Speaker 1: Hello, it's me the gorgeous, intelligent and talented artsimone. I'm
Speaker 1: in a quest to find people that look very normal
Speaker 1: and seem like the average person, except they're not. They're
Speaker 1: concealing something that makes them stand out from the crowd.
Speaker 1: Each episode, I'll meet with a regular seeming person and
Speaker 1: try to uncover what weird profession, creepy hobby, or dirty
Speaker 1: little secret they're concealing. The catch is I don't know
Speaker 1: who the guest is or what they're concealing. I'll get
Speaker 1: to know them, ask them three questions, and then we
Speaker 1: will find out together. Welcome to Concealed with Arts swermone. Oh,
Speaker 1: I think our guest is here roll the type.
Speaker 2: Hello. I'm Jilly. I live in Melbourne and I work
Speaker 2: as a mental health crisis supporter. I mainly work with
Speaker 2: university student So before I did that, i was living
Speaker 2: and working in Spain as a chef. And I'm also
Speaker 2: a musician. I had a blues band and I love
Speaker 2: reading and I draw as well. Drawing is one of
Speaker 2: my main passions.
Speaker 1: Hello, Jillie, love me to meet you. Welcome to the studio.
Speaker 1: You've come in looking absolutely beautiful. That you're as suave
Speaker 1: black on black on black is what you're wearing today,
Speaker 1: which is basically the uniform of people from Melbourne. So
Speaker 1: you were assimilating with us wonderfully. Yes, you're here is wonderful.
Speaker 1: You got some lovely purple eyes shadow on? What color
Speaker 1: your nails?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Purple?
Speaker 3: Good? Is purple your favorite color? Can you tell? I
Speaker 3: cracked it practic.
Speaker 1: We don't need to ask any questions. She's grimis, she's
Speaker 1: premis from McDonald's. I've worked it out in disguise. All right,
Speaker 1: So let's go through some things. You work with university students,
Speaker 1: my health support. Do you work with like a particular
Speaker 1: uni or can I like call it a hotline and go.
Speaker 3: Hey, Julie, just want to chat what's going on?
Speaker 1: And you say, I'm busy, all right, I'm out at
Speaker 1: a restaurant because I'm in Melbourne.
Speaker 3: Stop calling me exactly. Sometimes maybe I wish I could
Speaker 3: do that. I know right now.
Speaker 2: We actually, we actually are a small team and we
Speaker 2: cover about twenty three universities all over Australia.
Speaker 3: Wow, now, have you been to university? No? I love it,
Speaker 3: though it'd be like I have no, I love it.
Speaker 2: Say no, I have been to university university's life there
Speaker 2: you go.
Speaker 1: No, but think if I had a bunch of university
Speaker 1: students calling me, I wouldn't know what they are they're
Speaker 1: talking about.
Speaker 3: They'd be like, oh my, I don't even know what
Speaker 3: a lingo is. Okay.
Speaker 1: An ex chef, yes, Now when you say exit, sounds
Speaker 1: like you have been like removed from the chef like knighthood.
Speaker 1: They've said no more, jilly. You know, you served one
Speaker 1: meal that was bad, and they say, but tell me
Speaker 1: about being chef.
Speaker 3: Or an X chift? Sorry X chift? What was What
Speaker 3: was your posty resistance?
Speaker 2: Something? Probably very simple, like I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm really good at cereal. That's pretty good. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: You know there's a technique in the pouring.
Speaker 1: Well, it's aorts of the ratio because you wanted to
Speaker 1: stay crunchy long enough.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Oh you're good. Yeah, it's very and the milk temperature.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 1: Also multi talent a singer, yeah, oh my goodness.
Speaker 3: And you have a blues ban and blue is my
Speaker 3: favorite color. So I reckon.
Speaker 1: All right, So I've got a bit of history. Okay,
Speaker 1: Now I've got three questions for you. Question number one,
Speaker 1: what is your favorite thing?
Speaker 3: To draw.
Speaker 4: Ooh, my favorite thing to draw. I do have a
Speaker 4: fascination with hands.
Speaker 3: Hands.
Speaker 1: I think it's like deep but okay, hands, you love
Speaker 1: to draw hands?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did have a little bit of thing about hands.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, all right.
Speaker 1: Question number two, what is an essential part of your
Speaker 1: daily routine?
Speaker 2: Essential part of my daily routine would be to go
Speaker 2: walking in nature.
Speaker 1: When you say walking in nature, do you mean you
Speaker 1: have to go out into like the bush or you
Speaker 1: just mean like going outside, going for a walk.
Speaker 2: She's going outside going okay, yeah, but I mean I
Speaker 2: do try and head towards some greenery somewhere, you know,
Speaker 2: like just so I can immerse myself.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: And question number three, question what are you currently reading?
Speaker 2: Okay, so, I'm currently reading a book called Rewild. It's
Speaker 2: about people's experiences and adventures and how it influences their life.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, book about adventures Charlie Brown, something like that. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's summarize what I've got going, because I'll admit sometimes
Speaker 1: I've got a very big incline.
Speaker 3: Today I am so lost.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, ex chef, does it like to stay
Speaker 1: in the same place? Can sing? Loves hands? Likes to
Speaker 1: leave the house and likes adventure books. Okay, now, the
Speaker 1: only thing that I can put together is the regular job,
Speaker 1: and that's all I can guess. So I'm going to
Speaker 1: be asking Julie, are you a travel agent?
Speaker 3: That's like together? No?
Speaker 2: No, I'm a psychic parmist. I read people's hands. I
Speaker 2: also read the tarot cards. I'm a tarost and I've
Speaker 2: been doing it professionally for over thirty years.
Speaker 3: You're a psychic, yes, Sally. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I usually say people, I'm really telepathetic. I can get things,
Speaker 1: but I got nothing. You should have put some of
Speaker 1: those ideas in my head out right, like hands.
Speaker 3: I get her.
Speaker 1: Oh, you should have just said palms, damn it, damn it.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: So it turns out that Jillie is not in fact
Speaker 1: a travel agent. She is a psychic palmist. Yes, a palmist?
Speaker 1: How does that even work? Is someone talking to her
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 3: Are there more people in the room? I want to know? Also,
Speaker 3: how much hand sanitized does she go through?
Speaker 1: All Right, we're here with Jili, and I found out
Speaker 1: that you were not, in fact a traveler.
Speaker 3: No, my love, I'm not a traveler. You're a what's
Speaker 3: the correct terminology.
Speaker 2: You are a well, I would say I was a
Speaker 2: psychic parmist.
Speaker 3: A parmist. I've never heard that before.
Speaker 1: A parmis. It makes me think of a parmesana chef.
Speaker 1: It's making sense. Now, You're like, I'm not cooking chicken today,
Speaker 1: I'm cooking palms parmasana. Okay, so a psychic parmas I
Speaker 1: have never met a psychic parmis before.
Speaker 3: What does that mean?
Speaker 1: How did you get started into the world of psychic
Speaker 1: psychic parmastro.
Speaker 2: I mean, I suppose in some ways I'm quite lucky
Speaker 2: because I was given it as a gift, if you like.
Speaker 2: It was brought down for my family. I didn't really
Speaker 2: recognize it and really want to do and while I
Speaker 2: was in my late twenties. But yeah, it's a natural thing.
Speaker 2: But also I developed it. I learned skills. I went
Speaker 2: to Psychic College in London for five years.
Speaker 3: What, yes, psychic college.
Speaker 2: Yes, the College of Psychic Oh, school.
Speaker 3: For psyche there's a school for us.
Speaker 2: Love.
Speaker 3: There's quite a few colleges like that. Actually really yeah, yeah?
Speaker 3: What was psychic school?
Speaker 2: Like? You know, Oh my god, that was amazing. You
Speaker 2: just meet the most incredible people, and it expands your horizons,
Speaker 2: you know, and you just yeah, you just immerse in
Speaker 2: this other world, alternative world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fantastic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, developing skills.
Speaker 1: It's no different to someone teaching you how to use
Speaker 1: your voice to sing exactly.
Speaker 3: It's just psych.
Speaker 2: Yeah, can you get more confidence? It's about it builds
Speaker 2: your confidence. So you know, the more you do, the
Speaker 2: more you're learning. And you know, you sort of testing
Speaker 2: your skills as well.
Speaker 1: Is it test a really long thing? Like you read
Speaker 1: someone and then you have to wait like six months ago.
Speaker 2: Will No, you do exercises, you know, like development exercises,
Speaker 2: or you know, you'd we'd do things like you'd sit
Speaker 2: in the chair and then you'd swap chairs and you'd
Speaker 2: sit in the chair that other person was in, but
Speaker 2: you'd read their vibration like crazy things like that, you know.
Speaker 2: Or you'd hold a flower and then you'd give that
Speaker 2: flower to the next person and then they'd read it.
Speaker 2: Or you do certain things like you'd give someone a
Speaker 2: piece of jewelry of yours and then you'd do you'd
Speaker 2: read their jewelry and stuff like that, so you know,
Speaker 2: and you do it in the moment so you could
Speaker 2: tell you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, it was a gift for you. That opens
Speaker 1: up my brain going, well, is it something you can
Speaker 1: learn to do? Does everyone have something that they can
Speaker 1: learn to tap into or.
Speaker 2: I mean it's an interesting one in terms of how
Speaker 2: we are, how we're brought into this world, and we're
Speaker 2: brought into the world and we're taught how to be practical,
Speaker 2: you know, I call it the right handed We taught
Speaker 2: the practical elements, but actually we're all very intuitive. That's
Speaker 2: that's part of our nature. We're just naturally intuitive, but
Speaker 2: we're not taught how to do that. So that's why
Speaker 2: you got a psychic coverage.
Speaker 3: Yes I did.
Speaker 2: I went to psychic University and yes, over the years,
Speaker 2: I have my thirty ye old plus years of doing this.
Speaker 2: You know, I've just learned how to use that other
Speaker 2: little quiet skill that you know, we're not taught.
Speaker 1: So what made you discover that you had this? Like,
Speaker 1: did you did your mom sit you down.
Speaker 3: And go you will be a psychic? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How did it work for you to then go on
Speaker 1: the road to psychic school? What's like, what's the steps
Speaker 1: in between?
Speaker 2: So when I was growing up, I grew up between
Speaker 2: Jamaica and the UK.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: So when I was growing up and did part of
Speaker 2: my growing up in Jamaica, my grandmother would tell me
Speaker 2: things and show me things, and she was actually called
Speaker 2: an obia woman. So an obia woman in Jamaica is
Speaker 2: someone who does like natural herbalism, but also they've got
Speaker 2: a little whichy vibe to.
Speaker 3: Them as well.
Speaker 2: And I grew up with that. She would pick me
Speaker 2: up when I was little, literally, I mean carry me,
Speaker 2: and she'd pick up her machete, you know this big
Speaker 2: big knives, right, and she'd pick me up, throw me
Speaker 2: on her hip, pick up her machelle.
Speaker 3: And she was beautiful.
Speaker 2: She was what we call my latter She was black.
Speaker 2: She had black, dark black black skin, and she had
Speaker 2: blue eyes, so she really stunning. Yeah, she was beautiful.
Speaker 2: She has piercing blue eyes and black black skin. So
Speaker 2: when she looked at you, it was really scary. She
Speaker 2: would yeah, like seriously, like, don't mess with this woman.
Speaker 2: So she would throw me on her hip, pick up
Speaker 2: a machette, and then she'd say, come on, I'm going
Speaker 2: to take you into the bush, right, and my mom
Speaker 2: would go, don't take my child, and she'd say, shut up,
Speaker 2: she has to come and she has to learn right.
Speaker 2: And then she would take me and I was like
Speaker 2: ten or eleven, and she would take me and this
Speaker 2: take me up into the bush and then she'd show
Speaker 2: me things. Not that I remembered that much because I
Speaker 2: was teeny. You go into her house and she'd always
Speaker 2: have something boiling on the stove. It's always a bit dodger.
Speaker 3: What are you cooking up? People cooking up myths. It's
Speaker 3: a lot more starting them.
Speaker 2: She'd have all this stuff, and she'd have all these
Speaker 2: bottles and yeah, it's just beautiful. And then she'd have
Speaker 2: people just coming into the house all the time, and
Speaker 2: they'd be coming for healing, you know. So they'd go
Speaker 2: to traditional doctors and they wouldn't get healed or they
Speaker 2: wouldn't find their solutions, and then they'd just come to
Speaker 2: my grandmother. One of the things I started to do
Speaker 2: when I actually started working, first off, is that I
Speaker 2: would people say, well, you know, I've heard that you
Speaker 2: can do this thing jile, And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I've just got this ability to sit and connect. So
Speaker 2: I just say to people, come and sit with me,
Speaker 2: which is what my grandmother would do. So I said, yeah,
Speaker 2: just come sit with me and we'd talk and then
Speaker 2: I'd use some of my practical skills on my Palmestree
Speaker 2: or my Taro cards. But majority of the time I'm
Speaker 2: just tuning.
Speaker 1: I wonder you're a good chef as well, from boiling
Speaker 1: from boiling on the on the stove in Jamaica to hear.
Speaker 3: Skills passed down. My family didn't really pass much down
Speaker 3: to me. What do you get passed down?
Speaker 1: Worry, overthinking everything, that's what passes down in my family.
Speaker 4: Jeez.
Speaker 3: So you you'd already been hinted to that world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. My grandma would just look at me
Speaker 2: and go, you have my eyes and you can see
Speaker 2: you know, things, And I'd just like, really, I wasn't interested.
Speaker 2: I was interesting in boys.
Speaker 3: That's nice. Can you see a boyfriend for me?
Speaker 1: Please?
Speaker 3: That's all I want to see.
Speaker 1: Okay, So was there a specific thing or a series
Speaker 1: of events that made you go.
Speaker 3: Oh, I think I might have a little a little.
Speaker 2: Skill actually know what I still do that now, even
Speaker 2: thirty years later. Yeah, I still get shocked. Okay what
Speaker 2: I'm reading or you know, I work online majority of
Speaker 2: the time now, so I have clients all of the world.
Speaker 2: So you could be in India and I'm reading for you.
Speaker 3: How can you get through the internet that.
Speaker 2: It's not through the internet, it's through me.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: That's why I said, it's all intuitive, right, So if
Speaker 2: I have your name, I can just read.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, because I've always understood you know, like with
Speaker 1: palm reading. Yeah, like okay, well you're touching, you can
Speaker 1: see yeah, yeah, yeah, you know feel because I'm a
Speaker 1: big believer in like energy, right, okay, especially when you're
Speaker 1: in the space with someone.
Speaker 3: But like it's just you can just hear it, know
Speaker 3: someone's name and you can yeah really yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm what they call Claire audience. So I hear my information.
Speaker 2: But Claire audiency isn't It isn't the simplicity of just
Speaker 2: like you hearing a voice. It actually comes in the
Speaker 2: realms of feeling. So it's it's a little bit different.
Speaker 2: You kind of feel information. What I have to do
Speaker 2: is I have to put it into language. I have
Speaker 2: to put words to it. So I will sometimes I
Speaker 2: will literally hear somebody like I will hear voice and
Speaker 2: someone talking, and then other times I'll just get a feeling.
Speaker 2: But then I have to turn it into language. So
Speaker 2: as two things kind of happen at the same time.
Speaker 2: It's pretty weird interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to pull apart. Yeah it is.
Speaker 2: It's such a different expression. It's such a different world.
Speaker 3: You're a translator, yeah.
Speaker 2: You are. You become the conduit, like for energy, so
Speaker 2: you know, things come in and you're just that little
Speaker 2: conduit where the energy comes through and then you have
Speaker 2: to translate it. Sometimes, if I'm sitting with someone, if
Speaker 2: I'm reading their hands, I'm also connecting to them as well.
Speaker 2: So i'm holding someone's hand, I will be connecting and
Speaker 2: reading your energy. So yeah, there's a lot of things
Speaker 2: all happening at the same time.
Speaker 1: What happens is someone like me when I've got two names,
Speaker 1: I'm curious, Yeah, because I've got a name for art
Speaker 1: to the moment, I've got a name for me out
Speaker 1: of drag.
Speaker 2: So it doesn't kind of matter really or maybe like
Speaker 2: it just as long as you identify with it. If
Speaker 2: it's your name, then you identify with it. That's all
Speaker 2: that's important.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, maybe you could tap into
Speaker 1: art and you'd be like very sore feet, tap into
Speaker 1: my boy name Jack and be like tired. I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe they've got different traits, different moods. I've always been fascinated,
Speaker 1: but I'm scared because I don't like the unknown, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm very in my like everything is organized
Speaker 1: and what's happening, like everything laid out a plus big
Speaker 1: or see done. Really, So I'm terrified because I also
Speaker 1: hate bad news. Is there any times when you're reading
Speaker 1: where you're like, oh, this isn't very good because there's
Speaker 1: your whole.
Speaker 2: Difficult difficult moments. Yeah, of course, you know, it's like
Speaker 2: it's life, you know. You know where the skill is
Speaker 2: as a reader is that you're able to give the
Speaker 2: information to that person in a way that it you know,
Speaker 2: it doesn't harm or hurt you know, you give it
Speaker 2: in a way that helps them to understand that situation
Speaker 2: or how they can manage it better. You know, so
Speaker 2: you have to be really diplomatic, but yeah, you can
Speaker 2: find a way to communicate with someone if something is
Speaker 2: difficult or coming up or challenging, you know, you find
Speaker 2: a way to just give them the information that it
Speaker 2: doesn't harm them, but it helps them to manage it,
Speaker 2: which is the reason they call in you, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, it's got to be there scared. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: but it's like it's truth, you know. And it's like
Speaker 2: I often say the clients like, I'm not telling you
Speaker 2: stuff you don't already know true, you know, like people
Speaker 2: kind of go, oh, it's all mystic and it has
Speaker 2: got magic and it is beautiful. But at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, I'm not telling you anything that you
Speaker 2: don't already feel and you don't reason to know. What
Speaker 2: I do is I put it on the table right
Speaker 2: and make it and make you look at it, Look
Speaker 2: at it, take a good look at it.
Speaker 3: Come on, well, I guess it's true.
Speaker 1: It's also like tapping into something that they may subconsciously
Speaker 1: be wanting to address or think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'll think about it and you pull stuff
Speaker 2: out and it's and it's you know, it has a
Speaker 2: beauty about it, yeah, you know, and it's lovely. And
Speaker 2: that's what I love about this work. You go on
Speaker 2: these incredible journeys with people. It's intimate and unique, and
Speaker 2: they you step into someone's world, you know, I step
Speaker 2: into your well for half an hour. And I say
Speaker 2: that sometimes my clients I'm looking at their hands like
Speaker 2: I'm going to do your whole life right from whenever
Speaker 2: that is, I mean from not to fifty, Say you're
Speaker 2: fifty years old, I'm going to do you from not
Speaker 2: to fifty and half an hour, Like really give me
Speaker 2: some space, like really, don't expect any.
Speaker 3: Miracles like bam. Yeah, And I've got to.
Speaker 2: Hit it straight on where the struggle is or where
Speaker 2: the challenge is or what we need to address. I've
Speaker 2: got to hit it in half an hour. Can you
Speaker 2: imagine then, from my suspective as a reader, how much
Speaker 2: pressure that is? Right, I've got to find it and
Speaker 2: I've got to address it and hopefully give some guidance
Speaker 2: in your life structure in half an hour.
Speaker 3: What if someone doesn't want guidance? What color do I
Speaker 3: have around me?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm not your reader, so to go to.
Speaker 1: You specifically for like life guidance, Yeah, I mean that's
Speaker 1: what I'm good at.
Speaker 3: That scary, isn't it? Okay?
Speaker 1: Okay? Have you ever touched someone's hand and then got
Speaker 1: an electric shock? Like damn it? Just like just like
Speaker 1: like you know, a serious moment and some person's been
Speaker 1: rubbing their feet on the carpet.
Speaker 3: You're like, could you not please serious moments? Okay?
Speaker 1: Well, I think The only way to end this will
Speaker 1: be to ask you to read my giant part.
Speaker 3: I'm sweaty and glittery. You can see.
Speaker 2: Let's have a look at those little myths.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't say a little beautiful little mits you've got.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you need constant stimulation, all right. You're you
Speaker 2: get bored really easily, really fast, So you've got to
Speaker 2: be stimulated. You need lots of interaction like constant. Okay,
Speaker 2: you've got a lovely heartline.
Speaker 3: I like this, and.
Speaker 2: You have this ability to hold people in a very
Speaker 2: very special, unique way with your heart. I love that.
Speaker 2: So it also tells me about the elements of your
Speaker 2: imagination as well, so in terms of your stimulation. For you,
Speaker 2: anything in the realms of fantasy is also a really
Speaker 2: big thing.
Speaker 3: Look at that. M m m mmm.
Speaker 2: There is one thing that is for absolute sure is
Speaker 2: that whatever happens, you've got to be the boss.
Speaker 3: Wel you.
Speaker 1: Well, that was Jilly, and no she's not a travel agent,
Speaker 1: although she's done all that crazy shit all her life.
Speaker 1: She's in fact a psychic palmist, so she's been traveling
Speaker 1: a whole different world psychedelic baby. But the good news
Speaker 1: is I'm the boss, always have been, always will be.
Speaker 3: It's written in.
Speaker 1: The stars on my palm, you've been listening to an
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Speaker 3: I dare you go on read me.
Speaker 1: Momma.
Speaker 4: Yes,