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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: They were the teenage grunge sensations that took the world

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Speaker 2: by storm in the mid nineties, selling over ten million

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Speaker 2: albums worldwide, won more ARIA Awards than any other artist

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Speaker 2: in history. They were Silverchair and they rocked our socks off,

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Speaker 2: but behind the scenes they struggled with fame, with pressure,

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Speaker 2: health issues, personal conflicts.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: For the first time, the band's bassist Chris Joannu and

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Speaker 2: drummer Bengillies have written a candid and revealing memoir called

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Speaker 2: Love and Pain. Ben and Chris, Hello, I.

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Speaker 4: Think it was teenage heart throbs.

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Speaker 2: Heart throbs, let me put that in. Okay, I'll insert

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Speaker 2: that later in this live interview.

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Speaker 3: It's funny growing up with you guys. You know, I've

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Speaker 3: been in radio for a long time, and I remember

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Speaker 3: when I first heard Silverchair. I didn't believe that you

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Speaker 3: guys were as young as what you were, and the

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Speaker 3: record company at the time had put out a thing

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Speaker 3: they didn't want to say how old.

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Speaker 4: You were at all, because people would write you off

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Speaker 4: as like a sensation.

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Speaker 3: Sensation, and it was kind of curious. And then when

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Speaker 3: we discovered how young you.

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Speaker 4: Were, it was we were a sensation you were and

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Speaker 4: still this day a sensation.

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Speaker 2: How old were you then at the very beginning?

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Speaker 1: What we were like fourteen?

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Speaker 4: The band formed when we were twelve, and then it

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Speaker 4: took off when we were fourteen fifteen.

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Speaker 2: It's so young. Would it have been possible to have

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Speaker 2: success without trauma? And when I say trauma, I don't

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Speaker 2: mean to overeg it, but without the pain and the

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Speaker 2: discomfort and the fear and all of that starting a

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Speaker 2: band so young, could you have played it any differently?

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Speaker 1: I think you just had to get on for the

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Speaker 1: ride and live it, really, And I guess being so

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Speaker 1: young are you're going through so many phases in your

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Speaker 1: life through that period.

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Speaker 2: Where you were preacting at that age.

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Speaker 1: Under a lot of scrutiny, and I guess being confident

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Speaker 1: enough in putting yourself out there all the time. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: but in some ways it was oddly normalized too, I

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Speaker 1: think reality. Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think we had two things on our side is

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Speaker 4: the fact that we were young and naive, and the

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Speaker 4: other fact is that we were just so passionate about music.

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Speaker 4: That was our focus. So all this, all the other

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Speaker 4: kind of madness that was going on around us we

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Speaker 4: were blissfully unaware.

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Speaker 1: And we did have a good support network, you know,

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Speaker 1: family and management and stuff. For pretty fortunate in that sense.

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Speaker 2: When you say the madness around you, how mad did

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Speaker 2: it get? What's one of the moments we'd go, Wow,

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Speaker 2: that's mad?

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 4: Actually I remember a gig that we played at Luna

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Speaker 4: Park in Melbourne and we walked on stage and like

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Speaker 4: there was just screaming, people going absolutely berserk, and we

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Speaker 4: started playing and you literally couldn't hear. We really couldn't

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Speaker 4: hear what we were doing on stage because of people

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Speaker 4: just screaming. And that was that was the moment I

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Speaker 4: was like, this feels pretty surreal.

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Speaker 1: And I did it.

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Speaker 3: In hindsight, didn't feel easy for you guys, because you

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Speaker 3: look at musicians musicians and struggle and struggle for years

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Speaker 3: and not get anywhere, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: you guys, in a matter of moments, had the gift.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think we were very fortunate and feel very

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Speaker 1: lucky and blessed that we did get an opportunity.

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Speaker 4: I think that it was. I think the reason the

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Speaker 4: band took off how it did was just there was

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Speaker 4: a magic and a chemistry when the three of us

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Speaker 4: came together and when we played music together, and we've

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Speaker 4: done a reasonably a reasonable amount of playing for two

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Speaker 4: years from when we were twelve, Like, we just play

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Speaker 4: Newcastle called the Jolly Roger. We'd play there as much

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Speaker 1: Twelve year old.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it might have been thirteen.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was simple.

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Speaker 2: Times back drinking a shandy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Daniel's not involved in this book.

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Speaker 1: No, he's not. Ben originally was working on a book

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Speaker 1: just by himself, and he approached me and then I

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Speaker 1: was sort of like, oh, well, that's your thing, you're

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Speaker 1: doing it. And then I was like, you know, what

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Speaker 1: a great experience it would be to jump in and

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Speaker 1: just park all these memories in one spot. And it's

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Speaker 1: been an awesome journey to walk through some things that

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Speaker 1: were absolutely amazing and some things that were pretty tough.

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Speaker 3: But does that mean that you guys aren't talking to

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Speaker 3: Daniel because he's not in the book? Is that or

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Speaker 3: not involved in the book?

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Speaker 1: All drifted off into different directions over the years and

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Speaker 1: done different projects. And it's no disrespect to any individual

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Speaker 1: in the way things roll out. It's just what happened.

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Speaker 2: Would there ever be a Silver Chair reunion?

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Speaker 4: Look, I think, like Chris said, it's you. We're all

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Speaker 4: on different life journeys. You know, we're all doing our

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Speaker 4: own thing at the moment. And I think, I mean,

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Speaker 4: I can't well, I can't speak for Daniel, but you

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Speaker 4: know for myself, and I can't speak for Chris either, gone,

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Speaker 4: could you speak for being? I think look at where

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Speaker 4: I am and I think Chris is in life. You know,

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Speaker 4: we've got families and we've just we're really happy with

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Speaker 4: where we are. And I think the book was just

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Speaker 4: a moment to be able to tell our story because

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Speaker 4: it's a bloody great story and something for our kids too.

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Speaker 4: My motivation was when my kids were born. That was

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Speaker 4: the trigger point for me to go, I want to

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Speaker 4: tell my story of the experience in Silver Chair, and

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Speaker 4: I want something for my boys to be able to

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Speaker 4: read from my perspective.

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Speaker 3: Do you jam together lately? Do you? Guys?

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Speaker 1: We did have a little session right, yeah, such as

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Speaker 1: do bas and drums.

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Speaker 3: It's the dream.

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Speaker 2: Silverchair becomes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's definitely a a special feeling that I think

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Speaker 1: probably only the three of us I know, when we're

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Speaker 1: making music together. Word that's just better myself or three

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Speaker 4: It was pretty pretty.

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Speaker 3: Cool from my own perspective. I was in a band

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Speaker 3: when I was a kid with my mates do you play.

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Speaker 3: I was playing the drums and I was Dreadnape mad

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Speaker 3: Ben and I was with my brother. But one day

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Speaker 3: we were rehearsing at these rehearsal studios. John Swann came

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Speaker 3: down and we're allowed to having a smoke.

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Speaker 5: Boys, what's what's the name of your rig, what's the

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Speaker 5: name of your outfit? And we said it's a bad

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Speaker 5: element and he takes the dragon me smoty. Gess what

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Speaker 5: is that something on?

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Speaker 3: You're stole?

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Speaker 5: It doesn't work And I just was like.

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Speaker 3: That was my greatest moment.

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Speaker 5: So whenever when you guys, for every guy that's ever

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Speaker 5: played in the garage band that never made it, and

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Speaker 5: really reality is most garage bands are never going to

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Speaker 5: go anyway, you guys did it, and that to me

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Speaker 5: is the greatest thing in the world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was an amazing ride and does feel like another lifetime.

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Speaker 3: That's not to say all over now.

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Speaker 5: You know what's happening next, What's what's in the pipeline?

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Speaker 4: Well, there's a book out.

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Speaker 3: It's no one told us Ben and Chris. It's so

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Speaker 3: great to talk to you guys. You could purchase Love

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Speaker 3: and Pain from all good bookstores.

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Speaker 5: Boys, thank you, thank you, thanks for having us, and

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Speaker 5: check out part two, by the way of Silver Chair's

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Speaker 5: Australian story, tonight on the ABC. Thanks Chaps.