Speaker 1: Come on.
Speaker 2: Illo everyone.
Speaker 1: Happy Monday, Australia.
Speaker 3: Happy Monday, everybody.
Speaker 4: How I'm happy to be here because I am in
Speaker 4: a bit of trouble in my house at the moment.
Speaker 3: You guys know how.
Speaker 4: I recently got a cat, Raspberry.
Speaker 2: Play the audio ready, that's Laura's child.
Speaker 4: By the way, My children loved the cat, and I
Speaker 4: still stand by the fact that the cat was a
Speaker 4: good idea. But I'm me and the kids are the
Speaker 4: only one who likes it because my mother in law,
Speaker 4: who lives with me, and my husband both hate it
Speaker 4: and they haven't come around. And it's not working out
Speaker 4: very well for me or the cat because this morning
Speaker 4: she did a dump in my mother in law's bedroom
Speaker 4: underneath her desk and it had been sitting there for hours.
Speaker 3: I just on the carpet.
Speaker 5: I just don't get cats, and I don't dislike them,
Speaker 5: but I don't understand them. They don't give you the
Speaker 5: love and affection you need. Nothing offensive of Raspberry, but
Speaker 5: like in general, like a dog would be so happy
Speaker 5: to see you.
Speaker 3: Cats, yeah, don't care.
Speaker 1: They go everywhere.
Speaker 2: If you've got a cat or a dog, it tells
Speaker 2: you so much about your psyche. Britt You and I
Speaker 2: love dogs because we're happy, go lucky. We're like, oh
Speaker 2: the fun.
Speaker 3: Like what am I? I've got a dog and a
Speaker 3: cat and they're best friends.
Speaker 1: You let me get there. I was going to say,
Speaker 1: you're the best of both.
Speaker 4: Word, thank you. I appreciate that. Good dig up. No, look, Raspberry,
Speaker 4: she's like a real street cat. She was found in
Speaker 4: a bus stop and now she's but she's just like
Speaker 4: she's still got like street vibes. She'll like you, furage
Speaker 4: around trying to find food. I'm like, babe, you live
Speaker 4: in a nice house. You're doing okay? She winder at
Speaker 4: the bus stop? Did you just pull up? We caught
Speaker 4: it from a pound. But she's she's street cat vibes.
Speaker 4: And now she sits in the bedroom street cat style.
Speaker 5: And now Matt's going mate told you though, Yeah, anyway.
Speaker 2: Blither you are the cat. Hey, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: We got pick up, put down. Next, all the big
Speaker 2: stories from the weekend. Let me tell you you had
Speaker 2: coffee with your friends this weekend, or lunch or drinks.
Speaker 2: I guarantee you the topics were about to bring up.
Speaker 2: Are the topics that you and your friends were talking about.
Speaker 4: I was about to say, we'll probably talk about that,
Speaker 4: because that's about as exciting as no.
Speaker 2: No pick up, put down of the big stories that
Speaker 2: the world are discussing, and you two decide whether or
Speaker 2: not we carry them onto the week. So that is
Speaker 2: next to start the pick up for your Monday. Welcome everyone.
Speaker 2: We need to do this. It's one of our show favorites.
Speaker 1: Like gentlemen, if you can't.
Speaker 2: All the big discussion points, all the big articles, the
Speaker 2: news headlines that everyone was talking about this weekend, I
Speaker 2: bring to you girls, and you decide whether or not
Speaker 2: we pick it up and we carry it on into
Speaker 2: the week, or we put it down and we just
Speaker 2: never talk of it again.
Speaker 3: How big would you say these discussion points.
Speaker 1: Are, Mitch, I've never been a littler. I actually have
Speaker 1: read forward. There's not much going on in the news.
Speaker 4: I mean, look, you pick these. We don't pick these,
Speaker 4: so we're not responsible.
Speaker 1: For how the quality.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I love the quality. I love these low
Speaker 3: hitting and hanging fruits.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's because it's what the people are talking about.
Speaker 2: We don't want to talk about the big it's the
Speaker 2: scary things in the world. These are the little news
Speaker 2: stories you're hear enough of the bad. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: Let me let me get your thoughts on this.
Speaker 4: Pick up.
Speaker 2: Put down dogs in winter wearing puffer vests.
Speaker 3: Pick it up. I mean, I have a three legged dogs.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put it down because he can't wear anything
Speaker 4: that has four holes because it always makes him fall over.
Speaker 5: I think you could just sew one together and then
Speaker 5: have three three holes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I have to sew, and I don't sew,
Speaker 3: so that that part.
Speaker 1: Did he come with three legs or did you?
Speaker 4: He wasn't born with three legs. He got hit by
Speaker 4: car when he was a puppy. But so as long
Speaker 4: as I've had him, he's had three legs.
Speaker 5: I think it's the cutest thing in the world. And
Speaker 5: also you want to keep your pet warm, especially if
Speaker 5: they've got short hair.
Speaker 3: So yess have.
Speaker 2: To admit they're trending on tiktog. Some look good, but
Speaker 2: the little cha hours in like a little puffer kind
Speaker 2: of look like a little.
Speaker 5: Twistyilah has like my dog Delilah, she has like full
Speaker 5: on woolen corduroy, like with hoods and stuff that she's
Speaker 5: got like really nice jump and stuff.
Speaker 4: I know, the one you're talking about Mitch and the
Speaker 4: chihuahuas in puffer vest looks like gay, they look like
Speaker 4: little gangsters.
Speaker 2: They do pick up or put down silent discos.
Speaker 3: What put it down? I'm going to pick it up
Speaker 3: because I know.
Speaker 4: They look stupid, but the people doing them look like
Speaker 4: they're having a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: I have done one. Is it a lot of fun?
Speaker 3: Hated it?
Speaker 1: Can you explain how they never?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 5: Silent disco is you just put your own headphones on,
Speaker 5: link to the music. Everyone has headphones on, so it
Speaker 5: is literally if you walked into that room, you look
Speaker 5: at people that are raving or doing whatever they're doing,
Speaker 5: but instead silent. I just feel awkward. I don't I
Speaker 5: didn't like it at all, and I don't ever want
Speaker 5: to do it again.
Speaker 1: Who did you go with? Why did you do it?
Speaker 5: I did it on I'm a celebrity, Get me out
Speaker 5: of here.
Speaker 3: I did vision. That is more awkward when you know
Speaker 3: everyone's watching you.
Speaker 4: I think the whole point of a silent disco is
Speaker 4: that you're supposed to just go in and like, get
Speaker 4: rid of all your inhibitions and enjoy it.
Speaker 3: But when you know the world is watching your dance,
Speaker 3: it's a bit dumb. Nah, I didn't like it. Put
Speaker 3: it down, Oh all right, but I don't feel that
Speaker 3: passionate about it. But I think I think it's cute.
Speaker 2: Let people live, all right, pick up and putting down.
Speaker 2: Flying to Turkey to get veneers.
Speaker 3: Up, pick it up? Really, you let people live and
Speaker 3: it's cheap. Contemplating it rich.
Speaker 4: No, we're talking about your business class ticket the other day.
Speaker 3: So I was wondering whether or not that was two Turkey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to get the tits teeth in that.
Speaker 3: Where did this question come from?
Speaker 1: Well, it's because I was looking into hair transplants in Turkey.
Speaker 1: I don't need one. It will hair is so I know,
Speaker 1: but it's prevented.
Speaker 4: Well, you're looking into it for me, because if anyone
Speaker 4: needs a hair transplant out of it the three of.
Speaker 3: Us, it's me. I've got happiness, hair patchwork done right.
Speaker 2: Well, you can go to Turkey and get it cheap.
Speaker 2: Then I was looking you can get like on TikTok.
Speaker 2: They're selling packages. They fly you to Turkey business class.
Speaker 2: It's all included in the one price. They get car transfers,
Speaker 2: you get hotel rooms, you get the dental treatment.
Speaker 1: I think just sounds enticing. It's the place to go.
Speaker 5: Basically, don't quote me on this, but it's like the
Speaker 5: hub of plastic surgery. They do everything there and supposedly
Speaker 5: they're really really good at it.
Speaker 3: Do you come out looking like you've got tic TACs?
Speaker 3: Or is it like quiet?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 4: Has any investigated the quality of the vinneers, because that
Speaker 4: would really indicate whether we should pick this up or
Speaker 4: put it down.
Speaker 5: Currently, it's where a lot of the UK reality TV
Speaker 5: people and footballers go. They all go to Turkey in
Speaker 5: their off break.
Speaker 1: Yeah, married at First Sight contestants too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a holiday in a new face, go for it.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to young like, I'm not gonna yucky yum.
Speaker 1: Don't yuki yuam, don't yucky yum. If you want to
Speaker 1: go to Turkey, gobble gobble, do what you are all right?
Speaker 1: Next show, what's going on with your kids?
Speaker 4: Look, Marley has learned a very choice new word. I
Speaker 4: blame daycare. It's a fantastic daycare, so hopefully no one's listening,
Speaker 4: but I do blame the other children at daycare for
Speaker 4: the very creative words that my child has brought home.
Speaker 5: You always blame someone else, right, Yeah, Look, I need
Speaker 5: some advice on it.
Speaker 3: It's coming up next there.
Speaker 1: We will be the judge after this on the pickup.
Speaker 4: So my little girl, mally May, she's four years old now,
Speaker 4: she was sitting there the other morning. I was getting ready.
Speaker 4: He'r ready for daycare and she goes, hey, Mummy, I
Speaker 4: learned something at daycare.
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, yeah, what'd you learn?
Speaker 4: And she goes, I learned the F word and I
Speaker 4: was like, oh, it's in frog, Well that's what. And
Speaker 4: then she goes and I learned the H word and
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, few, Okay, she just actually learned
Speaker 4: a new word. And I was like, what's the word
Speaker 4: that you learned, sweetie? And she and then her little
Speaker 4: sister who's two's next to our three. Sorry, Laula's there,
Speaker 4: and she goes, I learn and I was like, sorry,
Speaker 4: you learned what said? And then she goes, oh, she goes,
Speaker 4: but I learned all the others. I learned F that
Speaker 4: and F you, and and she's got every plural of
Speaker 4: the F, every single one.
Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, please stop saying that in
Speaker 3: front of your little sister. I don't know where she
Speaker 3: learned that from, just part of the curriculum.
Speaker 4: I don't reckon the teacher set her down to learn
Speaker 4: the teacher this one, no, because you know, like little kids,
Speaker 4: they're all like they're talking amongst themselves and they all
Speaker 4: like they learned something and then but it was the
Speaker 4: complexities of it.
Speaker 3: It was the knowing every variation of the F word. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like d so you yeah, get off.
Speaker 4: Anyway, So I took her aside and I was like,
Speaker 4: and I was like, Marley, where did you learn this.
Speaker 4: That's a really naughty word. We've never had the adult
Speaker 4: word conversation. We've never had to so I was like
Speaker 4: that they're adult words, adults are allowed to use them,
Speaker 4: but they're naughty words. And we call them red words
Speaker 4: and green words. Anyway, that's a red word parenting color blind. Anyway,
Speaker 4: she she said, it'll be scared when you get driving.
Speaker 1: She's like, I can't look at that.
Speaker 3: She can't go to stop sign.
Speaker 4: No, so she she anyway, she added this little boy daycare,
Speaker 4: and she.
Speaker 3: Was like, oh, there's this little boy. She rated him out.
Speaker 4: Yeah she well, yeah she was because I don't think
Speaker 4: she realized how naughty it was. But anyway, she said
Speaker 4: his name and then she said he said it. He
Speaker 4: taught me all the words, and he says it to
Speaker 4: me whenever the teachers aren't looking. Oh he's a naughty boy,
Speaker 4: so he's been doing it behind the teacher's back. Okay,
Speaker 4: this is my question. Now should I call the daycare?
Speaker 4: Should I be telling the teacher? Or is that overbearing?
Speaker 3: Am I being like?
Speaker 4: Just because kids are going to do this stuff anyway
Speaker 4: right at some point?
Speaker 5: But I think it's important that that little boy's family
Speaker 5: know in case they don't know.
Speaker 3: I think I would be one call up helplar out
Speaker 3: would you do it?
Speaker 4: Would you call the daycare and do in a four
Speaker 4: year old? Or did you just let it slide and
Speaker 4: manage your own child?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well people are already calling, so I mean, clearly, Mum's
Speaker 2: and cars, you've really caused a.
Speaker 4: Revolution one hundred per But it's definitely no revolution. But
Speaker 4: it's just this is the stuff that you've got to
Speaker 4: deal with. At some point, your kid starts doing things
Speaker 4: and saying things.
Speaker 1: Catherine, what should the law do? Should you be a
Speaker 1: nark or should you let it go?
Speaker 5: Nori?
Speaker 6: You so I believe she should if it go if
Speaker 6: something goes against her parenting style, definitely act on it.
Speaker 6: So my kids. You're a lot older, and I remember
Speaker 6: my kids hearing different things at school, and I was
Speaker 6: wasn't an annoying parent, but I did go in and say, hey, listen,
Speaker 6: this kid is telling my kid. We'll teach my kid
Speaker 6: how to they do whatever, this, that, whatever. But yeah, no,
Speaker 6: so I've I purely recken. I purely believe go in
Speaker 6: and go and say something if that means it's going
Speaker 6: to make you feel better than going to school, not
Speaker 6: sort of coming home returning a little potty mouth.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but then doesn't the kid turn around and say
Speaker 4: and say, oh, your.
Speaker 2: Mum, guess what happens after that your kid turns up
Speaker 2: to school if they get shived like a kid, a
Speaker 2: kid's situation they.
Speaker 4: Do about like creating a situation where then she gets
Speaker 4: bully because I do.
Speaker 2: Sam has called let's let's get the polls going. Let's
Speaker 2: get a wide variety of people talk to us. What
Speaker 2: do you think Laura should do?
Speaker 6: I think it's like, it's a moment to spend with
Speaker 6: your kids, but I don't think it's worth bringing it.
Speaker 3: Up with a childcare.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, that kids probably got
Speaker 1: it from their parents and they're not going to be
Speaker 1: able to do anything with a parent. Thank you. Okay,
Speaker 1: last one, let's let's get Lara.
Speaker 3: What should Laura do in this situreaker.
Speaker 7: Look, it's something that she gets insignificant, but I think
Speaker 7: she needs to call the school and she really needs
Speaker 7: to get onto those parents so that they can deal
Speaker 7: with the issue. And that kid isn't teaching other kids
Speaker 7: to swear words.
Speaker 4: I'm seeing a very recurrent theme here though. Every single
Speaker 4: female has said call the school, and every single male,
Speaker 4: including my husband's like just let it go.
Speaker 1: As women from.
Speaker 2: Mars all right back after this on the pickup, I
Speaker 2: was talking about off air with you guys. Ellen degenerous.
Speaker 2: She's coming back. She's announcing starting next week, she's going
Speaker 2: on tour. She's got a brand new comedy special. Hasn't
Speaker 2: done comedy in a long time. I think she had
Speaker 2: the last Netflix special she did with about six years ago.
Speaker 2: But then, of course this is happening after she was
Speaker 2: famously canceled.
Speaker 3: Well, she's been very quiet for a while now, hasn't
Speaker 3: she very quiet?
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was very heavily canceled, very publicly. She didn't
Speaker 2: lose her talk show. She chose to step down from
Speaker 2: her talk show and resign and retire.
Speaker 5: I think that that is a push to resign, but
Speaker 5: they leave it in their hands. Hey, we're not going
Speaker 5: to keep your show anymore, but you need to make
Speaker 5: the choice that it's yours if you want that public commuch,
Speaker 5: that's what I reckon.
Speaker 4: I didn't realize that so much time has passed it.
Speaker 4: I mean, you're more across this than what we are mitsh.
Speaker 4: Do you remember what it was that Ellen DeGeneres was
Speaker 4: like canceled for in the first place.
Speaker 1: It was a toxic work environment.
Speaker 2: It was questionable friendships, hanging out with the leach, she
Speaker 2: was hanging out with the bushes, and she was going
Speaker 2: to these big events, big parties, and I didn't align
Speaker 2: with her brand obviously.
Speaker 1: Her tagline was be nice to one.
Speaker 3: To Yeah, it's all about kindness every.
Speaker 2: Show and then and then she was a bully behind
Speaker 2: the scenes to her staff members.
Speaker 5: It was allegations sexual misconduct, bullying, racism, like, there were
Speaker 5: a lot of pretty severe allegation.
Speaker 1: She fostered that environment at her business, right, the Ellen Show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I mean, look, I think that this sparked
Speaker 4: a bigger conversation for us, right, and this is around,
Speaker 4: like we've seen it time and time again, people like
Speaker 4: Christy Tagan get canceled. Ellen DeGeneres is being canceled. Can
Speaker 4: celebrities make her comeback from being canceled? And should they
Speaker 4: be allowed to make a comeback from being canceled? And
Speaker 4: I think the interesting part about this is that I
Speaker 4: think that there is a very different benchmark for what
Speaker 4: people get canceled for. And like Ellen being done for
Speaker 4: being a bully to her staffers. I'm not saying that's
Speaker 4: that's okay, obviously it's terrible. But then you have people
Speaker 4: like Chris Brown who punched Rihanna in the face, and
Speaker 4: he's still not canceled. We're still buying his music, He's
Speaker 4: still around with a job, and people are still subscribed
Speaker 4: to his stuff.
Speaker 5: But the thing I think is really important here and
Speaker 5: this is where people just like read a headline or
Speaker 5: whatever someone says and run with it and into something
Speaker 5: it might not be. Surrounding the allegations with Ellen de Generes,
Speaker 5: a lot of those allegations were about her show in general,
Speaker 5: and not all of them are about her, So a
Speaker 5: lot of them were saying at the hands of executive
Speaker 5: producers that worked at the Ellen DeGeneres Show, which, like,
Speaker 5: let's be real, I reckon eighty percent of the stuff
Speaker 5: that goes on. It shows that big networks that big,
Speaker 5: that the head honcho being Ellen Degeneress, doesn't have any
Speaker 5: idea what executive producers are doing.
Speaker 4: Even when you said that Britain, you were like the
Speaker 4: sexual misconduct, I was like, she didn't do section. That
Speaker 4: wasn't her, that was who worked in her brand. But
Speaker 4: the problem is is that the Ellen DeGeneres Show is
Speaker 4: all like the whole thing is linked under her brand,
Speaker 4: it's her namesake.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at a big picture, right Like even in
Speaker 2: the last month, we've seen Kevin Spacey space he came out,
Speaker 2: he was on Peers Morgan in the UK, he was
Speaker 2: on a big podcast, Lex Friedman trying to exonerate himself
Speaker 2: from the alleged crimes that he committed.
Speaker 1: But it's completely different. You can't compare him to Ellen.
Speaker 3: I don't think no, But that's what I mean.
Speaker 4: That's why I'm like, I think that there's a different
Speaker 4: benchmark for the things that people do. I think that
Speaker 4: there are some things like Bill Crosby, there's like sexual
Speaker 4: totally horrible allegations that you can never ever come back
Speaker 4: from and that you shouldn't we shouldn't be platforming these
Speaker 4: people as celebrities.
Speaker 3: And then there are some celebrities.
Speaker 4: That get canceled because they were mean, or they were bullies,
Speaker 4: or they behaved in a way that wasn't congruent with
Speaker 4: their brand, which I understand why the public gets angry,
Speaker 4: but I think the issue with being canceled means that
Speaker 4: we don't have any acceptance for people to be sorry,
Speaker 4: to learn lessons to grow as humans, to do better.
Speaker 4: And I think in this instance, at least Ellen DeGeneres
Speaker 4: gets an opportunity to come back and be like, hey,
Speaker 4: I've wanted my lessons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to watch and see what she's got
Speaker 1: to say.
Speaker 5: I don't believe in cancelation unless it's something super super
Speaker 5: severe like physical violence or sexual assault or cross I
Speaker 5: tell him, yeah, I don't even need to specify. You
Speaker 5: all listening know what we're talking about about things that
Speaker 5: deserve cancelation. We are in a society now where when
Speaker 5: we don't agree with something or someone, we put them
Speaker 5: in a box and that is it. They've made mistake,
Speaker 5: which spoiler, we're all human we're all gonna make mistakes,
Speaker 5: but not even allowing someone like I really want to
Speaker 5: see Ellen.
Speaker 3: I want to see what she says.
Speaker 5: I want to see how she addresses it because I
Speaker 5: think that plays a big part in it as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I do.
Speaker 4: And the last thing I want to say on this
Speaker 4: is I also think sometimes the punishment doesn't fit the
Speaker 4: crime she has been. She lost a job, she's lost
Speaker 4: all her accolades for four years, But four years I
Speaker 4: think that that punishment is enough for the crime that
Speaker 4: she committed of being a bit of a bully in
Speaker 4: the workplace. Maybe this is like her redemption arc and
Speaker 4: she's allowed to have.
Speaker 3: Another story now.
Speaker 2: But the flip side, we don't know what actually went
Speaker 2: on backstage at the show. What about the people that
Speaker 2: were horrifically bullied now have to sit there and watch
Speaker 2: her come on and tell her side of the story,
Speaker 2: which more people listen to than their's, And no one's
Speaker 2: going to listen to the victim' story. She gets up
Speaker 2: there on a Netflix special, probably getting paid ten million
Speaker 2: dollars to share a side of the story that she's
Speaker 2: allowed to tell because she's a celebrity. But then people
Speaker 2: who are going to therapy because if she was bullied
Speaker 2: in the hallways at the show.
Speaker 5: No that I disagree with that, Mitch. When you say
Speaker 5: no one listens to the victims, everyone's listened to her.
Speaker 5: It's the opposite. No one's listened to her. She has
Speaker 5: been punished because people have listened to the victims, like
Speaker 5: people one hundred percent listened to the people that came forward.
Speaker 5: That's why her show was canceled, as why we haven't
Speaker 5: seen her for four years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then there's a life cycle on a cancelation
Speaker 2: because ultimately we're going back, We're going back to the celebrity,
Speaker 2: and no one cares about the victims.
Speaker 1: Now, I'd argue that.
Speaker 2: No one even, no one even would remember the story
Speaker 2: or the All we remember is the headline cancelation.
Speaker 3: If someone makes a mistake, they don't get a second chance.
Speaker 1: No, absolutely not. No, that's what I'm saying. I'm more
Speaker 1: mean that, you know.
Speaker 2: I think it's a nuance just it's a nuanced topic
Speaker 2: and there's a lot to it.
Speaker 4: And I don't think that there is one rule for
Speaker 4: each celebrity. I think that there are different situations where
Speaker 4: different rules apply.
Speaker 3: It depends on what was done.
Speaker 4: But I think, you know, I do sort of stand
Speaker 4: by this that women have to do a lot less
Speaker 4: to be canceled than what men do. Completely yeah, and
Speaker 4: I think that that's a whole other story to unpack.
Speaker 1: Yeah, another day, maybe tomorrow.
Speaker 3: We're talking about cancelation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or a story about a dog that got trapped
Speaker 1: in the kettle.