Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
Speaker 1: TV Reload the podcast last week that night. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris, and on this
Speaker 1: podcast I go behind the scenes with the biggest players
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Speaker 1: casting agents, plus the talent we see on our screens.
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Speaker 1: our streaming services. Today. On the podcast, I have Abby Chatfield,
Speaker 1: who was excited to talk the mass Singer Australia, which
Speaker 1: debuts tonight on Channel ten at seven point thirty. Abby
Speaker 1: was a shock announcement alongside Melby Hughesy Chrissy Swan as
Speaker 1: this really cements her as a television personality in the
Speaker 1: big leagues. The panel did get a massive shake up
Speaker 1: with three of the presenters exiting the show, but early
Speaker 1: buzz is really positive and the launch tonight looks like
Speaker 1: a tight race up against some new reality shows debuting
Speaker 1: at the same time. Abby talks about the casting announcement
Speaker 1: on the series, what it's like to work alongside a
Speaker 1: spice girl, what she will bring to the Mask Singer Australia.
Speaker 1: We also discuss her commitment to social media, which is
Speaker 1: a lot and lots more. It really is a good
Speaker 1: chat and so, without further ado, I would like to
Speaker 1: welcome back Abby Chatfield to TV every loan.
Speaker 2: I was really nervous in the first episode. Who is
Speaker 2: behind the Mask? This isn't like Australian idol where someone's
Speaker 2: heart could be completely broken.
Speaker 1: Ye many, Abby, You're.
Speaker 2: Gonna be blown away. You're just scared of any kind
Speaker 2: of backbash.
Speaker 1: And I was just told us that we had a
Speaker 1: Grammy Award winner. I reckon, it's you.
Speaker 2: We're going to have to kill Hughsey and I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: Hughsey starts Sunday, August seven on ten.
Speaker 2: You know what is so if this is offensive or not,
Speaker 2: but I actually did get used to it.
Speaker 1: Hi, Abby, how are you?
Speaker 2: Hi? Gorgeous? Great? How are you well?
Speaker 1: I was so excited for you with the announcement of
Speaker 1: the Mass Singer came out. Is this job a turning
Speaker 1: point for you in your career? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think so. I mean it's gone from I feel
Speaker 2: as though obviously last year I started to do Love
Speaker 2: Island after party, but that is kind of a smaller
Speaker 2: after show, as fun and amazing as that was, And
Speaker 2: I think I've kind of gone from being maybe the
Speaker 2: girl that they grab if they need someone to go
Speaker 2: on the drum or you know, Tibul j Hack or whatever,
Speaker 2: or if they want someone to just guest on the
Speaker 2: Protector Studio ten to now being an actual panelist on
Speaker 2: a TV show that is becoming a cornerstone of Australian media.
Speaker 2: So I think it definitely represents some sort of change
Speaker 2: more mainstream media rather than eighty percent influence twenty percent mainstream.
Speaker 1: I just think that you're now certified talent here in
Speaker 1: Australia and you also get to work along phenomenal talent.
Speaker 1: Do you ever get used to sitting next to a
Speaker 1: spice girl?
Speaker 2: You know what is?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is offensive or not, but
Speaker 2: I actually did get used to it very quickly. I
Speaker 2: think it's because Mel is just the loveliest person, and
Speaker 2: you really forget that she's a spice girl. She's a
Speaker 2: person that'll, you know, tell you've got carrot in your
Speaker 2: teeth or you know, as I sure you saw the
Speaker 2: LOGI is her carrying my train down the red carpet
Speaker 2: only an hour after meeting me, and helped me to
Speaker 2: the toilet and do my zips up, and you know,
Speaker 2: she is just amazing. I actually cried at one of
Speaker 2: the reveals because that was just a big name and
Speaker 2: it was so overwhelming for me. And granted we had
Speaker 2: film two episodes, so I also was very tired. But
Speaker 2: you know, let's put it down to the celebrity. But
Speaker 2: I was crying. And then I think Hughsy said, oh,
Speaker 2: why you know you're so overwhelmed, but you've been sit
Speaker 2: next to a spice girl this whole time, And I
Speaker 2: was like, I forgot you were a spice girl, Like
Speaker 2: it just doesn't even cross your mind. I think that's
Speaker 2: a testament to how lovely and just down to earth
Speaker 2: and son all the English she is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I must admit I did speak to her
Speaker 1: at the logis, and as soon as he starts speaking
Speaker 1: to her, that sort of overwhelming feelings starts to dissipate,
Speaker 1: because she is very accessible and very down to earth.
Speaker 1: I am going to ask you the most obvious question,
Speaker 1: which is a great way to tease your relationship with
Speaker 1: the other panelists. It's kind of a childish interview question
Speaker 1: of sorts, but murder Mary, kiss your co host Chrissy Swan,
Speaker 1: Hughsy and Melby.
Speaker 2: Now, Okay, I have to marry Christy Swan. I have
Speaker 2: to do it. She is beyond an angel kind even
Speaker 2: explain how much I love that woman. So marry Chrissy now.
Speaker 2: And this is because you know he's married. So we're
Speaker 2: going to kiss mel and then we're going to have
Speaker 2: to We're going to have to kill Hughsey. And I'm
Speaker 2: so sorry, Hughsey. I love you, but I just feel
Speaker 2: as though I want to push Melby and I want
Speaker 2: to marry Chrissy said, so only option I do love,
Speaker 2: love love.
Speaker 1: Hughsey, I love Husey. It actually is so generous. You know,
Speaker 1: the panel had a real shake up this year. Did
Speaker 1: you reach out to any of the former panelists that
Speaker 1: were previously on the show. I mean, surely Jackie Henderson
Speaker 1: or Danny Minogue. Did anyone give you any advice? Oh?
Speaker 2: I mean Jackie actually DMed me after it was announced
Speaker 2: because obviously she didn't want to do it this season
Speaker 2: because when some of their kids so so fair enough,
Speaker 2: because it is during school holidays and radio breaks, so
Speaker 2: of course you want some time. But she just wished
Speaker 2: me luck and was so lovely and said, you know,
Speaker 2: she was soaked that I was on the panel, So
Speaker 2: I didn't ask any help. I think it was because
Speaker 2: I really hate like I don't listen to podcasts that
Speaker 2: is similar to mine, and I don't listen to radio
Speaker 2: shows really unless they're on the hit network. I don't
Speaker 2: want to accidentally steal content or accidentally steal someone's like saying.
Speaker 2: So I tried to not ask for direct advice because
Speaker 2: I'm scared that I will turn into like a shittier
Speaker 2: version of someone else.
Speaker 1: You know, it's so true though you can so easily
Speaker 1: steal other people's tones and turn a phrase. Is it
Speaker 1: more important than ever to have young people like yourself
Speaker 1: on TV who have a relatable and huge currency with
Speaker 1: younger audiences who don't watch free to wear television?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? I mean, as we know, FREDA is competing with
Speaker 2: so many different streaming services now, and I think the
Speaker 2: great thing about the Mask Singer is it keeps that
Speaker 2: element of you have to watch the night that it's
Speaker 2: on because you don't want to have any spoilers. It's
Speaker 2: the whole point is spoilers like good things like The Bachelor, Right,
Speaker 2: the point is the journey, you know, the point is
Speaker 2: the drama, and you can kind of know who wins
Speaker 2: from the start and still enjoy the whole process. But
Speaker 2: on the Mask Singer, you have to watch it live
Speaker 2: or than just after live to enjoy it. So I
Speaker 2: think having someone like me posting about it on socials
Speaker 2: and being so invested obviously and being on it reminds
Speaker 2: that younger audience that there is a lot of fun
Speaker 2: in live TV or in scheduled TV weekly episodes. So
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that it will bring a younger audience I have.
Speaker 2: I've gotten a lot of dms saying I'm going to
Speaker 2: watch it just because of you, and I'd watched it
Speaker 2: before in the past, but i really can't wait to
Speaker 2: drive home how fun this show is to be a
Speaker 2: part of and to watch if you're really committed and
Speaker 2: really concentrated. So I'm hoping that it does bring a
Speaker 2: younger audience.
Speaker 1: I actually think that younger personalities in presenting roles are
Speaker 1: really important in the protection of the Australian television industry.
Speaker 1: You know, we tapped into this just a little bit,
Speaker 1: but this show to me has always been a bit
Speaker 1: of silly fun, and I felt like the first series
Speaker 1: with Lindsay Lohan kind of understood that brief What is
Speaker 1: your take on the show previously and where it is
Speaker 1: going now?
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it is at its core really
Speaker 2: silly fun, and the thing I do love about it
Speaker 2: is that there are no villains. There are no heartbreaks
Speaker 2: really no. Of course, everyone wants to win and do well,
Speaker 2: but they're all celebrities at the end of the day.
Speaker 2: This isn't like Australian idol where someone's heart could be
Speaker 2: completely broken by coming second. It's all just a lot
Speaker 2: of fun. So I love that about it. But I
Speaker 2: also think that something that I've thought about recently is
Speaker 2: how great it is to kind of bring back that
Speaker 2: whole idea of I guess like socialized TV that I
Speaker 2: think a lot of game shows usually have, like Family Feud,
Speaker 2: for example, where there's kind of an interactive element where
Speaker 2: you can sit around with your friends and have a
Speaker 2: schedule each week, and you can really go in on
Speaker 2: playing the game with the guessing panel, and you can
Speaker 2: play family few from home, and I think it kind
Speaker 2: of brings up whole like vintage idea of having games
Speaker 2: night with the family and brings it into the modern era.
Speaker 2: And you can also join a long on social media.
Speaker 2: So I think that's kind of how I see the
Speaker 2: Master Singer is kind of a replacement for old game mates.
Speaker 1: I think that's exactly what this show is. And you know,
Speaker 1: you've met so many people in the Australian television industry,
Speaker 1: so many stars in the current celebrity world, so to speak,
Speaker 1: and I believe your knowledge of pop culture is very right.
Speaker 1: Now does that give you an upper hand?
Speaker 2: I think it did because I was able to bring
Speaker 2: names they had no idea who they were, like, no clok,
Speaker 2: I was just in Vera Blue and names like Rule
Speaker 2: came up and he's's like, hey, is that so? I
Speaker 2: think that Adam elm I also really loved being able
Speaker 2: to mention Australian artists like Vera on a mainstream network
Speaker 2: and being encouraged to do so. You know, like there
Speaker 2: wasn't any like, oh no, I want to know who
Speaker 2: that is? It was. It was a nice little meshing.
Speaker 2: But I think it gave me a little age. But
Speaker 2: I also think that with someone like Chrissy and Hughesy
Speaker 2: and even male obviously being in the Australian media landscape
Speaker 2: for twenty years, like Chris has been on radio since
Speaker 2: I was in year two. So I think she really
Speaker 2: knows everyone from you know, a random person who's had
Speaker 2: a funny line on the project through to the biggest
Speaker 2: stars in the world. So I think they had the
Speaker 2: upper hand there. But you know what, I had passion.
Speaker 2: I had passion energy.
Speaker 1: You know, I feel almost certain of one of the
Speaker 1: identities behind the mask. I won't say who, but I
Speaker 1: was like, hang on a second, I know just personally
Speaker 1: that Abby knows this guy. That's what was going over
Speaker 1: in my head. I was like, I think this guy
Speaker 1: is such and such, which is you know, obviously deleted
Speaker 1: And I know Abbi Chatfield knows this person. Is there
Speaker 1: someone you know that's in this series that came across
Speaker 1: your mind.
Speaker 2: That came across or that it was actually well, I
Speaker 2: was trying to use my friendship feelings trying to figure
Speaker 2: out who people were, but I don't. I think that
Speaker 2: the hard thing is when you start to think it's
Speaker 2: your friends, you get on a really weird rabbit hole
Speaker 2: of like thinking when did I speak to them last?
Speaker 2: And when you know what are they doing that? Would
Speaker 2: they do this show? What would they what would they
Speaker 2: enjoy about this show? You know? Should I just call them?
Speaker 2: And I don't want to call them because I don't
Speaker 2: want to ruin it. So, I mean, people's names did
Speaker 2: cross my mind quite a lot, but I didn't tend
Speaker 2: to go down that that that roote. I feel like
Speaker 2: I didn't ever go down a serious route of a friend.
Speaker 2: Nobody probably should have in hindsight.
Speaker 1: It's not Matt Agnew by the way, For everyone who's listening,
Speaker 1: everyone's probably thinking, I'm alluding to the Bachelor that you
Speaker 1: were with your bachelor.
Speaker 2: Tell me who you thought it was? Tell me.
Speaker 1: I just felt like the rooster could be hughge Sheridan,
Speaker 1: you know, and I and I felt like I could
Speaker 1: hear it. I don't know this for sure. And I
Speaker 1: also was, you know, guessing it could be Hugh Jackman
Speaker 1: or it could be Dennis Walter. So I'm a little
Speaker 1: bit bipolar with my selection of guesses. But I just thought,
Speaker 1: does happy Chadfield know that that's her friend Hugh Sheridan,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: With the clues, actually we were told that the clue
Speaker 2: packages sometimes are written for two people, where for two,
Speaker 2: you know, prominent figures. Every clue could match up, so
Speaker 2: you could go right down a rabbit hole and you
Speaker 2: could be like, yep, every clue matches that, I'm one
Speaker 2: hundred percent correct, and then it's revealed and you are
Speaker 2: just so incredibly wrong. So it's good to have three options.
Speaker 1: Well, I was there for the live taping, as you know,
Speaker 1: and you definitely bring something fresh to the show, you know,
Speaker 1: I kept saying afterwards as well, by the way I
Speaker 1: kept to my partner Babes, with the way Abby Chatfield says, Babes,
Speaker 1: like the way you say it. You know, he was
Speaker 1: finding it really weird, like he was like, who are
Speaker 1: you being? But I will say the thing I liked
Speaker 1: about watching you was that you really hold your own
Speaker 1: you know, you're opinionated. You certainly don't get overshadowed by
Speaker 1: the other celebrity panelists. That leaves me with the question,
Speaker 1: which I think a lot of people are going to
Speaker 1: ask after watching this first episode, where does your confidence
Speaker 1: come from? God?
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, I think that honestly, Like
Speaker 2: this is kind of a funny thing to say, but
Speaker 2: I've learned since being diagnosed with ADHD, like this confidence
Speaker 2: is actually just an inability to shut up. So I
Speaker 2: think Melb also spoke about ADHD to me and she
Speaker 2: has quite a similar thing. And everyone goes, well, I
Speaker 2: should confident out there, and it's like, I just have
Speaker 2: a near divergency. So then that's that's kind of part
Speaker 2: of it. But on this show in particular, I think
Speaker 2: that I was really nervous in the first episode, and
Speaker 2: to have people like mel Christy, Chusey and Osha, We're
Speaker 2: all so portive, and just the reinforcement from the producers,
Speaker 2: from the panel less. I mean, you know, when I's
Speaker 2: saying to you that was really funny, really well done
Speaker 2: on this specific thing. I think it just gives you
Speaker 2: a bit of an extra boost to feel like you
Speaker 2: can you can keep going and keep saying kind of
Speaker 2: what you're doing and push boundaries a bit more. And
Speaker 2: Hughsey is just I know everyone likes to hang she
Speaker 2: on Husy, but Hughsey is just like one of the
Speaker 2: loveliest men I've ever met, and he will after every
Speaker 2: segment kind of look to us and go, that was
Speaker 2: really funny, guys, really well done. So I think it's
Speaker 2: kind of like not the wad babying each other. But
Speaker 2: I think we all really admire and respect each other,
Speaker 2: and that comes through in us all constantly giving each
Speaker 2: other positive reinforcement. And I think that's how the confidence
Speaker 2: remains on that show.
Speaker 1: I have been in your audience since the first episode
Speaker 1: of the Bachelor, and you've really gone from strength to strength.
Speaker 1: But I do want to confess something to you. I
Speaker 1: once said publicly that Abby now appears to me that
Speaker 1: she is sort of held captive by her social media.
Speaker 1: I'm not someone who who says something behind someone's back
Speaker 1: and then doesn't come and say it to their face.
Speaker 1: But do you feel that creating content on your platform
Speaker 1: at times has been exhausting? I wanted to know, you know,
Speaker 1: at times, do you feel like the effort that you
Speaker 1: put into your post can be a little overwhelming at times?
Speaker 2: No, I think you are. I think that statement is correct.
Speaker 2: I think it's like bitch it all or kind of
Speaker 2: two faced it all. I think that's a kind of
Speaker 2: a correct analysis. I think it is. Really it is
Speaker 2: really exhausting to do TV radio podcasting, plus keep socials up,
Speaker 2: plus you know, do a pilot, and then also still
Speaker 2: do interviews and things like this. And I think that
Speaker 2: it is really emotionally taxing, and I do often feel,
Speaker 2: particularly in the last kind of six months, really really exhausted.
Speaker 2: It's not that I feel like the things that I
Speaker 2: say on social It isn't like I said there and
Speaker 2: I go, God, nothing to talk about? What should I
Speaker 2: talk about? It's more that I feel a compulsion to
Speaker 2: do it, and then I feel exhausted by response. If
Speaker 2: that makes sense, I'll just say it and then I
Speaker 2: kind of regret it because then the whole next twenty four
Speaker 2: hours of stories is talking about that one thing, people applying,
Speaker 2: correcting me, or you know, adding to the conversation. I think, God,
Speaker 2: I want to have more, but I don't have the energy,
Speaker 2: if that makes sense. So yeah, I think I think
Speaker 2: you're correct that it does feel really Yeah. It just
Speaker 2: feels almost like it's never ending, like an insatiable and
Speaker 2: insatiable like want from the public or from the networks,
Speaker 2: all from everyone. So I'm trying to find more of
Speaker 2: a balance in actually having fun and having life experiences
Speaker 2: and not saying yes to as many things so that
Speaker 2: I do have that time to I don't have a
Speaker 2: life that isn't recorded.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing though I often think about sending
Speaker 1: you a message, sliding into your dams to ask you
Speaker 1: are you okay? Like is this all a bit much
Speaker 1: for you? But then at the same time, I'm guilty
Speaker 1: of it as well. I want more from you. I'm
Speaker 1: wanting more of your opinions. I can't think of the
Speaker 1: amount of time that I'm sitting around with my friends
Speaker 1: and I wonder, wonder what Abby Chatfield would say, you know,
Speaker 1: wonder what she would say if you were here in
Speaker 1: the conversation. Yeah, oh love, because you have this platform
Speaker 1: and you are so open and honest, and it feels
Speaker 1: like no topic is too outrageous for you, if I'm honest.
Speaker 1: Do you think that we as a society are ready
Speaker 1: or may need more people talking publicly about sex, relationships,
Speaker 1: political opinions?
Speaker 2: Totally? And I think that people are really scared, like
Speaker 2: a lot of particularly influence people media are really scared
Speaker 2: to have political opinions or to speak about these things publicly.
Speaker 2: And maybe that is where that kind of feeling of
Speaker 2: like insatiable pressure comes from people, is that that I'm
Speaker 2: the only person that's speaking about I'm the only person,
Speaker 2: but I'm one of few people that are speaking about this,
Speaker 2: not on the news or not on you know, in
Speaker 2: a very I guess, chatty way, not in a structed
Speaker 2: like news or radio breaks. So I do think more people,
Speaker 2: particularly in mainstream media. I think I've had people ask me,
Speaker 2: which is bizarre for a career advice, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I like, how do you do it? Like? And I'm like,
Speaker 2: I just I just say what I think about. So
Speaker 2: I have prompts that are you know, news articles or
Speaker 2: that are dms that I get, and I just respond
Speaker 2: to that and say what I think. And I just
Speaker 2: said to this person, you know, like to speak about
Speaker 2: what you want to speak about you and have to
Speaker 2: seek about what I talk about. But whatever you are
Speaker 2: passionate about, try out try out talking about it on
Speaker 2: your stories. Heyward to your friends and they were like, oh,
Speaker 2: but no, but only you can do that, And I
Speaker 2: oh no, but no, no one. You know, I'm not
Speaker 2: the same as you. I can't do that. And it's like,
Speaker 2: you can. You're just scared of any kind of backbash,
Speaker 2: of being any kind of controversial to maybe how you
Speaker 2: perceive your audience. And I think that it's kind of
Speaker 2: underestimating the audience and presuming that they are really close
Speaker 2: minded and conservative.
Speaker 1: People are afraid of being wrong. Though, that's where you
Speaker 1: step in. You know, you're Bachelorette or other people from
Speaker 1: reality television, they would love to be as outspoken as
Speaker 1: you on their platforms. But I think that you're not
Speaker 1: afraid of being wrong, and it's very interesting to watch
Speaker 1: you evolve with some of your thoughts on topics because
Speaker 1: you're willing to change your mind.
Speaker 2: I think I speak about so many things every day
Speaker 2: in so many different ways. Yeah, I think I have
Speaker 2: to be willing to be wrong and not take it
Speaker 2: as a complete personal failure. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 2: everything you know, and I can't know everything. No one can.
Speaker 1: I love it. That's why I'm in your audience. I mean,
Speaker 1: previously celebrities have shied away from having their opinions out there.
Speaker 1: Are you changing the way that celebrities can use their
Speaker 1: social media good? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think, God, that's that would be That's a very
Speaker 2: big call. But I feel that maybe maybe I'm encouraging
Speaker 2: people to to speak their mind on topics and kind
Speaker 2: of maybe even it's just I'm encouraging people who have
Speaker 2: a platform to analyze what they do think about this.
Speaker 2: Whether I post about it. I'm helping them actually analyze it.
Speaker 2: Then when they do speak about it, they have an
Speaker 2: opinion rather than just sharing an infographic, which is fine,
Speaker 2: but I think that the real, the real engagement, the
Speaker 2: real interesting conversations come from personal opinions and how they
Speaker 2: are formed.
Speaker 1: You know. The last question I have for you is
Speaker 1: about the Mast Singer, which obviously we are promoting who
Speaker 1: has the best performance of the season. I mean, who
Speaker 1: did you walk away still thinking about? Was it Dragonfly, Popcorn,
Speaker 1: mirror Ball? Whose performance are you still thinking about?
Speaker 2: It's actually one from Blowfly. It's a song that I
Speaker 2: actually after they were revealed, I was like, I need
Speaker 2: you to do a like a version of that or
Speaker 2: at least a cover, because I need to have it
Speaker 2: on Spotify. Like I thought about it. Every time I
Speaker 2: think about obviously the Mask Singer, which is every day
Speaker 2: at the moment, but I think about how much I
Speaker 2: want to hear that performance again. How I'm so excited
Speaker 2: for that episode. So Blowfly is amazing.
Speaker 1: The last question I'm going to ask you is something
Speaker 1: that ask everyone, What is something from behind the scenes
Speaker 1: that we as an audience did not see that we
Speaker 1: won't see something of a behind the scenes secret, something
Speaker 1: we would love to know from behind the scenes of
Speaker 1: your time on the mast Singer Australia.
Speaker 2: Now, isn't that scandalous? But I did. When we got
Speaker 2: on set, we had these really shitty water bottles, like
Speaker 2: we could not suck water out of them for the
Speaker 2: life of us, all also complaining about it the whole time.
Speaker 2: So on the first day I placed an order for
Speaker 2: everyone to have a nice little matching frank green water bottle.
Speaker 2: So if you ever see our water bottles, that's why
Speaker 2: they're all matching match you because I got Melby a
Speaker 2: little rainbow chrome one, Husually got a black one, Chrissy
Speaker 2: got one to match with me because we're just best
Speaker 2: friends forever. And yeah, maybe that's the only really interesting
Speaker 2: thing of the mat We're quite boringly nice, which is
Speaker 2: great for us but not great for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's not what we've wanted. We want to
Speaker 1: know that Dern is Christy swan mean, is Melby a
Speaker 1: bitch's Husy a nightmare? But it all turns out that
Speaker 1: it's actually really nice. I will say something Abby. I
Speaker 1: was there to watch it as it was being recorded,
Speaker 1: and the electricity behind the scenes and between you as
Speaker 1: the panel was magic, and I think that this season
Speaker 1: is going to do very well because of that chemistry
Speaker 1: between the four of you. It's a good season.
Speaker 2: I think it is as well. I think it's a
Speaker 2: whole new I mean, obviously, Jackie, Danny and Ursula are amazing.
Speaker 2: I adore the more. I love watching them on The Master.
Speaker 2: But I think it is really different this season. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to seeing it along with everyone else.
Speaker 1: And I will say, when I saw you at the
Speaker 1: Logis after party, I was a little bit in my
Speaker 1: head and I was thinking to myself, I had no
Speaker 1: idea how charming you are as a person. You're a charmer,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, I don't know if I thought
Speaker 1: there was a perceived idea of what you were going
Speaker 1: to be like. But you're very generous in your time
Speaker 1: with people, and you're very thoughtful about what you're saying
Speaker 1: to people.
Speaker 2: Thank you, that's lovely to hear. That's a lovely, lovely
Speaker 2: to talk to you, Ben.
Speaker 1: Good luck tonight.