WEBVTT - WELCOME ABBIE CHATFIELD TO 'THE MASKED SINGER AUSTRALIA!'

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload the podcast last week that night. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris, and on this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast I go behind the scenes with the biggest players

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<v Speaker 1>casting agents, plus the talent we see on our screens.

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload reloads the shows that you're currently watching and

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<v Speaker 1>our streaming services. Today. On the podcast, I have Abby Chatfield,

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<v Speaker 1>who was excited to talk the mass Singer Australia, which

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<v Speaker 1>debuts tonight on Channel ten at seven point thirty. Abby

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<v Speaker 1>was a shock announcement alongside Melby Hughesy Chrissy Swan as

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<v Speaker 1>this really cements her as a television personality in the

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<v Speaker 1>big leagues. The panel did get a massive shake up

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<v Speaker 1>with three of the presenters exiting the show, but early

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<v Speaker 1>buzz is really positive and the launch tonight looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a tight race up against some new reality shows debuting

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time. Abby talks about the casting announcement

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<v Speaker 1>on the series, what it's like to work alongside a

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<v Speaker 1>spice girl, what she will bring to the Mask Singer Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>We also discuss her commitment to social media, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot and lots more. It really is a good

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<v Speaker 1>chat and so, without further ado, I would like to

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back Abby Chatfield to TV every loan.

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<v Speaker 2>I was really nervous in the first episode. Who is

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<v Speaker 2>behind the Mask? This isn't like Australian idol where someone's

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<v Speaker 2>heart could be completely broken.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye many, Abby, You're.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna be blown away. You're just scared of any kind

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<v Speaker 2>of backbash.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was just told us that we had a

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<v Speaker 1>Grammy Award winner. I reckon, it's you.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to have to kill Hughsey and I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Hughsey starts Sunday, August seven on ten.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what is so if this is offensive or not,

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<v Speaker 2>but I actually did get used to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Abby, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Hi? Gorgeous? Great? How are you well?

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<v Speaker 1>I was so excited for you with the announcement of

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<v Speaker 1>the Mass Singer came out. Is this job a turning

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<v Speaker 1>point for you in your career? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. I mean it's gone from I feel

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<v Speaker 2>as though obviously last year I started to do Love

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<v Speaker 2>Island after party, but that is kind of a smaller

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<v Speaker 2>after show, as fun and amazing as that was, And

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<v Speaker 2>I think I've kind of gone from being maybe the

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<v Speaker 2>girl that they grab if they need someone to go

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<v Speaker 2>on the drum or you know, Tibul j Hack or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>or if they want someone to just guest on the

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<v Speaker 2>Protector Studio ten to now being an actual panelist on

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<v Speaker 2>a TV show that is becoming a cornerstone of Australian media.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it definitely represents some sort of change

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<v Speaker 2>more mainstream media rather than eighty percent influence twenty percent mainstream.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that you're now certified talent here in

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<v Speaker 1>Australia and you also get to work along phenomenal talent.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you ever get used to sitting next to a

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<v Speaker 1>spice girl?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what is?

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<v Speaker 1>So?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if this is offensive or not, but

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<v Speaker 2>I actually did get used to it very quickly. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's because Mel is just the loveliest person, and

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<v Speaker 2>you really forget that she's a spice girl. She's a

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<v Speaker 2>person that'll, you know, tell you've got carrot in your

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<v Speaker 2>teeth or you know, as I sure you saw the

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<v Speaker 2>LOGI is her carrying my train down the red carpet

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<v Speaker 2>only an hour after meeting me, and helped me to

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<v Speaker 2>the toilet and do my zips up, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she is just amazing. I actually cried at one of

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<v Speaker 2>the reveals because that was just a big name and

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<v Speaker 2>it was so overwhelming for me. And granted we had

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<v Speaker 2>film two episodes, so I also was very tired. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, let's put it down to the celebrity. But

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<v Speaker 2>I was crying. And then I think Hughsy said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>why you know you're so overwhelmed, but you've been sit

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<v Speaker 2>next to a spice girl this whole time, And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I forgot you were a spice girl, Like

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<v Speaker 2>it just doesn't even cross your mind. I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>a testament to how lovely and just down to earth

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<v Speaker 2>and son all the English she is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I must admit I did speak to her

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<v Speaker 1>at the logis, and as soon as he starts speaking

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<v Speaker 1>to her, that sort of overwhelming feelings starts to dissipate,

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<v Speaker 1>because she is very accessible and very down to earth.

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<v Speaker 1>I am going to ask you the most obvious question,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a great way to tease your relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>the other panelists. It's kind of a childish interview question

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<v Speaker 1>of sorts, but murder Mary, kiss your co host Chrissy Swan,

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<v Speaker 1>Hughsy and Melby.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Okay, I have to marry Christy Swan. I have

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<v Speaker 2>to do it. She is beyond an angel kind even

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<v Speaker 2>explain how much I love that woman. So marry Chrissy now.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is because you know he's married. So we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to kiss mel and then we're going to have

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<v Speaker 2>to We're going to have to kill Hughsey. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so sorry, Hughsey. I love you, but I just feel

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<v Speaker 2>as though I want to push Melby and I want

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<v Speaker 2>to marry Chrissy said, so only option I do love,

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<v Speaker 2>love love.

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<v Speaker 1>Hughsey, I love Husey. It actually is so generous. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the panel had a real shake up this year. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you reach out to any of the former panelists that

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<v Speaker 1>were previously on the show. I mean, surely Jackie Henderson

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<v Speaker 1>or Danny Minogue. Did anyone give you any advice? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Jackie actually DMed me after it was announced

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<v Speaker 2>because obviously she didn't want to do it this season

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<v Speaker 2>because when some of their kids so so fair enough,

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<v Speaker 2>because it is during school holidays and radio breaks, so

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<v Speaker 2>of course you want some time. But she just wished

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<v Speaker 2>me luck and was so lovely and said, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she was soaked that I was on the panel, So

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't ask any help. I think it was because

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<v Speaker 2>I really hate like I don't listen to podcasts that

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<v Speaker 2>is similar to mine, and I don't listen to radio

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<v Speaker 2>shows really unless they're on the hit network. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to accidentally steal content or accidentally steal someone's like saying.

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<v Speaker 2>So I tried to not ask for direct advice because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm scared that I will turn into like a shittier

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<v Speaker 2>version of someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's so true though you can so easily

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<v Speaker 1>steal other people's tones and turn a phrase. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>more important than ever to have young people like yourself

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<v Speaker 1>on TV who have a relatable and huge currency with

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<v Speaker 1>younger audiences who don't watch free to wear television?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? I mean, as we know, FREDA is competing with

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<v Speaker 2>so many different streaming services now, and I think the

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<v Speaker 2>great thing about the Mask Singer is it keeps that

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<v Speaker 2>element of you have to watch the night that it's

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<v Speaker 2>on because you don't want to have any spoilers. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the whole point is spoilers like good things like The Bachelor, Right,

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<v Speaker 2>the point is the journey, you know, the point is

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<v Speaker 2>the drama, and you can kind of know who wins

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<v Speaker 2>from the start and still enjoy the whole process. But

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<v Speaker 2>on the Mask Singer, you have to watch it live

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<v Speaker 2>or than just after live to enjoy it. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think having someone like me posting about it on socials

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<v Speaker 2>and being so invested obviously and being on it reminds

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<v Speaker 2>that younger audience that there is a lot of fun

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<v Speaker 2>in live TV or in scheduled TV weekly episodes. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hoping that it will bring a younger audience I have.

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<v Speaker 2>I've gotten a lot of dms saying I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>watch it just because of you, and I'd watched it

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<v Speaker 2>before in the past, but i really can't wait to

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<v Speaker 2>drive home how fun this show is to be a

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<v Speaker 2>part of and to watch if you're really committed and

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<v Speaker 2>really concentrated. So I'm hoping that it does bring a

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<v Speaker 2>younger audience.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think that younger personalities in presenting roles are

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<v Speaker 1>really important in the protection of the Australian television industry.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we tapped into this just a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but this show to me has always been a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of silly fun, and I felt like the first series

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<v Speaker 1>with Lindsay Lohan kind of understood that brief What is

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<v Speaker 1>your take on the show previously and where it is

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<v Speaker 1>going now?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think it is at its core really

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<v Speaker 2>silly fun, and the thing I do love about it

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<v Speaker 2>is that there are no villains. There are no heartbreaks

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<v Speaker 2>really no. Of course, everyone wants to win and do well,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're all celebrities at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't like Australian idol where someone's heart could be

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<v Speaker 2>completely broken by coming second. It's all just a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of fun. So I love that about it. But I

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<v Speaker 2>also think that something that I've thought about recently is

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<v Speaker 2>how great it is to kind of bring back that

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<v Speaker 2>whole idea of I guess like socialized TV that I

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<v Speaker 2>think a lot of game shows usually have, like Family Feud,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, where there's kind of an interactive element where

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<v Speaker 2>you can sit around with your friends and have a

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<v Speaker 2>schedule each week, and you can really go in on

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<v Speaker 2>playing the game with the guessing panel, and you can

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<v Speaker 2>play family few from home, and I think it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of brings up whole like vintage idea of having games

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<v Speaker 2>night with the family and brings it into the modern era.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can also join a long on social media.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's kind of how I see the

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<v Speaker 2>Master Singer is kind of a replacement for old game mates.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's exactly what this show is. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've met so many people in the Australian television industry,

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<v Speaker 1>so many stars in the current celebrity world, so to speak,

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe your knowledge of pop culture is very right.

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<v Speaker 1>Now does that give you an upper hand?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it did because I was able to bring

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<v Speaker 2>names they had no idea who they were, like, no clok,

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<v Speaker 2>I was just in Vera Blue and names like Rule

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<v Speaker 2>came up and he's's like, hey, is that so? I

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<v Speaker 2>think that Adam elm I also really loved being able

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<v Speaker 2>to mention Australian artists like Vera on a mainstream network

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<v Speaker 2>and being encouraged to do so. You know, like there

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't any like, oh no, I want to know who

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<v Speaker 2>that is? It was. It was a nice little meshing.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it gave me a little age. But

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<v Speaker 2>I also think that with someone like Chrissy and Hughesy

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<v Speaker 2>and even male obviously being in the Australian media landscape

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<v Speaker 2>for twenty years, like Chris has been on radio since

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<v Speaker 2>I was in year two. So I think she really

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<v Speaker 2>knows everyone from you know, a random person who's had

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<v Speaker 2>a funny line on the project through to the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>stars in the world. So I think they had the

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<v Speaker 2>upper hand there. But you know what, I had passion.

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<v Speaker 2>I had passion energy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I feel almost certain of one of the

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<v Speaker 1>identities behind the mask. I won't say who, but I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, hang on a second, I know just personally

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<v Speaker 1>that Abby knows this guy. That's what was going over

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<v Speaker 1>in my head. I was like, I think this guy

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<v Speaker 1>is such and such, which is you know, obviously deleted

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<v Speaker 1>And I know Abbi Chatfield knows this person. Is there

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<v Speaker 1>someone you know that's in this series that came across

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<v Speaker 1>your mind.

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<v Speaker 2>That came across or that it was actually well, I

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to use my friendship feelings trying to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out who people were, but I don't. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>the hard thing is when you start to think it's

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<v Speaker 2>your friends, you get on a really weird rabbit hole

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<v Speaker 2>of like thinking when did I speak to them last?

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<v Speaker 2>And when you know what are they doing that? Would

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<v Speaker 2>they do this show? What would they what would they

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy about this show? You know? Should I just call them?

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't want to call them because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to ruin it. So, I mean, people's names did

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<v Speaker 2>cross my mind quite a lot, but I didn't tend

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<v Speaker 2>to go down that that that roote. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't ever go down a serious route of a friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody probably should have in hindsight.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not Matt Agnew by the way, For everyone who's listening,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's probably thinking, I'm alluding to the Bachelor that you

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<v Speaker 1>were with your bachelor.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me who you thought it was? Tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>I just felt like the rooster could be hughge Sheridan,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I and I felt like I could

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<v Speaker 1>hear it. I don't know this for sure. And I

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<v Speaker 1>also was, you know, guessing it could be Hugh Jackman

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<v Speaker 1>or it could be Dennis Walter. So I'm a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit bipolar with my selection of guesses. But I just thought,

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<v Speaker 1>does happy Chadfield know that that's her friend Hugh Sheridan,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>With the clues, actually we were told that the clue

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<v Speaker 2>packages sometimes are written for two people, where for two,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, prominent figures. Every clue could match up, so

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<v Speaker 2>you could go right down a rabbit hole and you

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<v Speaker 2>could be like, yep, every clue matches that, I'm one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent correct, and then it's revealed and you are

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<v Speaker 2>just so incredibly wrong. So it's good to have three options.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I was there for the live taping, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and you definitely bring something fresh to the show, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I kept saying afterwards as well, by the way I

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<v Speaker 1>kept to my partner Babes, with the way Abby Chatfield says, Babes,

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<v Speaker 1>like the way you say it. You know, he was

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<v Speaker 1>finding it really weird, like he was like, who are

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<v Speaker 1>you being? But I will say the thing I liked

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<v Speaker 1>about watching you was that you really hold your own

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're opinionated. You certainly don't get overshadowed by

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<v Speaker 1>the other celebrity panelists. That leaves me with the question,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think a lot of people are going to

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<v Speaker 1>ask after watching this first episode, where does your confidence

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<v Speaker 1>come from? God?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know, I think that honestly, Like

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<v Speaker 2>this is kind of a funny thing to say, but

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<v Speaker 2>I've learned since being diagnosed with ADHD, like this confidence

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<v Speaker 2>is actually just an inability to shut up. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think Melb also spoke about ADHD to me and she

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<v Speaker 2>has quite a similar thing. And everyone goes, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>should confident out there, and it's like, I just have

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<v Speaker 2>a near divergency. So then that's that's kind of part

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<v Speaker 2>of it. But on this show in particular, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that I was really nervous in the first episode, and

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<v Speaker 2>to have people like mel Christy, Chusey and Osha, We're

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<v Speaker 2>all so portive, and just the reinforcement from the producers,

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<v Speaker 2>from the panel less. I mean, you know, when I's

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<v Speaker 2>saying to you that was really funny, really well done

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<v Speaker 2>on this specific thing. I think it just gives you

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of an extra boost to feel like you

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<v Speaker 2>can you can keep going and keep saying kind of

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<v Speaker 2>what you're doing and push boundaries a bit more. And

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<v Speaker 2>Hughsey is just I know everyone likes to hang she

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<v Speaker 2>on Husy, but Hughsey is just like one of the

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<v Speaker 2>loveliest men I've ever met, and he will after every

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<v Speaker 2>segment kind of look to us and go, that was

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<v Speaker 2>really funny, guys, really well done. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like not the wad babying each other. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think we all really admire and respect each other,

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<v Speaker 2>and that comes through in us all constantly giving each

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<v Speaker 2>other positive reinforcement. And I think that's how the confidence

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<v Speaker 2>remains on that show.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been in your audience since the first episode

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<v Speaker 1>of the Bachelor, and you've really gone from strength to strength.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do want to confess something to you. I

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<v Speaker 1>once said publicly that Abby now appears to me that

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<v Speaker 1>she is sort of held captive by her social media.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not someone who who says something behind someone's back

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<v Speaker 1>and then doesn't come and say it to their face.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you feel that creating content on your platform

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<v Speaker 1>at times has been exhausting? I wanted to know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at times, do you feel like the effort that you

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<v Speaker 1>put into your post can be a little overwhelming at times?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think you are. I think that statement is correct.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's like bitch it all or kind of

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<v Speaker 2>two faced it all. I think that's a kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a correct analysis. I think it is. Really it is

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<v Speaker 2>really exhausting to do TV radio podcasting, plus keep socials up,

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<v Speaker 2>plus you know, do a pilot, and then also still

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<v Speaker 2>do interviews and things like this. And I think that

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<v Speaker 2>it is really emotionally taxing, and I do often feel,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly in the last kind of six months, really really exhausted.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not that I feel like the things that I

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<v Speaker 2>say on social It isn't like I said there and

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<v Speaker 2>I go, God, nothing to talk about? What should I

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<v Speaker 2>talk about? It's more that I feel a compulsion to

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<v Speaker 2>do it, and then I feel exhausted by response. If

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<v Speaker 2>that makes sense, I'll just say it and then I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of regret it because then the whole next twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>hours of stories is talking about that one thing, people applying,

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<v Speaker 2>correcting me, or you know, adding to the conversation. I think, God,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to have more, but I don't have the energy,

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<v Speaker 2>if that makes sense. So yeah, I think I think

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<v Speaker 2>you're correct that it does feel really Yeah. It just

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<v Speaker 2>feels almost like it's never ending, like an insatiable and

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<v Speaker 2>insatiable like want from the public or from the networks,

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<v Speaker 2>all from everyone. So I'm trying to find more of

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<v Speaker 2>a balance in actually having fun and having life experiences

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<v Speaker 2>and not saying yes to as many things so that

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<v Speaker 2>I do have that time to I don't have a

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<v Speaker 2>life that isn't recorded.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the thing though I often think about sending

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<v Speaker 1>you a message, sliding into your dams to ask you

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<v Speaker 1>are you okay? Like is this all a bit much

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<v Speaker 1>for you? But then at the same time, I'm guilty

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<v Speaker 1>of it as well. I want more from you. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>wanting more of your opinions. I can't think of the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of time that I'm sitting around with my friends

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<v Speaker 1>and I wonder, wonder what Abby Chatfield would say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>wonder what she would say if you were here in

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation. Yeah, oh love, because you have this platform

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<v Speaker 1>and you are so open and honest, and it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like no topic is too outrageous for you, if I'm honest.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that we as a society are ready

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<v Speaker 1>or may need more people talking publicly about sex, relationships,

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<v Speaker 1>political opinions?

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<v Speaker 2>Totally? And I think that people are really scared, like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of particularly influence people media are really scared

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<v Speaker 2>to have political opinions or to speak about these things publicly.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe that is where that kind of feeling of

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<v Speaker 2>like insatiable pressure comes from people, is that that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the only person that's speaking about I'm the only person,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm one of few people that are speaking about this,

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<v Speaker 2>not on the news or not on you know, in

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<v Speaker 2>a very I guess, chatty way, not in a structed

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<v Speaker 2>like news or radio breaks. So I do think more people,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly in mainstream media. I think I've had people ask me,

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<v Speaker 2>which is bizarre for a career advice, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I like, how do you do it? Like? And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I just I just say what I think about. So

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<v Speaker 2>I have prompts that are you know, news articles or

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<v Speaker 2>that are dms that I get, and I just respond

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<v Speaker 2>to that and say what I think. And I just

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<v Speaker 2>said to this person, you know, like to speak about

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<v Speaker 2>what you want to speak about you and have to

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<v Speaker 2>seek about what I talk about. But whatever you are

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<v Speaker 2>passionate about, try out try out talking about it on

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<v Speaker 2>your stories. Heyward to your friends and they were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>but no, but only you can do that, And I

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<v Speaker 2>oh no, but no, no one. You know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>the same as you. I can't do that. And it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you can. You're just scared of any kind of backbash,

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<v Speaker 2>of being any kind of controversial to maybe how you

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<v Speaker 2>perceive your audience. And I think that it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>underestimating the audience and presuming that they are really close

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<v Speaker 2>minded and conservative.

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<v Speaker 1>People are afraid of being wrong. Though, that's where you

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<v Speaker 1>step in. You know, you're Bachelorette or other people from

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<v Speaker 1>reality television, they would love to be as outspoken as

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<v Speaker 1>you on their platforms. But I think that you're not

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<v Speaker 1>afraid of being wrong, and it's very interesting to watch

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<v Speaker 1>you evolve with some of your thoughts on topics because

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<v Speaker 1>you're willing to change your mind.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I speak about so many things every day

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<v Speaker 2>in so many different ways. Yeah, I think I have

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<v Speaker 2>to be willing to be wrong and not take it

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<v Speaker 2>as a complete personal failure. I mean, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>everything you know, and I can't know everything. No one can.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. That's why I'm in your audience. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>previously celebrities have shied away from having their opinions out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you changing the way that celebrities can use their

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<v Speaker 1>social media good? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, God, that's that would be That's a very

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<v Speaker 2>big call. But I feel that maybe maybe I'm encouraging

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<v Speaker 2>people to to speak their mind on topics and kind

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<v Speaker 2>of maybe even it's just I'm encouraging people who have

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<v Speaker 2>a platform to analyze what they do think about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether I post about it. I'm helping them actually analyze it.

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<v Speaker 2>Then when they do speak about it, they have an

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<v Speaker 2>opinion rather than just sharing an infographic, which is fine,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think that the real, the real engagement, the

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<v Speaker 2>real interesting conversations come from personal opinions and how they

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<v Speaker 2>are formed.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. The last question I have for you is

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<v Speaker 1>about the Mast Singer, which obviously we are promoting who

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<v Speaker 1>has the best performance of the season. I mean, who

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<v Speaker 1>did you walk away still thinking about? Was it Dragonfly, Popcorn,

0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:33.920
<v Speaker 1>mirror Ball? Whose performance are you still thinking about?

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually one from Blowfly. It's a song that I

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<v Speaker 2>actually after they were revealed, I was like, I need

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<v Speaker 2>you to do a like a version of that or

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<v Speaker 2>at least a cover, because I need to have it

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<v Speaker 2>on Spotify. Like I thought about it. Every time I

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<v Speaker 2>think about obviously the Mask Singer, which is every day

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<v Speaker 2>at the moment, but I think about how much I

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<v Speaker 2>want to hear that performance again. How I'm so excited

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<v Speaker 2>for that episode. So Blowfly is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>The last question I'm going to ask you is something

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<v Speaker 1>that ask everyone, What is something from behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 1>that we as an audience did not see that we

0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:11.160
<v Speaker 1>won't see something of a behind the scenes secret, something

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<v Speaker 1>we would love to know from behind the scenes of

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<v Speaker 1>your time on the mast Singer Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, isn't that scandalous? But I did. When we got

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<v Speaker 2>on set, we had these really shitty water bottles, like

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<v Speaker 2>we could not suck water out of them for the

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<v Speaker 2>life of us, all also complaining about it the whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>So on the first day I placed an order for

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<v Speaker 2>everyone to have a nice little matching frank green water bottle.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you ever see our water bottles, that's why

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<v Speaker 2>they're all matching match you because I got Melby a

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<v Speaker 2>little rainbow chrome one, Husually got a black one, Chrissy

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<v Speaker 2>got one to match with me because we're just best

0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:48.119
<v Speaker 2>friends forever. And yeah, maybe that's the only really interesting

0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:51.720
<v Speaker 2>thing of the mat We're quite boringly nice, which is

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<v Speaker 2>great for us but not great for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, it's not what we've wanted. We want to

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<v Speaker 1>know that Dern is Christy swan mean, is Melby a

0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:01.159
<v Speaker 1>bitch's Husy a nightmare? But it all turns out that

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually really nice. I will say something Abby. I

0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:05.760
<v Speaker 1>was there to watch it as it was being recorded,

0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:09.560
<v Speaker 1>and the electricity behind the scenes and between you as

0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:12.439
<v Speaker 1>the panel was magic, and I think that this season

0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:15.280
<v Speaker 1>is going to do very well because of that chemistry

0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:17.200
<v Speaker 1>between the four of you. It's a good season.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it is as well. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 2>whole new I mean, obviously, Jackie, Danny and Ursula are amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I adore the more. I love watching them on The Master.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it is really different this season. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking forward to seeing it along with everyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will say, when I saw you at the

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<v Speaker 1>Logis after party, I was a little bit in my

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<v Speaker 1>head and I was thinking to myself, I had no

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<v Speaker 1>idea how charming you are as a person. You're a charmer,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know, I don't know if I thought

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<v Speaker 1>there was a perceived idea of what you were going

0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:50.520
<v Speaker 1>to be like. But you're very generous in your time

0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:54.000
<v Speaker 1>with people, and you're very thoughtful about what you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>to people.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, that's lovely to hear. That's a lovely, lovely

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to you, Ben.

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<v Speaker 1>Good luck tonight.