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Speaker 1: Well, it is that time of year again when all

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Speaker 1: to make your journey back to school a whole lot easier.

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Speaker 1: So we have rated our top five snacks to make

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Speaker 1: packing school lunches a whole lot easier. Hi, I'm Susie

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Speaker 1: Burrow and I'm Leanne Ward, and together we bring you

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Speaker 1: The Nutrition Couch, the weekly podcast that keeps you up

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Speaker 1: to date on everything we need to know in the

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Speaker 1: world of nutrition, as well as all things back to school.

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Speaker 1: You may have heard a lot of mutterings lately about

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Speaker 1: seed oil, so today we're going to take a closer

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Speaker 1: look at the science and discuss if they are really

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Speaker 1: that bad for you. We have found a healthy lunchbox

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Speaker 1: and our listener question is all about resistance training in

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Speaker 1: hairy menopause. So launching into today's podcast, I've got a

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Speaker 1: very very sad Leanne Ward looking back at me.

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Speaker 2: Very glum Leanne, what's happened to you this week?

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Speaker 3: In the gym, I've done my back and one of

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Speaker 3: my clients is like, oh no, what did you do.

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Speaker 3: She's like, was it deadlift? I'm like, no, that's the

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Speaker 3: worst thing. I didn't even pick up a damn weight, Susie.

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Speaker 3: So I've like set up my ideas. I'm good to go.

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Speaker 3: It's the first exercise of my session. I've bent down,

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Speaker 3: the waiter, and I've just like tweaked something in my

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Speaker 3: my god, I've done my back. I can't get up.

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Speaker 3: He's like come over and like kind of pulled me up,

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Speaker 3: and I've like hobbled over to the wall. So annoyed,

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Speaker 3: I didn't even do anything. So I went to physio

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Speaker 3: if I like bend back, it really hurts. So she

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Speaker 3: just said you need to, you know, have a good

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Speaker 3: kids and not easier said then done, thanks very much,

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Speaker 3: but she said I'd be out of training for three

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Speaker 2: I'm devastated.

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Speaker 3: I was just starting to feel really good and strong,

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Speaker 3: and she said, it's just one of those freak things

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Speaker 3: they'll tweak their back. It's just one of those free things.

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Speaker 3: You don't do anything wrong. But I'm like, oh, just well,

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Speaker 3: people who live in chronic pain, it's awful. I feel

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Speaker 3: don't even think about when you do day to day

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Speaker 3: when you've got back pain, and then you just realize

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Speaker 3: I just like bending down, pick up the kids, drink

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Speaker 3: my goodness, it's so much pain. So I really yeah,

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Speaker 3: those people who live with chronic chronic pain, it's awful.

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Speaker 1: I think after you've had kids, I just noticed your

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Speaker 1: ligaments and joints they're just not what they were. And

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Speaker 1: It's not uncommon with you ever, you know, ankle twists

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Speaker 2: So I am doing the best that I can. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure David'll be doing being your lucky. Are you recover

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Speaker 2: You're in a young.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm bounce back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're We're right.

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Speaker 1: We'll get you posted on Leanne's back recovery, and she

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you do like to train or move.

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Speaker 1: But it is back to school time and leanne if

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Speaker 1: school lunches. Now in the past on the Nutrition Couch

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Speaker 2: And then I thought, rather than go through the good old.

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Speaker 1: school lunch boxes and.

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Speaker 1: I thought, what it would be fun to talk about

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Speaker 1: on average, astrained kids have at least three package snacks

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Speaker 1: The Messy Monkeys are quite strong nutritionally, they're about eighty

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Speaker 1: And in fact, when Leanna and I ran an s

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Speaker 1: So I think they reach out for about five dollars

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Speaker 3: I think most of the kids yogurt. I don't know

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Speaker 3: of the kids low sugar yogurts are always really good.

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Speaker 3: to those mini rice cakes with the dark chocolate on them.

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Speaker 1: an individual. The key thing you can ask yourself as

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Speaker 1: am I getting enough oily fish? Am I eating nuts

432
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Speaker 1: and seeds most days to get the nutritional benefits? Am

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Speaker 1: I using the best quality oil I can afford at home?

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Speaker 1: And there's a couple of great options, whether it's Extraversion

435
00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,520
Speaker 1: Australia olive oil, or whether it's an avocado oil that's

436
00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,679
Speaker 1: been formulated for frying. That's the best thing you can

437
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Speaker 1: ask yourself. Don't even worry about this heightened idea of

438
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Speaker 1: seed oils because it's actually not relevant to an individual.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that.

440
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Speaker 3: I guess we have social media to blame. It's so

441
00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,600
Speaker 3: great for so many wonderful reasons, but it's also not

442
00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,479
Speaker 3: so great for so many more because there are so

443
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Speaker 3: many what should we call them self appointed health influencers

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Speaker 3: out there.

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Speaker 1: Everyone wants to be a dietitian, don't they an not

446
00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:41,600
Speaker 1: even a diety, do know?

447
00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,560
Speaker 2: They rag on dietitians. I don't want to be dieticians.

448
00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,280
Speaker 3: They just want to be the wellness influencer who's going

449
00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,760
Speaker 3: to change the world. And it's unfortunately because these seed

450
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,840
Speaker 3: oil type videos where people are just completely you know,

451
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Speaker 3: ranting on seed oils. They're so bad that the direct

452
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,200
Speaker 3: cause of inflammation you should not. So you posted like

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Speaker 3: a dip choli on Facebook the other day roll past

454
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Speaker 3: and I was thinking, oh, they're good dips, and I

455
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,040
Speaker 3: quickly clicked on the comments, and a couple of people

456
00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:05,880
Speaker 3: ripped you because they're like, oh, they've got seed oils,

457
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,520
Speaker 3: and then you shouldn't promote that when you can't do

458
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,320
Speaker 3: that one and people are just have an unhealthy obsession

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Speaker 3: with seed oils almost because as you said, they don't

460
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Speaker 3: really understand how the nutritional science works because inflammation at

461
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Speaker 3: its core or as a standalone thing, is not necessarily bad.

462
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Speaker 3: If you go and do a really hard workout, your

463
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Speaker 3: body has a level of inflammation in it. I myself

464
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Speaker 3: with a bad bag right now, I've pricked my bag.

465
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Speaker 3: Have a level of inflammation in my body. When you

466
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Speaker 3: get up the last night, man, when you did back

467
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Speaker 3: it or.

468
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Speaker 2: No, I should be I should be shutting some extraversion.

469
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Speaker 1: Only you also a massive store of my Instagram, Like,

470
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Speaker 1: I haven't even seen those comments.

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Speaker 3: This is your Facebook. No, I don't do Instagram much.

472
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Speaker 3: It's funny because I'm bigger on Instagram. But I was

473
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Speaker 3: on face stole stalker much scrolling marketplace anyway. I was

474
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Speaker 3: just I was curious about the comments because I was like, oh,

475
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Speaker 3: dips interesting and of course the negative seed oil stuff. Anyway,

476
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Speaker 3: where I was going with that before I was really interrupted. No,

477
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Speaker 3: but if you get even something simple like a paper cup, again,

478
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 3: your body has a level of inflammation. So inflammation at

479
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Speaker 3: its core is not as bad as what people you

480
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,360
Speaker 3: know lead you to believe. It's when that inflammation is chronic,

481
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 3: it's long term, it's coming from a poor quality diet,

482
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 3: it's coming from smoking, inactivity. It's coming from basically lifestyle choices, which, yes,

483
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Speaker 3: nutrition can influence. That's when inflammation, when it's chronic, it's

484
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Speaker 3: long term, it's in the wrong places, that's where it

485
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Speaker 3: can become an issue. But seed oils as a standalone thing,

486
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Speaker 3: like you said, do not cause inflammation. There's been over

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Speaker 3: fifteen randomized control trials. This is like the gold standard

488
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Speaker 3: when it comes to nutrition. It's not a standalone trial,

489
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Speaker 3: and a lot of these quote unquote health influencers out there,

490
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Speaker 3: they don't know how to interpret the nutrition site, so

491
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Speaker 3: they take a single standalone study which is not that robust,

492
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Speaker 3: and now pull it apart to basically make it fit

493
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Speaker 3: their criteria that they want to make it. Say that, okay,

494
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 3: see it, oils are bad when you look at the

495
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Speaker 3: bulk of the research, like fifteen standalone random control trials

496
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Speaker 3: do not show that these oils, things like sappalier oil,

497
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Speaker 3: rape seed oil, these types of oils are not actually

498
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Speaker 3: they do not promote inflammation, and some of these studies

499
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Speaker 3: even show that those oils stand alone actually lower inflammation. So,

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Speaker 3: as you said, it's more the fact that we have

501
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Speaker 3: inactive lifestyles that we're doing poor lifestyle choices, like we're smoking,

502
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 3: we're not sleeping enough, we're doing far too much of

503
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Speaker 3: that high intensity exercise that's not giving our bodies a break,

504
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 3: or we're just not doing any exercise we're on the

505
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Speaker 3: far end of either side of the spectrum. Or our

506
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Speaker 3: nutritional quality isn't good enough. You know, we're skipping breakfast,

507
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Speaker 3: we're having coffee, we're having a pastry, We're having far

508
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 3: too much our coal in our diet, and we're eating

509
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 3: out far too much. These the things lifestyle and nutrition

510
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Speaker 3: that are going to drive inflammation, not the type of

511
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Speaker 3: oil that you cook your brocolian or that you you know,

512
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Speaker 3: you might fry your chicken in. So I get it

513
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Speaker 3: all the time from my clients and I say, look,

514
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Speaker 3: I'm like you. I have a couple of oils in

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Speaker 3: my kitchen. I have Extraversion olive oil. I have some

516
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Speaker 3: avocata oil. I have some sesme oil. You know Malaysian background,

517
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Speaker 3: I do, you know, cook some stuff fries always use

518
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Speaker 3: sesme oil. And then I also have a bit of

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Speaker 3: coconut oil in my pantry. If I'm doing a form

520
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Speaker 3: of baking that needs it, you know, to set or something,

521
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Speaker 3: then I might use it, or if I'm doing a

522
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Speaker 3: curry where I've got a little bit of coconut milk

523
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Speaker 3: in there, i might use a little bit of coconut

524
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Speaker 3: oil just for kind of that flavor profile. That's it.

525
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Speaker 3: I'm not doing it because I think that it's necessarily

526
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Speaker 3: better or more helpful. I'm just kind of doing it

527
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Speaker 3: for the flavor profile. So I'm like you, I don't

528
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Speaker 3: have any in my kitchen, but it's not to say

529
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Speaker 3: that I completely vilify any food that has it. So

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Speaker 3: I don't really think it's the oil that we're pulling

531
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Speaker 3: out of our cupboard that's the issue. I think it's

532
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Speaker 3: the level of ultra processed foods that people are consuming.

533
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Speaker 3: And like you said, I've seen lunchboxes where there are

534
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Speaker 3: three four five package snacks in there for children, there's

535
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 3: not one food or vegetable in there, and there's white

536
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Speaker 3: bread with some form of like honey or jam on it.

537
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Speaker 3: So I think it's what we're consuming on a regular basis.

538
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Speaker 3: I eat packet foods, ultra processed foods, take away alcohol.

539
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Speaker 3: That's our biggest issue here, not poor standalone seed oil.

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00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: No, And I think it's just good to be addressing

541
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Speaker 1: something that's in the mainstream media at the moment. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: the best thing you can do when it comes to

543
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Speaker 1: oil balance is if you're buying packaged food, if you

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Speaker 1: see vegetable oil on the label, particularly at the top.

545
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Speaker 1: Like I'm not talking a little bit in processing, because

546
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Speaker 1: that's what will happen, Like I'm just thinking of where

547
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Speaker 1: you would see that, Like you might buy a pre

548
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: crumb sit so there'll be a bit of it in

549
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Speaker 1: there because they need some. I'm talking about where it's

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Speaker 1: the first or second ingredient on the list, you know,

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Speaker 1: I put it back like this is where it's not good.

552
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Speaker 1: And in comment with the dips, it's actually interesting because

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Speaker 1: a lot of dip that I would say is not

554
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Speaker 1: great has just a base of either cream, cheese, cream,

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Speaker 1: or oil, and that will always be again, just a

556
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Speaker 1: vegetable oil. But I'm interested in those comments on my

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Speaker 1: page now that you've drawn my attention to it, because

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Speaker 1: I would have picked dips that weren't as high in that.

559
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: So that also just shows that people are a bit

560
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Speaker 1: harsh because I purposely go through now and now I'm

561
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Speaker 1: going to double check my post, but I would have

562
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Speaker 1: picked the dips that had a much higher proportion of

563
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: you know, vegetable chiky on purpose for that exact reason,

564
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Speaker 1: or in some dips now they'll specify they're made with

565
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Speaker 1: olive oil. So again that can be a bit misinformed.

566
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Speaker 1: I'm going to have to go back now and refute

567
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Speaker 1: those comments on my Facebook. So you've just like distracted

568
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Speaker 1: me the whole nightly, and so just keep to your

569
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Speaker 1: own Facebook a right, don't go on to mind. I'm

570
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Speaker 1: going to have to block our people. She's a stalker

571
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 1: all right now, like she's smiling in her back pain.

572
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Speaker 1: So the product that we found and I found this

573
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Speaker 1: because I'm started to shoot some lunchboxes actually and I

574
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Speaker 1: thought of these are actually quite good little snack balls,

575
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Speaker 1: the ones I found with the Macro Mighty bytes cheeky

576
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Speaker 1: cocoa balls. So these are a Woolies product in the

577
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Speaker 1: health food section and often lean when we buy those

578
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Speaker 1: kind of snack bites and things. They're really really high

579
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Speaker 1: in carbohydrate because they're made with dates. But when I

580
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Speaker 1: had to look at these, I was pleasantly surprised at

581
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Speaker 1: one the nutritional ingredient list and then the nutritional So

582
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Speaker 1: they come in little packets. I think there's two or

583
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Speaker 1: three balls in the pack so like if you bought those,

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Speaker 1: you tap them for a week. They're not hiddously expensive either.

585
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,959
Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly, but I think they were four

586
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: or five dollars, so they won't like ten dollars or anything.

587
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: And all that's in them lean is dates are coconut

588
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,959
Speaker 1: four percent cocoa, some pea protein, crisps, linseed pea protein,

589
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 1: powdered chia, and natural flavors. So in a little packet

590
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: you get two hundred and sixty six kilo jewels, which

591
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: is just about sixty calories, not much, and then one

592
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: point six grams of protein. You're getting some fat where

593
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: is that coming from from the coconut, but not too bad.

594
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: Less than ten grams of sugars perserve, which may seem high,

595
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: but keep in mind that's not any added sugar. That's

596
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Speaker 1: just what's naturally occurring from the dates and a little

597
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Speaker 1: bit of dietary fiber. And I thought, if your kids

598
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Speaker 1: like them as a little chocolate snack ball, I thought

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Speaker 1: they were pretty good, and I'll give my boys a

600
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Speaker 1: goal on them, and see they don't love that kind

601
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Speaker 1: of snacky stuff. But I thought, if your kids like them,

602
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: they're actually pretty good. I quite like them. Have you

603
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Speaker 1: tried them with your girls?

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Speaker 3: I've never seen them, man, Yeah, they knew I think, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think they are. Because my al they's not available.

606
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 3: This is out of stock, so I can't even see

607
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 3: the price on them. But you're right, there's two per thing.

608
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 3: They do look quite small, and the product description says

609
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 3: perfect for little hen so they're obviously marketed at children

610
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 3: because they don't think that touched the side of an adult.

611
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 3: I know that that would not fill me up, but yeah,

612
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 3: I think for kids, the ingredient list is great and

613
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 3: one point six grams of fiber for a smaller child

614
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 3: is a good amount of fiber for a snack. So yeah,

615
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 3: I quite like them. I haven't tried them. Oh, I

616
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 3: definitely keep a lookout in my woolies. They're pretty good

617
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 3: my wool West, so they must be sort of newer

618
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: to market. Hopefully they'll start filtering through the stores. Yeah,

619
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 3: I haven't seen them before.

620
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: And I sometimes, if I'm doing lunchbox pictures, will pop

621
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: a couple in and all these people write and say

622
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 1: what are those? And often for adults, even if you've

623
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Speaker 1: got an adult lunch box and they want something sweet

624
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 1: after lunch or with afternoon tea and have that with

625
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: some nuts. That would actually be quite a good little snack.

626
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, I really thought they were quite good. So

627
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: if you do try them, let us snow and they're

628
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: another one you can add to your sort of lunch

629
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Speaker 1: box friendly snacks that are out there at the moment,

630
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: all right, And then moving.

631
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Speaker 3: On to our very last question of the podcast, it's

632
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Speaker 3: our listener question, and I think since you found this

633
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 3: one off our Instagram, so I've been hearing a lot

634
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Speaker 3: about weighted vests. Is it worth getting one for walking?

635
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 3: I've actually seen them a lot on my Instagram lately,

636
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 3: I will say on my Facebook. I think they're getting

637
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 3: very very popular, and I quite like them. Do I

638
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 3: use them myself, No, But I do think they're a

639
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 3: great way to increase the intensity of your workout because

640
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 3: walking will work until it doesn't. If that's your only

641
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 3: form of exercise, walking's great, but your body gets to

642
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 3: a point where it adapts to it and you either

643
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 3: need to do more or you need to change the

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Speaker 3: intensity of it. So using something like a weighted vest

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Speaker 3: is great. I've got a lady who walks around my

646
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Speaker 3: neighborhood and I always see it with hers on and

647
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Speaker 3: she goes pretty hardcore, like sometimes she jogs. Sometimes she's

648
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Speaker 3: like jogging with a pram. I'm like, you go, girl,

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Speaker 3: So yeah, not my thing. But I think they're a

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Speaker 3: great addition, and I think they've got to be only

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Speaker 3: going to be beneficial for your beer bones and your

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Speaker 3: muscles as well. So I think a big thumbs up

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Speaker 3: for me if you can get hands on them. I

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Speaker 3: imagine you just get them what off like Amazon or something.

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Speaker 1: Right, So the reason they go crazy, you know why

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Speaker 1: they've gone crazy because that guy Onny from US, doctor

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Speaker 1: Mary Claire harvar Oh I love, who wrote the New Menopause.

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Speaker 2: He's actually having to Australia. I saw she talks.

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Speaker 1: About them all the time, and I had to laugh,

660
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Speaker 1: right because when you see her, she's only a tiny

661
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Speaker 1: frame thing herself, but whenever she's doing her walking, she

662
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Speaker 1: is in this because she's tiny, right, she's quite a

663
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Speaker 1: live little thing. She doesn't have it doesn't look like

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Speaker 1: she got a massive amount of muscle mass. And she's

665
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Speaker 1: always wearing this weighted vest and she talks about it

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Speaker 1: on her Insta And I just laughed because like Australian

667
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Speaker 1: personal trainers, celebrities have started talking about them all the time,

668
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Speaker 1: and I know exactly where it's coming from.

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Speaker 2: I think that for.

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Speaker 1: Women who know they haven't had a long history of

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Speaker 1: weight training and who know they probably need more muscle mass,

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Speaker 1: they're a great idea. So if you're an ex athlete,

673
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Speaker 1: if you played high level support at school, you maybe

674
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Speaker 1: were a swimmer, you've got you know, a good amount

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Speaker 1: of muscle mass on you. You probably don't also need it.

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Speaker 1: Same as if you train in the gym, you probably

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Speaker 1: don't need it. But if you're a female in your forties, fifties,

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Speaker 1: or sixties, you haven't done a lot of exercise in

679
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Speaker 1: your history, you're naturally a long frame, you might be

680
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Speaker 1: more ectomorphic lately, and you know, muscle mass is not

681
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Speaker 1: on your body huge amount like a longer, leaner line frame.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, they would be worth it.

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Speaker 1: You definitely burn more calories if you're wearing one of those,

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Speaker 1: you're going to get more of a workout. So yeah, again,

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Speaker 1: I'm like you, I don't use one because I lift

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Speaker 1: at the gym more. I've got a good amount of

687
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Speaker 1: muscle mass already. Yeah, but I think for a certain

688
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Speaker 1: group they could be really efficient and I would say,

689
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Speaker 1: you just probably get them on Amazon, have a quick search.

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Speaker 1: But I just laugh because all of a sudden, all

691
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Speaker 1: these people are talking about it, and I know exactly why.

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Speaker 1: It's because she was always wearing them and talking about them.

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Speaker 3: Well. I remember listening to one of her stories a

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Speaker 3: few weeks ago and she was talking about how her

695
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Speaker 3: mum has olsteoporosis, and she's really annoyed because nobody ever

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Speaker 3: really like flagged that with her earlier, or mum didn't

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Speaker 3: really do anything to kind of prevent that because it

698
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Speaker 3: was never really talked about. So maybe that's sort of

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Speaker 3: where that's come from as well. And I think it's great.

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Speaker 3: I think empowering, you know, particularly that age group who

701
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Speaker 3: it was never really common, like you know, for our

702
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Speaker 3: parents to be in the gym training, whereas these twenty

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Speaker 3: year olds that's what they're growing up with.

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Speaker 2: Like these twenty year olds.

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Speaker 3: Know they need to be getting in the gym and

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Speaker 3: lifting some heavy stuff. We know that now we've got

707
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Speaker 3: tons of research to support that. But I've got a

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Speaker 3: lot of clients in there, you know, sixties and seventies

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Speaker 3: where it just wasn't the dune thing, and it's very

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Speaker 3: daunting and overwhelming to then get into the gym. And

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Speaker 3: you know some people have difficulties accessing the gym, So

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Speaker 3: I'm like you like a couple of small dumbbells at home.

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Speaker 3: I bought my mum two three and four kilo dumbells

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Speaker 3: and she uses them at home. But a weighted best

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Speaker 3: if you've got a good safe place to go walking,

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Speaker 3: I think is only going to be beneficial for your

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Speaker 3: bones and muscles.

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Speaker 1: True, And I've just had a look on Amazon. They

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Speaker 1: range between fifty up to one hundred dollars. You can

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Speaker 1: get different weights. You can get three five seven kilos,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that the walkers in particular who

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Speaker 1: are not naturally inclined to lift or go to the gym,

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Speaker 1: could be a great option just to give that extra

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Speaker 1: resistance training while you're working out. And yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: they're a great idea, all right, Lenne. Well, that brings

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