1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Joining me in the studio right now, in the absence 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: of the Lord Mayor conbat Scalas, we've got the CEO 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: of the City of Darwin Council, Simone and Saunders. 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 2: Good morning to you morning, Katie. 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:10,159 Speaker 3: How are you? 6 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, really well, thank you so much for your time. Now, 7 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: first things first, did you catch that Four Corners episode 8 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: overnight that highlighted security, the private security that we have operating, 9 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: well a lot of that security actually operating in the 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: Darwin municipality. 11 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I just said the report on Four Corners 12 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: last night. And City of Darwin does contribute four hundred 13 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year to those safe City patrols. The 14 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: contracts are managed and overseen by the Northern Territory Government, 15 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: but City of Darwen does provide funding for those for 16 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 2: those contracts. 17 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: So for any of that vision, I guess said a 18 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: merge that showed, you know, some behavior that people may 19 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: not expect of that private security, does that then fall 20 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: upon the City of Darwen, the or the or the 21 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: Northern Territory government to have a closer look at. 22 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: It's a Northern Territory government contract. They're not operating under 23 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: City of dull And by laws. So therefore those questions 24 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: really are for the Northern Territory government and we've had mixed, 25 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,279 Speaker 2: you know, feedback from the community. A lot of people 26 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 2: do say that they feel comfortable and safe in the 27 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: city when they can see the blue shirts so to speak. 28 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 2: And also I have sudden seen the stats over the 29 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 2: period of time. There's a lot of I guess cotic 30 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: predictions that they make for people on the streets and 31 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: people sleeping, raugh to other services and also link them 32 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: with our you know Larache Nation or our outreach team 33 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: for assistance as well, so there's a lot of provision 34 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: of services as well that come with with those patrols. 35 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: Would you say that they have made a difference in 36 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: our CBD in terms of some of that anti social 37 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: behavior and well, I guess, you know, the police are 38 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: having to deal with crime, but with that anti social 39 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: behavior and that public drinking. 40 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: Look, I think you know, residents do do say that 41 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: they do feel safe in the city. But ultimately, I 42 00:01:58,320 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: think for City of Dun, we do want a seeing 43 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: increase in the policing numbers, so where it is tipping 44 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: out of alcohol, moving people on responsibilities that do sit 45 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: within the Northern Church Police Service. That's where City of 46 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: Darwin would like to see those resources and increasing in 47 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 2: our policing numbers. 48 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: All right, So the answer from the council's perspective really 49 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: is that, you know, if we've got more police on 50 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: the beach, then we're not actually going to need that security. 51 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think Lord Mayor said this, said this bit, 52 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: but really the visibility of police in the city and 53 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: over the whole municipality is really what we'd like to see. 54 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: So from your perspective, are there any changes or anything 55 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: that the council will be reviewing as a result of 56 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: what was seen last night. 57 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 2: No, it's not a decision for council. Our funding is 58 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: up until the thirtieth of June next year, and that 59 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: that funding remains remains in place by the Northern Church Government. 60 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: Now, Simone, I do want to ask you about another 61 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: issue that we spoke quite extensively about yesterday. We spoke 62 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: to mum Imagen Bristol, whose little girl was attacked by 63 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: a dog on Jabaru Street in Willagi just a couple 64 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Now, to those out listening who missed 65 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: that interview, take a listen to what she had to say. Now, 66 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: tell me, what's been the reaction then from counsel and 67 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: what's sort of been the reaction since the attack? 68 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: I had really no response from the rangers. Yeah, one 69 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: of the rangers has been on leave. He asked me 70 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 3: to do a stat deck before he went on leave, 71 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 3: so I had to complete a form about what had happened. 72 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,399 Speaker 3: I'd gotten that all filled out and sent back through 73 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 3: him and then I hadn't heard from him for you know, 74 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 3: over a week. It's been two weeks now, and he said, look, sorry, 75 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: I've been on leave in Melbourne. Passed on to this 76 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: other ranger, so I spoke to him the other day 77 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: and yeah, there's just no urgency about you know, locating 78 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: the dog and impounding or seizing him. The second ranger 79 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: that contacted me was asking me information that had already 80 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: been provided at the start, like where does the person 81 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: live or what's the description of the dog the police 82 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: recall there. You should have this information. The dog should 83 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: have been taken immediately. They haven't contacted me or anything. 84 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 3: I've been one pressing it, pressing it. 85 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: So that was image and on the show yesterday, simone, 86 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: are you aware of what the latest is with this? 87 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: With this situation, Yeah. 88 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: So this, this particular dog attack happened on the fourteenth 89 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: and it is under investigation. On that day that was 90 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: reported to police and police didn't attend, but rangers did 91 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: attend that day. They sought information from from Miss Bristin 92 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 2: and went to the property that was provided and there 93 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 2: was no dog at that property. Over the past period 94 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 2: of time, there's been various various conversations, statue declaration and 95 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 2: at this stage other properties have been visited where this 96 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: dog could potentially be and they had not been able 97 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 2: to locate the dog. 98 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: So are they hiding the dog? 99 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 2: Look, it's a really really serious incident and dog attacks, 100 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: you know, can be extremely frightening. And our ranges open 101 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 2: the investigation file and they continue to make inquiries where 102 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: the potential location of the dog could be. And if 103 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: this dog is located and there they can prove that 104 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: it is in fact the dog, then it will absolutely 105 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: be impounded. So they'll continue. Ranges are in the process 106 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: now of doing some more door knocking in the neighborhood 107 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: to see if anybody else has any additional information. 108 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: I mean, do the owners of that property have any 109 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: kind of responsibility to take here? Though, given the fact 110 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: that that little girl's had to have surgery and has 111 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: been you know, has been attacked. 112 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I think we need to first work out 113 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: what property it is and work out who is actually 114 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 2: the owner of the dog. So at this stage we 115 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: need to work through the process in accordance with the 116 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: bylaws to make sure we have the right animal and 117 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 2: the right owner before we take it further. And the 118 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: bylaws are worse strengthened with the new City of duh 119 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: And bylaws, and there's absolutely responsibilities and penalties for owners 120 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: in relation to not having a dog under control or 121 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: having a dog that has injured or hurt a member 122 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 2: of the public. 123 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: Do you think it's good enough right now though, that 124 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: there's a little girl that's had to have that surgery 125 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: and then you've still no dog's actually been impounded or found. 126 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I think the ranges will continue to look 127 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 2: look for the dog and try to locate the dog. 128 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: And it must be really upsetting for miss Bristin and 129 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: her and her child given the nature of the attack, 130 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: But ranges will continue with the investigation to locate the 131 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 2: dog and it may be moved out of the municipality. 132 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 2: One of the challenges that we have in the Northern 133 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: Territory is we don't have uniform animal management legislation that 134 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 2: we see in South Australia or Western Australia, and that 135 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:31,239 Speaker 2: would enable us if a dog is declared dangerous anywhere 136 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 2: within the territory, it can't move between jurisdictions without us 137 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 2: being aware. So it really is really is consumed where 138 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: has this dog now now gone to? 139 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: So is that part of the problem here is that 140 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: you know this dangerous dogog, Well, it clearly is dangerous 141 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: if it's attacked a child. This dangerous dog could be 142 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: just about anyway. 143 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: Well, we don't know the whereabouts of the dog in 144 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: this particular time. So we have provided submissions to the 145 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: Northern Terretary Government that City of Darwin would really like 146 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 2: to see uniform animal management legislation enacted with within the 147 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: NT to help support councils in being able to manage 148 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 2: animals in the territory. 149 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: All right, So it does sound as though the rangers 150 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: are going to be back in contact with her though 151 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: to try and sort this issue out. 152 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely, they'll be. They'll be in continued contact with Miss 153 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: Preston in relation to to the to the issue and 154 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: any update that they will provide provide back when they can, just. 155 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: A very quick one because we're fast running out of time. 156 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: But I understand the forty k speed limit start in 157 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: the around the CBD tomorrow. Is that right? 158 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: Yes, so forty k's within within the Central Business District 159 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: with inside a grid right in the CBD. It doesn't 160 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:45,239 Speaker 2: include the Esplanade, Daily Street, Mcmin Street, they remain the same, 161 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: but that that grid within the within the CBD will 162 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: become forty forty commners per hour. I mean, this has 163 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: been done with considerable community consultation and it will enable 164 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: City of Darwin to really further green the city, put 165 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 2: in what we call parklet some buildouts that are just 166 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: difficult to manage that in those high speed zones, and 167 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: lived to you know, more pedestrian friendly city safe Liverpool. 168 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 2: Everything that's in now, I guess our strategic plan. 169 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: Some owns Saunders. We really appreciate your time this morning, 170 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: the CEO of the City of Darwin Council. Thank you