WEBVTT - New Word Alert: Emotivism  🤗

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>Flex and Firms. This is the Flex and Frooms catch

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<v Speaker 2>Up podcast. I We've spoken about this previously. FLEXI. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like we do see that everything has stopped feeling

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<v Speaker 2>real at some point recently. Absolutely, and okay for me

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<v Speaker 2>it was and I'm grew missed to even bring it up,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is pertinent to this. When mister Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>did become the president, that is when things really started

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<v Speaker 2>to enter a clown like territory. But in the words

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<v Speaker 2>of Pink, this used to be a fun house, but

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<v Speaker 2>now it's full of evil clowns.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa she ate.

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<v Speaker 3>It's interesting what you can get away with saying in

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<v Speaker 3>music because the lyrics kind of feel like a haze

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<v Speaker 3>if the beat is good.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's full of evil clowns.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. So anyway, and no one took her out for

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<v Speaker 1>that said, she wasn't talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, And so yeah, when that all started happening, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>mister c mister Covid was occurring. It was all kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like a weird fever dream. And in the time since,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we have been speaking about the idea of

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<v Speaker 2>America no longer being the superpower. That's probably been going

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<v Speaker 2>on for the past twenty years. I'd say, like, since

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<v Speaker 2>the new millennium is your idea of history the same

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<v Speaker 2>as that after I say it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was sooner than that, I mean more recent than that. Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, I feel like the America is the center of

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<v Speaker 3>the world, and the peak of our existence would have

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<v Speaker 3>been happening since like would have stopped happening maybe five

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<v Speaker 3>years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, yeah, okay, I just think.

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<v Speaker 1>Of what the Naughties were like, and we were like

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's so cool. Pops us are so cool. In and

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<v Speaker 1>Out is so cool. So four is so cool?

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<v Speaker 2>Su Cream Mate, chrispy Kreme, you know, I mean, Christy

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<v Speaker 2>Creame is still here. But I digress. I've wondered as

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<v Speaker 2>well about this idea of malaise and this kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like feeling of everyone's fighting all the time and like

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<v Speaker 2>everything's bad and the news is bad, and like everyone's

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<v Speaker 2>popping off on each other on social media and the

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<v Speaker 2>news is bad.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why neuroscientists don't watch it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that little bit. I think about that recently

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm thinking I'm doing a good thing every morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Go on to citny wan in Heroldan Center, my insta.

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<v Speaker 2>My brain's still running, but now just strength. There's no

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<v Speaker 2>pretty pictures say. This's all to say, you guys. This

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<v Speaker 2>article in the Atlantic surmises, or rather suggests that the

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<v Speaker 2>reason there's so much hatred and sadness in America is

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<v Speaker 2>it not because of technology, sociology, demography, or economy.

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<v Speaker 1>People care people today.

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<v Speaker 2>It is because of something so simple. Americans. I no

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<v Speaker 2>longer talk kindness.

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<v Speaker 1>A hah.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't expecting that.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are Australians talk kindness?

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<v Speaker 2>I think of us as a connected culture just with

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<v Speaker 2>our guns. Do you not see that? Slightly? I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like we have taken so much of Americas.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, That's what I'm saying. It's like, how where where

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<v Speaker 1>are we being?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I can see that we're talk kindness in religion.

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<v Speaker 1>There might be a little link there.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they get into it, right, Okay. The number one

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<v Speaker 2>the technology story, which is that social media is driving

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<v Speaker 2>us all crazy. The sociology story is that we stop

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<v Speaker 2>participating in community organizations and are more isolated. The demographic story, America,

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<v Speaker 2>long a white dominated nation, is becoming a much more

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<v Speaker 2>diverse country, a change that has millions of white Americans

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<v Speaker 2>in a panic. The economy story, high levels of economic

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<v Speaker 2>inequality and insecurity have left people afraid, alienated, and pessimistic.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is suggesting that these aren't the reasons why

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<v Speaker 3>Americans are increasingly unkind.

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<v Speaker 2>Allegedly, No, allegedly, they're things that we are told are

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<v Speaker 2>And he thinks that this. Heace thinks that the thing

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<v Speaker 2>is much more simple, and that is that they've become

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<v Speaker 2>sad and rude because we inhabit a society in which

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<v Speaker 2>people are no longer trained in how to treat others

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<v Speaker 2>with kindness and consider Our society has become one in

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<v Speaker 2>which people feel licensed to give their selfishness free reign.

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<v Speaker 2>The story I'm going to tell is about morals in

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<v Speaker 2>a healthy society. A web of institutions, family schools, religious groups,

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<v Speaker 2>community organizations, and workplaces help people form interkinder and response

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<v Speaker 2>more responsible citizens. The sort of people who shot for

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<v Speaker 2>one another, and now we are currently terrible at moral formation.

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<v Speaker 1>I think is that the freelancer economy?

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<v Speaker 2>But like, that's really.

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<v Speaker 1>Confused you people.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what he meant though, right, And I wondered, like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is one of them things where you say people

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<v Speaker 2>killing people, dye and type of thing, right, Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>very easy to just say this what's the solution, king,

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<v Speaker 2>mm and kind of what he breaks down as this

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<v Speaker 2>concept of morals two breaks. Oh sure, sure, let's get

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<v Speaker 2>into this further because I think that he has a

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<v Speaker 2>point here that I haven't heard before. And I will

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<v Speaker 2>just reiterate the title of this piece was why are

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<v Speaker 2>Americans Mean? So I think his terminology of mean is

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<v Speaker 2>quite interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we have I said, unkind, and that's not the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, nasty, and kind, They're all different. And what you

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<v Speaker 2>said earlier, flex is this is kind of like isn't

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of like what religion?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the consequence of not having a religious society or

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<v Speaker 3>some kind of moral institution that's really enforcing the behavior,

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<v Speaker 3>not just teaching it to you, but enforcing it with

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<v Speaker 3>a consequence.

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<v Speaker 2>With a consequence exactly. So moral formation, which sounds very stuffy,

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<v Speaker 2>is what he is alluding to, and he breaks this up.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to break down the concept, and I'll read

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<v Speaker 2>it to you. Moral formation, as I we use this

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<v Speaker 2>stuffy sounding term here comprises of three things. First, helping

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<v Speaker 2>people learn to restrain the selfishness. This is difficult in

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<v Speaker 2>this social media landscape. I will say, how do we

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<v Speaker 2>keep our evolutionary conferred egotism under control. That's a question

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<v Speaker 2>that we need to answer. Second, teaching basic social and

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<v Speaker 2>ethical skills. How do you welcome a neighbor into your community,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you disagree with someone constructively? And Third, helping

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<v Speaker 2>people find a purpose in life Morally, form formative institutions

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<v Speaker 2>hold up a set of ideals. They provide practical pathways

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<v Speaker 2>towards a meaningful existence. Here's how you can dedicate your

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<v Speaker 2>life to serving the poor, or protecting the nation, or

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<v Speaker 2>loving your neighbor. So beyond the classroom, which is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of what he's suggesting, there's other groups like the YMCA,

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday School, the Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, the Settlement House

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<v Speaker 2>movement which brought rich and poor people together and served

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<v Speaker 2>the marginalized. Yeah yeah, yeah, worker protections. This just I

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<v Speaker 2>think you should go for yourself and read this article because.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely we can make a lot of parallels between American

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<v Speaker 3>culture and Australian culture. I can understand why they didn't

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<v Speaker 3>title the article why is the world getting meaner? Because

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<v Speaker 3>the world is increasingly segregated, and how we deal with

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<v Speaker 3>the nature of just being alive. But this idea of

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<v Speaker 3>emotivism and how what feels good, is right in a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of instances is the correct way to be. But

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<v Speaker 3>having to scale in really micro and then out really

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<v Speaker 3>macro and oscillate between those two thoughts constantly. As the

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<v Speaker 3>article says, it's a lot for one person to do,

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<v Speaker 3>which is why people seek out these institutions to create

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<v Speaker 3>this common way of behaving so I don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>default to critically unpacking every single thing about being alive.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone else do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Give us a rule book, for damn sakes.

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<v Speaker 1>They did that. They've been doing that for a little while.

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