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Speaker 1: Job mission with James and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: Our next guess is the underwater icon whose life work

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Speaker 2: has become the basis of much of what we know

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Speaker 2: about sharks today. She's worked on plenty of shark films

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Speaker 2: and documentaries, but now there's a documentary about her. Valerie Taylor, Hello.

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Speaker 1: Oh, a documentary about me?

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Speaker 3: What about that?

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Speaker 2: What about that?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: It was a bit of a surprise. I didn't think

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Speaker 1: it was worthy of a documentary, but there you go.

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Speaker 2: Oh, look it's extraordinary. And I wasn't aware of all

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Speaker 2: of that. I grew up watching all of the stuff

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Speaker 2: you did, but I didn't know about all the stuff

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Speaker 2: you've done on those iconic films like Jaws. What work

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Speaker 2: were you doing on Jaws?

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Speaker 1: I've shark footage that was all shot before they went

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Speaker 1: into production. Actually they only went into production because Ron

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Speaker 1: and I were sent the Galley proofs by Richard Zannik

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Speaker 1: and David Brown and we read them and they had

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Speaker 1: asked us if we thought it would make a good movie,

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Speaker 1: and of course we thought because it was work for us,

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Speaker 1: so we went into production. Steven Spielberg wanted all a

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Speaker 1: life shark footage before they started doing the above order

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Speaker 1: and the using the mechanical shark, and that was our job.

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Speaker 1: And then when we'd finished here and we managed to

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Speaker 1: shoot what they wanted, they took us to Martha's venue.

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Speaker 1: It was a little present. It was very nice.

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Speaker 3: That's another that's a great spot there. And is it

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Speaker 3: true that some of those shots that you had the

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Speaker 3: character where Matt Hooper, the oceanographer played by Richard Dreyfus,

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Speaker 3: you used a jockey in a miniature cage and just

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Speaker 3: had a normal size shark swim up to it to

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Speaker 3: give the appearance that it was bigger than it actually was.

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Speaker 1: We had all everything we had was half sized, the cage,

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Speaker 1: the man with his little Chinese scuba tank, the small

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Speaker 1: boat half size, and it was a very clever idea. However,

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Speaker 1: the thing where they didn't do was seen as a

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Speaker 1: little half sized man who'd been a diver, and as

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Speaker 1: soon as he put on the equipment, even before he

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Speaker 1: got in the water, he started to drown. And then

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Speaker 1: when he saw the shark, he became very faint hearted,

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Speaker 1: and although he was a struck man, supposedly there was

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Speaker 1: no getting him in the half sized cage. We tried

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Speaker 1: physical force, we tried everything, We would have given up,

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Speaker 1: but they had also said the product manager, and the

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Speaker 1: production manager said he signed the agreement. He doesn't.

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Speaker 3: They were the days, day were the day and.

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Speaker 1: Well he finally became allergic to water sharks son and

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Speaker 1: couldn't even leave the cabin of the boat and the

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Speaker 1: only shut well up My big scene. I hand fram

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Speaker 1: out of the cave and touched a shark. Ron had

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Speaker 1: to shoot over my shoulder and in a full sized

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Speaker 1: cave and never show aid against anything. But we got

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Speaker 1: the shots they wanted. Don't You got the show all

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Speaker 1: that they didn't ask for, all that they liked them.

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Speaker 2: And I know that recently you were with Chris Hemsworth

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Speaker 2: on his project called Shark Beach. Was he more compliant

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Speaker 2: than that small jockey?

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Speaker 1: Oh? He was dead ten. He'd learned to dive specially

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Speaker 1: and he really wanted to see sharks, and he did.

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Speaker 1: We were going to fish Rock, which I know very well.

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Speaker 1: We made a documentary there once course the shock cave

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Speaker 1: and has sharks, so they're not harmful, they're big and

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Speaker 1: they look dangerous. And he had a lovely time. He's

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Speaker 1: a nice man.

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Speaker 3: He's a lovely man. And do you still get to

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Speaker 3: dive these days.

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Speaker 1: Sno's too cold winter. I'm not allowed to leave the house.

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Speaker 1: I mean I can. I can go for walk ten

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Speaker 1: up to ten killing me. So it's a bit different nowadays.

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Speaker 1: I'm stuck. My last dive was this Chris.

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Speaker 3: Right, so your last day was Chris hanslock that's quite

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Speaker 3: the base. But you know, if anything, you can catch

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Speaker 3: playing with Sharks on Disney Plus from tomorrow, so if

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Speaker 3: you're in lockdown, you can watch Valerie Taylor in this Valerie,

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Speaker 3: it's so nice to speak to you.

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Speaker 1: I'd love you to speak to you. I'm sorry we

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Speaker 1: had all these problems.

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Speaker 3: That's okay, we sort of.

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Speaker 1: I'm very good underwater, but above order, looking at a computer,

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Speaker 1: I'm hopeless.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Valerie, you take care take it to us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Jonesy and Amanda's Damnation