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Speaker 2: Run, like a backdoor entry to the show.

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Speaker 1: Well you're the one thinking about that, Tom and not us.

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Speaker 3: It's a backdoor entry into like it's like this is

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Speaker 3: a different way to get an idea of the most people.

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Speaker 1: The back door entry just means you go around the

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Speaker 2: Now anyway, go on.

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Speaker 1: So I so you know how Sam's obviously Sam's first

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Speaker 3: Like when she said in mother's group, my baby's been

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Speaker 3: Do you mean shitting for days? And that's like slang

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Speaker 3: it's happened. Well, I think this is what is smart casual?

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Speaker 1: Smart, smart jean?

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Speaker 2: What is smart casuals?

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Speaker 2: But hang on there, smart and smart casual smart.

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Speaker 3: That's what Mim says to me all the time, because

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Speaker 5: That's a smart casual wedding that you've gone to because

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Speaker 3: I go to a cocktail wedding with Chino's hiking boots.

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Speaker 3: Well wills explain that they're not hiking birds, but they're

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Speaker 3: boots Chino shirt tucked in, Just buy a suit tucked.

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Speaker 3: I put a jacket on just by No, I've got

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Speaker 1: I would say that that's pretty smart. I'd say that's

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Speaker 2: I think it's closer to smart than casual.

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Speaker 2: Around it dogs. Yeah, some of those blogs.

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Speaker 5: Wear a chino and a jacket and some wear a suit,

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Speaker 5: they're dressed smartly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you put it like that, like the one

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Speaker 1: didn't do a November credit.

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Speaker 3: Hilarious, that happens sometimes that happened sometimes.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have a November credit in front of me.

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Speaker 1: Where what sort of November credit is it? For doting GUIDs?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean I've got it? Will I? I did?

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Speaker 1: I said it in the chat.

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Speaker 4: No, I think he said that the line for the podcast.

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Speaker 1: You pushed the podcast answer the gold chat.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, This is really behind the scenes stuff. But we're

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Speaker 3: going to have to go live every Hey, let's take

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Speaker 3: that chat to the radio show. Though that's a cop chat.

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Speaker 3: We need to refigure, we need to figure out dress codes.

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Speaker 3: That's good, well, that was good.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even get to what what Sim's idea was

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Speaker 1: for BT yestermorrow? No, no, you are save it?

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Speaker 1: No, No, it's fine, that's fine.

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Speaker 3: hook like that. But I need to know what it is,

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Speaker 3: okay quickly.

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Speaker 1: No, I'll tell Yeah, I'll tell you another time. I'll

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