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Speaker 1: Joining us in the studio right now is Luke Gosling,

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Speaker 1: the member for Solomon. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Luke, Good morning Katie and Luke.

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Speaker 1: Obviously Remembrance Day. We did just speak to Ray Palmer,

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Speaker 1: father of scott It is such an important day, particularly

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Speaker 1: for us here in the Northern Territory with a huge

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Speaker 1: defense presence.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I heard Ray's interview and he's done

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Speaker 2: so much for veterans himself and he continues to do

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Speaker 2: that to every day, like he's talking to veterans all

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Speaker 2: the time and keeps him close to Scotty. But it

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Speaker 2: also yeah, he just wants to keep giving back. And

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Speaker 2: it is a day where we acknowledge all those particularly

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Speaker 2: those that have paid the aldimate sacrifice like Scottie Palmer

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Speaker 2: from I grew up in Katherine and played rugby right

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Speaker 2: here in Darwen, served here in Darwin, out at Robson

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Speaker 2: Barracks and went over to Afghanistan with the commandos. But

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Speaker 2: throughout our history, World War One, world War II, there's

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Speaker 2: just so many any Australians that have paid that ultimate

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Speaker 2: sacrifice and some as we know that have come home changed.

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Speaker 2: So we remember all of those who have served and

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Speaker 2: the RSL always puts on a great service and out

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Speaker 2: in Parmesan as well. Today.

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Speaker 1: Look, you have served. For those out there listening this

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Speaker 1: morning who don't have an idea of your background, tell

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Speaker 1: us a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: On fourth generation Australian serviceman and two of my brothers,

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Speaker 2: one still serving in the Army and one served in

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Speaker 2: the Navy as a territory fire fighter these days. But

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Speaker 2: our dad was conscripted and went over to Vietnam and

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Speaker 2: did his duty over there and lost some mates. His

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Speaker 2: dad fought in World War Two and about eighty years

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Speaker 2: ago was fighting in Greece and my great grandfather was

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Speaker 2: gassed on the Western Front. So my journey hasn't been

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Speaker 2: anywhere near as hardcore as those that have gone before me.

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Speaker 2: But I was proud to serve over an East Team

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Speaker 2: Or and made a difference there, I think, and just

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Speaker 2: as we reflect on the twenty years that have gone

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Speaker 2: past since East Team Or, and particularly in Afghanistan, I

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Speaker 2: just hope that all veterans today are just reflecting on

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Speaker 2: those that have lost, but also reflecting and proud of

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Speaker 2: their service for our nation.

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Speaker 1: What does a day like today mean to you?

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Speaker 2: It means that the country just stops and remembers that

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Speaker 2: there are so many Australians that didn't get to have

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Speaker 2: a full life, that didn't get to have a family,

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Speaker 2: or didn't get to come back to their family, and

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Speaker 2: it's really important that we do remember that because when

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Speaker 2: they say that it's the ultimate sacrifice, it's because there's

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Speaker 2: no greater sacrifice, you know. And to be over in

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Speaker 2: a foreign land or defending Darwin as so many did

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Speaker 2: right here and then never to see your loved ones again,

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Speaker 2: that is such a massive thing and that's why we

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Speaker 2: remember them on a day like this. So I just

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Speaker 2: remember stage just makes me so proud, And it's like

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Speaker 2: Anzac Day an opportunity for us to remember those that

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Speaker 2: we owe so much to.

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Speaker 1: What will you be doing this morning? I know that

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Speaker 1: you've ducked in here obviously on your way to those commemorations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So kicking off at ten thirty of the Cenotaph,

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Speaker 2: the RSL puts on a really special service down there.

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Speaker 2: It's nice and warm, nice for you. I encourage people

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Speaker 2: if they can get down there to pop down. It's

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Speaker 2: a shorter service than the Anzac Day one and out

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Speaker 2: of Parmesan the same there will be a service there

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Speaker 2: at the war memorial kicking off at ten thirty, which

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Speaker 2: is not too far from now. So yeah, if you can,

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Speaker 2: yeah people there. The serving ADF members that will be

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Speaker 2: there as well as the veterans and their families will

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Speaker 2: really appreciate seeing some people to come along and take

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Speaker 2: that one minute silence to think of how lucky we

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Speaker 2: are to be Australians and how much we owe.

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Speaker 1: Well. We will certainly be doing that here at the

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Speaker 1: station and right around the Northern Territory, no doubt I understand.

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Speaker 2: As well.

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Speaker 1: There's also something a little bit special I think happening

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Speaker 1: this year. I'm unsure if it's happened in previous years,

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Speaker 1: but the lights of remembrance as well are happening around

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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory. From what I can see in Alice Springs,

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Speaker 1: I think Tenant Creek, Catherine and there'll also be a

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Speaker 1: traveling semi trailer cinema with projection displays across Darwin and

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Speaker 1: Palmerston a few different locations. That's from the nights to

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Speaker 1: the eleventh seven PM I think tonight, So that'll be

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Speaker 1: a nice one.

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Speaker 2: It's an incredible initiative and it looks amazing so the

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Speaker 2: light projections up onto buildings and yeah, it's another way

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Speaker 2: to make people or give people the opportunity to be

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Speaker 2: part of it. Just to look at the wonderful light

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Speaker 2: shows and yeah, just stop and remember. And it doesn't

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Speaker 2: matter if you can't get to one of the services,

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Speaker 2: like the services have been brought to the people in

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Speaker 2: a way. But just yeah, people in their own way

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Speaker 2: will remember those that have gone before us.

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Speaker 1: That's such an important point I reckon that you've just made.

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Speaker 1: And it's something that Ray Palmer actually said to me

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Speaker 1: on the phone the other night when I had a

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Speaker 1: chat to him, and he said, Katie, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: if you're not out of service, just stop and make

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Speaker 1: sure that you do remember and reflect at eleven o'clock

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Speaker 1: and throughout the day. And I think it's a really

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Speaker 1: really important thing for everybody to do today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and just a final plug, Katie, there's a bunch

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Speaker 2: of veteran bands that have made a music album and

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Speaker 2: they've launched it today and it's called exactly what you

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Speaker 2: just said. It's rock for Reflection and remembrance and it's

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Speaker 2: veteran bands and many of their listeners will know some

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Speaker 2: of the people like Normal Row who's a Vietnam veteran.

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Speaker 2: And Anthony Field the Blue Wiggle. Oh yeah, yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: actually a veteran as well, so he's got a song

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Speaker 2: in there. So that album's released today and up I'll

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Speaker 2: put it on my Facebook ladder today where people can

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Speaker 2: and download it and have a listen.

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Speaker 1: Very cool. That is a great thing to do. Although Gosling,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for your time this morning. I really

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Speaker 1: appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Katie,