1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: On today's show, Tammy Hembro confirms she's engaged after a 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 1: three month whirlwind romance, Mollie Mayheg breaks her silence a 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: mid breakup speculation, and Jade Tunci's emotional pregnancy announcement. Hello 4 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the hottest 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: influencer and pop culture news. 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 2: I'm Sophie Torbert and I'm. 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: So excited we are officially recording in my brand new house. 8 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: We're in limbo at the moment because Brandon and I 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: are working on a proper podcast room, but we do 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: have it set up on our kitchen table at the moment. 11 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: I don't know who's more excited for the fact that 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: we're recording at your house, you or me, Because this 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: was a six minute drive for me, I am living 14 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: the dream I am now not living the dreams. I 15 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: can't just wander out into the podcast room at my house. 16 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: I have had to move this equipment a number of 17 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: times this week. So because you have been missing in action, Yeah, 18 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: I've been sad to miss a few podcast episodes for 19 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: the subs. But the reason is you guys touched on 20 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: not in that episode. My landlord and owner of the 21 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: house that we've been renting for the past three years 22 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: have been nightmare. So the what is expected of you 23 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: when you rent a house and then you leave is 24 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: just ridiculous. I'm interested to know if it's the same 25 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: in other states, but in South Australia you have to 26 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: basically leave the house better than when you moved in, 27 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: which is just impossible, especially when you do rent a 28 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: house where the owner has used very very cheap paint 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: and very cheap tiles and everything. 30 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: It's just been a nightmare. 31 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: You're not jaded about the experience at all, no, I 32 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: mean I have spent eight hundred dollars on getting the 33 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: house professionally clean, so it has not been fun. Well, 34 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: you have been pretty busy around your new house as well. 35 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: We did a little bit of our walk through before 36 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: and there is a TV the size. 37 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: Of a wall in one of the bedrooms. 38 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: Well, for my partner's thirtieth he did want a TV 39 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: instead of having a party, so his parents gave him 40 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: a TV instead. And everyone has commented because when you 41 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: guys were all helping move all the stuff, everyone's like, 42 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: oh my god, this house does not need one more TV. 43 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: How many TVs do you have. I felt like there 44 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: were so many being pulled out of the truck. Well, 45 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,279 Speaker 1: there's more TVs than people. Well that's my partner's favorite 46 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: past time watching movies. Are there though, I actually don't know. Well, 47 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: the TV that has been bought, the new TV, it's 48 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: eighty five inches. 49 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 2: I was like, what the hell. 50 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: The issue with the TV is that it's so big 51 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: that when you're sitting on the couch to watch it, 52 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: you need to put your head back, so it's almost 53 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 1: like your front. 54 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: Row at the movie. 55 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: And I just point out, we're saying that this is 56 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: a movie room, and when people say that, I automatically 57 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: think of these huge theaters the influencers or celebrities have 58 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: in the house. I just want to preface it's literally 59 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: a tiny, normal sized room, just a blank room with 60 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: a massive TV. So it's not like Mitch ge Orbyls 61 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: Brandon won't be sleeping out in there. 62 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm angry at him. 63 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: I think he would like the aesthetics of Mitcheorble's movie room, 64 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: but I don't think it will get to that. 65 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 3: I Oh my gosh, I'm not kidding. This is so good. 66 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: The rumors are true. 67 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro and Matsakowski are engaged after three months of dating. So, 68 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: as we all suspected, the pair got engaged in the 69 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: Maldives during a very extravagant trip away. Tammy announced the 70 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: news to her seventeen million followers by sharing a reel 71 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: of the romantic moment. She captured the post, Never in 72 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: my life have I felt so safe, so loved, so understood, 73 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: so cared for what a plot twist you were. Now, 74 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: despite the exciting news, not everyone is happy now before 75 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: we get into the backlash, Sophie, can you get everyone 76 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: up to speed with Tammy and Matt's dating timeline? Yeah, 77 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: a lot has happened in only three months. So. A 78 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: photo of the couple first went public on the third 79 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: of September after a fan snapped a paparazzi style video 80 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: of Tammy and Matt cuddling outside a hotel. Now. Tammy 81 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: was then spotted on the twenty second of September and 82 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: Matt's podcast live show in Sydney, where they were seen 83 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: cuddling at the show. It's pretty funny because Matt claimed 84 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: that he didn't know who Tammy was until his podcast 85 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: producer mentioned that she should be on the invite list 86 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: for this live show, so he apparently took matters into 87 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: his own hands and invited her personally. I just don't 88 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: buy that the podcas cast manager is asking Matt to 89 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: reach out to her. I feel like it was more 90 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: of an excuse on Matt's behalf to pretend he. 91 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: Didn't know who she was. 92 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: It's a perfect way to slide into someone's dam. 93 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: Now back to our timeline. 94 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: The couple made it Instagram official on the twenty seventh 95 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: of September after appearing together at the premiere of a 96 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: Stan original series in Sydney, and Tammy revealed it shortly 97 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: after that. The two weeks into their relationship, she got 98 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: Matt's name tattooed on her inner hip at the White 99 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: Fox Boutique brand event, which was in La. So I'm 100 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: interested to know how much time they've actually spent together, 101 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: because Matt and Tammy don't live in the same state. 102 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: Tammy's been on this huge La trip. So if we're 103 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: whittling it down, how many times have they seen each 104 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: other in person? It's almost like one of those bachelor 105 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: relationships where they've had all these amazing dates and he's 106 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: got down at the end of the year on one 107 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: day and gone, Yep, I choose you. That's what was 108 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: confusing about it, because it seems like they're very much 109 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: in the honeymoon stages. The thing that also shocked me 110 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: about this engagement is generally it takes a couple of 111 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: months to have a ring made, and they've only been 112 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: dating for three month, So when was this decision made. 113 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: I think if you're proposing to Tammy Hembro, there's going 114 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,119 Speaker 1: to be some jewelers who put their hands up pretty 115 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: quickly to supply a ring. Yeah, I think they would 116 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: be bending over backwards for the exposure. Now back to 117 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: the timeline. On the twenty fifth of November, the couple 118 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: arrived in the mal Dives for their holiday, and it 119 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: wasn't long until engagement rumors went into overdrive, with Tammy 120 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: sharing a quickly deleted Instagram story wearing a massive rock 121 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: on her wedding finger. Now the ring was also spotted 122 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: back to front in follow up social media posts. Now, 123 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: a spanner was thrown into the works when a fan 124 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: snapped a picture of Tammy and mattkewing separately at the 125 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: airport on the way home from the maw Dives. But 126 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: since then, the couple shed that they got matching heart 127 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: tattoos alongside Tammy's two sisters, Ava and Starlet. I was 128 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: already horrified that tattoos were being preuhermanently put on bodies 129 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: two weeks into the relationship, So when I did see 130 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: this engagement announcement pop up in my feet, I thought, 131 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: surely not. I'm all for love, and I think it's 132 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: beautiful if they've found each other. I just don't understand 133 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: why people rush into marriage so quickly, though, Like, can't 134 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: you give each other a. 135 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: Promise ring and see how things go? 136 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: What are they thirteen or not a promise ring? But 137 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: why do you have to pop the question so soon 138 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: into it? What's the rush? I'd be more concerned if 139 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: they actually had a secret wedding in the Mawdives. This 140 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: could be a really long engagement. I mean, I feel 141 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: like Matt's obviously very swept up in this relationship. He's 142 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: seen this as a great opportunity to propose. What we 143 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: need to find out is when do they plan to 144 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: get married. Isn't there always a rule that you need 145 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: to see what someone's like on holidays before proposing, So 146 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe this holiday went down really well, But 147 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: it seems like this proposal took place a few days 148 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: in I think more so, the rule is you need 149 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: to see what it's like living in someone before you 150 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: get down on one day. I do hate to be 151 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: that person, but I do feel like there's a lot 152 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: of red flags going on just how quickly this relationship 153 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: is running its course, particularly with the tattoo. 154 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 2: Seems like there's a lot of love bombing going on. 155 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: I think some of the concerns from fans isn't necessarily 156 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: coming from a bad place. I think that the fact 157 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: that Tammy has been engaged now three times, people feel 158 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: this ownership over her, and there's some concern over her 159 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: children and how are they. Yeah, but I think that 160 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: it's not coming from a place of concern. I think 161 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: it's coming from a place of judgment, and I don't 162 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: think it's necessarily her fans that are commenting her fans 163 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: are commenting congratulations. 164 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: I do think there is a. 165 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: Time and a place for this commentary, and I do 166 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: think there is a lot of slut shaming going on. Yes, 167 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: Tammy has been previously engaged twice and the last engagement 168 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: was in November twenty twenty one. So it does seem 169 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: fairly close, because we only got confirmation that her relationship 170 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: with Matt Paul. 171 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: Was over earlier this year. 172 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: They do have a one year old daughter, so I 173 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: think it just seems very soon that she's moved on. 174 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: But do we want her to stay with two guys 175 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: that weren't fulfilling her needs whatever reason they broke up, Like, 176 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: should we be promoting people to stay in toxic relations 177 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: I definitely don't think so, and I think it's up 178 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: to the individual. But I think to be fair, as 179 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: you said, I think there are a few red flags 180 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: in you don't often see people getting engaged after three months. 181 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: Actually our grandparents did get engaged after three months and 182 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: they had a very long marriage, but that was how 183 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: long ago, seventy years ago? Yeah, I mean, I do 184 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: think it is a combination of a few things. I 185 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: think it is the timing. It is the fact that 186 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: as this third engagement, and also people seem to be 187 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: wanting to mum shame her as well. There was a 188 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: lot of commentary about oh, your poor kids, they must 189 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: be so confused. I do think Tammy's engagement has a 190 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: lot to do with her age, though, because she is 191 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: twenty nine. I think Matt's around that age too. This 192 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: is the time when you start to take relationships seriously 193 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: and you might go, oh, well, she was only proposed 194 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: to two years ago. But people start to take things 195 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: seriously and yeah, but the class is very quick. It 196 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: is quick that I think that this must be completely 197 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: different to any relationship she's been in, because she would 198 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: know she is going to cop a lot of flak 199 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 1: over this. They didn't have to announce the engagement. This 200 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: must be the real deal in order for her to 201 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: take some of this flack. What's interesting, though, is all 202 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: of the blame is being put on Tammy. On Matt. 203 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: Matt's actually the one that decided to propose so quickly. 204 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it would be difficult to say no if 205 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: you're being proposed to in this epic setting in the 206 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: mal Dives. I wonder if she has put some things 207 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: in place saying, look, I do want this to be 208 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: a long engagement, you know, getting financial stuff sorted out. 209 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: Because another comment that I keep seeing is everyone saying, well, 210 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: Matt's clearly seen dollar signs. I just think that's really 211 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: nasty to Matt. I mean, let's wait until they actually 212 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: get married. I'm sure Tammy, with all the money she has, 213 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: she'll have a good lawyer and she'll set herself up 214 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: safely before that marriage goes ahead. 215 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 2: That's the thing. 216 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: She's been engaged three times, but she's never actually been married, 217 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: so people are judging her on that. 218 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: But I mean, at least she. 219 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: Hasn't pulled the trigger on all of these different weddings 220 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: and then had to deal with divorces like she seems 221 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: to know when to pull the pin on a relationship. 222 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: People are saying that she is the modern day Elizabeth Taylor, 223 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: and there have been a few articles announcing the news 224 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: saying three times a charm, and the comments have ranged 225 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: from wait didn't this happen last year with someone else? 226 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: To maybe third time will be it? I literally can't 227 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: keep up with how many times you've been engaged. 228 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 2: See. 229 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: I didn't like those comments on social media. I just 230 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: thought they were inappropriate, like maybe comment later, but let 231 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: her enjoy her moment. I also didn't like the commentary 232 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: around fertility going on, so a lot of people were like, oh, Matt, 233 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: she's going to trap you with another baby. And the 234 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: thing is it's very inaccurate because Matt has publicly spoken 235 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: about how he was diagnosed with infertility at twenty five. 236 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: So in an interview, he said, when I start seeing 237 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: a girl, it's one of the first things I tell them. 238 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: My ex I told her on the second day and said, hey, 239 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: I can't have kids. In the end, it was something 240 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: that played a big factor in our relationship and our timeline. 241 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: He also added, I'm not ashamed of it. This is 242 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: the card I've been dealt for my life. When I 243 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: read things like that, I kind of think that this 244 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: situation might be ideal for Matt because he's got the 245 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: built in family. Tammy probably doesn't want any more kids, 246 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: she's already got three. Maybe this relationship was just meant 247 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: to be. Yeah. I think when they put up this post, 248 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: they knew they were going to cop some criticism and 249 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: people who were shocked because, as you say, this is 250 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: her third engagement, they've only been together for three months. 251 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: And when you do make your relationship public and you 252 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: open it up to the general community to have an opinion, 253 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: they are going to share their opinions. I want to 254 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: see if Tammy pops up on Matt and Anna's podcast, 255 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: surely she'll be on to tell the engagement story. Well, 256 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: I just want to see this ring. I mean, I 257 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: want to compare the three engagement rings. This one has 258 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: to be the nicest if you're doing a third time round. 259 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: Well, from what I've. 260 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: Seen of it, it's just this massive oval diamond with 261 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: a gold band. 262 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: I love it. 263 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: It kind of looks a little bit like Courtney Kardashian's 264 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: engagement I am intrigued to know if she got to 265 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: keep the other two engagement rings, so she'd be kind 266 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: of up on the deal in this stary she's given 267 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: them back. Well, the new one kind of looks like 268 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: the ring that Matt Paul gave her, but a little 269 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: bit less blinging. 270 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: I love the one that he gave her. 271 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: I love the kind of detail around the band. 272 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was beautiful. Name one Woman? 273 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 3: What is this? 274 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 4: Nothing? 275 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 2: Just name a woman. 276 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: There's a new TikTok trend that being used as a 277 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: relationship test. So basically, if you want to pick a 278 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: fight with your partner, go home tonight and play this 279 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: game with them and film their reaction. So it's called 280 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: Name a Woman Challenge, and as the name suggests, women 281 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: are spontaneously asking their partners to name the first woman 282 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: that springs to mind. I actually did this with Reese 283 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: last night, and thank god, he said Kate. But then 284 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: he kind of laughed and said he had seen the 285 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: challenge before, but there was truly a moment where my 286 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: heart was kind of in my stomach waiting for him 287 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: to say a name. I film my partner doing this too, 288 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: and he hadn't heard of the challenge. But everyone jokes 289 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: that my partner is really on the ball with these 290 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: things and quite intuitive, so he is obsessed with you. Well, 291 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: he instantly said, Sophie. 292 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 2: Good. 293 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: Now again, if any partners are listening, of course your 294 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: partner wants you to say their name. That's the only 295 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: name that should spring to mind. The other reasonable names 296 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: have been if you have a pet, which is a female, 297 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: so people have been saying their pet dog's name, or 298 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: if you have a daughter and you say their name. Yeah, 299 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: I think those would be pass but I did expect 300 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: Reese to say Sonny, our dog's name. Actually, now some 301 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: people haven't got the memo. Let's throw to some of 302 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: the challenge videos that are going viral at the moment 303 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: for the wrong reasons. 304 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 4: Didn't give me a woman's name. 305 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 3: A woman's name. 306 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: The first one that comes to your mind, Samantha. 307 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: My sister's name name says. 308 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: Oh whatever, God get Samantha. 309 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 3: What that. 310 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: See? When I saw this video, I actually didn't instantly think, oh, 311 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: the husband should name the wife, Like I don't know, 312 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: maybe that's where my mind is that because when it 313 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: says name a woman's name, I just assumed a different onye. 314 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: But you would be like, well, hang on, who's Katie? 315 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: And why should the first name to pop into your head? 316 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: Like I totally understand that there must be some psychology 317 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: behind Yeah, well, you definitely don't want to say your 318 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: ex's name, do you. That would actually be a dumb 319 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: ball offense. Some men are getting caught out for saying 320 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: the names of women that their partner expects that there's 321 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: something going on with at work, So that would be 322 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: a terrible one. It's just such a slippery slope for men. 323 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: I just feel like you can't win in this game 324 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: unless you say your partner's name. 325 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: I would love to. 326 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: See this challenge reverse if women didn't know about it, 327 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: and see like, would you say your partner's name? I 328 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: actually don't think I would, because this is A psychologist 329 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: said that this should just be a bit of fun 330 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: and that it's actually more interesting to see how your 331 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: partner's brain works, because I think that some people do 332 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: start panicking, Like there were definitely guys who were panicking 333 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: during these tiktoks, thinking. 334 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: What am I supposed to say? 335 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: What is this going to say about me? Do I 336 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: have to do? And a lot of men pick celebrities, 337 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: so a lot of men picked their celebrity crushes. I 338 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: personally think I would probably just pick some random name 339 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: that popped into my head too. 340 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: Saying the word Michael in my head. 341 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what Michael, Michael Finch, I don't know 342 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: who is he. 343 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 4: Guys, I don't really know what to come on here 344 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 4: and tell you right now. 345 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: Molly may Haeg has broken her silence a mid break 346 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: up speculation, as listeners will remember a couple of weeks 347 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: ago her feeling. Say, Tommy Fury was captured partying at 348 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: a Dubai nightclub with Chris Brown, and he appeared to 349 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: be flirting with a random woman who was playfully grabbing 350 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: at his face during that night, it was a bad look. 351 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: He was also seen dancing topless and smoking what appeared 352 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: to be a cigarette with Chris Brown, so it sounds 353 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: like it's like fifteen, and he appeared to smoking a cigarette. 354 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 2: T people were thinking it was more than a sort. 355 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's unclear what he was smoking now. 356 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: This vision has of course since gone viral. Following the 357 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: night out, Molly was pictured on several occasions without her 358 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: engagement ring on now. After a three week break on 359 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: her YouTube channel, Molly appeared back on there on Friday. Now. 360 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: This vlog had been pre recorded prior to that nightclub incident, 361 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: but Molly's outro was freshly filmed. 362 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 2: In it, she. 363 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: Appeared on camera with no makeup on and not wearing 364 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: her engagement ring, and she started tearing up, saying she's 365 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: been going through it. 366 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: Let's throw to what she said. 367 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 4: I know, I know how bad I look. 368 00:15:58,600 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: Trust me. 369 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 4: However bad I look, I feel twenty times worse. My gosh, 370 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 4: I am posting this blog today. It is probably one 371 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 4: of the worst fogs I've ever created. But I want 372 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 4: to post it today because I put on my Instagram 373 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 4: yesterday saying that I've had to take a bit of 374 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 4: a break from YouTube and I want to come back 375 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 4: on here for you guys. And I had this video 376 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 4: and I want it to go live, so I'm just 377 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 4: closing it off. I also have another video coming soon, 378 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 4: the Q and A that I was talking about, and 379 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 4: when I was sat in that spot, i'd be like, 380 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 4: get ready with me, and I also answer your guys' questions, 381 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 4: and that's coming soon too. These have both been pre 382 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 4: recorded videos, to be completely honest, have been going through 383 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 4: it in more ways than one. Yeah, hoping that in 384 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 4: i'd say about a week, I might be in a 385 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 4: place mentally, physically, and emotionally where I can start filming 386 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 4: some proper content for you guys again and get back 387 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 4: on my channel. So just please there with me. I 388 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 4: am really really desperate to come back to you guys. Anyway. 389 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 4: I hope you enjoyed this video is very random and 390 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 4: probably were one of the worst worst folks I've ever made. 391 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 4: But anyway, I love you or I'll be back soon. 392 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 4: Have a get Ready with Me coming soon, and I'll 393 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 4: speak to you guys just in the weirdest well chop soon. Anyway, 394 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 4: I love you, guys, I'll speak you very soon. 395 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: I was really shocked by this because I thought she'd 396 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,239 Speaker 1: already put these rumors to bed on Wednesday, because she 397 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: uploaded a photo to her grid of her looking very 398 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: glamorous at the House of c B Christmas party, and 399 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: in the photo she was very obviously wearing her massive 400 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: engagement ring, and Tommy had commented saying how stunning she was. 401 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: So I thought this was all a part of the 402 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: strategy to move on. There's nothing to see here, but 403 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: for her then to comment on her video, there must be. 404 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 2: Something big going on. Well. 405 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: Prior to that, the media had been reporting that sources 406 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: close to Molly were saying that she was more to 407 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: fed by Tommy's behavior and had laid down the law 408 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: to him, saying that he needed to change his ways 409 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: and he needed to ditch his friends that like to party. 410 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: So obviously there's been a lot of media speculation around this, 411 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: which would be incredibly difficult to deal with. And I 412 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: think that when scandals like this happen so publicly, you 413 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: often don't see how the person at the center of 414 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: it is actually fairing Because we kept seeing all these 415 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: very glamorous photos of Molly, but to see her sitting 416 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: at home looking really broken and upset, it just. 417 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 2: Makes it feel a lot more real. I just felt 418 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 2: so bad for her. It would be so much pressure 419 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 2: on her. 420 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: She hasn't gone out and done anything wrong, but the 421 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: focus is on her and how she's reacting on social media. 422 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: She probably just wants to have a tantrum and lock 423 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: herself away and not actually respond to this. She's also 424 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: got the added pressure because part of her job is 425 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: to share her life on YouTube, and with her relationship 426 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: up in limbo at the moment, it's very difficult for 427 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: her to do. So. She's got Christmas coming up with 428 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: She's probably got a whole bunch of brand deals that 429 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: she needs to do work for as well, so she 430 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: has to actually come out and say something. 431 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 2: Tommy does appear. 432 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: To be living at the house at the moment, because 433 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: he has been spotted picking up his car in the 434 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: local Manchester area and he said to have returned to 435 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: their three point five million dollar house. He did post 436 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: a photo of their daughter Bambi when he arrived home, 437 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: saying how much he'd missed her, and there was some 438 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: criticism from fans that he was trying to sort of 439 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: appear to be the good. 440 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: Guy and the good dad. 441 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: When Tommy normally returns home from an overseas trip, Molly 442 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: usually puts out the bells and whistles. Sometimes she gets 443 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: event planners involved to set up some sort of installation 444 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: in their house. 445 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 2: And she gets all his favorite food. We've seen none 446 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 2: of that. Well, she looked like a complete doormat if 447 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: she set up something like that. I have never seen 448 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 2: a hard launch quite like it. 449 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 4: It wasn't just you, it was a collab post hard launch, 450 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 4: it was Yeah. 451 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: While some influencers now refuse to speak about their love lives, refreshingly, 452 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: one UK influencer is taking us along for the ride. 453 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: Og YouTuber Saffron Baker is loved up and wants the 454 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: whole world to know she's dating Welsh rugby player Lewis 455 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: Ree Sambot now Sophie. For those who aren't up with 456 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: Saffron and Louie, can you give us a little bit 457 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: of background? I have to put it out there. This 458 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: relationship is my current Roman empire. It has captured me 459 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: in a way that I was not expecting. So Fron 460 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: Barker is one of my favorite influencers. She is a 461 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: twenty three year old YouTuber from Brighton and she has 462 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: twenty three Yeah, it's pretty crazy that she is winning 463 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: twenty three. She has one point eight million followers on 464 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: Instagram and she grew her following when she was at 465 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: high school and she ended up vlogging every single day 466 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: for a year. Now. She has made a break into 467 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: the mainstream by appearing on a number of UK reality shows, 468 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: including Strictly Come Dancing, and she's also infamously dated Love 469 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: Island's Luca bish As for Lewis Reese Sambert, he is 470 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: a twenty two year old rugby player. He plays for 471 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: Gloucester and recently played in the. 472 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 2: Rugby World Cup. 473 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: He has two hundred and forty eight thousand followers and 474 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: attracted a very young female following for being pretty much hot. 475 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: Now heart's broke around Wales when Saffron and Lewis hard 476 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: launched their relationship back in November. 477 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 2: It was probably one of the hardest launches I've ever seen. 478 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it, but I was up at six 479 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: am for a work thing. I went to my phone 480 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: and was in disbelief. Because to put it into perspective 481 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: for those who don't follow her, she has a dating 482 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: podcast with another UK influencer and for the past three 483 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: weeks they've been banging on about being single as fuck 484 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: and not having a whiff of anyone, and then suddenly 485 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: the photo that she posted was of the two of 486 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: them at this very fancy event, and they're making out 487 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: in the photo. I also think it was shocking because 488 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: they're only twenty three and think back to when we 489 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 1: were in our early twenties. How hard was it to 490 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: get a guy to actually say he was your boyfriend. 491 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: The last guy's all over social media. I'm not saying 492 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: this is his reason, but I suppose she has got 493 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: one point eight million followers. He's only got in the 494 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: two hundred thousand, so it is a good opportunity for 495 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: him to help grow his profile. Well, the comments that 496 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: was flooded with heartbroken fans tagging their friends and saying 497 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: that Saffron stole their man. This has also become a 498 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: viral TikTok trend where women have been posting about how 499 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: much they dislike Saffron for stealing their man and they 500 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: wish they were her. 501 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 2: I didn't realize that. Yeah, it's horrible popping up for me. 502 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: Sophy's on the algorithm now. Now a lot of people 503 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: have questioned how and where they met, and Saffron has 504 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: gone into extensive detail about this. So they met on 505 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: the celebrity dating app Raya and apparently Saffron didn't actually 506 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,239 Speaker 1: answer his first message, so he ended up hitting her 507 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: up in her DMS. And it seems like things moved 508 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,719 Speaker 1: really quickly because the first time they spoke he suggested 509 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,239 Speaker 1: going on a holiday with her to Monte Carlo, and 510 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: then following that he drove six hours to visit her 511 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: at Brighton. This has got Matt Sukowski vibe, so we're 512 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: thinking there is going to be an engagement on Christmas Eve. No, 513 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,719 Speaker 1: I don't think so, but they do look very cozy together. 514 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: He's been popping up in some of her YouTube videos, 515 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,959 Speaker 1: which I've got to say, I am loving the inclusion. 516 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: She seems very comfortable around him, like she's acting just 517 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: exactly how she does on her YouTube channel, because sometimes 518 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: you see influencers completely change in front of the camera 519 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: when their partner is watching. It's quite funny because she 520 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 1: has this dating podcast as I touched on, and she 521 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: went into the fact that the first time they met, 522 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: she got incredibly drunk, like paralytic drunk the first night 523 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: they went out, and she basically did all of the 524 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: wrong things, but has ended up securing him after only 525 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: a few weeks. 526 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: That's actually really positive. For people to hear. 527 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: I think I just love how honest she's been though, 528 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,239 Speaker 1: because not only has you told that embarrassing story, but 529 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: she's actually giving her followers what people want to see. 530 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: We want to hear the insights into how they bore. 531 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: Her YouTube channel has been pretty boring because all she 532 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: seems to do is she's got this fuck off mansion 533 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: with a gym in it, and her life seems to 534 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: be just her going to the gym. Her YouTube channel 535 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: is my favorite YouTube channel. No, it's getting good now, 536 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: but or it was just her making oats and going 537 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: to her personal gym. I will not have you speak 538 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: about some from Barcal like that. I am obsessed with 539 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: her videos. She's just so relaxing. She's the only one 540 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: who constantly puts out good content. That's the thing. Like 541 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: going back to this whole relationship thing, when we're seeing 542 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: so many influencers try and safeguard their relationships and only 543 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: introduce us to people after a sad amount of time, 544 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: I think it's really refreshing to see Saffron actually opening 545 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: up about this relationship. 546 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: It really reminds me of. 547 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: The og YouTube days where we get a fly on 548 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: the wall look at this relationship. Do you think the 549 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: influencers are actually changing things up? Now We've seen it 550 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: with Tammy Hembro. She's creating excitement. There's been a lot 551 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: of discussion that influencers have been boring recently, so it's 552 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: what we all need. Well, I definitely think that we 553 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: need it, Otherwise the influencer industry is going to diet 554 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: because we don't just want to see people's ads. I 555 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: do have to mention one of the hilarious things that 556 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: Saffron chaied about her relationship and we have put this 557 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: on TikTok so. Her boyfriend, as we touched on, plays rugby. 558 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: He's often traveling around, so she wanted to get him 559 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: a good luck charm and something to mind him of her. 560 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: So she ended up getting a personalized teddy Bear. It 561 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: was this weird doll with her face printed on it 562 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,959 Speaker 1: and it was wearing a Welsh rug jersey. This was 563 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: so cringe and so embarrassing because the face almost looked 564 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: three D on It was very lifelike. It was pornographic, 565 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: almost like a blow up doll, but a soft toy. 566 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 2: Can you imagine the stick he would be getting in 567 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 2: the change room. 568 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: But doesn't it just remind you of when you start 569 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: dating someone and these ideas seem like a good idea. 570 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 2: Would I would never ever think to do it. 571 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: Well, they are in a long distance relationship, and when 572 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: you are in one, you do get a bit silly. 573 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: You think, oh, that seems like a really good idea. 574 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: That's really cute. Now, Amy, are you trying to tell 575 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: us subtly that you got your face on a Teddy 576 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: bear sent to Dale? No, I didn't do anything like that, 577 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: But I just think back to things that you know, 578 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: late at night you're like, oh, that's a really good idea. 579 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 2: Maybe I'll send that over. 580 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: Well, they are only twenty two and twenty three as well. 581 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: I think you're allowed to be embarrassed. So surely, in 582 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: the harsh light of day, when you've got the delivery 583 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: of the bear, you wouldn't put it on your YouTube channel. 584 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: It's opening yourself up for criticism, particularly when there's so 585 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: many girls who are jealous of you. I actually think 586 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: that some of the jealousy is the reason that she 587 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: is posting. There was also a video of her with 588 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: his name ablazoned on her back. She was wearing a 589 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: rugby jersey and just pointing to his name, and I'm 590 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: thinking that is a direct fuck you to all of 591 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: the Welsh fans who are obsessed with this guy, and 592 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: I probably would want to do the same thing. Is 593 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: it wrong that all I can think about is that 594 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: this is going to end badly? 595 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 2: Or should I just be strapped in for the right 596 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 2: I'm just I've got the popcorn out. 597 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: I'm enjoying every moment of this relation. Now with us 598 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: where we're going to leave things today. 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