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Speaker 1: Ash, I think you're gonna love this episode.

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Speaker 2: I love every episode.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking about, but you love NRL,

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Speaker 3: and this is a love story that has come from

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Speaker 3: the world of NRL.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'm not going to say it's between a cheerleader

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Speaker 4: and an NRL player, because that would be off limits.

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Speaker 4: Matthew is a cheerleader and an under twenties player, which

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Speaker 4: I don't know how makes a difference.

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Speaker 1: That's us perfectly fine.

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Speaker 3: This episode is with Taylor Montoya, beautiful name, and she's

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Speaker 3: married to Marcelo Montoya, who plays with the Bulldogs currently,

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Speaker 3: who is a try scoring machine.

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Speaker 2: Matthew.

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Speaker 3: She is Italian background, he is Fiji, And yes she

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Speaker 3: was a cheerleader. Yes he plays NRL. But this is

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Speaker 3: a match made in heaven.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we talk about all things. Growing up in the area,

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Speaker 4: also having twins.

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Speaker 1: Growing up in what area? That's what they call the

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Speaker 1: Area's what's the area?

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Speaker 4: Ash, Oh my god, in the area.

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Speaker 1: What's the area?

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Speaker 3: And you want to say that, or you wanted to

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Speaker 3: say they talk about the area?

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Speaker 1: Take her a.

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Speaker 2: Different again, I guess, but no.

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Speaker 1: One's going to get that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone knows the area.

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Speaker 1: What's the area?

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Speaker 4: Anyway, Yes, we talk all things love, rugby league, cheerleading,

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Speaker 4: and twins and the area I don't like being more.

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Speaker 3: Her road to motherhood wasn't without its hiccups. She did

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Speaker 3: feel pregnant, which sadly did end in a miscarriage, but

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Speaker 3: the story does have a beautiful ending because she has

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Speaker 3: welcomed too beautiful twins. Just quickly, before we get into

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Speaker 3: the episode, I spotted Taylor on a footy show on

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Speaker 3: Fox and she was hilarious doing an interview with her partner,

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Speaker 3: and I thought, we have to get her on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: So this one is going to be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: She is hilarious.

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Speaker 5: Strap yourself in, listen do it.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to two doting dads and one doting mom.

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Speaker 3: I am Maddie, Jay.

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Speaker 6: I'm Ash, I'm Taylor.

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Speaker 1: Is a podcast all about parenting. It is the good,

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Speaker 1: it is.

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Speaker 2: The bad and the relatable and Tay Taylor Tane.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, sal friends here, we don't give advice, but

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Speaker 6: you're more than welcome to I guess you're.

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Speaker 1: Is this the first mother of twins? This is?

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Speaker 3: And also I have to apologize because you've been sitting here.

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Speaker 1: Fuck for half an hour. Literally, I honestly, I apologize.

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Speaker 2: Will all share the responsibility?

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Speaker 7: No, I love it.

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Speaker 6: This is like a holiday for me, guys, So take

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Speaker 6: your time.

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Speaker 4: We were just talking about being in the car on

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Speaker 4: the way anywhere without the kid.

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Speaker 2: It's better than the same.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, literally, especially now, Yeah, because you can be.

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Speaker 2: Like, you know, I'm gonna do you turn the rounding off.

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Speaker 2: We'll see her in silence.

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Speaker 3: You can, but we're taking away from like alone time

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Speaker 3: for take because she's just been sitting here as we've been.

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Speaker 1: Like the last oh god, apologies, no plea.

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Speaker 4: And we do like to start these episodes with our

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Speaker 4: guests by asking them a question about their childhood, and

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Speaker 4: we want to know, what's the most trouble you ever

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Speaker 4: got in as a child slash teenager?

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Speaker 6: M I was. I was like a pretty chill kid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't believe that for a.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Like to be honest, well, probably like around year nine,

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Speaker 6: year ten is when I kind of was like, oh cool, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: so that was when I probably started getting grounded. The

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Speaker 6: first time would have been a New Year's Eve party

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Speaker 6: school and my mom was like, you can go, but

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Speaker 7: And then so I went to this New Year's Eve party.

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Speaker 6: We call them gatheros in the Shire. It would be

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Speaker 6: like a bonfire in some random guy's backyard and then

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's summer.

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Speaker 6: And then like the whole week, people be like you're

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Speaker 7: And then so I went watched the fireworks there, a

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Speaker 6: It's a very big in and I thought everything went well.

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Speaker 6: I thought I came home unscathed. And then turns out

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Speaker 6: the boy that had the party, his older brother, was

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Speaker 6: in the same year as my older brother, and they

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Speaker 6: got talking one day and then my brother snitched.

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Speaker 7: And goes to you know there was parents are that much?

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Speaker 6: And then so my mom played the long game and

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Speaker 6: came up to me that day and was like, so,

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Speaker 6: is there anything you want to tell me? And I

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Speaker 6: Knew because I thought my brother always had my back

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Speaker 4: Was such a loaded question too, is Matthew, is there

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Speaker 4: anything that you want to tell me?

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Speaker 2: Literally?

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Speaker 6: And I'm like god like and like this is going

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Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, so, I was.

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Speaker 7: Like, look at me.

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Speaker 6: I didn't get with anyone at the gather. I was like,

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Speaker 6: it wouldn't have been that. And then she was like, well,

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Speaker 6: I've heard there was no parents and I was like

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Speaker 6: like they ordered us pizza the parents literally and she

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Speaker 6: was like I'm going to give you like five seconds

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Speaker 6: now to just confess. And I was like, okay, there's

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Speaker 6: of the school holidays, I had to make up excuses,

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Speaker 6: why do you want to hang out with my friends?

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Speaker 6: Like my friends didn't come from a strict parent Like

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Speaker 6: I was like, oh, no, like that sounds pretty lame.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to watch Jersey.

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Speaker 3: Literally, in the last few months gad to gather.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I love how like like back like then, parents

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my kids.

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Speaker 6: And I'm like, seriously now already like thinking about obviously

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Speaker 6: I would have me going at them. I'd call my mom,

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Speaker 6: I'd call my husband.

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Speaker 7: You are never leaving the house again, I did it?

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Speaker 1: Did you get your brother back at all?

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Speaker 6: I like literally was like, what the hell was that about?

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Speaker 6: And he's like, well, I don't like those group of

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Speaker 2: So maybe he saved you.

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Speaker 6: Actually yeah maybe actually, but yeah, and look like, to

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Speaker 2: So there you go. Yeah, yeah, long Bay, there at

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Speaker 2: a big gathero in prison.

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Speaker 1: All together.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually interested to know how does someone get into cheerleading?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, great question.

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Speaker 6: So I grew up dancing my whole life, and I

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Speaker 6: always aspired to be a Dallas Cowboy's chileader. That was

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Speaker 6: end game for me. And then probably around fifteen years old,

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Speaker 6: I realized I don't have the flexibility that's going to

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Speaker 6: NROL and see how Yeah, and I don't want to

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Speaker 6: talk about my brother again, but pretty much, he was

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Speaker 6: at a gavo and there was a Bulldogs cheerleader at

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Speaker 6: the party and he goes, what does my sister have

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Speaker 6: to do to get in the squad? And the chillier

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Speaker 6: at the time goes, we actually got auditions this week,

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Speaker 6: like if she's keen. So I went to the audition,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and I got in, and then yeah, the rest

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Speaker 1: Kind of what was audition like?

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Speaker 6: It was pretty chill at the time, like nothing like

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Speaker 6: the Dallas Cabos chierleaders. I'm like, god, like, have you

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Speaker 6: guys watched that show? Yeah? Yeah, it's crazy, like more

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Speaker 6: I just kind of got in and then did that

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Speaker 7: So yeah, so I've heard.

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Speaker 3: Can I ask is there any attraction to the world

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Speaker 6: I would say for me personally, yeah.

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Speaker 8: I.

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Speaker 6: Don't want to talk on behalf of other cheerleaders who

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Speaker 7: And that was their dreams around it.

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Speaker 6: There are there absolutely are.

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Speaker 1: Do they say, hey, do not do not look at

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Speaker 6: Yeah. So like at the time, I don't know what

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Speaker 6: it's like now, but because I was ten years ago now,

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Speaker 6: in the contract that you signed, it's like not fragnizing

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Speaker 6: with players. And I was like, well, that's fine because

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Speaker 6: when I met Marcello, he wasn't an n RL player,

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Speaker 6: was under twenties.

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Speaker 7: I was like, that's fine, Like, if anything, they'll appreciate.

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Speaker 2: So it's actually the like NRL players off limits. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's kind of weird, right because my parents met

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Speaker 7: Who was the pilot, Where did.

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Speaker 1: You guys meet you and myself?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So I would see him around like in the

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Speaker 6: sheds and stuff, and I always thought like the first

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Speaker 6: time I saw him, I was like, holy ship, they

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Speaker 6: did not make men like that in the ship. I've

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Speaker 6: never seen someone like tall, dark and handsome like that.

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Speaker 7: I don't know, he just like to be by surprise.

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Speaker 6: And the gather, but he kind of gives off really

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Speaker 6: resting bitch face. So I was like, okay, like he's

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Speaker 6: kind of rude, and I was like whatever, I'm not interested.

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Speaker 6: And then the club at the time holds a dinner

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Speaker 6: where the cheerleaders have dinner with the under twenties players.

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Speaker 8: I was going to say, going to say, you have

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Speaker 8: dinner with the dinner wat you just said.

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Speaker 2: We can't frightenize, and now you're putting us.

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Speaker 6: On speed dating literally, and it's like the purpose is

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Speaker 6: to like have an etiquette dinner, and it's kind of

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Speaker 6: like you like kind of have conversations and teach the

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Speaker 6: boys and the girls kind of how to have etiquette.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you do it in the room.

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Speaker 6: And I remember seeing him there and like he was

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Speaker 6: talking to my friend and he was kind of like

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Speaker 6: not giving me too much, So I was like, well,

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Speaker 6: stuff him. But then he followed me on Instagram later

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and then you know, sparks flew from there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so he is wrong.

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Speaker 1: I go hogs Breadth.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And so he pulled up at my house and

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Speaker 6: And I never smelled that before, and I was like,

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Speaker 4: It's like the equivalent of Leaks Africa literally.

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Speaker 7: Literally, and I was like, oh, okay, cool.

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Speaker 6: And then from that moment, I'm like it was just

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Speaker 6: They still have definitely not in Crenella anymore, unfortunately.

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Speaker 2: Not Inna.

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Speaker 3: They're still around in Brisbane. I think they're still doing

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Speaker 2: I went to one in Dubbo Ones It was terrible, shame.

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Speaker 8: Sorry he still existing, but remember all the old ads

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Miss Siler.

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Speaker 1: That's another story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember the moment that Marcello proposed to you?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: So I had been begging him for a proposal for

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Speaker 6: coming up to like twenty five years old and still

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Speaker 6: I know you shouldn't compare, but it's hard not to

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Speaker 6: do an your bloody bridesmaids freaking five times a year.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And so he was like to.

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Speaker 6: Me, I was I was graduating from my degree at

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Speaker 7: Celebrate your graduation. I was like, okay, cool before dinner.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I was like I didn't even think much of it,

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Speaker 6: And my mom I don't know why, but she thought

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Speaker 6: like Marcella's graduation present it's pretty huge.

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Speaker 7: It's not like you've been dreaming of. And I was like,

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Speaker 6: And I was like, did you want that idea? But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to.

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Speaker 6: Ye, I hear all the issues on Jesus Christ uninsurable. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: but I was like really and she's like yeah, Like

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Speaker 6: you got a French And I was like, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: She's like I get what she's doing, but it's an

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I wasn't suspicious though, so I was like, I

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Speaker 6: don't understand why she needed to do that, but yeah,

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Speaker 6: it seems to.

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Speaker 2: Be like why are you telling you?

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Speaker 6: Please start. So he took me to this hotel and

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Speaker 6: like he was like, oh, we'll take you up to

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Speaker 1: Right now.

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Speaker 6: So he under the blindfold and then yet said will

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Speaker 6: I was like, oh my god, yes, and I'm looking around.

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Speaker 6: I was like, where's the door and he was like

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Speaker 6: got me French ballot on. He's like, you want to

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Speaker 6: fucking ring and the French boll was like fifteen.

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Speaker 2: K and it's uninsurable.

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Speaker 7: And then and he was like what would your mom

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Speaker 6: And then he's like what fuck.

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Speaker 7: I'm happy, but like okay.

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Speaker 6: Dog, And then yeah, so that was the that was

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Speaker 4: And and then you had to go to the family

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the reason for the hotel before exactly

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Speaker 2: done that, yeah, in traffic.

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Speaker 6: And I think he knows like I because he originally

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Speaker 6: a whole thing with them and his family, and it's

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's like we were talking about if someone sings

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Speaker 8: if was like back in the day, or you can

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Speaker 2: Sawyer absolutely like.

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Speaker 1: Credits to people who do it at restaurants.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, another credit, do it somewhere.

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Speaker 3: Else between you and Marcelo, who was the person who

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Speaker 6: First, Yeah, definitely Marcello's Yeah, so like again the big

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Speaker 6: he was very respectable.

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Speaker 7: I'm respectful so for my career and kind of where

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Speaker 6: I was not ready at twenty two. I'm barely ready now.

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Speaker 2: Does he have a lot of siblings and he does, He's.

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Speaker 6: One of four, and then he's got mate that many cousins,

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Speaker 6: Like I can't keep up, Like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much.

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Speaker 7: You go to Fiji mentioned his name, I will do that.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, he was like not pastoring me, but he's

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Speaker 7: Early on, whereas for other people.

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Speaker 6: stuff you up really bad. So as soon as we

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Speaker 7: Like this is going to sound so crazy, but tell us.

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Speaker 6: Coming off the pill, I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 7: It gets to that, like it's it's crazy.

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Speaker 6: It's a weird feeling, especially for.

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Speaker 2: Like young man.

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Speaker 4: We don't at that age, like even now, I'm only

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Speaker 6: And then so when I came off the pill, suddenly,

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Speaker 7: I was like, yeah, like if you love me, then.

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Speaker 6: So I got off it and then we were married

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Speaker 6: So it was a partial mol of pregnancy, Okay, And

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Speaker 6: you don't really like I'm lucky in a way that

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Speaker 6: normally when you have a miscarriage, there's a lot that

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Speaker 6: I'm like, hey, how do I avoid this?

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Speaker 7: Like what the fuck?

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Speaker 6: But luckily, luckily for me, I got the surgery to

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Speaker 6: and find out that two sperms entered the one egg.

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Speaker 3: So when you had your miscarriage, what test did they

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Speaker 3: do to find that out?

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Speaker 6: So when I got it's called like this DNC, So

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Speaker 6: they take that off to a lab and test it

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Speaker 6: and that's how they found out.

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Speaker 7: So it was crazy.

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Speaker 4: ever have known that you had or was that the

445
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:13,919
Speaker 4: like I mean like I'm.

446
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 6: Trying to figure yeah, Like it's honestly, I'd never heard about.

447
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 6: So it happens in one percent of pregnancy, so it's

448
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 6: extremely rare.

449
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 2: It is rare.

450
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 6: I think it's like one in twelve hundred pregnancies. Like, so,

451
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 6: what happens is the chromosome. It's got to triple the

452
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 6: amount of chromosomes as to what needed pretty much.

453
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 2: So.

454
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 6: But the weird thing about it is once they remove it.

455
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 6: So when I found out, I got a call from

456
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 6: the gynecologists on Christmas Day, and I was like, why

457
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 6: is this guy calling me?

458
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 3: Because I had kind of what kind of gynocologist Christmas for.

459
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 6: All I knew at the time was Okay, I was pregnant,

460
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 6: and at ten weeks I went for an ultrasound and

461
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 6: the heart wasn't beating, so they removed it. That's all

462
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 6: I thought. I thought I'd never find out answers. I

463
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 6: thought they'd be like, it was just a miscarriage whatever.

464
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 6: And then so when I got a call on Christmas Day,

465
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 6: he was like, okay, so yours is a bit different.

466
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 7: It's a partial mole of pregnancy.

467
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 6: Two sperms went in the one egg, so I'm going

468
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 6: to need you to do all these things to me.

469
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:12,640
Speaker 6: And I was like, oh my god, Like I'm kind

470
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 6: of just still dealing with the fact that I've had

471
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 6: a miscarriage, Like what do you mean and he's like,

472
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 6: so pretty much because it's formed an abnormal cyst is

473
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 6: pretty much what they called it. It can continue to

474
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 6: grow if all of it wasn't removed, and to like

475
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 6: get rid of it, you need chemotherapy.

476
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 7: And I was like, holy shit, what do you mean,

477
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 7: Like like I'm trying to deal with Christmas lunch and

478
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 7: I was like I don't understand.

479
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,239
Speaker 6: I'm asking all these questions and he's like, sent me

480
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 6: this article treat He's like, this article will explain it

481
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 6: better than I can, because he's like it's just such

482
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:47,719
Speaker 6: a rare thing.

483
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 7: Trap your head around.

484
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 6: So then, pretty much from that phone call, as soon

485
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 6: as labs opened up again, I had to go for

486
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 6: weekly blood tests to make sure my hCG was lowering,

487
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 6: because if it wasn't, then would show my body would

488
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 6: still think I was pregnant and growing this abnormal tissue

489
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 6: and then would have to go through chemotherapy.

490
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 2: That's why.

491
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, At the same time as dealing with all of that,

492
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 3: for people who haven't had a miscarriage or experience that

493
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 3: situation with their partner, there's a real emotional whiplash because

494
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 3: you going, oh my God, I'm pregnant. Yeah, quickly going okay,

495
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 3: well this life I was imagining is now completely taken away.

496
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 3: How did you deal with the emotions of finding out

497
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 3: you had a miscarriage?

498
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 6: Oh, Like, honestly, like you said, we weren't those people

499
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 6: that thought we're going to wait till twelve weeks to

500
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 6: tell people I'm pregnant, like the test said, like so

501
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 6: why why wait? So we were telling my family, his family,

502
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 6: like my close friends, and you get wrapped up in

503
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 6: that excitement because it's a beautiful thing. Everyone's excited for you,

504
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 6: and you want to be You want to share that

505
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 6: enjoyment with people, and then to then yeah, miscarry and

506
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 6: then go through that. So at the time, we're in

507
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 6: New Zealand, just me and my husband, no family around

508
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 6: there or from Sydney. So I guess in a way

509
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 6: we really leaned on each other. And like, I know

510
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 6: he wouldn't mind me saying this, but he probably struggled a.

511
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 7: Bit more than I did.

512
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,719
Speaker 6: I think because it's my body and I kind of

513
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 6: can grasp what's happening a bit more, whereas like the male,

514
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 6: like you've contributed to this thing, but you're removed from it.

515
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 6: So but it's like, but hang on, so like was

516
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 6: it real like kind of thing. So he kind of

517
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 6: tackled a bit more than me, but we were just

518
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 6: there for each other and really leaned on each other.

519
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 6: And honestly, like this is gonna sound weird, but like

520
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 6: a dog, like the amount of happiness that dog brought

521
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 6: me because my husband was during pre season, so he's

522
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 6: still going to work every day and I had no

523
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 6: family around, so be me and my sausage dog, and

524
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 6: like I'd be crying on the couch watching bloody Vanda

525
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 6: punt rules and then heat out of nowhere like fart

526
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 6: and I just like.

527
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 7: Laugh like things like that.

528
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm to go through that.

529
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, But yeah, it must be isolating to

530
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:03,719
Speaker 4: being in a different country.

531
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, New Zealand.

532
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 4: And there's there's players over there in the team. Yeah

533
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 4: they have partis and stuff, but they're not you. They're

534
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 4: not your yeah yeah your.

535
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 2: Group, yeah exactly.

536
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, they're not at the gather and.

537
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 6: Like there's only so much, like your mom can be

538
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 6: there for you over FaceTime as well, Like my mom

539
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 6: and dad would FaceTime me like every two hours, pretty

540
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 6: much knowing that Muscella was at work all day.

541
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 3: There's something about being overseas and away from your family

542
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 3: that just heighten every emotion. I can't imagine experiencing something

543
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 3: like a miscarriagter.

544
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, full on.

545
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 4: We've spoken to people that have had miscarriages before and

546
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 4: the anxiety going into it again.

547
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 6: Yeah.

548
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 4: How long after the after you found out, you decide,

549
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 4: to lack of a better term, get back on the horse.

550
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 6: Yeah. Well literally, Like I've got an obsessive personality, so

551
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 6: to be pregnant and then have it taken away from you.

552
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 6: I went from being like, oh, kids, it'll happen when

553
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 6: it happened, to them being like no, fuck this, Like

554
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 6: I just had that, like.

555
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 7: I want it, like I want I want it back.

556
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 6: But our obstetrition because of the type of miscarriage I had,

557
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 6: was like, it's not advised to start trying within six

558
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 6: months to a year because there's a higher chance of

559
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 6: complications now. And I was like, yeah, that's fine. So

560
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 6: I was like, what can I do to control this

561
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 6: situation if I can, So I went to naturopaths and acupuncture,

562
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 6: and because my cycle TM, I sorry, guys, my cycle

563
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 6: went from being like perfect to then getting this miscarriage.

564
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 6: So then going to like forty days, and I was like,

565
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 6: well that's not healthy, Like what's going on with me?

566
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 6: So I was just stress, stress stress. I went on

567
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 6: all whole foods diet, which I'd love a bit of

568
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 6: that now because I'd love that determination because now you

569
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 6: should see what I eat. But so I kind of

570
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 6: just tried to control things like that, but got quite obsessive.

571
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,360
Speaker 6: So then the minute I kind of was like, you're

572
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 6: being an idiot, now just and relaxed.

573
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 7: Then I felt pregnant again. Naturally.

574
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 6: God.

575
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 7: I miscarried in November. I fell in March.

576
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: Wow.

577
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I remember ringing my obstecution.

578
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: He was like, I.

579
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 6: Said, and he was like really And I was like

580
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 6: well yeah, And he's like, okay, we're gonna have to

581
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 6: get a blood test immediately and then bring you in

582
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,959
Speaker 6: for a scan to make sure it's not that same tissue.

583
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 6: Like and I was like, fuck me, dad, nothing's ever straightforward,

584
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 6: Like I was like, let me just enjoy this moment.

585
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 7: But yeah, so like four or five months later, yeah.

586
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 3: Wow, And so how do you find out what was

587
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 3: this situation where you I told the news that you

588
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 3: were carrying twins?

589
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 6: It was crazy, man, so at the time, Marcello had

590
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 6: just flown back to Sydney to think they were versing

591
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 6: dragons or something. So I was home by myself in

592
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 6: New Zealand and I told my mom I was pregnant.

593
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 6: I was like, well, I'm going for the first scan

594
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 6: at six weeks because my HGG is really high. So

595
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 6: they kind of worried and she was like, okay, cool.

596
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 6: Didn't say anything. The day before the skin, some people

597
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 6: knock at my door and I'm like, I don't answer doors,

598
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 6: especially wh myles. It's not home. I just no one

599
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 6: come see me. So I'm like sitting like watching the

600
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 6: Telly for ten minutes and these people are knocking, knocking, knocking,

601
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 6: and I'm like, oh my god, they're persistent. And I

602
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 6: opened the door.

603
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 2: Literally a phone call when someone knocks on our door

604
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: and I'm not home.

605
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 6: Someone at the door like, yeah, that's exactly like me.

606
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 6: So yeah, finally open the dawns and my mom, my

607
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 6: mom and dad. So they had surprised me to be

608
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 6: with me.

609
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 4: Door away get the fu.

610
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 6: So they had surprised me to come to the scan

611
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 6: with me just in case. Yeah yeah. And then so

612
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 6: we went to the scan and my dad was like, oh,

613
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 6: wait outside. I was like, that's a great idea because

614
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 6: this early on, they'll go internal. So you went outside

615
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 6: and so me and mom in the chair and they

616
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 6: went over the stomach at first, and she's like, oh,

617
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 6: great news, like there's the heartbeat. I was like, oh

618
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 6: my god, unreal because I never got to experience that

619
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 6: the first time. So I was like, amazing, I'm on

620
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 6: like cloud nine. My mom's crying. She's like, wow, a miracle.

621
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: Amazing it is.

622
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, and so early on too, because that's six weeks.

623
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 6: I was not. I thought it would just be like

624
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 6: adult like the first time. And then so she was like,

625
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 6: but I just want to take a closer look, you know,

626
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 6: given your history. So yeah, yeah, literally said.

627
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 7: She's like, go, I'm to your bladder and come back in.

628
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 6: And then immediately, like my mom's body language sunk, I sunk.

629
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 6: And then I come back and then get on the

630
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 6: table and then she like goes internally and she's like, okay, yep,

631
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 6: so I just want to confirm there is the heartbeat.

632
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 6: So we're all good there and I was like unreal,

633
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,479
Speaker 6: and she's like, but I just want to draw your

634
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 6: attention to this area and I was like yeah, and

635
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 6: like I don't know what I'm looking at it. And

636
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 6: then she's like, so heartbeat one and then you'll just

637
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 6: see there's another heartbeat here. And literally before I could

638
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 6: say anything, my mom's like, I'm.

639
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 7: Like, holy shit, so come down, my bloody won't. And

640
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 7: I was like, what do you mean?

641
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 6: And she's like, you're having twins, honey, And I was like,

642
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 6: oh man, what And.

643
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 7: The lady doing the skin was a twin mom herself.

644
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 7: So I was like, that is like destiny.

645
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 6: Because I said to her without thinking, I'm gonna need

646
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 6: a bigger fucking card. She's like, no, honey, I had

647
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 6: twins in a yarras your and then so like from

648
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,239
Speaker 6: that moment on, she was able to tell me they

649
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 6: were identical twins. I don't know how, but she could

650
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 6: see there was only one placenta, so that confirms it's identical.

651
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 2: That's the question I had about the twins.

652
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 4: So one placenta, but you can have two if they're

653
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 4: not identical.

654
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 6: Yes, So fraternal is two placentas, like each baby gets

655
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 6: their own placenta, which is luxury. And then in my

656
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 6: case there was one placenta, two sacks. So the way

657
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 6: she said to me was they're in the same house,

658
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 6: own bedroom, same bathroom.

659
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 7: I was like, okay.

660
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 6: So from that point on, like my mom's just a mess,

661
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 6: like a combination of happy tears and like what the fuck.

662
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 6: And then we walk out of the room and my

663
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 6: dad looks at me and he sees my mom's face.

664
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,239
Speaker 6: He's like a ghost, bawling her eyes down. So he's like,

665
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 6: oh my god, like what's happened. I was like, I'm

666
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 6: having twins. And he's like, fuck you, Taylor. You never

667
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 6: take serious.

668
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 7: We have a very dark humor now fairly.

669
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 6: And I was like, Dad, I'm having twins, and he's like,

670
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 6: I can't take you seriously.

671
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 7: He's such a bullshitter.

672
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 6: And and then he looks at my mom and she's

673
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 6: like she's had fucking and he's like yes, and everyone's

674
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 6: looking at me. In New Zealand as well. People are

675
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 6: very in.

676
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 2: The New Zealand medical practice. There's three going off there.

677
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 6: Literally everyone's like okay, so yeah, And then like the

678
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 6: ride home, I was like to mom, We're gonna have

679
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 6: to FaceTime Marcelo, like I can't keep this from him.

680
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 6: They had just lost so he was in a really

681
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 6: crazy meeting like with the coach and all that, and

682
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 6: they were kind of I think getting like the review. Yeah,

683
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 6: and then so he ran out and he didn't look

684
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 6: very happy, and I was like, he was like, how

685
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 6: did it all go? And I was like yeah, fine,

686
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 6: and he's like, oh cool, and I was like, yes,

687
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 6: so we're having twins and he was like, you're fucking

688
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 6: kidding and I was like, no, we're having twins. He's like,

689
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 6: I'm gonna have to start playing Origin.

690
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: Was a money mask.

691
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: We're going to need some forward.

692
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 6: But then so yeah, kind of just from that point on,

693
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 6: because they were identical twins, I got the rundown straight away,

694
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 6: fortnightly scans from pretty much six weeks to full term.

695
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: Was the birth straightforward?

696
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, straightforward as I could imagine twins. So the plan

697
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 6: originally was to have the babies in New Zealand because

698
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 6: my husband was contracted for the Warriors for a few

699
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 6: more years. So like met with this beautiful obstetricia. He

700
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 6: was pretty set on having a C section, and I

701
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 6: kind of didn't really know much about either, so I

702
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 6: was like, whatever safest, I don't really care. And then

703
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 6: as my pregnancy progressed, everything was looking fine, and then

704
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 6: Mussello ended up signing a deal with a club in

705
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 6: Sydney when I was thirty two weeks pregnant with twins,

706
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 6: which is great, it is great to come home to family,

707
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 6: but not great in the fact that I was like,

708
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 6: not really no, so.

709
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, as soon as you said that I was.

710
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 6: Threshold with high risk twins, like yeah, So when I

711
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 6: got told that, I was like to my obstetrition hey mate,

712
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 6: thanks for your help, like all this pregnancy, but I'm

713
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 6: a dip. Yeah, keep the money. Like literally, I was like,

714
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 6: please give me medical clearance. So he did one last

715
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 6: scan on me and he was like it's fine, it's

716
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 6: a three hour flight. Granted me medical clearance and then

717
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 6: I was like soon as we landed, like, let's find

718
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 6: someone to deliver my babies. And found this amazing obstetrician

719
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 6: in Cogra who was like, if you want to do

720
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 6: this vaginally, like I got you, let's do it. And

721
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 6: I was like, shit, yeah, how.

722
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: Does she got.

723
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 6: Somefore I'm action up there out but I was like,

724
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 6: because I was like to mussel I don't want to

725
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 6: not drive for six weeks after Like their job is

726
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 6: like so intense, like they're never home rightly, so they're

727
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 6: always training or traveling. And the time that I was

728
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 6: due was right in the heart of pre season, and

729
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 6: for like the NRL season, pre season is like the

730
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 6: most intense.

731
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 7: They're like out of the house by five am, home

732
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 7: by seven. It's like the wildest thing. So I was like,

733
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 7: I need to be able to drive, like just doctor's.

734
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 6: Appointments things like that. So I was like, if I can, like,

735
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 6: let's just do it. And then yeah, I didn't really

736
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 6: think about that choice until I was in the birthing suite,

737
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 6: couldn't sleep and had one woman.

738
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,959
Speaker 7: Push out one and I was like, I gotta fucking

739
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 7: do this.

740
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 6: Twice I was like, like, it's too late, But yeah,

741
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:27,959
Speaker 6: it ended up working out well. Section no vaginally going

742
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 6: through thank you, Yeah, come.

743
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 2: On, sorry sorry. I was like I was expecting.

744
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 6: Anyway I could drive six weeks no, So yeah, that

745
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 6: whole ordeal was God, it felt like a lifetime.

746
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 7: But they were born eight minutes apart, So you mentioned, yeah,

747
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 7: is that quick?

748
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: I think, so, yeah, I wonder how long it can

749
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 2: actually get.

750
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I think if it gets too long with twins,

751
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 6: they will put you into an emergency Caesar because there was.

752
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 7: He did give me the rundown.

753
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 6: You might be able to give birth vaginally for the

754
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 6: first one, twin a, and then we might cut you

755
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 6: open for twin Ben.

756
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 4: Want the bigger one to come first, yeah, and she didn't.

757
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 6: The smaller one came first, head first, and then the

758
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 6: second one came legs first and bigger.

759
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 2: Going on.

760
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 6: Yeah. I mentioned before that they were PREMI yeah weeks

761
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 6: so quite lucky to be honest, thirty six weeks so

762
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 6: pretty good. I was told because there was such a

763
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 6: high risk identical more high risk because there's this thing

764
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 6: called like one placenta. There's like, what could happen is

765
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 6: the placenta starts to favor one baby, and then that's

766
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 6: why you have to go for routine scans because the

767
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 6: minute the growth starts to get kind of big, they're like, okay,

768
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 6: the placenta's only kind of feeding one baby. Like we

769
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 6: need to induce you now, like people have had identical

770
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 6: twins at like twenty eight weeks.

771
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, yes, yeah.

772
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: I suppose like, yeah, the one just mal nurish. You

773
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: don't want exactly I want that? And do they have

774
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: to spend some time in Nico?

775
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, So they thought they were a lot bigger

776
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 6: than what they actually were. So when they were.

777
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 2: Born, did that before or after?

778
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 6: Yeah? Well literally, like my whole pregnancy, they're like they're

779
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 6: They're right up there with singular babies. I'm like, oh

780
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 6: my god, I'm doing so well, like for someone with

781
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 6: low iron.

782
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, And then.

783
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 6: When they were born, we were guessing, like the nurses

784
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 6: like guess, like they only have to be over two

785
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 6: point five to avoid specially, ok And I was like,

786
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 6: that was not like four weeks ago. And then twin

787
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 6: one ended up being born at one point eight and

788
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 6: Milan at two point two, So like it went from

789
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 6: like riding high to like, Okay, they're going to spend

790
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 6: quite a while in special care. It ended up being

791
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 6: three four weeks.

792
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you go back and forth.

793
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: Is that how it works? Yeah?

794
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 6: Kind of. So for the first week they wanted me

795
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 6: around like in the hospital like for your milk supply

796
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 6: and bonding and stuff. But I mean bonding in the kniku.

797
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 6: It's not the nicest there, Like it's.

798
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: Like the bubble Boy and sign film.

799
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 6: Literally literally I wasn't allowed to touch them for about

800
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 6: two days and then after that they that's hard it's

801
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 6: so hard, and like I would even like sneak because

802
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 6: they were in like like an incubator. I guess their

803
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 6: legs I could touch, so when the nerve, like the

804
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 6: midwife will by like touch their little leg and then

805
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 6: the heart rate would like like go crazy, would yeah,

806
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 6: So then the midwife would come over and be like, look,

807
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 6: I know you think you've got the magic time, but

808
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 6: we really can't be touched on the heart. And I

809
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 6: was like, oh my god, like that's what it felt

810
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 6: like and it's really dark room.

811
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: And then what's that first hold line?

812
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I.

813
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 6: Got I was lucky enough to get the first hold

814
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 6: after giving birth. They gave me skin to skin, so

815
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 6: but to be honest, like it's an outer body experience.

816
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 7: In the moment, you don't really remember. I don't remember

817
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 7: it now.

818
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 6: So the special care though it was it was beautiful

819
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 6: but terrifying because they were tiny, like when I'm like

820
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 6: the size of my really yeah, not much bigger. Like

821
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 6: I've even got this photo and I'm holding both of

822
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 6: them and I'm covering them pretty much like it's just

823
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 6: their head.

824
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

825
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 7: It's crazy.

826
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 6: So that like I was trying to be delicate I'm

827
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 6: not a delicate person. As you can see, my hands

828
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 6: are going ever literally and I'm like and I like,

829
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 6: my babies were pretty much the first babies I really

830
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 6: ever hearld And then you're kind of trying to not

831
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 6: look awkward in front of these midwives because you're like,

832
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 6: oh my god, they're going to think I'm like not

833
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 6: capable of me.

834
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 7: And then like, yeah, it was surreal, really surreal.

835
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: So small.

836
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to think back to when I had Marley,

837
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 3: my first child, and I don't think anything can really

838
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 3: prepare you for the newborn face. Yeah, you can kind

839
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: of see little snippets of your friends and other family

840
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 3: who've got a newborn.

841
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: You can read the books.

842
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 3: I didn't read your books, but until you're in the trenches, nothing,

843
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 3: why I prepares you for it.

844
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: And then you've got two of them?

845
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 6: What is that like?

846
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 7: Same as you.

847
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 6: It didn't hit me until that first night I gave birth.

848
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 6: So the babies went away to special care. I got

849
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 6: taken back up to the maternity ward and I was

850
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 6: just in a public hospital. So I'm sharing with like

851
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 6: four other mothers some globe literally, so like some mothers

852
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 6: have their newborn babies with them. Some are going into

853
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 6: labor the next day, like and I'm just here. No

854
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 6: baby's in my stomach, no baby's by my bed, but

855
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 6: I can hear babies crying, and I'm and like Marcella

856
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 6: had to go home because he had worked the next

857
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 6: day at five am. So I was like literally on

858
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 6: the bed and it all hit me and I just

859
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 6: burst into tears, and I was like, you should have

860
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 6: read a fucking book, you idiot. Like the whole time

861
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 6: you're pregnant with twins, especially people like how are you

862
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 6: going to do it? Oh my god, one's hard enough,

863
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 6: Oh my god. And I didn't think anything of it.

864
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 6: I would just laugh those comments off. And then when

865
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 6: I sat there on the bed, I was like, those

866
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 6: motherfuckers were right.

867
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 7: How am I going to do this?

868
00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 6: I was like, so I remember my obscitration like weeks ago.

869
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 6: One of the appointments gave me, like a twins what

870
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 6: to expect me, and I had it in my hospital back.

871
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 6: So I was like, I'm going to read that and

872
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 6: what to expect two of them literally, and I'm sitting

873
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 6: there reading and it's not a good leaflet to give

874
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 6: to a mother because it goes into how high chance

875
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 6: it is to get postnatal depression with twins and triplets

876
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 6: and all that, and I was like, well, okay, cool negative.

877
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 6: So I kind of just like shove that to my

878
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 6: side and was like, well I'm here now, like just

879
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 6: get into it. And that was the start of a

880
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 6: three four week journey of just getting to know them,

881
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 6: like trying like trying to breastfeed, getting to know the

882
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 6: other parents in special care, because oh my god, like

883
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 6: that was eye opening, Like I was. We were very

884
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 6: lucky that my twins. After the first couple of days,

885
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 6: they were kind of just in there to learn how

886
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 6: to feed because that was so small, and learn how

887
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 6: to breathe and feed at the same time. So they

888
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 6: were put on caffeine for the first five days of

889
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 6: their life. The babies were and I was like canos

890
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 6: literally I was mine because I was having coffee all

891
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 6: it literally Italian. So they were on caffeine, and then

892
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 6: after that it was kind of just like building them up.

893
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 6: But some of the other parents in there, like there

894
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 6: was another set of twins that were born at twenty

895
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 6: seven weeks, and those poor babies were in and out

896
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 6: of operations like every time, like every week I would

897
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 6: go there, the mother was just there and I would like,

898
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 6: that is one of the most eye opening experiences of

899
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 6: my life. And I take my hat off to the

900
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 6: midwives in special care and all parents that have been there,

901
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 6: because it's it's not what you expect when you when

902
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 6: you're pregnant and you see all these things on social

903
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 6: media and it's like, oh my god, a woman eating

904
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 6: sushi after she's just given a birth.

905
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 4: So much about how happy and how yeah perfect, everything's.

906
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: Going to be.

907
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 4: And then you meet someone like yourself, or you meet

908
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 4: someone who's like a friend of mine had a kid

909
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 4: that it was twenty.

910
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 2: Six weeks yeah, and so yeah, the mental toll on

911
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 2: him and his wife. I don't think they'll ever be

912
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: the same.

913
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

914
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: Yes, it's not talked about enough.

915
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 6: Hundred and yeah. I remember literally like seeing that all

916
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 6: over socials. And then when I was in this dark

917
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 6: hospital room listening to other babies cry with a bloody leaflet,

918
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 6: I was like, well, this is not the fucking Instagram.

919
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, it's not the it's not the Instagram world.

920
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 7: It's gonna get fucking likes.

921
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 6: So yeah, And then getting to know other parents and

922
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 6: then trying to breastfeed twins in special care. You've got

923
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 6: midwives and I know they're trying their hardest because they

924
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 6: want you to have that bond. And it's big on

925
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 6: the milk supply the first week, the first few days.

926
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 6: So like, bless my husband during the pregnancy bought me

927
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 6: one of those twin feeding breastfeeding pillows and he's like,

928
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 6: you're going to use this religiously. Trust me. The girl

929
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 6: at the shop and I was like, you bought a

930
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 6: fucking three hundred dollar pillow. She's going to tell you

931
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 6: it's made a goal. I was like, you know, we

932
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 6: have couch cushions.

933
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: Interesting taken advantage of it.

934
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 6: Literally, So the next day at the hospital he brought

935
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 6: the damn pillow and it's like to all the midwives,

936
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 6: she's got the pillow. And then having two babies there

937
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 6: and like like you've got strangers around you, like other

938
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 6: dads and stuff, and it's like your topless. It's like

939
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 6: the weirdest thing ever. And I'm like, I'm like, they're

940
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 6: not looking at me.

941
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: I know they're not that good.

942
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 6: Literally literally, and I was like I was like, this

943
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 6: is just weird neighbors next door.

944
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 3: It must be so weird because I'm sure you never

945
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 3: imagine being a mother to twins, never, But the mother

946
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 3: you are now, is it similar or quite far away

947
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 3: from the mum that you imagine you would be?

948
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 6: Oh my god, so much further apart to what I

949
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 6: thought i'd be in what way, Like before I knew

950
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 6: I was having twins, I was like, I am going

951
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 6: to be so zen.

952
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 7: I'm gonna be jealous mom.

953
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 6: Like my mom is highly strung. She's me copy and paste,

954
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 6: so she so street growing up, so like with discipline

955
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 6: us like loved a wooden spoon, you know.

956
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 7: So I was like, I'm not going to be like that.

957
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 6: I'm so chill, like my husband's Fiji, and I'm going

958
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 6: to adapth that life.

959
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

960
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 6: And then when I found out I was having twins,

961
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 6: and then now that the girls are here, mate, I'm

962
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 6: already like you see when they're like wingsing at me,

963
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 6: I'm like, don't talk to mom like that. Like so,

964
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 6: and I'm not as calm as I thought I would be.

965
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 6: I would think the newborn phase. I would be one

966
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 6: of those idiots that would say I worked full time

967
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 6: my whole life. I worked shift work, I didn't eat sleep,

968
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 6: I don't care. I am wake up for five years

969
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 6: of my life now, how are it's going to be?

970
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 6: Jesus Christ, there's no HR department when like it's yeah,

971
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 6: not like the whole no sleep and two babies. Like

972
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 6: the things with twins is the newborn like they one

973
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 6: will set the other off, or like at the time

974
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 6: they were so small and tiny, so one feed would

975
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 6: take like an hour to an hour and a half

976
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 6: and they need to be fed every three hours because

977
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 6: they were premies.

978
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 4: Do they Is there any like talk about, you know,

979
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 4: trying to get them in the same cycle. Yeah, I

980
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 4: mean because obviously when you have one and it's like, okay,

981
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 4: we'll get them in the routine as soon as soon

982
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 4: as you get as best as you can.

983
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: You got to just try your bet. But then I

984
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: can imagine like being.

985
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 4: In the thick of that with no sleepers, like okay,

986
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 4: we need to get them on the same side.

987
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 6: Literally, So every twin parent I came across through my

988
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 6: pregnancy was like, you've got to get them on the

989
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 6: same schedule.

990
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 2: Got it?

991
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 6: And again I was like I'm not like that. I

992
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 6: don't have a schedule for myself, Like every day is different.

993
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 1: Did you manage to get the twins on the same cycle.

994
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 6: Yeah.

995
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

996
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 6: So the first night when they were newborns and they

997
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 6: weren't in a routine, I was like, okay, so this

998
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,439
Speaker 6: is why everyone says getting a routine. So it would

999
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 6: be one would wake up feed and then the other

1000
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 6: one would wake up and feed.

1001
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, fuck, this that's a.

1002
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 6: Long didn't sleep at all that whole night. So from

1003
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 6: the from that day and I was like, okay, I'm

1004
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 6: going to be adamant here. So I would do every

1005
00:46:54,840 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 6: feed tandem or bottles obviously feed. Yeah, it's a crazy thing.

1006
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, Look I didn't know whether I could ask

1007
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 8: that question, whether you do it at the same time.

1008
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I.

1009
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 1: Have you on the routine with the pillow, with the.

1010
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 6: Pillow, got to work the pillows. So yeah, and now

1011
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 6: to this day, it's crazy, but they like they ship

1012
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 6: at the same time now, like everything is literally if

1013
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 6: one's got a dirty nappy, like within two minutes, I

1014
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 6: hear the other pushing, Like it's crazy.

1015
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 4: Do you have you Look, I don't know because I've

1016
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 4: never had twins. Do you have you ever mistakenly identified

1017
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 4: one of them?

1018
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: Never?

1019
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 6: So this seems like something like people ask me all

1020
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 6: the time because they are identical.

1021
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 7: From the get go.

1022
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 6: They've never looked similar to me ever, like to even

1023
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 6: at the point in special care, I'd be like to

1024
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 6: the midwife, they're not freaking identical.

1025
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 7: Other like, oh honey, they're pretty similar. And even as they.

1026
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 6: Grow they like everyone's like, wow, they're really identical. I'm like,

1027
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 6: what are you looking at?

1028
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so bad with identical.

1029
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 4: I remember I had a mate I didn't know yet,

1030
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 4: like I meet him playing soccer. I didn't know he

1031
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 4: had an identical twin. And then I turned up to

1032
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 4: soccer once an.

1033
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: Identical twin was there and I was like I started talking.

1034
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 8: To him like it was like I was like, that's rude.

1035
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 8: And then he was like you must know my brother.

1036
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 8: So I'm so bad for that stuff.

1037
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 4: But I always wondered moms and dads ever mistaken.

1038
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 6: I can't say it's happened yet, Like I think it's

1039
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 6: I think it's like science or something.

1040
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 1: It's just a good parent.

1041
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 2: I don't know what any of them look like.

1042
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 6: Yeah I do.

1043
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: I have to say like, well.

1044
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 3: Done, thank you surviving Yeah twins, because my god, I've

1045
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 3: been at breaking point seventy.

1046
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 1: With one newborn.

1047
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 2: He's about to go through it.

1048
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 6: Again, you know, But I feel like what you're going

1049
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 6: through like a different ages. I feel like that's hard

1050
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 6: of what you guys do them while I I do because,

1051
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 6: like I said, mine on the same nap schedule and

1052
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 6: stuff your kids of all different ages. It's like you're

1053
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 6: going through three different days in the one day he's about.

1054
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 4: To because I'm too and done. Matt's gone for a third,

1055
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 4: which is a great girl dad. He's having another girl

1056
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 4: at work, perf and this is the boost that I needed.

1057
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 4: I'm like, if taken to it, yes.

1058
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's just the Godfather, you'd be fine.

1059
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 3: I do want to ask one last question before we go.

1060
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 3: When the kids are all grown up and if the

1061
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 3: time comes that they are no longer living at home,

1062
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 3: what is the one thing you would want them to

1063
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 3: remember about the house they grew up in.

1064
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 6: I think that it was just a very supportive and

1065
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 6: loving home and that like pretty much do whatever they

1066
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 6: want within reason. And I hope they just remember like

1067
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 6: how much fun we had, and I hope they remember

1068
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 6: like how in love their father was with them as well,

1069
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 6: like the way he's another girl dad obviously, and the

1070
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 6: way he looks at those girls, it's he was born

1071
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 6: to be a girl dad. He dopes over them.

1072
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I feel like he needed them to bring

1073
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 7: out that softer side.

1074
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 6: So I hope. I hope they remember that, and I

1075
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 6: hope they'll definitely remember me as bad cop.

1076
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: But that's fine.

1077
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 6: I'll pop back and just how hard their dad as

1078
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 6: well worked for them to have a good roof over

1079
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 6: their head. One thing that I'm very fortunate is like

1080
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 6: my maternity leave is pretty much up this month, so

1081
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 6: if we were still in New Zealand, I'd be going

1082
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 6: back to work. But now that we're in Australia, I

1083
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 6: haven and started applying for dogs.

1084
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 7: I'm like, smuscle that you got this.

1085
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:55,919
Speaker 6: Remember that's the deal.

1086
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 7: So yeah, very fortunate that he's able to do that.

1087
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 6: So I can be at home with them for as

1088
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 6: long as I can, and I hope they remember that

1089
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 6: we were just always there for them.

1090
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1091
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it, Taylor. It has been a pleasure.

1092
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 3: Thanks guys, sorry again to make you You've been here

1093
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 3: for five hours now.

1094
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 7: Oh my god, it's like keep for me.

1095
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 6: This is much.

1096
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 7: Thank you so much, Thanks guys.

1097
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: Matt. That was Turbo.

1098
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 4: She has a lot to say, but she is very

1099
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 4: funny and delightful.

1100
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: I will say she's married bro.

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Speaker 2: I know that, I know, and he is much bigger

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Speaker 2: than me.

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Speaker 1: How big is he?

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Speaker 2: With six' three something like.

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Speaker 3: That he's like a gentle. Giant i'm sure he'd be

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Speaker 3: lovely to us if we met.

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Speaker 2: HIM i don't want to find.

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Speaker 3: OUT a big shout out To taylor for jumping on our.

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Speaker 3: Podcast if you would like some more Of taylor and

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Speaker 3: maybe some more of her husband that happens. Handsome they

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Speaker 3: have a podcast called The Montoya, podcast which is hilarious if.

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Speaker 4: You've enjoyed this episode of ours, though which is also. Hilarious,

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Speaker 4: also don't leave us for, her please, subscribe send it

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Speaker 4: to a, friends leave a review five.

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Speaker 2: Stars we'd love, that and where else can they find?

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Speaker 1: Us Matt, well just quickly on those. Reviews you know.

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Speaker 3: WHY i put forward a request to try and get

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Speaker 3: the reviews to one.

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Speaker 1: THOUSAND i think we're seven hundred and fifty.

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Speaker 3: ONE, Whoa, OKAY i want to get to one thousand

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Speaker 1: Year is it?

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Speaker 3: Possible, Potentially, matthew anything is, possible but it's not.

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Speaker 1: Possible without your.

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Speaker 3: Help, yes you you, there you there? Listening so, yeah

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Speaker 3: if you haven't left a review PLEASE i would love.

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Speaker 3: It ash would love it as. Well it just reminded

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Speaker 3: me Of.

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Speaker 2: Shrek you, there. Olga, yeah have you done a social plug?

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Speaker 5: Again?

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Speaker 2: No, yeah you can find us on social media Where.

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Speaker 3: Matt Two Doting dads On, instagram on, TikTok Also. Facebook

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Speaker 3: there was a group there bursting at the scenes with three,

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Speaker 3: thousand five hundred followers and also full, episodes.

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Speaker 1: Not these Ones. Wednesdays, yeah very.

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Speaker 3: Confusing oh, god just a regular episode and if you're,

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Speaker 3: more you gotta pay for.

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Speaker 2: It but not, really it's. Free it's all.

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Speaker 1: Free it's all, free, free it's all.

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Speaker 4: Free just to be, clear everything we do is free

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Speaker 4: and land at some, point at some point we're gonna

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Speaker 4: make a pay for.

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Speaker 6: It but.

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Speaker 1: Bo see you.

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Speaker 3: Guys next week's.

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Speaker 2: Circling how do we get out of?

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Speaker 3: This Two Doting dads podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of

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Speaker 3: country Throughout australia and the connections to, land see and.

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Speaker 4: Community we pay our respects to their elders past and

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Speaker 4: present and extend that respect to All aboriginal And Torrestraight.

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Speaker 4: Island the peoples, today