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Speaker 1: It is time for the week that was and joining

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Speaker 1: who is indeed the Member for Brakling and also the

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Speaker 1: opposition spokesperson for Territory Families, Essential Services and a few

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Speaker 1: other things.

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Speaker 2: How are you, good morning, Katie. Good to be back

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Speaker 2: up here again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, great to have you in the studio.

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Speaker 1: And then we've got well our rural representative, the Independent

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Speaker 1: Member for for gord Kesiopuric.

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Speaker 3: Good morning to.

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Speaker 4: You, morning Caddy, morning bush people.

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Speaker 1: And then representing the Northern suburbs, we have got Nari

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Speaker 1: Kis who.

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Speaker 3: Is indeed her don't let her get started, Nari, she is.

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Speaker 1: Indeed the Minister for International Education, Minister for Multicultural Affairs

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Speaker 1: and various other portfolios as well.

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Speaker 3: First time on the week that was. Good to have

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Speaker 3: you in here, Thanks for having me, Kate, lovely to

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Speaker 3: have you on the show.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: There is honestly so much to discuss this morning.

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Speaker 1: It's been a massive week in so many ways, and

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Speaker 1: breaking news over the course of yesterday and over nine

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Speaker 1: is that two Northern Territory Police officers have been charged

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Speaker 1: facing allegations of perverting the course of justice. Two of

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Speaker 1: the men, a forty seven year old at a forty

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Speaker 1: six year old, are now under investigation by Crime Command.

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Speaker 1: That's what Northern Territory Police have said in a statement.

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Speaker 1: The forty seven year old man was arrested yesterday morning.

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Speaker 1: Now Northern Territory Police said that he was expected to

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Speaker 1: be charged with unlawfully accessing data, disclosing confidential information, conspiracy

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Speaker 1: other crimes. He does remain in custody and it's understood

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory Police will provide more information on this today.

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Speaker 1: The forty six year old is going to face the

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Speaker 1: the moment when it comes to the Northern Territory Police

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Speaker 1: Force structure.

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Speaker 4: I've said this before on this show, Katie.

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Speaker 5: I see and I hear that there are some serious

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Speaker 5: that have been leveled at these fellows tells me that

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Speaker 5: perhaps they were trying to Perhaps I shouldn't say, I

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's important to know these are all alleged defenses.

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Speaker 2: I think the noise is really, you know, gathering. The

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Speaker 2: CLP and the Northern Territory Police Association have been calling

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Speaker 2: for an inquiry and Katie, I mean with this latest

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Speaker 2: it might just take you.

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Speaker 1: Across very quickly to have a bit of a Listen

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Speaker 1: to what Paul mceue, the president of the Police Association,

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Now, if you missed what Paul mceue

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Speaker 6: First and foremost, I need a government that's willing to

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Speaker 6: we want to look very very closely at why. And

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Speaker 6: then thirdly, of course we've got a very competitive market.

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Speaker 6: You're not going to offer a decent pay deal to

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Speaker 1: So that was the Police Association President Paul mcew on

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Speaker 2: So it's so important in this process. And Paul mcew

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Speaker 2: you can sort that issue out. Right now, we have

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Speaker 2: They do. They're completely saying nothing to see here, We

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Speaker 2: There needs to be an inquiry, and that's why we're

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Speaker 5: They can't, Katie, they can't continue to ignore the calls

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Speaker 5: for a review an inquiry, whichever way you want to.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'd probably even go so fast to say

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Speaker 4: But the government can't keep dismissing.

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Speaker 5: The calls for an inquiry, a review, an in debt

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that the point.

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Speaker 4: Here anything that's well.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right, and it's not us sort of you know,

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Speaker 1: not only Paul mckue, the president, but also throughout that survey. Nai,

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Speaker 1: you know, what is what is the government's plan here?

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Speaker 1: Because there's been so much discussion this week and we've

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Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you, Katie. So Kate Warden did pick up

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Speaker 3: We need to work out the best path forward because

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Speaker 1: There doesn't seem to be a stepping up of the

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Speaker 1: but is that being communicated far and wide. And it's

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, and I think you hit the nail on the

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Speaker 7: head there, Katie. A lot of this comes down to communication.

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Speaker 7: So as you understand, a lot of work is being

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Speaker 7: to talk between the CEOs. It's really great that she

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Speaker 7: to take in the community concerns, which is what we're doing.

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Speaker 7: This is having the conversations right across the Northern Territory government,

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Speaker 7: And you're right, it's making sure that that is communicated

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Speaker 1: Say, I can't see the harm in there being a

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Speaker 5: Parliamentary inquiry and the government, which includes Nayri, should know this.

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Speaker 5: When you point a select committee or it's even another

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Speaker 4: It's not government.

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Speaker 5: The committee will come up with the report and recommendations.

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Speaker 5: Ultimately it's up to the government of the day whether

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Speaker 5: So it's not a scary beast. It's actually exceptionally useful

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Speaker 5: these things. Well, yes, they may find out all those things,

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Speaker 4: It's not as.

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Speaker 5: If all this sort of rubbish is going to get

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Speaker 4: There actually will be some very positive.

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Speaker 5: Things that can come out of it and learning experiences,

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Speaker 4: Through what the Northern terretory is going through at the moment.

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Speaker 5: It's actually a very positive finger Select committee and I

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Speaker 4: It through their thick skulls. It is a positive thing

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Speaker 2: The Northern Territory Police Force is one of our oldest

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Speaker 2: important right now that we all acknowledge the last couple

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Speaker 2: of years have been incredibly tough. There have been police

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Speaker 3: And the thing that I.

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Speaker 1: Sort of can't wrap my head around, and I know

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Speaker 1: We are hearing what you're saying, and we've got you know,

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Speaker 5: They're increasing their they're not surveillance, but they've had to

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Speaker 7: That's right, And you know, I really take my hat

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Speaker 7: Josh Bergin to attend from start to finish and to

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Speaker 7: listen to the concerns from my electorate, which I would

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Speaker 7: hazard a guess to say, Josh, unlike the ones that

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Speaker 7: you hear in yours. But what I took out of

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Speaker 7: that group is there is about sixty five people all up,

446
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Speaker 7: Katie and the majority were providing the solutions, the localized responses,

447
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Speaker 7: letting us know as government and non not for profit

448
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Speaker 7: service providers in the area, what works and what isn't working.

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Speaker 7: And that was a really good reality check. It was

450
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Speaker 7: really great to have Lee and Kate and the CEO

451
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Speaker 7: of Yearly Housing as the facilitator, Michael Rodamo, the CEO

452
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Speaker 7: of Larochie a Nation talking about day and night patrols,

453
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Speaker 7: funding return to country. And what's very clear and evident

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Speaker 7: Katie is you know, any crime anywhere, for any territory

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Speaker 7: and is absolutely not acceptable. And when I heard about

456
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Speaker 7: that young fellow at Casharina, that really break my heart.

457
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Speaker 7: That is not fair and it should never happen to anyone.

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Speaker 7: There needs to be those consequences in place, but we

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Speaker 7: need to make sure that those consequences are going to

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Speaker 7: support or work for the entire community. Locking a child

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Speaker 7: up without understanding what drove them to that, and Josh

462
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Speaker 7: said that quite clearly, we need to understand what leads

463
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Speaker 7: people to their behavior and make sure we're tackling that appropriately.

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Speaker 3: But at the moment it doesn't seem like we are.

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Speaker 1: Like. This is where I think the whole system is

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Speaker 1: a bit broken. Is that you know, we've then got

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Speaker 1: reports obviously with you know, out of dawn Dale, the

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory Bar Association's form of President, John Lawrence, saying

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Speaker 1: that the allegations that young Aboriginal children are being mistreated

470
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Speaker 1: or neglected are not new, but what is new is

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Speaker 1: how it shows the gross breaches in the laws. So

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Speaker 1: there are calls for the Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi to

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Speaker 1: intervene and shut down don Dale Detention Center after allegations

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Speaker 1: that independent observers are not showing up as regularly as

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Speaker 1: planned and claims that blood's been smeared across cells and

476
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Speaker 1: left for several hours. Now, you know, I think the

477
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Speaker 1: thing that this report made me think when I heard

478
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Speaker 1: it on the ABC and then saw it covered you know,

479
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Speaker 1: across the board, is that if we're not like, if

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Speaker 1: we're not getting it right when these young people then

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Speaker 1: go into don Dale, how are we expecting to ever

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Speaker 1: get this issue any better?

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Speaker 3: Like, you don't go into don Dale for fun?

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Speaker 1: Well, no, that's the thing, but you're not, Like, you've

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Speaker 1: got to be in a pretty serious situation to be

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Speaker 1: sent to don Dale. Like, let's be honest, into the line,

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Speaker 1: it's that's exactly right, it's it's very often the last

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Speaker 1: possible option. So then when they go in there, if

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Speaker 1: there are not programs and not ways that we're rehabilitating

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Speaker 1: young people so they come out better humans rather than

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Speaker 1: better offenders, how can we expect that this situation is

492
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Speaker 1: ever going to get better? But how can we leave

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Speaker 1: Territorians just hanging at this point where you know, somebody

494
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Speaker 1: gets belted by young kids, you get your head stomped on,

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Speaker 1: and what happens?

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Speaker 3: This is a consequence.

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Speaker 2: This is exactly the thing Katie and our labor listing,

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Speaker 2: and this is a thing thri you talk about that

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Speaker 2: group at Malac. One of the things I heard loud

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Speaker 2: and clear was they wanted a reintroduction of the two

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Speaker 2: kilometer law. So a labour now going to bring that

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Speaker 2: back after listening to the community and their frustrations that

503
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Speaker 2: people are drinking in their local parks, and police feel

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Speaker 2: like there's very little they can do.

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Speaker 7: So the two kilometer law still exists. There are police

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Speaker 7: powers for them to be able to tip out alcohol.

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Speaker 7: What we're looking at, Josh, though, is not just to

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Speaker 7: throw everybody in jail for drinking in the public parks.

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Speaker 7: It is trying to support people who are often vulnerable

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Speaker 7: and turning to those substances at dangerous degrees and making

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Speaker 7: sure that we can support them to get away from

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Speaker 7: that lifestyle.

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Speaker 3: I'm so confused by this.

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Speaker 1: The two kilometer rules still in place, because if it is,

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Speaker 1: why people still drinking in.

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Speaker 2: Public, Because it's no longer an offense, so police can

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Speaker 2: literally and this was something that the police that were

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Speaker 2: at the meeting spoke about. You can go someone's drinking

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Speaker 2: a can of beer, tip that out. They then go

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Speaker 2: over to their motive vehicle once the police have left,

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Speaker 2: and grab another can out of their car and continue drinking.

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Speaker 2: So it's no longer an offense to drink in public,

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Speaker 2: so police can go tip out that can leave they've

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Speaker 2: done their job, but if it was an offense, they

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Speaker 2: can then go to that person. This is an offense

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Speaker 2: for drinking in public. There would then be more powers

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Speaker 2: provided to that police office to possibly search our vehicle. Currently,

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Speaker 2: as it stands, there's very little powers that police have

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Speaker 2: when they come across someone drinking in a park.

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Speaker 7: So I've had those conversations as the local member and

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Speaker 7: will continue to push for the review of that two

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Speaker 7: kilometer law. So thanks for asking that, Josh. It's something

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Speaker 7: that came through very clearly, not just in the Kurama electorate,

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Speaker 7: and that's just an example of one of the localized

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Speaker 7: solutions that the Community Voice Group by bringing to the forefront.

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Speaker 1: Look, we're going to take a really short break. You

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Speaker 1: are listening to Mix one O four nine's three sixty.

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Speaker 1: There is a lot still to cover off this morning,

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Speaker 1: including that by election that happened last weekend. As I said,

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Speaker 1: there's been a lot to cover off on this week,

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Speaker 1: but we kicked the week off, of course with the

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Speaker 1: results from the by election. I think everybody knows that

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Speaker 1: I love a good election, and love a good by

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Speaker 1: election out exactly, love sports going on, who's got the

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Speaker 1: most who can wave on the most corners.

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Speaker 5: Wave on the most corners, who can get away the

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Speaker 5: most sausages and pizzas on corner?

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Speaker 1: Exactly? Well, and look, it was an incredibly interesting race.

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Speaker 1: I think you'd have to say, we know that. The

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Speaker 1: Chief Minister declared that the constituents of Fanny Bay have

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Speaker 1: been heard. They want a government that backs them and

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Speaker 1: only Labor can do that. Meanwhile, the opposition leader Leofanocchiaro

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Speaker 1: declared the result a blow to Labor and a boost

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Speaker 1: for the opposition, saying it's a good night for the

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Speaker 1: COLP and it's a good night for Territorians who've clearly

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Speaker 1: sent Labor a message strong.

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Speaker 3: Well, and I think this is the.

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Speaker 1: Big point that needs to be made, is that you know,

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Speaker 1: no matter how how people want to spinish on first preferences,

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Speaker 1: the Country Liberal Party has been Hosking did get ahead

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Speaker 1: forty two.

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Speaker 2: Three hundred and ninety one well.

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Speaker 1: And then and then of course Labor, Yeah, primary votes

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Speaker 1: one thy three hundred, I had ninety four?

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Speaker 3: Is it ninety one?

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Speaker 2: I'm just looking at the updated story. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then the ALP, as I understand it, Oney eighty

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Speaker 1: nine primary votes and the Greens six hundred and fifty.

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Speaker 1: So certainly the Greens picked up a swing towards them

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Speaker 1: as well, but there was a swing away from Labor

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Speaker 1: no matter how you look at it, wasn't there.

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Speaker 7: N Ari, Yeah, there was, And I'm, you know, really

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Speaker 7: glad that Brent Potter is such a fantastic candidate for

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Speaker 7: the Labor Party. He worked really strong out there to

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Speaker 7: engage with local residents to let them know the path

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Speaker 7: forward and the value were voting for him over any

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Speaker 7: of the other candidates.

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Speaker 5: Katie, it goes to show yet again, when you vote

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Speaker 5: for the Greens, you're voting for labor. Now, if I

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Speaker 5: was the Greens Party, I wouldn't take a lot of

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Speaker 5: comfort from what they perceived to be a swing towards them.

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Speaker 5: What I think has happened is I attended the teacher's

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Speaker 5: rally at Parap because my to me, men and rules

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Speaker 5: teachers were there, so was supporting them there, and the

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Speaker 5: Greens fellow spoke at that rally. A lot of people

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Speaker 5: who are labor supporters and labor voters probably couldn't bring

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Speaker 5: themselves to vote for Labor given the issues with salaries

588
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Speaker 5: and freezers and pays, etc. But they also can't bring

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Speaker 5: themselves to vote for the COLP. So I'd say a

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Speaker 5: fair swing of those previous labor voters voted for the Greens.

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Speaker 5: Then they put Labor second come the next election, they

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Speaker 5: will probably go back to their traditional voting pattern and

593
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Speaker 5: whether that's enough to keep them in power, whether the

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Speaker 5: CLP candidate or another cant comes up.

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Speaker 4: But the bottom line is the majority.

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Speaker 5: Of people in that electric didn't want the Greens were

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Speaker 5: always going to mack up preferences, as I said last week,

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Speaker 5: and it just goes to show Greens continued to side

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Speaker 5: with Labor no matter you know what you say. And

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Speaker 5: I think the Greens are the Colps come out with

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Speaker 5: some fairly sound policies in regards to their environmental policies

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Speaker 5: going forward, but the Greens fellow still couldn't acknowledge that

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Speaker 5: some of their policies were good.

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Speaker 4: So he's got into bed. That's the way it is.

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Speaker 2: Watching this from Afar down in Allie Springs. I think

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Speaker 2: the one thing that disappointed me was when you Labour

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Speaker 2: see a fifteen percent swing against them, and listening to

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Speaker 2: mister Potter on your radio station the other day, Katie

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Speaker 2: basically say, oh, the reason for the lay voter to

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Speaker 2: turn out was that people were happy. People were happy,

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Speaker 2: so they didn't And Natasha file as a Chief minister,

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Speaker 2: said the similar thing. I actually went out and knocked

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Speaker 2: on a lot of those doors, and I tell you,

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Speaker 2: people weren't happy. They were frustrated. They were saying, to me,

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Speaker 2: this is twelve years of labor. We want to send

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Speaker 2: them a message. And absolutely, you probably had labor voters

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Speaker 2: that couldn't bring themselves to get out there and vote

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Speaker 2: for their own party, so they just didn't vote at all.

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Speaker 2: And that's the frustration. This is a message that was

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Speaker 2: sent to the Labor Party loud and clear. I hope

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Speaker 2: that they're listening.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so do I because fundamentally, you know what like

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Speaker 1: it's it's stuff that we talk about all the time,

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Speaker 1: and it is you know, there are issues at the

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Speaker 1: moment when it comes to the to the you know,

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Speaker 1: safety within the community. There's issues when it comes to

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Speaker 1: you know, those concerns that have been raised within the

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Speaker 1: police force. They're just a couple that I can think

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Speaker 1: of right now. But even cost of living, and we

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Speaker 1: will talk in a moment about you know, about the

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Speaker 1: public service pay frees and things like that. There are

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Speaker 1: some really serious issues.

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Speaker 3: At the moment.

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Speaker 1: And and you know it is the job of our

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Speaker 1: elected members, of all of you in the room, to

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Speaker 1: listen to your constituents.

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Speaker 3: That's why people vote.

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Speaker 1: You know, you are our representatives that make those really

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Speaker 1: important decisions for us. And and you know, you can

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Speaker 1: never forget that responsibility that that people in the community

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Speaker 1: right now, if they're saying we're hurting, you know we've

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Speaker 1: we are, we are really hurting because of the crime

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Speaker 1: that's going on. We you know, we can't handle being

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Speaker 1: broken into we can't handle have to sort of to

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Speaker 1: live with this day in and day out. It's it's

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Speaker 1: your responsibility to listen.

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Speaker 4: And I think, I mean, I'm sure we'll look.

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Speaker 5: Candidates were listening and door knocking like crazy in those

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Speaker 5: in that electorate. But the low voter turnout surprised me.

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Speaker 5: That's on par with some of the Bush electorates who

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Speaker 5: have low voter turnouts, but it was lower than day

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Speaker 5: so to be in the suburbs of Fanny Bay, Ludmiller,

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Speaker 5: the gardens and whatever else is in that electric it

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Speaker 5: really surprised me. Do you know it wasn't difficult to

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Speaker 5: vote to schools, but clearly some people just either couldn't

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Speaker 5: be bothered, like Josh said, or look, I don't want

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Speaker 5: to anything to do with this.

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Speaker 1: Well, do you know, I can't tell you how many

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Speaker 1: people I know that said to me, who should I

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Speaker 1: vote for?

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Speaker 3: Katie? And I said, I'm not going to tell you

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Speaker 3: who to vote for.

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Speaker 1: You've got to vote. You've got to choose that yourself.

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Speaker 1: They said, I don't know who to vote for, because

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Speaker 1: aside from the Greens candidate, the two major parties don't

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Speaker 1: have local people running, and that was an issue for

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Speaker 1: some of those people that live locally and saying you're.

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Speaker 4: Going to buy a house in the electorate.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's different sort of in the rule air.

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Speaker 5: I'm not in my electorate, but I'm sort of next door.

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Speaker 5: I live rural, and you know Gary Higgins wasn't in

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Speaker 5: his elector he lived rural, for example, So it's a

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Speaker 5: bit different.

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Speaker 4: But some of the urban areas, like.

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Speaker 5: There's some very distinct community issues in certain suburbs and

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Speaker 5: sort of collectives. So I understand that that would be

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Speaker 5: an issue for people, But that goes back to the

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Speaker 5: parties when they pre select their candidates. Absolutely, you really

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Speaker 5: want this person to be your candidate. Get the mood already,

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Speaker 5: so that shows their commitment, and.

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Speaker 7: That comes across quite clearly. I agree, he's you there.

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Speaker 7: We're very protective in our backyard. Here of the territory

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Speaker 7: and we want to know that, you know, the people

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Speaker 7: that are going to represent us understand the issues first

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Speaker 7: and foremost, and that's where I guess we all trust

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Speaker 7: with our you know, our parties, particularly the pre selection process,

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Speaker 7: making sure that we can identify and select the best

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Speaker 7: candidate who would eventually, you know, I hope to represent

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Speaker 7: the people of that area in the Northern Suburbs.

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Speaker 4: It's not you know, it's.

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Speaker 3: A bit different as well, but.

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Speaker 7: We are kind of protective about the roads and who

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Speaker 7: lives in one electorate. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 7: that's the rules. You just have to live in the

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Speaker 7: territory to be Also.

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Speaker 5: The issue that I think someone else has puted out

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Speaker 5: beforehand might have been Leah, if that outcome was reflected

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Speaker 5: the next general election, Labour's Gonsky and time.

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Speaker 1: And look, I'm sure that there must be some reflection

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Speaker 1: going on from within the Labor Party at the moment

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Speaker 1: following on from that by election, because let's be honest

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Speaker 1: as well. You know, Fanny Bay's a blue ribbon seat

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Speaker 1: like ninety five since they've they've had that seat since

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five, so you know, to that primary vote

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Speaker 1: for that to go you know well and truly to

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Speaker 1: the colp was I was quite surprised by the outcome.

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Speaker 3: I've got to say we do over the weekend.

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Speaker 7: For granted, Katie, and so making sure that we do

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Speaker 7: that deep dive into what happened. You know why there

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Speaker 7: wasn't a huge voter turnout, even though there was. I

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Speaker 7: think there was a pretty low number of prepolling before

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Speaker 7: the election day as well, And so looking at that,

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Speaker 7: not taking any of those votes, for granted, working really

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Speaker 7: hard to make the changes that need to happen, and

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Speaker 7: supporting Brent who's hit the ground running as their local member.

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Speaker 7: And funny Bay.

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Speaker 4: Think of it from this point of view, Katie. Big

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Speaker 4: windfall in fines thirty percent of people.

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Speaker 3: No, we are get fined twenty five dollars.

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Speaker 4: Still some money, not much at all.

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Speaker 1: But do you know what I always say, We always

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Speaker 1: say it on this show, No vote, no wine.

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Speaker 3: If you don't go out and vote, well, don't call

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Speaker 3: them wings.

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Speaker 5: They didn't listen to me either, So to go out

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Speaker 5: and vote early and vote often. So clearly those people

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Speaker 5: in that elected aren't very good at listening to Bush.

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Speaker 1: I did tell the Deputy Electoral Commissioner that casier, So

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Speaker 1: hopefully you don't get in trouble for giving people that advice.

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Speaker 3: We'll take a very short break.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to Mix one O four nine's three

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Speaker 1: sixty in the studio with us this morning for the

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Speaker 1: week that was. We've got Josh Burgo and we've also

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Speaker 1: got Keyesyerpuric, and we've got Ni r Kit and we

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Speaker 1: know that Northern Territory Government union members are going to

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Speaker 1: be partaking in a day of action on the first

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Speaker 1: of September, so next Thursday, in response to the government's

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Speaker 1: refusal to lose the wage freeze. Is what I have

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Speaker 1: said in a statement. They say Chief Minister Files needs

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Speaker 1: to start listening to her public sector workers and so

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Speaker 1: essentially teachers are going to be stopping work for the day,

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Speaker 1: Correctional officers are going to be stopping work for twelve hours.

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Speaker 1: Firefighters are going to be attending the action. Nurses are

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Speaker 1: going to be attending that action, Power and Water as well,

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Speaker 1: and Territory Generation Aboriginal Health practitioners will also be heading

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Speaker 1: along and all various government workers will attend the action day.

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Speaker 1: It's a long like the day long action basically is

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Speaker 1: going to be held in Darwin and Alas Springs so

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Speaker 1: Parliament House nine until five thirty in Darwin and then

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Speaker 1: the Alice Springstown Council lawns nine until five.

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Speaker 5: So unprecedented. Yeah, I'm trying to think. I mean, in

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Speaker 5: my time, I'm sure there has been. I can't think

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Speaker 5: anything off the top of my head. I know Steve

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Speaker 5: Hatton faced an anger when he was Chief miss He

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Speaker 5: faced an angry mob outside the old Parliament House. But

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Speaker 5: I can't remve if our public servants or government officials

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Speaker 5: or not.

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Speaker 4: But to have all those.

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Speaker 5: Employees of the government systems protesting, I think sends a

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Speaker 5: really strong message.

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Speaker 4: I mean, and there.

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Speaker 5: Mostly those people who at the front front line, you know,

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Speaker 5: the nurses, the fires and all that sort of thing.

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Speaker 5: So I think they are trying to get through to

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Speaker 5: the Chief Minister and Minister Kirby, who's the public sector

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Speaker 5: employer minister, is that they're not happy, you know, and

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Speaker 5: you can't to freeze wages for another three years when

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Speaker 5: we've got you know, cost of living inflations high. We

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Speaker 5: know that we've got issues with our fuel prices, you know,

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Speaker 5: and the exercise hasn't even come off. So I you know,

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Speaker 5: whatever Chief Minister passed Michael Gunner did, that should be

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Speaker 5: just pushed aside and pushed out and come back. And

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Speaker 5: you know, that's why I think a lot of people

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Speaker 5: had some high hopes with Natasha becoming the Chief Minister

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Speaker 5: that should bring fresh eyes and fresh thinking and fresh

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Speaker 5: direction to the government's engagement with the public sector.

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Speaker 4: It's just the beginning.

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Speaker 5: This is not going to go on because they're highly

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Speaker 5: organized through their respective unions, then the Trades and Labor

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Speaker 5: Council and using social media and reaching out to various

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Speaker 5: we shall partners partnerships. You know, we saw what happened

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Speaker 5: last week with the teachers that I was there. I

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Speaker 5: reckon there was easy four to five hundred people easy.

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Speaker 5: There was quite a lot from the rule of my

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Speaker 5: schools and that's why I went to support them. But

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Speaker 5: there were just an abundance of people and supporters.

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Speaker 3: So Thursday, Thursdayday, if.

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Speaker 5: Last week's any indication, there will be equally hundreds, if

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Speaker 5: not up to thousand out there protesting and trying to

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Speaker 5: send a message to government.

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Speaker 2: It's an interesting turn of events because these are essentially

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Speaker 2: labors on you know, these are the unions that support

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Speaker 2: labor generally during the elections, and now we've got them

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Speaker 2: rallying against this government because they do not accept this

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Speaker 2: pay freeze over COVID. We've continuously heard these are the

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Speaker 2: people that have been getting us through COVID. These have

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Speaker 2: been the people that have been supporting us all through

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Speaker 2: this time, and now when that comes to an actual

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Speaker 2: pay rise, the government says you're not worth it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the colp have said loud and clear we support Langoland's

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Speaker 2: plan for budget repair, which is a thousand dollars a

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Speaker 2: year real wages growth, that's increased entitlements, that superinnuation and

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Speaker 2: all this. I don't know what Labor are putting forward

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Speaker 2: in regards to that, but clearly whatever they're putting on

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Speaker 2: the table, the unions aren't happy with.

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Speaker 7: So we understand and we respect to you know, each

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Speaker 7: union's ability to undertake protected industrial action. And it is

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Speaker 7: a huge day that is planned for the Thursday, the

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Speaker 7: first to September. It's been really great to see the

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Speaker 7: schools manage the impact last week to ensure that classes

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Speaker 7: and supervision could still go ahead. We do not take

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Speaker 7: for granted the amazing work that all of our workers

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Speaker 7: undertake to serve Territorians. Minister Kirby is leading the chargers

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Speaker 7: the commission, the OCPE Minister and OCPA are currently in

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Speaker 7: those negotiations with all of those unions, and Labor does

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Speaker 7: have a long standing relationship with the unions. But when

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Speaker 7: we need to have those tough negotiations and those tough discussions,

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Speaker 7: we're absolutely right there at that table.

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Speaker 1: You know, the hard part here is that the whole

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Speaker 1: reason there is the wage freees in place is because obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're pretty broke.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's got any better.

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Speaker 1: And you know that's a really difficult part here is

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Speaker 1: that that's the whole reason why this wage freeze came

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Speaker 1: into place. But you know, the really difficult thing that

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Speaker 1: we're now grappling with is that we cannot afford to

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Speaker 1: lose our teachers to interstate. We cannot afford to lose

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Speaker 1: those frontline workers to interstate because there is a massive

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Speaker 1: shortage of stuff.

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Speaker 4: Gobbled up into state.

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Speaker 5: And I would think particularly if they're the younger family

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Speaker 5: people who are still mobile, they've still got young children,

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Speaker 5: so they are comfortable, Well, it's easier for them than

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Speaker 5: an old established family. But if the teachers don't leave

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Speaker 5: and go into state. They'll just retire early well or

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Speaker 5: go to another job.

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Speaker 3: And this is the hard part.

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Speaker 1: You know, we can't, like, we can't be in a

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Speaker 1: situation where we don't have enough teachers. But the really

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Speaker 1: difficult thing now, as well as a parent, is I know,

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Speaker 1: I'm very supportive of the teachers. I think, you know

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Speaker 1: what they do, deserve to be paid well, they educate

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Speaker 1: our kids. They do a bloody good job at it.

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Speaker 1: But the concern that I've got is I don't want

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Speaker 1: there to be ongoing strikes here and to be disruptive

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Speaker 1: to our children.

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Speaker 3: You know, you don't want.

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Speaker 5: It disrupts not children, just disrupts the families of the children,

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Speaker 5: because a lot of people have working families, mums and dads,

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Speaker 5: and then if they can't help, then obviously cares and

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Speaker 5: grandparents have to step into aunties uncles.

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Speaker 4: So it flows across the community.

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Speaker 5: So if you have to say, look, I've got to

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Speaker 5: take a sick day at work because they've got no

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Speaker 5: more leave left, So that means the private sector starts

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Speaker 5: to be impacted on in some shape or form. And

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Speaker 5: we're really struggling at the moment in the private sector

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Speaker 5: waiting to get goods because it's taking a long time,

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Speaker 5: partly due to COVID et cetera. So as I said,

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Speaker 5: I think this is just the beginning until government gets

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Speaker 5: the message. And if government ignores them, be it at there.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they can afford to. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they're in an a situation where they can. It's yeah,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, it's going to be difficult. And look, we

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Speaker 1: are going to catch up with the Department of e

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Speaker 1: Education just after eleven o'clock this morning to find out

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Speaker 1: what impact, if any, this is going to have on

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Speaker 1: our school so if they are still going to be

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Speaker 1: able to keep those schools staffed like they did last

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Speaker 1: Friday in terms of the kids still being able to

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Speaker 1: go to school, because this is also going to impact

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Speaker 1: Alice Springs as well. It's not to start on this

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Speaker 1: time round. It's right across the territory. And again I

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Speaker 1: will make the point that those teachers didn't get the

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Speaker 1: pay bonus. I didn't know whether the other frontline workers

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Speaker 1: did or did And.

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Speaker 5: Katie, the other thing too is I think I mentioned

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Speaker 5: last week the bonus that went to the admin staff

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Speaker 5: of schools that has not flowed through some of my

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Speaker 5: rural schools have paid the bonus out of their existing funds,

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Speaker 5: and the chief pretty achievemness of Michael Gonna said, yes,

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Speaker 5: the money's flowed. I can tell you now the money

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Speaker 5: has not flowed to two schools in particularly in my life.

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Speaker 2: You hit the nail on the head right there, Katie.

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Speaker 2: When you're eight point seven billion dollars in debt, these

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Speaker 2: are the sorts of things that start racking up. We

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Speaker 2: can't afford to pay our teachers, right, We can't afford

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Speaker 2: to pay our frontline works what they deserve to be paid.

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Speaker 2: That's why it's so important to be able to run

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Speaker 2: a budget in the black, not always in the red.

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Speaker 2: And I tell you what, we're just.

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Speaker 5: Money to splash around for the by election, that's.

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Speaker 2: Right, ten million dollars there for preschool, Yeah, running for.

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Speaker 5: The Vestis Beach area and something for this and money

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Speaker 5: for that.

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Speaker 3: Well, look, we've run out of time. Game.

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Speaker 1: It always said, the hour always goes pretty quickly once

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Speaker 1: you get everybody talking. Joshua Burgoyne, the member for Braklin,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 7: You very much.

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Speaker 3: Katie Kezier Purity.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: I also want to put a plug in for Wildcare.

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Speaker 5: They've got a wonderful auction at Free Spirit on Saturday night.

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Speaker 5: I'll leave you some information start hundreds of items, hundreds

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Speaker 5: and the Debona Tony Pickning is going to be the auctioneer.

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Speaker 4: Wonderful, so anyone who knows.

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Speaker 5: His style will be in for a fun night. So

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Speaker 5: twenty Saturday Night at Free Spirit, which is one at

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Speaker 5: BP Palms.

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Speaker 1: Wonderful stays can Arie, I keep thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: joining us this morning.

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Speaker 7: Thanks for having at Katie