

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Speaker 1: who live in areas where there has been a breakout

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Speaker 1: of cases to think about what they're doing on the weekend.

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Speaker 1: I'm stressed about what might happen on Friday night. And

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Speaker 1: Saturday night people go out for a bite to eat.

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Speaker 1: That worries me. I mean, yes, we've put restrictions in place,

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Speaker 1: but it only takes one or two people to do

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Speaker 1: the wrong thing and then you have a whole cluster

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Speaker 1: of cases. And we've seen recently how just one case

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Speaker 1: Sydney and now in Brateman's Day as well. So we

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Speaker 1: need to be really careful about our own actions and

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Speaker 1: to be extremely cautious.

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Speaker 3: Do you think we'll get to a stage where we're

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Speaker 3: all having to wear masks and if we don't wear

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Speaker 3: masks will be fined like in Victoria.

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Speaker 1: Well, the health device at the moment from your South Wales,

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Speaker 1: which follows the national health advice, is that you should

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Speaker 1: wear a mask if you feel you're in a situation

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Speaker 1: where social distancing can't be guaranteed. For example, if you're

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Speaker 1: catching a domestic flight, you must wear a mask because

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Speaker 1: you can't guarantee social distancing. You might have someone sitting

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Speaker 1: next to you in the seat, and that's a good

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Speaker 1: example where social distancing can't be guaranteed, so you should

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Speaker 1: wear a mask. But if you're going about your daily business,

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Speaker 1: and you can be assured that you have good social distancing, well,

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Speaker 1: then you're not required to. But again it comes down

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Speaker 1: to personal choice. If you're concerned, you should wear a mask.

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Speaker 1: If you're not concerned, you need to make sure you

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Speaker 1: have social distancing. You need to make sure you sanitize

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Speaker 1: others around you aren't. Otherwise you should be wearing a mask.

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Speaker 1: That's the health advice.

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Speaker 3: And there's great debate about elimination versus suppression. And I

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Speaker 3: was just reading about elimination. We can't actually have elimination

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Speaker 3: because we can't eliminate coronavirus because there's no vaccine. And

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Speaker 3: they did a great vay example about measles, which we

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Speaker 3: eliminated in this country because we have an effective vaccine

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Speaker 3: for it. So the best thing we have right now

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Speaker 3: is suppression. I just don't feel that that message is

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Speaker 3: getting out. People sort of say, oh, it's either elimination

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Speaker 3: or suppression. The case for elimination is long gone. We

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Speaker 3: can't go back to that, can we.

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Speaker 1: And look, Jonesy, you make a good point, and what

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Speaker 1: we're doing in yourself while is having a very strong

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Speaker 1: suppression with me. But the other thing we need to

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Speaker 1: expect is once the virus gets to a critical point

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Speaker 1: of community transmission in the community. We can't pretend we

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Speaker 1: a situation where we do have the potential to deal

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Speaker 1: to move forward in New South Wales, but we can't

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Speaker 1: pretend that once it gets to a tipping point of

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Speaker 1: a certain number of cases, because every one case, imagine

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Speaker 1: where you've been in the last fourteen days. Imagine if

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Speaker 1: you had to write down everywhere you've been in the

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Speaker 1: last fourteen days, and you were at a venda that

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Speaker 1: everywhere they've been in the last fourteen days. But imagine

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Speaker 1: change the numbers, is there were six hundred people there

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Speaker 1: at one night, So imagine six hundred people had to

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Speaker 1: is why are health experts have been really quick in

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Speaker 1: getting out advice about all these different venues. You may

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Speaker 1: have seen a list of the venues now that have

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Speaker 1: become available. That's because someone unwittingly may have been a

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Speaker 1: direct contact of someone with the virus and gone around

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Speaker 1: event or or whatever, and that all amounts to potential

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Speaker 1: outbreaks within their circle. That's why social distancing is so important.

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Speaker 1: You have no idea what telephone call you or your

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Speaker 1: friend might get that day to say, did you were

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Speaker 1: you happening to be at such and such location. Because

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Speaker 1: we've identified someone who was positive at that location, that

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Speaker 1: could be any of us, So all of us have

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Speaker 1: to be on our guard. But as I said, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to understate this at all, but we are

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Speaker 1: definitely at a very critical point in me South Wells.

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Speaker 1: We have the chance if we all do the right thing,

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Speaker 1: to get on top of it, but otherwise it will

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Speaker 1: get away from us because we can't pretend after a

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Speaker 1: certain number of cases that we can control it. And

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Speaker 1: that's what's really important for us.

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Speaker 3: The power is in your hands.

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Speaker 1: There's eight million of us. Each of us has the

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Speaker 1: power to do the right thing, and I worry again

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Speaker 1: quiet weekend, do things around your home or around your

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Speaker 1: risky behavior, just until we get through this spike of

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Speaker 1: the next few weeks. And we also appreciate that what

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Speaker 1: residents who may have unwittingly had the virus with them,

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Speaker 1: and that could be going back a month way before

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Speaker 1: we knew there was a serious problem in Melbourne. So

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Speaker 1: that's why we're at this critical point. But I want

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Speaker 1: to thank everybody who's doing the right thing. But there's

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Speaker 1: always a minority that, you know, try and think that

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Speaker 1: they're above the law, or that they're immune or immortal.

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Speaker 1: None of us are. Unfortunately, there's two people in intensive

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Speaker 1: of them is in their thirties. So even though we

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Speaker 1: none of us know how our body is going to react.

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Speaker 1: We might be feeling fine and help in fish, but

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Speaker 1: we don't know how our own body will react if

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Speaker 1: we happen to get the virus. So be careful everyone.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, well, thank you glad, It's always great to talk

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Speaker 3: to you.

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Speaker 1: Look after yourself, you too, Thanks guys, and thanks for

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Speaker 1: giving the message out. I really appreciate you giving me

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to do that this morning. And take care.

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Speaker 3: Thank you glad. Us proticularly in there, joins the and Amanda.

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Speaker 1: Good morning. At one point, se