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Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the Daily os. It's Monday,

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Speaker 2: the twenty first of November. I'm Sam, I'm Zara. Delivero

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Speaker 2: has come to an end in Australia. Champagne is running

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Speaker 2: out of Champagne and young people are going into debt

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Speaker 2: from spending too much on dating. There's a thread that

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Speaker 2: joins all of these stories together, I promise, and later

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Speaker 2: in the deep dive Maddie and Sophie from your own

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Speaker 2: Good Company will join me to unravel them. But first, Sarah,

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Speaker 2: what's making headlines this morning?

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Speaker 3: Twitter's future is uncertain after new owner and now CEO

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Speaker 3: Elon Musk locked staff out of offices temporarily last week,

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Speaker 3: and that was, of course, amid mass resignations. A message

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Speaker 3: sign up for quote long hours at high intensity or

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Speaker 2: The Medibank hackers have released a new batch of stolen

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Speaker 2: joined this morning by Maddie and Sophie from your in

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Speaker 2: the Good Company. It's their role to explain some of

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Speaker 2: And there is no more hard hitting finance story than

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Speaker 2: the fact that we now have one less food delivery option.

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Speaker 2: Maddie tell me about delivery in the last seven days.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So Delivery has just announced that it is shutting

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Speaker 4: in twenty fifteen. Announce the news via email to customers,

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Speaker 4: saying that it was a difficult decision but the company

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Speaker 4: faced challenging economic decisions. The statement read that in Australia,

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Speaker 4: we have concluded that achieving a sustainable position of leadership

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Speaker 2: that statement says is that basically saying we couldn't win,

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Speaker 4: That's exactly right. There's no doubt that the market is

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Speaker 4: The decision is set to impact around fifteen thousand people

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Speaker 2: And Maddie, does this kind of announcement come out of

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Speaker 4: Look, there's no doubt that internally the delivery team would

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Speaker 4: I have my eye on Bumble, the online dating app

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Speaker 2: Or spending it on champagne. Sophie, what are you kind

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Speaker 2: We also saw some redundancies this week in big tech.

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Speaker 2: bottom of economics is this human beings. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: joining us on the Daily Eyes. If you enjoyed this podcast,

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