WEBVTT - Make it 1% Better! Sweating the Small Stuff Leads to Success: Lessons from Steven Bartlett

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<v Speaker 1>Life Uncut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose lands

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<v Speaker 1>were never seated. We pay our respects to their elders

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<v Speaker 1>past and present.

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<v Speaker 2>Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was

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<v Speaker 2>recorded on d rug Wallamuta Land. Hi guys, and welcome

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<v Speaker 2>back to another episode of Life. I'm Cut, I'm Laura,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Brittany. Do you know what I just did?

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<v Speaker 3>Farted? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it a rhetorical question or do you really want

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<v Speaker 1>me to guess?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't think you will ever guess it,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'll just come clean. I went to the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 2>It does have to do with the bathroom, but nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do with farting. I went to the bathroom, I

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<v Speaker 2>pulled down my pants and then I realized my underwear

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<v Speaker 2>was on back to front. But at no point this

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<v Speaker 2>morning did it feel uncomfortable, which says a lot about

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<v Speaker 2>the state of my vagina.

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<v Speaker 1>No. I think that just means that your butts the

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<v Speaker 1>same size as your vagina.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a problem if the back of your underwear can

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<v Speaker 2>comfortably support the front and the front of your underwear

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<v Speaker 2>can sit at the back.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's some problems.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think it's a problem. It just means

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<v Speaker 2>you got juicy lips. I think you know what, it's

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<v Speaker 2>actually the roosed ones. You know, the ones that like

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<v Speaker 2>where it's spens be a bit roosed in the bump crack.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just rooted in the front crack. And not

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<v Speaker 2>one single part of me, not one single part of me,

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<v Speaker 2>found this experience uncomfortable until I looked down and I

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<v Speaker 2>saw the tag at the front, and I was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not the way that the underwear goes.

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<v Speaker 3>But god, it feels good.

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<v Speaker 1>Does you mean the rouchine where it like makes it

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<v Speaker 1>look like it all comes up like jump into the

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<v Speaker 1>butt crack.

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<v Speaker 2>The rushing out of the backside crack is currently at

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<v Speaker 2>the front And do you know what, I didn't turn

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<v Speaker 2>them around.

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<v Speaker 1>So you didn't notice that that was up your fanny. No,

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<v Speaker 1>so not only you're fanning the size of your butt,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's tight lips like that's not getting in, nothing's penetrating.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a fort. It's like a cantle thought, nothing

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<v Speaker 3>gets in or around.

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<v Speaker 2>I just felt like my volver was comfortably supported today.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm happy for you. It was cushioned between the rushing

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<v Speaker 3>and you. You obviously you have to sign and you

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<v Speaker 3>like it enough to leave it. I persevered.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, I just it was the whole effort of

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<v Speaker 2>having to take my shoes off, take my jeans off,

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<v Speaker 2>and then turn everything around that I was like, look,

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<v Speaker 2>we've come this far, We've come this.

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<v Speaker 1>There is nothing worse like. I find it so uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess this is different people's vaginas, they're different shapes.

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<v Speaker 3>But for me, volvers volvers.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, I find it wildly uncomfortable and I have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of problems with front wedges.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my story.

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<v Speaker 2>Well apparently I don't, so yeah, anyway, I look, it

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<v Speaker 2>was a surprise.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that things have changed down there since in.

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<v Speaker 2>The last couple of years after two kids, but it

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<v Speaker 2>definitely was a surprise to look at my own underwear

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, oh, that looks like that should be uncomfortable,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that for you, Thank you. Well, I just

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<v Speaker 3>think dumb this morning. Actually it was really annoying.

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<v Speaker 1>It should be my suck well to say it now.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to get a coffee with Delilah in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning before we come here, take her out so she

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<v Speaker 1>can do a poop. I get my coffee and then

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<v Speaker 1>I go to work for the day. So I got

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<v Speaker 1>my coffee, she did a big poop. I was also facetiming,

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<v Speaker 1>but at the same time in one hand, so I

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<v Speaker 1>had which is this is probably gross, But I had

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<v Speaker 1>the coffee in one hand like that, and then underneath,

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<v Speaker 1>with my bottom two fingers, I was holding the poo bag.

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<v Speaker 3>Say, we've all been there, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So the top two fingers were holding the coffee and

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<v Speaker 1>then the bottom fingers were holding the poo bag, and

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<v Speaker 1>my other hand had the phone.

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<v Speaker 2>You should have gone phone and poobag, not coffee and

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<v Speaker 2>poobag like that would have been a safer orientation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, well, okay, I think I did do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I went to lift up an auto bind

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<v Speaker 1>to put it in the bin.

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<v Speaker 3>So I had them both in one hand and I

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<v Speaker 3>lifted it up to.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, I couldn't compute in my brain that I only

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<v Speaker 1>needed to let go of two fingers to drop the

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<v Speaker 1>poo bag. So I opened the bin, held the coffee

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<v Speaker 1>in the poo bag over But I couldn't work out

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<v Speaker 1>hard to drop.

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<v Speaker 3>The two fingers. You're doing too many tasks.

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<v Speaker 1>So I opened my whole hand and my coffee, whole brain,

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<v Speaker 1>new coffee, and the poo bag went into the o bin.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I thought what you were going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Say was is that you took a sip of your

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<v Speaker 2>coffee and smacked yourself in the face with a poo bag.

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<v Speaker 3>Funny story. No, I have to say that didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a shame. You didn't tea bag yourself with a

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<v Speaker 3>bag of poof.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I have done before? And this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is actually I've got to stop doing this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But I figit a lot. As you guys know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always moving around, I'm always clicking my hands and whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I talk a lot with my hands. So often I

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<v Speaker 1>walk with the pooh bag until I find a bin.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll just be like spinning it around subconsciously, even

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<v Speaker 1>though it's produced.

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<v Speaker 3>Is Keisha's nodding, She's like, you always spin the poo bag.

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<v Speaker 3>I was spinning the poo bag around and it flung.

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<v Speaker 3>The bottom had a there must have been a rock

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<v Speaker 3>solid shit. The bottom tore.

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<v Speaker 1>Open and the pooh flung out across my body and

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<v Speaker 1>like just missed another human by about half a meter

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<v Speaker 1>and then splattered against a wall. That was why I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, going like this and it just flu.

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<v Speaker 1>The bag must have had like a really loose seam

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<v Speaker 1>and the poo rocketed across and nearly knocks someone out

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<v Speaker 1>with other shit.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I'm so sorry, Like, well, you gotta

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<v Speaker 3>sp spin of that around. I was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what I was thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, okay, wow, Well I don't know how we got here,

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<v Speaker 2>but here we are. I know you had a very

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<v Speaker 2>big weekend. I mean we've gone from the highs to

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<v Speaker 2>the lows. Yeah, but on last week's episode we were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about your egg freezing second round journey, and on

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday you had your egg collection and.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that that didn't go.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I know because we've obviously spoken about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know that you wanted to talk about it

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<v Speaker 2>on today's episode. Brit on Saturday sent a text message

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<v Speaker 2>to both Keisha and I updating us on how that

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<v Speaker 2>egg retrieval went.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't think I've ever seen you so upset.

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<v Speaker 1>We both did have big weekends, yeah, but very different weekends.

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<v Speaker 1>You and producer with Keisha got drunk at Keisha's birthday

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<v Speaker 1>and we were drinking, I have drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>We were drinking Marga readers and brit sent us a

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<v Speaker 2>message and I was devastated.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what I did?

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<v Speaker 1>I looked back at that message and I was almost

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassed because I was I think you can tell I

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<v Speaker 1>was still hey. So what happens is you come out

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<v Speaker 1>of your egg retrieval. I had a general anesthetics, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're still high, but you're still computing enough of the information,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't really realize you're high. But looking back, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Could tell and.

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<v Speaker 1>It did not go well for me, which was really

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<v Speaker 1>shocking because I hand on my heart, there's no part

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<v Speaker 1>of me that thought it would be bad at all,

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<v Speaker 1>like this bad. So two years ago I did it

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<v Speaker 1>and I got fifteen eggs, you guys might remember, And

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<v Speaker 1>this time the doctor came in and I could just

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<v Speaker 1>tell by the look on her face, and she said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, sorry, it didn't go well. We only got

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<v Speaker 1>three eggs. Well, we actually got four, but then one

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<v Speaker 1>was dead, you know, like four came out and one

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't good. So we only got three, which is I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to like, I know theo's other people that

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<v Speaker 1>are listening that have probably got no eggs.

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<v Speaker 3>One egg two eggs. Three eggs, So I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to say, you know, this is so bad, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>not great.

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<v Speaker 1>And anyone that knows the statistics around egg retrieval and

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<v Speaker 1>the success rate knows that.

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<v Speaker 3>Three eggs is really bad.

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<v Speaker 1>So for the fifteen eggs I got last time, she

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<v Speaker 1>told me that that might equate to one live birth,

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<v Speaker 1>so three is not amazing. And she just basically said,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have to do it again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, as soon as I can do it again.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was just so upset because I think I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't expecting it. I think if I had known that

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<v Speaker 1>it was likely, it wouldn't have hit me as hard.

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<v Speaker 2>And you were really hoping that would be the last

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<v Speaker 2>time you'd have to go through this egg freezing process. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>it's expensive, and it's painful, and there's you know, it's emotional.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's not like not that I was hoping

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<v Speaker 3>it would be my last time.

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<v Speaker 1>In my head, it was I was like, oh, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>smash out one more collection, not the ten to fifteen eggs.

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<v Speaker 3>And would be good.

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<v Speaker 1>And I immediately was so overwhelmed and upset, and I

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<v Speaker 1>took a video and sent it to Keisha and Laura

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<v Speaker 1>to give them the update, and I was just beside

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<v Speaker 1>myself and I looked back at that when I came

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<v Speaker 1>to a few hours later, and I was actually so

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassed that I sent that to you guys. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>such a shitty thing to do, because it.

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<v Speaker 3>Not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's because it was like you guys were,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, at Keisha's party, and I didn't really I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't cross my mind.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't comprehend where what was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think I needed to tell And I sent

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<v Speaker 1>it to Ben too, because I felt really upset that

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<v Speaker 1>like might not be able to give Ben kids, and

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<v Speaker 1>like even when I watched it back, I was crying

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<v Speaker 1>at how upset I was, like, it wasn't me, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching it like that's so heartbreaking for that person,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was me. But anyway, Yeah, so it's Look,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the end of the world by any means,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna do it again, and I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna pump me with a lot more hormones again like

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<v Speaker 1>the original time, and maybe thingers cross I get more.

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<v Speaker 1>But basically, all my follicles.

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<v Speaker 3>Were empty, little fuckers.

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<v Speaker 1>They were all empty, So I mean I only had seven,

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<v Speaker 1>but only three had an egg in them, and the

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<v Speaker 1>rest were just like fake.

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<v Speaker 2>They were already baby little follicles. And then they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even bring an egg.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, they made it to the right side eventually, so

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<v Speaker 1>they were too small. They got to the right side,

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<v Speaker 1>but then they were still empty, so you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that until you take them out.

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<v Speaker 2>I also just want to say, like, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>know we can often do this, like when we be

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<v Speaker 2>vulnerable and be upset, and then you can have like

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<v Speaker 2>that vulnerability hang up where you like feel almost ashamed

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<v Speaker 2>or humiliated. You've let people see you be sad, especially

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<v Speaker 2>because you know I don't use that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, when I look back later, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, why.

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<v Speaker 3>Did I do that? That is like no one, I

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<v Speaker 3>never want you to apologize.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is like as a friend, but also just

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<v Speaker 2>for everyone listening, like it's so important that sometimes we

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<v Speaker 2>share that part of ourselves because it's the only way

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<v Speaker 2>that people actually know when we're struggling, because otherwise, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're always the person who shows up in relationships and

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<v Speaker 2>shows up being.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm fine, everything's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>If you embody toxic positivity in the moments when you're

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<v Speaker 2>not fine, you then don't get help because people just

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<v Speaker 2>assume that since you've been saying that you're fine, you're fine,

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<v Speaker 2>And like, there is something that's really powerful in showing

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<v Speaker 2>when you are not and it's okay to be not okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's when people come in to support you. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that without doing that, even the people who

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<v Speaker 2>love you the most, the people who are closest to you,

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<v Speaker 2>have no understanding about how much something hurts you or

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<v Speaker 2>what you're going through because you haven't told them. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think sometimes we expect that people just understand without

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<v Speaker 2>giving them all of the information to really really understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I guess the reason I want to, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole reason I documented the whole process was to

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<v Speaker 1>make people feel better about it, make them feel like

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<v Speaker 1>they can take their own fertility into their own hands.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, if it's going to make you feel

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<v Speaker 1>better to go and put your eggs on eyes, do it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have never found out what your fertility your

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<v Speaker 1>AMH level is, do it. But for me, this is

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<v Speaker 1>like a really real reminder and something I really want

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<v Speaker 1>to drive home to people is that if you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>gone and checked that out, and I'm saying to like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you want to be in your twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>sure go into the blood test.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you're in your thirties.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not sure if you want kids, or you're not ready,

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<v Speaker 1>or you've never done the test. All I can say

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<v Speaker 1>is just go and start the process. It's just a

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<v Speaker 1>simple blood test to check your levels and get it going,

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<v Speaker 1>because the worst thing that can happen is you don't

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<v Speaker 1>investigate it and you get to the.

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<v Speaker 3>Point where you decide it's time and then you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>And for me, my AMH was actually the same as

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<v Speaker 1>three years ago, so that's the level of eggs you have.

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<v Speaker 1>Mine was the same, it hadn't changed, so we were

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<v Speaker 1>expecting the same results. But then to only get three,

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<v Speaker 1>which is highly likely it doesn't even result in a

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<v Speaker 1>berth down the track is really shocking. So I would

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<v Speaker 1>pay for anyone to get to that point and wish

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<v Speaker 1>that they did it sooner. So it's just, if anything,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a reminder to.

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<v Speaker 3>To go and check it out. Yeah, Because also I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>if I got this wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>When they thaw the frozen eggs, not all of them

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<v Speaker 2>thowt correctly. It is that right, like you'll lose eggs

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<v Speaker 2>in the thawing process as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it's only one cell.

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<v Speaker 1>It's only this one cell, so it's not overly stable

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<v Speaker 1>to survive defrosting, Whereas when you make an embryo and

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<v Speaker 1>freezing embryo, because there's so many more cells involved, it's

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<v Speaker 1>more likely that it survived. It's more stable, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>more likely to survive the defrosting and then take in

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<v Speaker 1>the womb like when it's actually time for IVF, which

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<v Speaker 1>is why they say freezing embryos is generally better than

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<v Speaker 1>freezing an egg if you can.

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<v Speaker 3>But not a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>People are in that position. You know a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people are doing this because they're single or.

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<v Speaker 3>For whatever reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, to try and like, yeah, safeguard the long term

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<v Speaker 2>strategy around like how they're going to be able.

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<v Speaker 3>To have kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And the reason quickly, the reason that like, if

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<v Speaker 1>you have fifteen eggs, you know, my specialist said that

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<v Speaker 1>could be one birth, is because half of them won't

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<v Speaker 1>survive to frosting. Then half of them won't be good

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<v Speaker 1>enough to take. And then statistically speaking, once it's implanted,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we know about miscarriages, and we know all

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<v Speaker 1>of this stuff so it's just it's obviously not something

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<v Speaker 1>to live and die by this number, but it's based

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<v Speaker 1>off something, right, It's based off averages of people that

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<v Speaker 1>freeze and inject into ITHERF. So it wasn't great for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was very, very shocking, and I'm super upset

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<v Speaker 1>about it. But I am going to do it maybe

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<v Speaker 1>one more time, and if the results are the same,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll have to look a bit more closely, like actually

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about IVF and things like that, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thirty six, and it was like a fucking slap

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<v Speaker 1>in the face.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, wow, I did not see that coming. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I just want to add one thing in that. It

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<v Speaker 5>was a message that you sent to me yesterday, and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually like, I'm looking.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna deliberately not look at you in the eye

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<v Speaker 5>right now because I know I'll get upset because when

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<v Speaker 5>I read it, I was like, Fuck, that was just

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<v Speaker 5>such an insight into how you're feeling about yourself right now,

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<v Speaker 5>and I really want to change that narrative. You sent

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<v Speaker 5>a message and I can't remember the exact words of it,

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<v Speaker 5>but it was along the lines of I can't even

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<v Speaker 5>produce eggs, like I'm such a failure that I can't

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<v Speaker 5>even with the addition of hormones and all of this

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<v Speaker 5>scientific support, I can't even do that. And it's so

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<v Speaker 5>not fair to be thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>About yourself like that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>We recently had Chloe Fisher on the podcast, and that

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<v Speaker 5>was something that she really battles with, with this idea

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<v Speaker 5>of like, why the fuck doesn't my body work the

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<v Speaker 5>way that it's supposed to. It's not a failure of you,

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<v Speaker 5>it just it didn't go to plan this time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>And I don't want you being down on yourself and

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<v Speaker 5>being like, you know, I've left this so late in

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<v Speaker 5>my fertility age or whatever it might be, whatever's going

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<v Speaker 5>through your head, like you are not a failure because

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<v Speaker 5>this process didn't work this time.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also think that's such relatable feeling. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>think anyone who's had a miscarriage, or anyone who's on

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<v Speaker 2>their fertility journey but their body hasn't done what it's

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to do. I think every woman who's experienced that

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<v Speaker 2>has felt that feeling of like, well, I'm failing as

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<v Speaker 2>a woman, you know, I'm failing as this life purpose

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<v Speaker 2>that I've been sold my whole life that you know

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to one day have kids. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for the majority of women who choose that, if you

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<v Speaker 2>are the one in five who have a miscarriage, or

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<v Speaker 2>you are the exponential number of women who struggle in

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<v Speaker 2>their fertility journey, it is like so common to feel

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<v Speaker 2>like you are broken, that there's something.

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<v Speaker 1>Wrong with you totally, and I'm not ruling it out.

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<v Speaker 1>I will still try naturally on that one off chance that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I drop an egg that isn't empty, like

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<v Speaker 1>a follicle that is there, Like, I'm still gonna try.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still gonna do another round.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not to say I haven't spoken to my specialist yet,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's not to say that the next time isn't better.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, we don't know. If the next time

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<v Speaker 3>is the same, that's when it you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know you're right, Keisha, And it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>immediately you go to is like, wow, I just had

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<v Speaker 1>twelve months of drugs happening in one month, like twelve

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<v Speaker 1>months of fertility to happen in four weeks, basically three weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>and I still can't produce it with all the help

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<v Speaker 1>of science.

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<v Speaker 3>There is a.

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<v Speaker 1>Party that's like fucking how to do it on my

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<v Speaker 1>own if science can't even help me.

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<v Speaker 3>But Ben's been so amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I know this is me and my journey, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just me because you're in a partnership and with

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that wants kids and obviously something you do take on,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I have to consider him at a point.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's just like a dream boat. He's like, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't change anything. Maybe we take a different route when

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<v Speaker 1>it's time. Maybe you know, there are always different options,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's just been like an absolute dream boat. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's my update. Sorry to be a downer, but not

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<v Speaker 1>a downer.

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<v Speaker 3>You're just real. There's our headline. I'll tell you the

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<v Speaker 3>name of the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Hang on, should we tell you what the episode's about?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And it is a biggie today now keeps just jumping

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<v Speaker 2>on because I didn't get to be here for this interview.

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<v Speaker 3>What a shame, What a shame.

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<v Speaker 2>We interviewed well, Keisha and Brittany interviewed Stephen Bartlett from

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<v Speaker 2>Diary of a Ceo.

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<v Speaker 1>So Diary of a CEO. If you don't know all

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Bartlet. He is one of the biggest podcasters in

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<v Speaker 1>the UK and Europe collectively but you would have.

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<v Speaker 2>Heard of it because almost every week, apart from sleep,

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<v Speaker 2>it is Keisha's vibe, so she has I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>think if there was ever a pall pass that came

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<v Speaker 2>in podcast form, it is Stephen Butler for Keisha.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even think it needs to be in podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think in terms of podcasting for us, Steven is

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<v Speaker 1>one of those people that every podcast can only hope

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<v Speaker 1>they get to speak with because he's so good. He's

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<v Speaker 1>so successful, he's so intelligent. He's an amazing entrepreneur and

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing businessman, and he has been since his early twenties.

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<v Speaker 3>Like he's just one of those overachievers.

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<v Speaker 1>He speaks to the biggest people in the industry around

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<v Speaker 1>the world, and he doesn't speak to people in a

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<v Speaker 1>certain area, like there's no ground he doesn't cover, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's no ground he doesn't touch on. He's incredible. We've

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<v Speaker 1>all listened to him for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 3>He's all been on.

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<v Speaker 1>Our bucket list. But Keisha in particular, I think she's

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<v Speaker 1>slipped off a seed.

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<v Speaker 3>A few times.

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<v Speaker 5>So this happened because Laura was up in Magnetic Island

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<v Speaker 5>celebrating your dad's birthday, and there was no Wi Fi,

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<v Speaker 5>and so we actually had to do this interview at

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<v Speaker 5>like eleven pm at night because he was in the UK.

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<v Speaker 5>But I remember saying to Laura, I was like, Laura,

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<v Speaker 5>I just I don't even know if I want to

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<v Speaker 5>do this interview because they say don't meet your heroes,

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<v Speaker 5>because in my mind, I was like, he could not

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<v Speaker 5>possibly live up to the level that I have created

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<v Speaker 5>for a human being. Of like he is just he's

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<v Speaker 5>my favorite person to listen to. I learned so much

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<v Speaker 5>from him. He's just got this phenomenal story. He comes from,

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<v Speaker 5>like the opposite of privilege. You know, everything he has done,

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<v Speaker 5>he has really done himself, and he's so generous with

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<v Speaker 5>that knowledge, and he's got this real deep desire to

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<v Speaker 5>kind of impart that knowledge onto other people so that

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<v Speaker 5>they can make themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>Better, which I love.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyway, we got off this call and I turned to

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<v Speaker 5>brit and I was like, I don't even know how,

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<v Speaker 5>but he was better.

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<v Speaker 3>Than I ever could have wished.

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<v Speaker 5>We were given a really limited timeframe with him, which

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<v Speaker 5>Britta and I definitely pushed the boundaries of Thank you Stephen,

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<v Speaker 5>like double it just a little bit of a heads

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<v Speaker 5>up his WiFi connection was not great, so the audio

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<v Speaker 5>is not the most clear that you would expect, but

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<v Speaker 5>you know what we did what we could.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think that was the biggest takeaway from

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<v Speaker 3>the interview?

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<v Speaker 1>I think there were two main parts.

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<v Speaker 5>For me. Stephen really went into detail of how he

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<v Speaker 5>thinks he's become as successful as he has, and it's

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<v Speaker 5>all about sweating the small stuff. So he's all about

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<v Speaker 5>the one percenters. And what I really liked about that

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<v Speaker 5>is that if you apply that to your own life,

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<v Speaker 5>it's like if you tried to make your life or

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<v Speaker 5>your business fifty percent better in the one go, that's

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<v Speaker 5>a really hard thing to do, but maneuvering one percent

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<v Speaker 5>is actually not that difficult. But it's the accumulation of

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<v Speaker 5>those one percent changes that can make either you a

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<v Speaker 5>better person or your.

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<v Speaker 3>Business much more successful. I really liked that.

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<v Speaker 5>And the other part that I absolutely loved it was

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<v Speaker 5>from this new law that he's written about in his book,

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<v Speaker 5>was that you should never disagree. I'm quite interested in

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<v Speaker 5>the psychology of communication, and I think anyone who listens

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<v Speaker 5>to Life on Cut would be as well, because we

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<v Speaker 5>talk about communication literally every episode, and so he has

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<v Speaker 5>this philosophy that for you to have a really good

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<v Speaker 5>relationship or even a business relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>It could be a friendship.

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<v Speaker 5>Going into a conversation and being like, actually, I disagree

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<v Speaker 5>with you or I disagree with that, you're never gonna

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<v Speaker 5>get the outcome because they've scientifically shown that people's brains

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<v Speaker 5>shut down and they're not as open to hearing alternate

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<v Speaker 5>ideas if you're just like no, I disagree with that.

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<v Speaker 5>So the way that he speaks about how you can

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<v Speaker 5>kind of sidestep those conversations and have your point be

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<v Speaker 5>heard and have the other person feel heard and.

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<v Speaker 3>Understood, it was really, really, really good advice.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like women have been doing this to their

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<v Speaker 2>husbands for years. It's like where you suggest something, but

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<v Speaker 2>you lead them to believe that it was their decision.

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<v Speaker 3>In the first half. I you're like, well done, honey,

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<v Speaker 3>that's great. I'm glad you got there. So like that

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<v Speaker 3>you came up with that. Another thing he talks about

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<v Speaker 3>is the idea that you should piss people off.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to piss people off to grow and to

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<v Speaker 1>be successful. And we talk about the why, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think most of us want people to like us, and

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<v Speaker 1>we want to go into a meeting or Instagram stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever we want to go in smooth calm, get people

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<v Speaker 1>on board. If people agree with me and they like me,

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<v Speaker 1>they might follow me. That that's going to lead to business growth.

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<v Speaker 1>But he turns that idea on his head. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting to hear why. One of the things that

0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Stephen does on his podcast with every single guest at

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<v Speaker 1>the end, he gets the guest to pose a question

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<v Speaker 1>to whoever Steven's next guest next week is going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>So the guest is asking the question, doesn't know who's

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<v Speaker 1>going to answer it. They just throw any question out there.

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<v Speaker 1>The next week comes around, Steven gets the new guest

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<v Speaker 1>to answer that question. So we got Stephen to do

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<v Speaker 1>this for us. We will like, let's put this on you.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's make you do what you make everyone else do.

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<v Speaker 1>Ask us a question and we'll answer it next week.

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<v Speaker 4>His question was I want you to ask each other.

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<v Speaker 6>How you could both people to send that up?

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<v Speaker 1>Now. I found this really interesting because it is a

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<v Speaker 1>really hot take to sweat the small stuff, because we're

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<v Speaker 1>so often saying don't sweat the small stuff, it doesn't matter,

0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:54.400
<v Speaker 1>it's irrelevant, And his idea is it one hundred percent matters.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is something that you can change your life

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<v Speaker 1>that will make you one percent better?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, before I get into the thing that I

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<v Speaker 2>think would change my life more than one percent. I

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<v Speaker 2>do think that sometimes we look at people who are

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<v Speaker 2>attention detail orientated, it's like it's a negative trait. There's

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<v Speaker 2>such a perfectionist is the word that we usually use

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<v Speaker 2>to describe people who are detail orientated, who do sweat

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<v Speaker 2>the small stuff, And it's not really said it as

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<v Speaker 2>a positive. I know, obviously detail orientated is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like what shows up on preasure Maze, it shows up

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<v Speaker 2>on applications. But I think people who do fixate and

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<v Speaker 2>who do worry and sweat about the small stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>can also then turn into a negative. And maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>because we then kind of think that those people labor

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<v Speaker 2>or they harbor and they never make decisions, or they're

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<v Speaker 2>too wrapped up in their work, or maybe they micromanage.

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<v Speaker 2>But I even know, like for us and for where

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<v Speaker 2>we've gotten with podcasting, I think a big part of

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<v Speaker 2>why it's been really successful is that we do sweat

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<v Speaker 2>the small stuff when it comes to the podcast, like

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<v Speaker 2>we have over time and even since very first days

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<v Speaker 2>we've edited this podcast to make sure that it is

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<v Speaker 2>only the stuff that we find the most interesting that makes.

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<v Speaker 3>All that we don't leave.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't leave like there's a lot of fat that

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<v Speaker 2>gets left on the cutting room floor, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that that is such an important thing rather than thinking

0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:09.760
<v Speaker 2>people have the perception that podcasting is just you rock

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<v Speaker 2>up in a room and you just chat and then

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<v Speaker 2>you record for an hour and then you put that out.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think many people are aware about the nuances

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<v Speaker 2>that happen within many many businesses or businesses, which is

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<v Speaker 2>what makes them successful, and it is the detail stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that really count.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, I don't think a lot of people see that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people see not for you,

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<v Speaker 1>but in life in general, a lot of people see

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<v Speaker 1>this extra attention to detail, and sometimes it can be

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<v Speaker 1>too much, Like in some jobs, it can be not

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<v Speaker 1>necessary for the task, for sure, and it.

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<v Speaker 3>Can also be debilitated.

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<v Speaker 2>It can stop you from actually taking steps forward if

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<v Speaker 2>you spend so much time worrying about something being perfect

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<v Speaker 2>before you take the next step. It is often for

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people debilitating, and it means they never

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<v Speaker 2>actually get that project off the ground, they never start

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<v Speaker 2>their small business whatever it is, because they're too busy

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<v Speaker 2>worrying about something being perfect rather than just being good

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<v Speaker 2>and being enough to get it done.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a very fine line.

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<v Speaker 1>I think for me, two things that I thought about

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<v Speaker 1>for one percent, how I mean two things. It was

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<v Speaker 1>hard to narrow it down. That was a final list.

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<v Speaker 4>How can you make it?

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<v Speaker 3>How can you make your life one percent better?

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, well, here is seventy things, and it would

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<v Speaker 2>be seventy percent better totally.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is what he says, Right, you write all

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<v Speaker 1>these things down, but if you're doing one percent a day,

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<v Speaker 1>it quickly adds up one percent a week.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>You make one of these little changes, and it makes

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<v Speaker 1>so much sense. But I think two things for me,

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<v Speaker 1>no brainer. Put things in a diary more, be more organized,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, like that's so obvious to me. But the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing I think I should start doing, and you

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<v Speaker 1>hear almost every successful person say it is that they

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<v Speaker 1>wake up earlier and they wake up at the same

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<v Speaker 1>time of day. Without doubt, you get more done when

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<v Speaker 1>you wake up in the morning. Now that's not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>with kids, obviously, because life's chaotic, but as a general

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<v Speaker 1>rule of thumb, no.

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<v Speaker 2>I think even with kids, like the days where I've

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<v Speaker 2>gotten them up and gotten them out of the house

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<v Speaker 2>and gotten them to daycare. You know, when daycare opens

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<v Speaker 2>seven thirty or eight o'clock, my days are infinitely more organized.

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<v Speaker 2>They are infinitely better because I've been able to get

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<v Speaker 2>two hours of work done.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I think for me, getting up earlier, so

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<v Speaker 1>making that if there's no work, the same time of

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<v Speaker 1>day every day and routine. So maybe it's now to

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<v Speaker 1>start to wait, whether at six am, seven am, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is, to wake up and do my exercise first thing,

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<v Speaker 1>because I find I'm not as productive if I get

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<v Speaker 1>up later. Three quarters of the day's gone before I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting my head together and my shit together. And then

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<v Speaker 1>because my work day starts later, I don't exercise that day.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll walk Delilah, but I don't go to the gym,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't train properly, I don't do anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Whereas the days that.

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<v Speaker 1>I got up earlier, I accomplish so much. So for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it might be starting to get into routine, set an

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<v Speaker 1>alarm early every single day, and getting my shit together

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's my one percent.

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<v Speaker 2>I think my one percent pertains to more my relationships

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<v Speaker 2>rather than my work, but it affects everything. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is something that I think over the past six months,

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<v Speaker 2>I've become increasingly worse at as my workload gets busier.

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<v Speaker 2>I often will then stay up past when I finish

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<v Speaker 2>my work, just sitting on my phone on Instagram, just

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<v Speaker 2>scroll like doom, scrolling right. And I think sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 2>because like that's my billy to garner back a little

0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:04.399
<v Speaker 2>bit of time for myself, and it's completely mind numbing.

0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:05.879
<v Speaker 2>I don't have to think about it, and I'm just

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:08.800
<v Speaker 2>sitting on my phone and scrolling funny content. Something that

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<v Speaker 2>Matt and I do when we're both tired and we

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<v Speaker 2>both are kind of just like at our flattest, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>sit on the couch and we'll pull out social media

0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:17.919
<v Speaker 2>and we'll be laying on the couch across from each other,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're both on our phones and we're scrolling. And

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<v Speaker 2>we've been doing it increasingly lately. And also I have

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<v Speaker 2>noticed the direct correlation to us like not being as

0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:29.360
<v Speaker 2>loving towards each other, you know, like we've been stressed,

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<v Speaker 2>and I, you know, I talked about this a few

0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 2>weeks back, Like we're not in a bad place by

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<v Speaker 2>any means, But when you have little time and then

0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:37.920
<v Speaker 2>you choose to spend what little time you have scrolling

0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:39.960
<v Speaker 2>social media as opposed to actually trying to have a

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:42.440
<v Speaker 2>conversation with each other, and you can put it down to, oh, well,

0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:44.320
<v Speaker 2>it's ten thirty pm at night, what a conversation we're

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:45.320
<v Speaker 2>going to have, but.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not even trying because we're on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, it's not even necessarily the conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>I totally agree.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe there's a rule now that you put your

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<v Speaker 1>phone away at ten o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, And look, that's so obvious, it's so cutsy,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know that every fucking podcast under the sun's like,

0:25:58.320 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 2>what your phone away after seventh?

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<v Speaker 3>But we are still still realistic. Everyone still does it.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone knows the things that we're supposed to do to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to garner more quality time with their partners,

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 2>and yet so many of us are still so guilty,

0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:12.040
<v Speaker 2>especially if you're in a long term relationship and you've

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 2>got kids, of just using it as escapism.

0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:16.679
<v Speaker 1>Well, what I was going to say is not like

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<v Speaker 1>I know that you said, yo, fuck, what else is

0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 1>that to talk about at ten o'clock at night? But

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:23.239
<v Speaker 1>it's connection tot you could not say a word, but

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<v Speaker 1>maybe instead of sitting on other ends of the lounge,

0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:29.639
<v Speaker 1>you're spooning watching a movie. But there's physical affection, there's contact,

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:34.120
<v Speaker 1>there's intimacy without verbally communicating, which I think is super important.

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Like just that intimacy without talking works one day totally.

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:39.280
<v Speaker 2>And the other thing is is when you're in your phone.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if other people experience this. When

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<v Speaker 2>you're in your phone, even if it's not productive, if

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:46.080
<v Speaker 2>someone is talking to you or they're asking you a question,

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:48.680
<v Speaker 2>it's hard to completely go, oh, okay, I'm gonna stop

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:51.080
<v Speaker 2>what I'm doing. Even if what you're doing is totally

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 2>non productive. If you're watching a funny video or you're

0:26:54.440 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 2>scrolling Instagram, you are not fully engaged with what that

0:26:57.119 --> 0:26:59.480
<v Speaker 2>person is saying to you. So even if attempts are

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:02.480
<v Speaker 2>made to have conversations, they're derailed by the fact that

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 2>your attention is already spent elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Kisha, You're one percent is not allowed to have anything

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:07.399
<v Speaker 1>to do with sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm vetoing it. No pillows, no sleep, no like.

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:16.240
<v Speaker 2>I have this amazing sleep spray which I have been

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:17.120
<v Speaker 2>We know about it.

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 3>He had an alleged reaction to it last night.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I can keep using it, Laura.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I had two that kind of sprung to

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<v Speaker 5>mind where I was like, I could be a lot

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:28.719
<v Speaker 5>better in these ways. One of them is definitely being

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:31.160
<v Speaker 5>more deliberate with my time, which is very much related

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:33.879
<v Speaker 5>to like the phone usage and being present and all

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 5>that kind of thing. The other thing that I really

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 5>sat and thought about is that in the last couple

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<v Speaker 5>of weeks, and I don't know why, in particular, it

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:42.439
<v Speaker 5>has been in the last few weeks, I have found

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 5>myself being very, very irritable and particularly lacking a bit

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:51.479
<v Speaker 5>of compassion in a sense where like if I'll get

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 5>a work email that kind of annoys me, or if

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:56.399
<v Speaker 5>someone you know hasn't done something that I've expected, or

0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 5>there's so many different things that have happened in the

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<v Speaker 5>past couple of weeks where I now I'm reflecting back

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:03.000
<v Speaker 5>on those situations and being like, do you know what,

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:05.280
<v Speaker 5>I actually could have added a little bit more compassionate

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<v Speaker 5>and empathy to those situations and I would have been

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<v Speaker 5>in a better mood from it by just realizing that

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 5>sometimes people have things going on that you have no

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<v Speaker 5>idea about and you.

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<v Speaker 3>Just got to give them a bit grace.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't funny how your reaction to something can so fundamentally

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<v Speaker 2>ruin your day and the other person walks away not

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<v Speaker 2>even not even being affected by it, you know, whether

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:27.239
<v Speaker 2>it be fucking something like road rage, or whether it

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 2>be that an email has pessed you off. Like we

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 2>can ruminate in our bad reaction to something in our

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 2>bad mood, and the person who may have been the

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<v Speaker 2>instigator of that doesn't give a fuck, does not care,

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<v Speaker 2>and they've just gone on their life completely unaffected. And

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 2>we are the ones, because of our reaction to a situation,

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 2>are harboring all that resentment or impatience or anger over

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 2>something that really if we had controlled our reaction, we

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 2>would have had a better day long term.

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<v Speaker 3>One hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 5>And so that's where my one percent needs to be better.

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<v Speaker 5>At the moment, I think I just need to kind

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<v Speaker 5>of maybe attempt to lose that irritability and be a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit more water off a duck's back. Little things

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<v Speaker 5>annoying me, because I've found that in the last couple

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<v Speaker 5>of weeks they've just been little things, But there might

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<v Speaker 5>be five little things and so I'll be in a

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:09.080
<v Speaker 5>bad mood with myself, I'll be in a bad mood

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:11.680
<v Speaker 5>with everybody around me. I've definitely taken it out on

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 5>my boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>Check and she's talking about our work emails.

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<v Speaker 5>To be fair, though we have had a lot of email,

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<v Speaker 5>particularly because of the live show coming up, There's just

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<v Speaker 5>been so many little things that I'm like, yep, I

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 5>need to turn that understanding back on and also just

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 5>give people a bit more grace for things that I

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<v Speaker 5>may not know that they're managing.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love before we get into this chat with

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<v Speaker 2>Steven Barlett, I would love you guys as listeners, to

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<v Speaker 2>all have a little think about what is that one

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<v Speaker 2>percent that you could do in your life, whether it

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<v Speaker 2>be in terms of your work. I think that there's like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go for the two percent. What is it that

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 2>you could do in terms of your work, and what

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 2>is it that you could do in terms of your

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<v Speaker 2>personal life that you could change that would make your

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<v Speaker 2>life one percent better? And I think that this is

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<v Speaker 2>such an incredible tool that we can all use to

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<v Speaker 2>make very small but incrementally amazing and really beneficial changes

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<v Speaker 2>within our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it'd actually be really cool to even do

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<v Speaker 1>it for fair to do it with their kids, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can ask your kids these questions at

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<v Speaker 1>school in their day to day like they obviously going

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 1>to have completely different answers. But I think Laura maybe

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<v Speaker 1>ask Marley if she can ask her, is there one

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<v Speaker 1>thing today you could do you think that would make

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<v Speaker 1>life better? It'd be so interesting. I think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a funny response to It'd be so interested to

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<v Speaker 1>see what she said. Stephen Bartlett is the host of

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<v Speaker 1>the Diary of a CEO, one of the most listened

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<v Speaker 1>to podcasts.

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<v Speaker 3>In literally the world.

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 1>He's an incredibly successful businessman and entrepreneur. He's also an

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<v Speaker 1>author and an investor on Dragon's Den. Now Dragon's Den

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 1>is like the UK version of our Shark Tank. The

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 1>reason for this is he's been the CEO, founder, co founder,

0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 1>and board member of four industry leading companies that collectively,

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 1>at their peaks, reached a valuation of more than one

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:52.520
<v Speaker 1>billion dollars. And this was all before the age of thirty. Stephen,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Life Uncut. We're very excited to talk to you.

0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:58.480
<v Speaker 1>It's been a long time coming. But before we get

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<v Speaker 1>into the chat, we have a tradition of our own,

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 1>and we begin every episode with every guest with an

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<v Speaker 1>accidentally unfiltered your most embarrassing story.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have one?

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<v Speaker 6>I have a few. They're all involved my mother.

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<v Speaker 4>I think my most is aunt. How old I've been

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<v Speaker 4>about seven years old. I climbed onto the roof and

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<v Speaker 4>started running around on the roof naked with my brother,

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 4>and so my mom came home and she spanked me.

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<v Speaker 6>In front of crush on.

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<v Speaker 4>So this across the street and I write about it

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<v Speaker 4>in my first book, Like this girl across the street

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<v Speaker 4>was in my house and she was like making eye

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 4>contact with me while my mother was spanking me naked

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 4>in front of her, and I like, really really well,

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 4>And from that moment onwards, I never saw that guy again.

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<v Speaker 5>Steven, why were you naked though? Like that was a choice.

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:49.959
<v Speaker 4>With your seven you're always naked. And yeah, the spanking

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 4>in front of the past, Like, imagine being spanked in

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 4>front of the person you fancy you have a crush on.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really you can't come back from that.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, speaking about your childhood, you weren't born into

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:01.960
<v Speaker 5>immense privilege, given you know, a small loan of a

0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:05.560
<v Speaker 5>million dollars by my father, like Trump was, So what

0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 5>was your life like growing up?

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<v Speaker 6>Like?

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<v Speaker 5>What was your upbringing like?

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<v Speaker 4>We came from Africa when I was two or three

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<v Speaker 4>years old. When we came here from Africa to the UK,

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<v Speaker 4>and we moved to pretty much all white area, we

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 4>were pretty much the poorest family in that area, and

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 4>we were pretty much the only black family that I

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 4>can recall in that area. So we understand the value

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<v Speaker 4>of anything by the context.

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<v Speaker 6>In which we see it.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, if you go to an electronic store

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<v Speaker 4>in this three televisions, your brain actually uses the really

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 4>expensive TV and the cheap TV to understand the value

0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 4>of all the TV. So it's the same when you

0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:39.240
<v Speaker 4>go to a restaurant and you see like three stakes

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 4>on the menu, you're actually using the context to understand

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<v Speaker 4>that this one is really nice and expensive, this one's

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<v Speaker 4>probably not going to be great, and that one's probably

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<v Speaker 4>a nice balance of the two. And in the same regard,

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<v Speaker 4>we do that with ourselves. The context in which we

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<v Speaker 4>see ourselves determines the value. If there's no one on earth,

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<v Speaker 4>I am both the prettiest, the richest, the faddest, the skinniest,

0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:00.400
<v Speaker 4>everything personal on earth. It's all comparison and con text,

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 4>and so my comparison in context taught me that I

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<v Speaker 4>was different and less than and that's a very sort

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<v Speaker 4>of deep feeling to have as a child, that sense

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<v Speaker 4>of embarrassment, shame and insecurity. So I grow up with

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<v Speaker 4>this huge feeling that I am not enough and that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm embarrassed, and that money is the problem, is the

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<v Speaker 4>root of all arguments, and that to fit in and

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<v Speaker 4>be enough, I need to become like my rich wife friends.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I did everything at that age to be

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<v Speaker 4>my rich wife friends. I chemically relaxed my hair at

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<v Speaker 4>the time, I was wearing the skinny jeans and listening

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<v Speaker 4>to arc to Monkeys and the Kooks when I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't really into that stuff. And then the other part

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<v Speaker 4>of me was just doing everything I could to get

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<v Speaker 4>money by any means necessary, and as a young man,

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<v Speaker 4>that meant starting businesses, selling things around the house, doing

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<v Speaker 4>deals with vending machine companies from my school by the

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<v Speaker 4>age of fourteen fifteen sixteen, and running all of the

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<v Speaker 4>school trips in sixth form, if we're going to a

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<v Speaker 4>theme park, or we're going we're having a party, it's

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<v Speaker 4>all coming through Steve I'm doing all the advertising for it,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I get expelled from school. I get unexpelled

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<v Speaker 4>because I'm making the school a lot of money, go

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<v Speaker 4>to university at eighteen, drop out after one lecture, and

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<v Speaker 4>karry on doing my business.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you feel like the reason you're so successful

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<v Speaker 1>now and the drive behind your success as a child,

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<v Speaker 1>even as a child businessman, was to fit in?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I guess in a way, I think it's really

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<v Speaker 4>the thing that invalidates you ends up being the thing

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 4>that you seek validation from. So if you're invalidated by

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 4>how you look, you probably grow up trying to seek

0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:20.880
<v Speaker 4>validation from how you look. And if you're feeling validated

0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 4>by by money or not being like other people, that

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:26.359
<v Speaker 4>will become your drive or the thing that's dragging you.

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<v Speaker 4>And in my case, I certainly felt that the biggest

0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:31.600
<v Speaker 4>problem in my life was that I was poor and

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:34.840
<v Speaker 4>not like my friends. So the antidote to that is

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 4>to become rich and like your friends. So that's what

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 4>I did. That was my drive, and that's why I

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 4>think that's what my ambition was, to be honest at

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<v Speaker 4>that age.

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<v Speaker 5>Stephan, I'm really curious about this because I think that

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<v Speaker 5>when you're the type of person who wants to seek

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 5>validation out of any type of situation or relationship. Often,

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<v Speaker 5>when you actually get the success, it doesn't measure up

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<v Speaker 5>to what you expected it to. So when you became successful,

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 5>you know, your first business was very, very successful, did

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 5>you feel that sense of validation from that success or

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:06.600
<v Speaker 5>did the goalposts just shift?

0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:07.320
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>So it tends to be the case with most people

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<v Speaker 4>that And this isn't quite an unfortunate thing that if

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 4>the force that's dragging you towards validation is really really strong,

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 4>for most people, they're going to require their hypothesis to

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 4>fail them, so that dream to fail them. And when

0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 4>I say fail that, I mean for it to not

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 4>give you what you thought it was going to give you,

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:30.920
<v Speaker 4>for you to understand that it wasn't the right dream.

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 4>For some people, when the horse isn't strong, they can

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:37.280
<v Speaker 4>maybe vicariously learn it, read a book, watch a podcast,

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:38.759
<v Speaker 4>and go Okay, maybe I'm wrong here, and they can

0:35:38.760 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 4>reflect their way out of it. But in my case,

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 4>the shame and the insecurity and the desire to have

0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:46.840
<v Speaker 4>money and to be validated was so strong that I

0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:48.919
<v Speaker 4>needed to climb that mountain and get to the top

0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 4>and realize it wasn't that you ass looking for so

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 4>eighteen years old. They're right in my diary, my four

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 4>girls before I'm twenty five, and at this time I'm

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 4>literally shoplifting pizzas to feed myself. Goal number one, A

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:00.200
<v Speaker 4>ranger of a sport will be my first car, make

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 4>a million pounds. From twenty five, I'll have a six

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 4>pack and a girlfriend. Did all of those things by

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:08.480
<v Speaker 4>about twenty three, twenty four, and it was a strange

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 4>feeling of anti climax and confusion, as if someone had

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:13.840
<v Speaker 4>lied to me, or something had lied to me, because

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 4>there was no confetti match, and there wasn't the euphoria

0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:19.399
<v Speaker 4>that I was expecting. It didn't solve for or fill

0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:22.319
<v Speaker 4>the hole that I thought money or a car or

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:25.239
<v Speaker 4>whatever could fill. And at some stage I come to

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:27.799
<v Speaker 4>learn in my journey that like really like if you

0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 4>don't believe. And this woman came to my office once

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:32.439
<v Speaker 4>and she said this sentence, She said, what if you're

0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 4>already enough? What if you already have everything you need?

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 4>And I remember thinking that is so stupid walking back

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<v Speaker 4>to my desk, and then it kind of puzzling me.

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<v Speaker 4>It took me a couple of years really reflecting on

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 4>what she said to realize that if you don't think

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 4>you're enough now, no goal or podium position or medal

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 4>or public accolade is ever going to fill that because fundamentally,

0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:56.799
<v Speaker 4>one Stephen Bartlett is always going to be worth one

0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:59.759
<v Speaker 4>Stephen Barlett. There's no amount of money that's going to

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 4>increase my like intrinsic internal sense of worth. So it's

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 4>either now or never. Like, if you defer your happiness

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 4>or your sense of self worth off into the future

0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:09.560
<v Speaker 4>behind some goal, it will always be.

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:10.360
<v Speaker 6>Off in the future.

0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:12.920
<v Speaker 4>And when I started to realize that having my dreams

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<v Speaker 4>fail me because they didn't deliver on the euphoria I

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:17.799
<v Speaker 4>was expecting, I realized that the ambitions I'd had in

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 4>my life were fake ambitions. And most of us are

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 4>living out fake ambitions, and we don't even know we're

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:24.279
<v Speaker 4>living out fake ambitions. I see it so much in

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 4>young people when they come up to me after I've

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 4>spoken on stage and they say I want to be

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:29.120
<v Speaker 4>a public speaker, and I go, what do you want

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:32.399
<v Speaker 4>to speak about? And they going, now, like I want

0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:33.480
<v Speaker 4>to be a public I'm like, why do you want

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:34.320
<v Speaker 4>to be a public speaker.

0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know it's uh because they want the glory.

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:42.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And we confuse so easily aspiration with admiration. We

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:45.319
<v Speaker 4>admire something, so we aspire to be. They're two very

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:48.799
<v Speaker 4>different things. Admiration is like I love what Oprah Winfrey does.

0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 4>Aspirations I want to become Oprah Winfrey. We should keep

0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:54.120
<v Speaker 4>them separate. You know, you could admire someone with that

0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:56.439
<v Speaker 4>aspiring to be somebody. And really, when I dig down

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<v Speaker 4>into that guy that comes up to me after I

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<v Speaker 4>speak on stage, he doesn't want to be a public speaker.

0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 4>He wants the admiration he just saw me get from

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<v Speaker 4>the applause from the crowd because he is insecure and

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:09.399
<v Speaker 4>he's still trying to prove to his dad he's enough.

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<v Speaker 4>And the problem is, if you run down those paths,

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<v Speaker 4>you waste a ton of your life. And it's actually

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<v Speaker 4>really difficult to go down a path where you're not

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<v Speaker 4>intrinsically internally driven by the rewards on offer. So I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's important for all of us to really ask

0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:25.279
<v Speaker 4>ourselves that question continuously, which is like why am I

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:27.560
<v Speaker 4>doing what I'm doing? Like truly, why am I doing

0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:30.160
<v Speaker 4>what I'm doing? The crazy thing is when you orientate

0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 4>your life towards real ambitions, things that deeply within you

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:35.680
<v Speaker 4>you would do regardless of applause. That's when you set

0:38:35.719 --> 0:38:39.280
<v Speaker 4>yourself up for mastery in real success, internal success like fulfillment,

0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 4>psychological happiness, but also real material success, because that's where

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:47.360
<v Speaker 4>mastery comes from. And I think that's where my podcast

0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 4>is successful, because it's something that I would do regardless

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 4>of by the people were listening.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny we say the same thing. We did this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast for a solid year before we made a dollar,

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 1>and I remember we made our first five thousand dollars

0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 1>and we were celebrated. We were now We thought it

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:02.759
<v Speaker 1>was the best thing since sliced bread. And everybody kept

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:04.360
<v Speaker 1>saying to us, why are you doing it? There's no

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:06.200
<v Speaker 1>money in it, You're never going to make it anywhere,

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:08.560
<v Speaker 1>and we just thought, well, because it's our passion. And

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<v Speaker 1>I really do think there's something in If you follow

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 1>your passion, the rest will come. The success that you've

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<v Speaker 1>had now, the money and the admiration, the validation, everything

0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:18.600
<v Speaker 1>that you get, everything that comes with it. How has

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<v Speaker 1>this changed the relationships in your life, the instrumental relationships

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<v Speaker 1>with people you might date, with your family, members, your mum,

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 1>and people that you find maybe want to come into

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<v Speaker 1>your life for the wrong reason.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, like, not at all, because the same or in

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<v Speaker 4>my life other than my girlfriend ten years ago, the

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:37.759
<v Speaker 4>same people in my life now. And I mean it

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<v Speaker 4>helps me pay for stuff for my parents, but outside

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<v Speaker 4>of that, there's been no change. My five best friends

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<v Speaker 4>and my five best friends, they were my five best

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<v Speaker 4>friends ten years ago. And I don't go to celebrity

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 4>parties and shmooths. I don't accept the invites to all

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:52.960
<v Speaker 4>of the fancy places. I just don't see a huge

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<v Speaker 4>amount of value in that. It's not going to do

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<v Speaker 4>anything for me to go and hang around with a

0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:59.880
<v Speaker 4>list celebrities. It's not the type of person I am, honestly, like,

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 4>I get to meet great people here at my table

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 4>on the podcast, they come here to my house here

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<v Speaker 4>in la in our studio in New York, but outside

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<v Speaker 4>of that, I'm just not interested in it. I'm like

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<v Speaker 4>well aware that it will do nothing for me. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>well aware that all of that stuff I don't own,

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:16.440
<v Speaker 4>designer things. I could own every designer thing if I

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 4>if I let myself loose, doesn't do anything for me.

0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:20.399
<v Speaker 4>I wear the same out for every day.

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<v Speaker 5>I was about to say, I don't think I've ever

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<v Speaker 5>seen you in anything other than a black T shirt.

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<v Speaker 4>It works, doesn't it?

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<v Speaker 3>On my coloring?

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<v Speaker 4>I wear this to work, and then I go from

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<v Speaker 4>work to the gym, so and this is called twenty

0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:36.600
<v Speaker 4>four to seven, so it's like it's gym material. So

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<v Speaker 4>then the same with my trousers and my shoes that

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<v Speaker 4>someone out for every day, and I have forty of

0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:44.520
<v Speaker 4>This outfit represents something forty versions of.

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<v Speaker 3>If it don't break, don't fix it exactly.

0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:48.840
<v Speaker 4>Like I'm not playing that game. I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 4>be a fashion like on you know what I'm saying.

0:40:51.000 --> 0:40:53.040
<v Speaker 4>It's not my game. I play other games. I play

0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:55.719
<v Speaker 4>this game, podcasting I do. I play the business, game

0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 4>Marked and game I write. Those are the games I'm playing.

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<v Speaker 4>So this can just be localgnitive expense.

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<v Speaker 3>Love that.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, speaking about you writing, you are releasing a brand

0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:08.560
<v Speaker 5>new book. It comes out today. It is called The

0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 5>Diary of CEO The Thirty three Laws of Business and Life,

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 5>and Britta and I were very fortunately sent an advanced

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:16.680
<v Speaker 5>copy of this to read through, and we had all

0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:18.839
<v Speaker 5>of twenty four hours to do so, what we did

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:23.759
<v Speaker 5>and something that I really I was very interested by.

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:26.279
<v Speaker 5>We talk a lot about relationships on this podcast, and

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:29.279
<v Speaker 5>I think something that we have learnt to say with

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<v Speaker 5>our partners is that at times you're going.

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<v Speaker 3>To have to agree to disagree.

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<v Speaker 5>But in your book, one of the laws that you

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:38.440
<v Speaker 5>wrote is that you must never disagree.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so we're all guilty of hearing something and on

0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:46.320
<v Speaker 4>a jerk reaction to something you know that's in conflict

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:48.160
<v Speaker 4>with our beliefs or something we didn't want to hear,

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:51.400
<v Speaker 4>is to say I disagree and then to make our point.

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<v Speaker 4>And I just think it's important to realize that from

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:57.840
<v Speaker 4>a neurological perspective, when you do that, the other person's

0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:00.000
<v Speaker 4>brain essentially shuts down. And this is what they've proven

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:03.400
<v Speaker 4>in multiple scientific studies. I expected Tully Sharrot, who's the

0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 4>neuroscientist that's done much of this research, and they just

0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:09.680
<v Speaker 4>scan people's brains and situations where there's disagreement and the

0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:12.359
<v Speaker 4>brain is basically shutting down, and when there's agreement, it's

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 4>lighting up. So if your objective is to persuade the

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:19.960
<v Speaker 4>other person of your opinion or to resonate or connect

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:23.400
<v Speaker 4>with another person, disagreement is not the pathway. That is

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:27.040
<v Speaker 4>not a bridge. The bridge is finding similarities and this

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:30.160
<v Speaker 4>is what the brain says. So instead of I disagree,

0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 4>a much more effective approach. If your goal is to

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:35.799
<v Speaker 4>be heard and understood and to further whatever you know

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:38.799
<v Speaker 4>subject matter opinion, you have a much better approach might

0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:41.200
<v Speaker 4>be to say something like I understand and hear what

0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 4>you're saying. I also think I understand what you're saying,

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 4>and then to make your opinion. But you should fight

0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:51.640
<v Speaker 4>desperately to keep their brain illuminated, because if you do that,

0:42:52.040 --> 0:42:54.400
<v Speaker 4>then you'll be hurt and understood yourself. And this is

0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 4>why we get into arguments that sound like two broken

0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 4>records just shouting at each other because you're both I disagree,

0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:01.879
<v Speaker 4>I disagree, I disagree. Both of your brains are closed off.

0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:05.400
<v Speaker 4>And so again it's difficult because when emotions come into play,

0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:07.799
<v Speaker 4>we all start acting on how we feel, much more

0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 4>than the knowledge that we have about how to communicate.

0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:12.960
<v Speaker 4>So it's a discipline in every regard. But think about it.

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<v Speaker 4>The only thing that stands in the way of you

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<v Speaker 4>being Prime Minister of Australia or the number one salesperson

0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:20.160
<v Speaker 4>in the world or the greatest philanthropist that's ever lived.

0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:23.200
<v Speaker 4>Is a bunch of human beings. There's no other obstacles

0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 4>in life. It's a bunch of other human beings saying

0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:28.360
<v Speaker 4>yes to you. And if you want to be effective

0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:29.960
<v Speaker 4>at getting humans to say yes to you, you have

0:43:30.000 --> 0:43:32.920
<v Speaker 4>to learn the simple skill of communication, which is the

0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:37.040
<v Speaker 4>skill of sales. So it's important, like it probably determines

0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 4>how far you're going to go in life, whether you

0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:41.399
<v Speaker 4>can persuade those human beings in your way of your

0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:44.680
<v Speaker 4>ideas and your opinion. So disagreeing is not a useful thing.

0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 4>Finding a way to agreeably disagree is super smart and it's.

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:50.360
<v Speaker 6>Been a game changer for me.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I'm in a relationship, it's difficult, you know, when

0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:55.920
<v Speaker 4>your partner says something, it's difficult to listen. Sometimes it's

0:43:55.920 --> 0:43:58.279
<v Speaker 4>difficult to understand. And it's difficult. For the first thing,

0:43:58.320 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 4>that when my partners, you know, upset for me to

0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:03.239
<v Speaker 4>repeat exactly back what she said to me, which is

0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:06.040
<v Speaker 4>what I do to make sure I understand. And it's

0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:08.799
<v Speaker 4>funny because I've been in relationships before where oh my god,

0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:13.240
<v Speaker 4>old Steve, you said to me once here and I'll

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:15.439
<v Speaker 4>just come back at you you say it to me twice.

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:18.319
<v Speaker 4>I'm leaving win my new relationship, which I have been

0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:20.239
<v Speaker 4>in now for four years, my partner says something to me.

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:22.840
<v Speaker 4>I listened to her, and I repeat back exactly what

0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:25.440
<v Speaker 4>I think she's feeling and thinking. And the minute I

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:29.040
<v Speaker 4>do that, the broken record player stops spinning and she listens.

0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:32.160
<v Speaker 4>It's the most magical thing I've ever seen. And it's

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:34.880
<v Speaker 4>an experiment I ran in my relationship. Repeat back to

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:36.919
<v Speaker 4>them what they said to you, and once they feel

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:38.719
<v Speaker 4>like they're understood, they won't feel they need to say

0:44:38.760 --> 0:44:41.960
<v Speaker 4>it again. And then from that place, they're open to

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:43.759
<v Speaker 4>hear what you have to say because they feel heard

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:46.239
<v Speaker 4>and understood, which is the foundation of communication.

0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:48.920
<v Speaker 5>That might be one of the best relationship bits of

0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:50.359
<v Speaker 5>advice I've ever heard.

0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:53.399
<v Speaker 3>I had Matthew Hawsey on the podcast No Don't Tell

0:44:53.440 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 3>Matthew hows to that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in a long distance relationship. My partner lives in

0:44:57.960 --> 0:45:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Scotland and he's Swiss, and I can't tell you how

0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 1>many times last night was a point of contention, but

0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 1>how many times we say to each other, you're not listening,

0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:09.440
<v Speaker 1>like you are not listening, and they say something back

0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:10.440
<v Speaker 1>and doesn't matter how many times.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we have different barriers.

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Obviously we don't see each other physically, and there's a

0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:15.440
<v Speaker 1>language barrier. But maybe this is something I need to

0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:17.080
<v Speaker 1>take on and like, we need to approach this in

0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:17.719
<v Speaker 1>a different way.

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:20.520
<v Speaker 3>I hear you, I see you. You're wrong, but let's

0:45:20.520 --> 0:45:23.560
<v Speaker 3>look at it this way. You don't say you're wrong disagreeing.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, yeah, Stephen.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the laws that I absolutely loved was this

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 1>law where you said you must piss people off. And

0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I love that because I feel like, without trying, I

0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:35.360
<v Speaker 1>probably do piss a lot of people off. Why do

0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:37.160
<v Speaker 1>you think we need to go through life and have

0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:38.000
<v Speaker 1>people pissed at us?

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:38.960
<v Speaker 3>Explain that a little bit.

0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 4>So it's not that you should try and piss people off.

0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:44.799
<v Speaker 4>It is the thing that you should try and do

0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:48.799
<v Speaker 4>has an unavoidable side effect of pissing people off. So

0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:51.640
<v Speaker 4>in any regard, whether you're a brand, whether you're trying

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:54.440
<v Speaker 4>to be heard and understood, the byproduct of that pursuit

0:45:54.440 --> 0:45:55.400
<v Speaker 4>is you're going to piss people off.

0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:56.040
<v Speaker 6>And here's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're a brand and you're in you know, let's

0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 4>take I don't know, a make brand for example, because

0:46:01.200 --> 0:46:02.799
<v Speaker 4>there's some makeup on my table here. I didn't wear

0:46:02.800 --> 0:46:04.200
<v Speaker 4>it today, but sometimes I wear it if I've got

0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:04.959
<v Speaker 4>really bat skin.

0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:07.279
<v Speaker 3>But I thought you were looking very conto it.

0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:10.239
<v Speaker 4>This is just a great filter from this software that

0:46:10.239 --> 0:46:13.480
<v Speaker 4>we're using. But I do have this makeuppey. So say

0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 4>you're a makeup brand, the way that you pierce through

0:46:15.680 --> 0:46:18.359
<v Speaker 4>a saturated market where everybody is saying the same things,

0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:21.400
<v Speaker 4>but everybody's saying we're environmentally friendly, we are cost effective,

0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:23.279
<v Speaker 4>we're good for your skin. All of your competitors are

0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 4>going to say the exact same thing. Therefore, the consumers

0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:29.000
<v Speaker 4>are all going to have heard the same messaging over

0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:31.280
<v Speaker 4>and over again. And there's this thing in our brain

0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:35.680
<v Speaker 4>that is a prehistoric device that makes sure we don't

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:38.560
<v Speaker 4>commit energy to things that we don't need to. So

0:46:38.600 --> 0:46:40.200
<v Speaker 4>it's the same reason why today, when you woke up

0:46:40.239 --> 0:46:43.640
<v Speaker 4>this morning, you guided through your house and got ready

0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:45.880
<v Speaker 4>without thinking. You didn't have to think about where the

0:46:45.920 --> 0:46:49.359
<v Speaker 4>kitchen was. Your brain, through this process called habituation, is

0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:53.280
<v Speaker 4>deprioritizing that information and it's on autopilot. The same happens

0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:55.719
<v Speaker 4>with messaging in life. So if you hear something every

0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 4>day like like and subscribe. We hear the same narratives

0:46:58.200 --> 0:47:00.480
<v Speaker 4>every day, or the same thing from your makeup company.

0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:02.480
<v Speaker 4>Your brain is just filtering it out. I call it

0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:05.520
<v Speaker 4>the wallpaper filter. It doesn't even know it's there. So

0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:08.000
<v Speaker 4>in order to be heard and understood in a world

0:47:08.080 --> 0:47:11.400
<v Speaker 4>where your brain is literally filtering everything out that isn't important,

0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:13.920
<v Speaker 4>so it can focus on the things that are, you

0:47:14.080 --> 0:47:16.799
<v Speaker 4>have to use language that beats that filter. You have

0:47:16.880 --> 0:47:20.520
<v Speaker 4>to have values that filter these makeup companies, they have to.

0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:22.840
<v Speaker 4>I was talking about this yesterday. It's my team members.

0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:27.160
<v Speaker 4>In saturated markets, you have to stand for something. You

0:47:27.160 --> 0:47:29.600
<v Speaker 4>have to create a situation where even with your podcast,

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 4>for example, you're so different because there's so many podcasts

0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:35.160
<v Speaker 4>out there that it's not I could listen to your

0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:39.560
<v Speaker 4>podcast or this podcast. It's your podcast or this podcast

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<v Speaker 4>because your values are so distinct and so clear and

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<v Speaker 4>so refined, which is why you pierce a saturated market

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<v Speaker 4>that it's not I could listen to both it's this

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<v Speaker 4>one or this one, because there's eighty percent of people

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<v Speaker 4>which just never listen to you guys, But that twenty percent,

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<v Speaker 4>because your values are so clear and distinctive, they love you.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think the best brands in the world that

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<v Speaker 4>I've studied and founders that I've spoken to, they do

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<v Speaker 4>they piss off eighty percent of people. Their messaging is

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<v Speaker 4>so clear, it is so unapologetic, it is so disruptive.

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<v Speaker 1>We had Mark Manson on the podcast a little while

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<v Speaker 1>ago for those listening, the author of The Suddle out

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<v Speaker 1>of Not Giving a Fuck.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think that this is a big reason.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, his book's incredible, but a big reason he had

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<v Speaker 1>such cut through at the beginning is because of the

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<v Speaker 1>language he used in this title.

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<v Speaker 6>One hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I talk about that in my book that

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<v Speaker 4>authors started swearing on the front covers for this very reason,

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<v Speaker 4>And when you've spoken. When I spoke to a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of people that publish these books, they said the same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>They said, we realized that a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 4>going to be annoyed by the swearing on these books.

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<v Speaker 4>But the upside is that we'll capture attention and we'll

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<v Speaker 4>make more sales. So case we're accepting the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>sixty percent of people are going to walk through bookstores

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<v Speaker 4>and be annoyed at us for swearing on the books.

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<v Speaker 4>We accept the fact that some bookshops won't even put

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<v Speaker 4>the book in there, But the forty percent that do

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<v Speaker 4>is going to be enough for us to make incrementally

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<v Speaker 4>more sales than we would have otherwise. This is a

0:48:58.400 --> 0:49:02.600
<v Speaker 4>point about like messaging language, personal brand. If you guys

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<v Speaker 4>take to social media and you start making social media

0:49:04.680 --> 0:49:07.160
<v Speaker 4>clips and there's thousands of clips and there's a short

0:49:07.160 --> 0:49:09.839
<v Speaker 4>amount of attention, the way you stand out is by

0:49:09.880 --> 0:49:13.879
<v Speaker 4>beating that wallpaper filter, using more provocative language than everybody else,

0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:16.879
<v Speaker 4>by having more clear, defined provocative values than everybody else,

0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:19.960
<v Speaker 4>standing for something more than anybody else, being the person

0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:21.719
<v Speaker 4>in the pub that is dancing on the table, not

0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:24.239
<v Speaker 4>sat on the chairs. By dancing on the table, you

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<v Speaker 4>piss some people off and some people like it. But

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<v Speaker 4>the least, I'll say, I'll conclude with this, the least

0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:31.359
<v Speaker 4>profitable outcome in life when you're building a personal brand,

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<v Speaker 4>starting a podcast, making a brand, or anything is indifference.

0:49:35.400 --> 0:49:37.600
<v Speaker 4>It is the worst place to be an indifference is

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<v Speaker 4>where nobody cares about this was written on the walls

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<v Speaker 4>of my company back in the day. Make them feel

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<v Speaker 4>something either way. In difference, where nobody cares, you can't

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<v Speaker 4>take that to the bank. You can take hate to

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<v Speaker 4>the bank and love to the bank. Both of that's attention.

0:49:51.760 --> 0:49:53.680
<v Speaker 4>You can't take an difference to the bank, and so

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<v Speaker 4>people are scared. Like if you think about people that

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<v Speaker 4>really break out, if we think just think about some

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<v Speaker 4>people that are like running cold right now, or even Trump.

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<v Speaker 6>You know that he's not indifferent.

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<v Speaker 3>Oprais on that outrage culture, doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>He Yeah, I feel like outrage cultures having a real moment.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe it's not genuine outrage. Maybe what we're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>is people that just want to create some noise, hate

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<v Speaker 1>or love. Because the old any publicity is good publishing.

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<v Speaker 5>In your book, you wrote and I'm quoting this in business, sports,

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<v Speaker 5>and academia, and individual's personal philosophies are the single biggest

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<v Speaker 5>predictors of how they'll behave now and in the future.

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<v Speaker 5>If you know someone's philosophy or belief so you can

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<v Speaker 5>accurately forecast how they'll behave in any situation. From this,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm really interested in what some of your philosophies are

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<v Speaker 5>and like how in the business world you have created

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<v Speaker 5>values that have led to consistent behavior within yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I've got so many important personal philosophies. I

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<v Speaker 4>would say that the most important one, as I believe

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<v Speaker 4>it now, is to sweat the small stuff. I genuinely believe, like,

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<v Speaker 4>if people think the podcast that we've done is big

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<v Speaker 4>this month, the thing we'll do my thayth for million downloads.

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<v Speaker 4>We just hit three million subscribers on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Sam songratulations.

0:51:08.640 --> 0:51:11.239
<v Speaker 4>Funny thing is not perform a good podcast host. And

0:51:11.360 --> 0:51:13.279
<v Speaker 4>I said this on LinkedIn the other day. It's not

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<v Speaker 4>because we have the most talented team in the world.

0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:17.680
<v Speaker 4>Because when Jack joined, he was the first employee. He'd

0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:19.960
<v Speaker 4>never done this before. He was a freelance felance of

0:51:20.000 --> 0:51:22.040
<v Speaker 4>that recorded stuff, but he wasn't it never made a

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<v Speaker 4>show before. The thing is and the thing where I go,

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<v Speaker 4>that's our big philosophical advantage of everybody and this is

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<v Speaker 4>the same in my businesses or anything that I get

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<v Speaker 4>involved in, is we absolutely care more about the small

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<v Speaker 4>stuff than everybody else.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's an interesting right.

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<v Speaker 4>So, like that's an interesting thing because you go, like

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<v Speaker 4>the table I'm sad at now is the table I

0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:45.760
<v Speaker 4>record the podcast. Act underneath this table, which you can't see,

0:51:46.000 --> 0:51:48.640
<v Speaker 4>there's a track pad, an Apple track pad glued to

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<v Speaker 4>the underside of the table. And when I'm doing the podcast,

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<v Speaker 4>if the guess is something interesting, I just click it.

0:51:53.680 --> 0:51:55.400
<v Speaker 4>You can't even see my hands. I click it with

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<v Speaker 4>my fingerpue using AI to my team, and that becomes

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<v Speaker 4>one of the titles and thumbnil we take ninety of

0:52:01.520 --> 0:52:03.799
<v Speaker 4>those titles and thumbs now so ninety clicks that I

0:52:03.840 --> 0:52:05.880
<v Speaker 4>did under the table. We run them as ads on

0:52:05.920 --> 0:52:08.200
<v Speaker 4>Facebook for the episode comes out for seven days to

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<v Speaker 4>find out which title and topic is the most important

0:52:10.360 --> 0:52:12.879
<v Speaker 4>to lead. I could tell you a million things we do.

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<v Speaker 4>They are tiny things, small small things, the temperature of

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<v Speaker 4>the room, knowing that when Israel Ada Sana got here,

0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:22.000
<v Speaker 4>the song double Up by Nipsey Hustle is a song

0:52:22.000 --> 0:52:24.480
<v Speaker 4>that makes him emotional and makes him open up. I

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<v Speaker 4>could tell you a million of these tiny things that

0:52:26.440 --> 0:52:29.279
<v Speaker 4>we do. And it's all of these little things that

0:52:29.320 --> 0:52:31.160
<v Speaker 4>have added up but no one sees. So people look

0:52:31.200 --> 0:52:33.239
<v Speaker 4>in and when they do their sort of dissection of

0:52:33.280 --> 0:52:35.360
<v Speaker 4>the Diri Ofverseea and I watch these on TikTok, They're like,

0:52:35.600 --> 0:52:37.759
<v Speaker 4>he's a good host, the trailers are great. I'm like, no, no, no,

0:52:37.760 --> 0:52:40.360
<v Speaker 4>no no no. It's all the stuff you can't see.

0:52:41.040 --> 0:52:42.480
<v Speaker 4>And that's and I can see it in the graph

0:52:42.520 --> 0:52:44.279
<v Speaker 4>I can see the graph is changing because of these

0:52:44.280 --> 0:52:47.799
<v Speaker 4>small tweaks. So my personal philosophy asn't related to success

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<v Speaker 4>is I'm absolutely obsessed with the smallest things. The thing

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<v Speaker 4>with the small stuff is things that are easy to do,

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<v Speaker 4>like saving one pounds of brushing your teeth, are also

0:52:56.160 --> 0:52:58.680
<v Speaker 4>therefore easy not to do, so most people don't do them.

0:52:58.680 --> 0:53:01.480
<v Speaker 4>They don't think they're important. I think they're really important.

0:53:01.600 --> 0:53:03.919
<v Speaker 4>And it's not just that. The other thing about doing

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<v Speaker 4>the small stuff is it's easier to find one hundred

0:53:07.760 --> 0:53:10.399
<v Speaker 4>tiny things than it is to find one big thing.

0:53:11.239 --> 0:53:14.000
<v Speaker 4>Like I can't reinvent the will with podcasting. I'm not

0:53:14.000 --> 0:53:16.080
<v Speaker 4>going to find a new YouTube or Spotify, am I.

0:53:16.520 --> 0:53:19.000
<v Speaker 4>I can find that it's very easy for a team

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<v Speaker 4>and for me to find one hundred small things, and

0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:24.319
<v Speaker 4>that equals one hundred percent gain. It actually is more

0:53:24.320 --> 0:53:26.440
<v Speaker 4>when things compound, It's much more than one hundred percent

0:53:26.480 --> 0:53:30.600
<v Speaker 4>if you're thinking about compounding returns. And also the science

0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:33.200
<v Speaker 4>has shown and I've sat here with Sir David Brailsford

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<v Speaker 4>who became the head of the English cycling team. He

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<v Speaker 4>went into that team when they were down and out

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<v Speaker 4>and winning nothing, and he turned it around to make

0:53:39.400 --> 0:53:41.360
<v Speaker 4>them the most successful team in the world. And he

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<v Speaker 4>had the same philosophy. He went and found out, can

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<v Speaker 4>I make the water bottles a little bit bigger? Can

0:53:45.880 --> 0:53:47.760
<v Speaker 4>I make the pillows in the hotels a little bit softer?

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<v Speaker 4>And it wasn't just the accumulation of many, many one

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<v Speaker 4>percent gains, he said to me, the most important thing

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<v Speaker 4>from a psychological perspective, when you find small gains or

0:53:57.480 --> 0:54:00.760
<v Speaker 4>any gains, is it makes your team feel like you're moving,

0:54:01.120 --> 0:54:03.440
<v Speaker 4>like you have a sense of progress. And he goes,

0:54:03.440 --> 0:54:05.880
<v Speaker 4>when I went into that English cycling team, we found

0:54:05.880 --> 0:54:08.520
<v Speaker 4>all of these small little ways to improve, and suddenly

0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:11.880
<v Speaker 4>this depressed team quote unquote, we felt like we were

0:54:11.960 --> 0:54:15.480
<v Speaker 4>going somewhere. So from a psychological perspective, you see our

0:54:15.520 --> 0:54:17.480
<v Speaker 4>team here when we find a one percent game, the

0:54:17.520 --> 0:54:19.719
<v Speaker 4>phrase one percent is the most popular phrase used in

0:54:19.760 --> 0:54:23.080
<v Speaker 4>our team. We have a head of experimentation, full time job,

0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:25.919
<v Speaker 4>a full time data scientist on the podcast again full

0:54:25.920 --> 0:54:28.279
<v Speaker 4>time job we've got from my CU and we have

0:54:28.320 --> 0:54:30.680
<v Speaker 4>a channel in our called the one percent Chat where

0:54:30.719 --> 0:54:33.279
<v Speaker 4>we're all looking for one percent games and when we

0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:36.840
<v Speaker 4>find what it's like a celebration, you know. And just

0:54:36.880 --> 0:54:39.880
<v Speaker 4>to conclude, their Harvard Business Review went and interviewed people

0:54:40.280 --> 0:54:43.200
<v Speaker 4>in work and asked them when their most enjoyable day

0:54:43.200 --> 0:54:45.359
<v Speaker 4>in work was. Then they looked at those days, and

0:54:45.440 --> 0:54:48.200
<v Speaker 4>people had pointed at days when they had a sense

0:54:48.239 --> 0:54:52.040
<v Speaker 4>of progress. So from a psychological perspective, it made people motivated.

0:54:52.280 --> 0:54:54.600
<v Speaker 4>From a business perspective, it adds up to change the game.

0:54:54.719 --> 0:54:56.600
<v Speaker 4>And I think all those small things equal a really

0:54:56.600 --> 0:55:00.440
<v Speaker 4>really big thing. That's my big personal philosophy for anyone

0:55:00.440 --> 0:55:02.839
<v Speaker 4>that's like just starting in a podcast, it is the

0:55:02.880 --> 0:55:05.719
<v Speaker 4>best news I can possibly give you because you don't

0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:08.520
<v Speaker 4>need to make some amazing higher We didn't. You don't

0:55:08.560 --> 0:55:11.200
<v Speaker 4>need to be super famous. I remember my manager walking

0:55:11.239 --> 0:55:13.200
<v Speaker 4>in one day and said he had anxiety because no

0:55:13.239 --> 0:55:15.239
<v Speaker 4>one wanted to come on the podcast and we needed

0:55:15.280 --> 0:55:16.280
<v Speaker 4>to put it out this week.

0:55:16.360 --> 0:55:18.120
<v Speaker 6>And I'm going, have you got any friends you can call? Steve?

0:55:18.160 --> 0:55:19.480
<v Speaker 4>So I called this guy called Dad, who was a

0:55:19.520 --> 0:55:22.239
<v Speaker 4>mate of mine. That is episode like seven. No one

0:55:22.360 --> 0:55:25.799
<v Speaker 4>was interested When you have seven thousand subscribers on YouTube, like,

0:55:25.800 --> 0:55:27.840
<v Speaker 4>no one's interested in it, wanted to come on. But

0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:31.280
<v Speaker 4>the thing and if you thok the last ninety days,

0:55:31.400 --> 0:55:33.960
<v Speaker 4>we've had a million more subscribers in the last ninety days,

0:55:34.160 --> 0:55:36.520
<v Speaker 4>so the laws of compounding sake goes really slow, and

0:55:36.560 --> 0:55:38.560
<v Speaker 4>asked did and then it went like the Burj Khalifa.

0:55:39.160 --> 0:55:42.000
<v Speaker 4>And honestly, the thing I'm pint at, which means it's

0:55:42.000 --> 0:55:44.879
<v Speaker 4>accessible to everybody, is look at what you're doing every

0:55:44.960 --> 0:55:48.400
<v Speaker 4>day and find a way to make it one percent better.

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<v Speaker 6>Isn't that easy to do? One percent?

0:55:50.880 --> 0:55:52.319
<v Speaker 5>I feel like that's what we're going to have to

0:55:52.360 --> 0:55:57.800
<v Speaker 5>call the name of this episode, one percent better. Yeah, Stephen.

0:55:57.880 --> 0:56:01.120
<v Speaker 5>Something I'd love to finish the podcast is in the

0:56:01.160 --> 0:56:04.000
<v Speaker 5>same way that you do your guest, pose a question

0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:06.839
<v Speaker 5>for your next guest without knowing who it's going to be.

0:56:07.440 --> 0:56:09.839
<v Speaker 3>What would your question be? For all of us?

0:56:10.040 --> 0:56:13.640
<v Speaker 5>Like listening to think about an answer between ourselves interesting.

0:56:14.440 --> 0:56:19.200
<v Speaker 4>So I want you to ask each other how you

0:56:19.200 --> 0:56:20.319
<v Speaker 4>could both be will to send better?

0:56:20.520 --> 0:56:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm only thinking about it.

0:56:22.239 --> 0:56:25.360
<v Speaker 4>So I remember Simon Sinek. One of the things that

0:56:25.400 --> 0:56:27.120
<v Speaker 4>me and Simon Sinic always do with each other.

0:56:27.120 --> 0:56:28.240
<v Speaker 5>My favorite episodes.

0:56:28.440 --> 0:56:32.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we give each other critical feedback, so he calls

0:56:32.120 --> 0:56:35.279
<v Speaker 4>it like notes. So we'll do something together and I'll

0:56:35.320 --> 0:56:38.520
<v Speaker 4>turn tim and say, Simon, how could I have been

0:56:38.560 --> 0:56:41.920
<v Speaker 4>better today? And he'll tell me honestly, and I believe

0:56:42.000 --> 0:56:44.520
<v Speaker 4>that a good criticism coming from a good place is

0:56:44.560 --> 0:56:46.480
<v Speaker 4>worth its weight in gold. It's much more useful their

0:56:46.520 --> 0:56:50.799
<v Speaker 4>five star review. So I would you two tell each

0:56:50.800 --> 0:56:52.359
<v Speaker 4>other how you both could be better?

0:56:52.440 --> 0:56:55.400
<v Speaker 6>I love that, as in you give pical feedback to

0:56:55.440 --> 0:56:55.759
<v Speaker 6>each other.

0:56:56.200 --> 0:56:59.439
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I love that because it quite uncomfortable conversations, which

0:56:59.440 --> 0:57:00.800
<v Speaker 4>I think and more important.

0:57:00.920 --> 0:57:02.400
<v Speaker 1>We're going to slide it back into dem and let

0:57:02.440 --> 0:57:03.399
<v Speaker 1>you know how we're going to be better.

0:57:03.560 --> 0:57:05.000
<v Speaker 3>Stephen. We are going to let you go.

0:57:05.200 --> 0:57:07.960
<v Speaker 1>But I have one last question, and that is if

0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:11.359
<v Speaker 1>you possibly can do this. Out of every interview you've

0:57:11.360 --> 0:57:13.960
<v Speaker 1>ever done, has there been one that's really stood out

0:57:14.000 --> 0:57:16.280
<v Speaker 1>where you've walked away and you're like, I've learnt so much,

0:57:16.400 --> 0:57:18.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm a different person now, something that's sort of at

0:57:18.760 --> 0:57:19.560
<v Speaker 1>the forefront.

0:57:19.760 --> 0:57:21.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'd say it was episode one hundred and one

0:57:21.880 --> 0:57:25.280
<v Speaker 4>with a guy called mo gor Dat. It was actually

0:57:25.600 --> 0:57:30.480
<v Speaker 4>the and he's not a list he wasn't a famous person.

0:57:30.720 --> 0:57:35.000
<v Speaker 4>So when you find out that in twenty twenty two,

0:57:35.400 --> 0:57:37.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to say it was the most shared podcast

0:57:37.960 --> 0:57:40.320
<v Speaker 4>episode in our country on Apple. According to Apple, they

0:57:40.320 --> 0:57:42.000
<v Speaker 4>released the data at the end of the year and

0:57:42.120 --> 0:57:44.640
<v Speaker 4>episode that episode was the most shared, and that's a

0:57:44.720 --> 0:57:47.760
<v Speaker 4>key thing shared. That means one friend passed it to another.

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<v Speaker 4>He was the ex head of Google who left when

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<v Speaker 4>his son died in a routine operation. Gave up everything

0:57:53.520 --> 0:57:54.800
<v Speaker 4>he had in his life. He was at very top

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<v Speaker 4>and said, give up everything. I'm just going to go

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<v Speaker 4>and find out what happiness is. And he goes on

0:57:58.680 --> 0:58:00.600
<v Speaker 4>this search to figure out what happiness is. And he

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<v Speaker 4>taught me so many things about managing your emotions, happiness

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<v Speaker 4>and managing your happiness as well. And one of the

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<v Speaker 4>key ideas he said to me, which I've always thought

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<v Speaker 4>about ever since, is he said to me, you're happy

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<v Speaker 4>when your expectations of how your life is supposed to

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<v Speaker 4>be going are met. And from that one can also

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<v Speaker 4>deduce that you're unhappy when your expectations of how your

0:58:21.800 --> 0:58:24.080
<v Speaker 4>life is supposed to be going go unmeat. And I

0:58:24.120 --> 0:58:27.000
<v Speaker 4>came from Botswana right at like two years old. In Botswana,

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<v Speaker 4>a nice hot bowl of rice for many people is

0:58:31.560 --> 0:58:34.320
<v Speaker 4>makes them happy. You come here to London and in

0:58:34.400 --> 0:58:38.080
<v Speaker 4>Mayfair in London, if a billionaire's steak isn't medium rare

0:58:38.160 --> 0:58:41.640
<v Speaker 4>like they requested. Visceral anger right, and you go, what's

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<v Speaker 4>the difference? You go under expectations and then look around

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<v Speaker 4>the rest of your life with your partner, your boyfriend,

0:58:47.200 --> 0:58:50.320
<v Speaker 4>your husband, your colleagues at work, the person that cuts

0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:55.200
<v Speaker 4>you off in traffic. When expectations go unmet, you have unhappiness.

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<v Speaker 4>So if we're aware of that and we reflect on that,

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<v Speaker 4>that means in to some degree, our happiness on a

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<v Speaker 4>daily basis is controllable if we don't slip into unconsciousness.

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<v Speaker 4>And for me, that means, you know, go back a

0:59:08.400 --> 0:59:10.400
<v Speaker 4>couple of years. I got on a plane for the

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<v Speaker 4>first time to go on holiday at twenty one years old.

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<v Speaker 4>That me and my family didn't have the means to

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<v Speaker 4>go on holiday. So I was twenty one years old.

0:59:17.120 --> 0:59:18.800
<v Speaker 4>I was on this plane to Thailand and I get

0:59:18.840 --> 0:59:21.840
<v Speaker 4>in the economy section and I just can't believe. What

0:59:21.880 --> 0:59:23.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm seeing is Tim cann is going to attempt to

0:59:23.840 --> 0:59:26.000
<v Speaker 4>fly across the world. I'm in economy and I'm like,

0:59:26.040 --> 0:59:28.480
<v Speaker 4>oh my god. I'm looking at the safety manual. I'm

0:59:28.560 --> 0:59:32.120
<v Speaker 4>oh my god, this is incredible. I'm blown away. I'm euphoric.

0:59:32.440 --> 0:59:36.320
<v Speaker 4>My expectations are exceeded. Fast forward five years, twenty nineteen,

0:59:36.360 --> 0:59:39.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm flying fifty weeks a year. I'm traveling in business class,

0:59:39.520 --> 0:59:42.480
<v Speaker 4>in first class. I'm rushing on these planes, throwing my

0:59:42.520 --> 0:59:45.040
<v Speaker 4>bag up, pulling my laptop out in first class, just

0:59:45.040 --> 0:59:47.080
<v Speaker 4>trying to get on my laptop before I lose internet connection.

0:59:47.480 --> 0:59:50.040
<v Speaker 4>And then one day I look over and I see

0:59:50.680 --> 0:59:53.880
<v Speaker 4>Jenny with her husband, clearly on an engagement or something.

0:59:54.240 --> 0:59:55.240
<v Speaker 6>They just got engaged.

0:59:57.120 --> 1:00:01.720
<v Speaker 4>She's like sipping the champagne. She's putting on the s Dave, Dave,

1:00:01.760 --> 1:00:05.000
<v Speaker 4>look at this, They've got robes. She is over the

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<v Speaker 4>moon that used to be me an economy?

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<v Speaker 6>Where did that go?

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<v Speaker 4>Where did my happiness go? When it went out the

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<v Speaker 4>door with my expectations. I've got used to my life

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<v Speaker 4>and through that process of what I called earlier on

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<v Speaker 4>that habituation where we just get used to things in

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<v Speaker 4>our lives. Unfortunately, we get used to the emotions and

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<v Speaker 4>the emotions leave too. So if we want to hold

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<v Speaker 4>on to that joy of life and not let it

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<v Speaker 4>go out the door when we become more and more successful,

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<v Speaker 4>like your podcast is going to take over the world.

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<v Speaker 6>And you're going to be there one day, You're.

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<v Speaker 4>Going to hit ten gazillion subscribers and you're going to

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<v Speaker 4>feel zilch because you're going to like, if we're unconscious,

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<v Speaker 4>we expect gratitude and euphoria to show up, whereas the

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<v Speaker 4>truth is about Euphorian gratitude is we have to it

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<v Speaker 4>has to be a practice.

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<v Speaker 6>We have to.

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<v Speaker 4>Like so when I got on a plane, now I

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<v Speaker 4>stop before I walk in the plane, just when you

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<v Speaker 4>get to the little door part of the plane, I stop,

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<v Speaker 4>and I remind myself how absolutely unbelievably mental it is

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<v Speaker 4>that I'm about to go and sit in that really

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<v Speaker 4>push section at the front of the plane. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>Steve Barler's six years ago is stealing pizzas to feed

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<v Speaker 4>himself and working in call center. Isn't it absolutely mental

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<v Speaker 4>that I get to see here? It makes happiness a

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<v Speaker 4>key part of my life by doing that practice, and

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<v Speaker 4>we could all do that every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, perspective truly is the most beautiful thing. It's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that I love the most from doing this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast and speaking to different people. These are the conversations

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<v Speaker 1>people need to hear just to reconnect with reality and

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<v Speaker 1>be present and grateful for what you've got. But Steven,

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<v Speaker 1>this has been one of those moments for us in

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<v Speaker 1>our career. We thought, if we can ever speak with

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<v Speaker 1>you on the podcast, that's going to be one of

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<v Speaker 1>those moments. So we're definitely going to hang up from

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<v Speaker 1>you and celebrate after.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll be cool on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>But we can't thank you enough for your time. We

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<v Speaker 1>know you're a very busy man. Say thanks for joining

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<v Speaker 1>us today.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you so much. You guys are great.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so wanted to be invited on and everyone's told

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<v Speaker 4>me about your show and how special it is so

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<v Speaker 4>wonderful that.

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<v Speaker 6>I could coin and speak.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, of course they have. I don't really do podcasts.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't do that. So a lot of people said

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of nice things about you guys. So everyone,

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<v Speaker 4>so thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>The Diary of CEO The thirty three Laws of Business

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<v Speaker 1>and Life out today everywhere.

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<v Speaker 6>Appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys know we don't finish an episode without our

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<v Speaker 1>suck and our sweet the highlight, the low light.

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<v Speaker 3>Laura Burne, you want to kick it off, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>So my suck for the week.

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<v Speaker 2>Last week it was a hairy, scary, touch and go

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<v Speaker 2>whet there with little Lola Ellis Johnson. I just forgot

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<v Speaker 2>my child's middle name for one second. No one ever

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<v Speaker 2>uses a middle name Lola el.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually don't even know if I knew that when

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<v Speaker 1>you just said that, that was foreign in my brain

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<v Speaker 1>because she's just Melon, Lola Melon Johnson.

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<v Speaker 3>Totally.

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<v Speaker 5>Why was everyone our age they all had one of

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<v Speaker 5>three names, Anne, Louise.

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<v Speaker 3>Or Jane. I'm sorry, no one's had Mayo.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't have brit sits outside of like the norm,

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<v Speaker 2>well and truly outside the box. But my middle name

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<v Speaker 2>is Anne and my sister's middle name is Louise. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>we couldn't be bigger cliches. And this generation, our generation

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<v Speaker 2>of children, every single person has a middle name may

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone says it's a family name.

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<v Speaker 3>It was my name, blah blah blah. I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Every single every single kid in Molly May's daycare is may.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben goes to me, So, just so I understand, does

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<v Speaker 1>our kid have to be called male?

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<v Speaker 3>It's a family name?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, that's how is that interesting?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay? I feel like you might need to explain this

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<v Speaker 5>for people who haven't heard you talk about it before,

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<v Speaker 5>because when I first heard I truly thought it was

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<v Speaker 5>a piss take.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not so if you haven't heard it, my

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<v Speaker 1>middle name is Mayo, like the condiment.

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<v Speaker 3>Why is it a family name? Rumor has it, legend

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<v Speaker 3>has it, and I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Legend has it that one of my relatives was involved

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<v Speaker 1>in the Mayo Clinic, which is the renowned medical clinic,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it was something that went off the back

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<v Speaker 1>of that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I just know that one kid each generation.

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<v Speaker 3>So my mum had it.

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<v Speaker 1>She's one of four, and her mum had it and

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<v Speaker 1>she was one of four. So it's just like one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Fuck, my kid's gonna be Mayo. I

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<v Speaker 3>hope they never ask me why. If my kid says, Mum,

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<v Speaker 3>why do I.

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<v Speaker 1>Have Mayo, I'm gonna say, your grandparents use mayonnaise instead

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<v Speaker 1>of loop.

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<v Speaker 3>Please don't say that. Don't terrible sex education? Really imagine

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<v Speaker 3>that legend going on through the next generation. That's terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, anyway, look back to my suck for the week.

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<v Speaker 2>But my suck for the week is Lola had a

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<v Speaker 2>terrible is The ear infection started when we were in

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<v Speaker 2>Magnetic Island. Were told it was just like a viral thing.

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<v Speaker 2>She didn't need any antibiotics. Turns out the kid needed

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<v Speaker 2>some antibiotics. We just had like four nights, consecutive nights

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<v Speaker 2>of her screaming and being possessed like the devil, like

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<v Speaker 2>levitating up from the bed, and then on the fourth

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<v Speaker 2>night of that last week.

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<v Speaker 3>You did the exorcism.

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<v Speaker 2>No, her ear drum perforated overnight. And I think anyone

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<v Speaker 2>who's got little kid who's had a terrible ear infection,

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<v Speaker 2>it like absolutely peaked with pain for her. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the perforated ear drums like all this gunk just oozes

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<v Speaker 2>out of their ear.

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<v Speaker 3>So I came in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Morning and it was all over her pillow, all down

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<v Speaker 2>her neck, pussy, ear wax, And anyway, after that happens

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<v Speaker 2>and the pressure is kind of relieved, they start to

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<v Speaker 2>feel better really really quickly. But also then their ear

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<v Speaker 2>drum is open, so you've got to be careful with antibiotics,

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<v Speaker 2>and they you got to keep him away from water

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<v Speaker 2>and blah blah blah blah blah. Ear infections are sucky.

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<v Speaker 2>My sweet for the week is that yesterday we had

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<v Speaker 2>some of our really close friends over for a lunch

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<v Speaker 2>at our house. My mom my mother in Law was there.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys came. Keisha was wildly hungover. Keisha were at toblarone.

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<v Speaker 2>It was such a beautiful afternoon. One of our really

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful family friend's Falcon. So Falcon was Matt's minder on

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<v Speaker 2>The Bachelor, and a minder is basically like he was

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<v Speaker 2>Matt's chaperone.

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<v Speaker 1>So they did that exactly that they mind you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so like when you are the Bachelor or you're

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<v Speaker 2>a contestant on the Bachelor, you get given a minder,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's the person who means that you can't have

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<v Speaker 2>your phone, like they can't stop you from getting access to.

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<v Speaker 3>The outside world. They basically babysit you.

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<v Speaker 2>So Falcon was Matt's babysitter for the entire time that

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<v Speaker 2>he was a bachelor. And now he's gone on. He

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<v Speaker 2>works for Hay Mission Zoe Blake. He's their pa. He's

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<v Speaker 2>such a cool and interesting person and he is so

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<v Speaker 2>beautifully generous and he organized this unbelievably incredible gift. So

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<v Speaker 2>he organized his friend who is a chef, to come

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<v Speaker 2>and do homemade pass with Marley.

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<v Speaker 3>She got to create Nyocki. It was all very Italian

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<v Speaker 3>and very like.

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<v Speaker 2>It was beautiful but his name was Chef Johny, and

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<v Speaker 2>he came and he just like brought so much food,

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<v Speaker 2>to the point where every single person that was there,

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<v Speaker 2>like all our families and friends, were sitting there with

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<v Speaker 2>their pants underne.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to undo my belt as a step one,

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<v Speaker 1>and then step two was I had to take my

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<v Speaker 1>jeans down.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, what is your suck? My suck?

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<v Speaker 1>I said it at the start, But nothing's going to

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<v Speaker 1>overtake it. This week is just my eggs or my

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<v Speaker 1>lack thereof that's it. I mean, I've already spoken about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was just a real shock and I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>expecting it, which made it worse. But I guess now

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<v Speaker 1>moving forward, the expectation would be there. I think i'd

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<v Speaker 1>expect less, so anything that I get that's more is

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<v Speaker 1>a bonus. So rough week, and a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>messaged me. I didn't say this at the start of chat.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Messaged me their journeys with egg freezing. And my heart

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<v Speaker 1>goes out to all of you, because not all of

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<v Speaker 1>them most successful. Some people didn't even make it. Some

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<v Speaker 1>people didn't get any some people, you know, lots of

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<v Speaker 1>different problems. So I guess, just know that everyone going

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<v Speaker 1>through it might feel like you're the only person that

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<v Speaker 1>is having.

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<v Speaker 3>These results, but you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>There are so many other women that are experiencing this

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<v Speaker 1>as well. So my thoughts are with everybody going through it.

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<v Speaker 1>My sweet I'm not going, you know, we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to revisit it. But my sweet is pasta, the four

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<v Speaker 1>Courses of Pasta. It was like all my dreams come

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<v Speaker 1>true as someone that would have pasta for breakfast. I

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<v Speaker 1>frock the whole Thing's sweet.

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<v Speaker 3>It was also Falcon Monte Cristo.

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<v Speaker 1>My Sweeden is also Falcon Monte Cristo.

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<v Speaker 3>Tisha my suck for the week.

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<v Speaker 5>Last night, I was having a shower with my boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 5>And there's this thing about like apartments in Bondai are

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<v Speaker 5>disgustingly overpriced. Right, my apartment doesn't even have skirting boards,

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<v Speaker 5>It's got no fly screens. It is such a bare

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<v Speaker 5>bones apartment. But I pay a lot of money for it,

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<v Speaker 5>as we all do. Anyway, one thing about the apartment,

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<v Speaker 5>and I've just gotten to the point where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 5>I can't live like this anymore, is that you have

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<v Speaker 5>specifically five minutes of hot water.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's rough. Whoe to go I cannot my hair

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<v Speaker 3>in one go.

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<v Speaker 5>I've got to stop the hot water halfway through and

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<v Speaker 5>let the conditioner soak in.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I'm hearing is you're trying to get freaky.

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<v Speaker 3>Last night, like I was so hungover. It was not

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<v Speaker 3>a sexy shower.

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<v Speaker 5>It was just that two people needed to shower and

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<v Speaker 5>he was in there for about three minutes before I

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<v Speaker 5>got to the shower, and so I had to like

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<v Speaker 5>shower in the cold, and I was just like, how

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<v Speaker 5>am I thirty years old paying this amount of money

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<v Speaker 5>for an apartment that I cannot.

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<v Speaker 3>Even have a funking shower in. That's really upsetting. Do

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<v Speaker 3>you know what else is upsetting?

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<v Speaker 2>I would have thought that your suck for the week

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<v Speaker 2>was the fact that because all these photos of you

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<v Speaker 2>with your face and a bucket and.

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<v Speaker 3>Your ass out, I would have thought that that was

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<v Speaker 3>your suck.

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<v Speaker 5>I blocked it out to give a bit of context

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<v Speaker 5>that I had a celebration and this is my sweet

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<v Speaker 5>I've had two of the best weekends of my life

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<v Speaker 5>back to back. You guys are big parts of that.

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<v Speaker 5>Because we've hung out on both of those weekends. I

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<v Speaker 5>have gotten to do things to celebrate my thirtieth birthday.

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<v Speaker 5>We're speaking about how I wasn't really a birthday, but

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<v Speaker 5>I just have had such a beautiful reminder of how

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<v Speaker 5>phenomenal the people that I have in my life are.

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<v Speaker 3>And so we went and had lots and lots and

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<v Speaker 3>lots of mugs.

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<v Speaker 2>On Saturday, Kisha celebrated it with bottomless margaritas, and let

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<v Speaker 2>me tell you, it was bottomless by the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the night.

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<v Speaker 3>I have seen the photographic evidence of that bottom.

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<v Speaker 5>Toblerone took a picture of me and I can't remember this,

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<v Speaker 5>but I've got a jumper on and I'm laying over

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<v Speaker 5>my bed and yes, look I did have my head

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<v Speaker 5>in a bucket.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't my best moment.

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<v Speaker 5>And your whole bare bum is showing and it's like

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<v Speaker 5>it's not hot anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>It looks great.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a good bar and the light was hitting it.

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<v Speaker 1>After threat angle it was quite shimmery. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>a shimmery, smooth, tanned butt.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, if you were ever going to have a photo

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<v Speaker 2>of someone vomiting with their face in a bucket, like

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<v Speaker 2>it was a beautiful bomb.

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<v Speaker 3>By the end of it. She goes, Hey falcom Onte Cristo,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to see mask.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that was a particularly low PoID and I had

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<v Speaker 5>the seediest hangover yesterday, but all worth it. I just had.

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<v Speaker 5>I've had two the best weekends of my life. It's

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<v Speaker 5>like you said, it's the people you have around you,

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<v Speaker 5>people like Falcon that would just make you feel good

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<v Speaker 5>after tell your presents.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't even know him that well, and Falcon's a

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<v Speaker 1>person you say over Laura and I who he's been

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<v Speaker 1>every day with.

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<v Speaker 2>Falcon is also caciou sweet. Anyway, guys, that is it

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<v Speaker 2>from us today. We hope that you love the episode.

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<v Speaker 2>We hope that you learned something, and like we said,

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<v Speaker 2>please go and do the one percent chat with your

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<v Speaker 2>family or with your friends or with yourself and figure

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<v Speaker 2>out what is that one thing that you can change

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<v Speaker 2>that will incrementally make your life better.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you have loved the episode, share it with

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<v Speaker 3>a friend.

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<v Speaker 2>into your feed the moment that it is released.

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<v Speaker 5>And let Stephen Bartlett know that you really enjoyed him

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<v Speaker 5>being on My fun cut and then he might come

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<v Speaker 1>Tag him he's tag and tag him, share this episode, tag, tag, tag, tag,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, please. The thing that really helps us and

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<v Speaker 1>the thing we really if you do one thing this

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<v Speaker 1>week is to share the episode, put on your story,

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<v Speaker 1>tell a friend, word of mouth, anything, but we really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you share in the love. So don't forget Tell

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<v Speaker 1>your mom, tell your dad, tell your dog, tell your friends,

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<v Speaker 1>and share that love.

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<v Speaker 3>Because we are love. I share that love really really

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<v Speaker 3>like brought it home today. I get thrown so easy,

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<v Speaker 3>I said one where different. Laura's eyes were like no.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, what are you doing? Why and share

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<v Speaker 3>that love. I'm just trying something new. Bye, my babe,