WEBVTT - Meat Pies & Soft Launches 

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the

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<v Speaker 1>hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Sophie Torba and coming up on today's show, Sammy Robinson

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<v Speaker 1>has a new man in her life, Mikayla Tester's former

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<v Speaker 1>manager's bold statement, and Molly May talks about baby number two.

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<v Speaker 1>But first, entrepreneur Michelle Battersby has revealed the very unorthodox

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<v Speaker 1>way that she eats a meat pie. The Sunroom founder

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<v Speaker 1>coursed to Stir online, revealing she's been eating it this.

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<v Speaker 2>Way her whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't actually eaten a meat pie since our so

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<v Speaker 1>teacher told us in year eleven what's in them?

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<v Speaker 2>But this almost made me want to test it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was in that same classroom and he said

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<v Speaker 1>that there's assholes and hoofs of the cows in there

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<v Speaker 1>and the fetus.

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<v Speaker 2>That is what really put me off.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a TikTok the other day and someone found

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<v Speaker 1>what looked like an asshole in a very cheaply made pie.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this whole conversation isn't meant to be putting

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<v Speaker 1>people off eating pies, because when Michelle ate this pie,

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<v Speaker 1>it actually looks so delicious. So what she does is

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<v Speaker 1>she firstly takes the lid off the pie and eats that,

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<v Speaker 1>so the pastry lid, and I think there's something to

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<v Speaker 1>be said for people who actually eat their pies like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember growing up it would always be a particular

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<v Speaker 1>girl that was quite a perfectionist, that would have been

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<v Speaker 1>able to pull the lid off perfectly and then eat

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<v Speaker 1>all the feeling. I'd've heard of people peeling the sausage

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<v Speaker 1>roll and eating the pastry first, and then the sausage bit,

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<v Speaker 1>which looks absolutely revolting. I'm sorry, that doesn't sound advertising

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<v Speaker 1>to me. I want to get the pastry in, okay

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<v Speaker 1>with the mixture.

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<v Speaker 2>If you got to wait.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, she eats the lid first, and then she

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<v Speaker 1>puts tomato sauce on the meat, and she eats all

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<v Speaker 1>of the meat by itself with a fork some yah.

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<v Speaker 1>But then she leaves a little bit of the meat

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<v Speaker 1>in the bottom of the pie. And then she gets

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<v Speaker 1>a bag of light and tangy chips, crushes them up,

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<v Speaker 1>puts it in the pie, and then eats it as

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<v Speaker 1>if it's like its own taco. Wow. I mean, she's

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<v Speaker 1>actually one way over with the light and tangy chips.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like light and tangy chips are a blast

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<v Speaker 1>from the past, aren't they the chip that you'd have

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<v Speaker 1>growing up as a TI Yeah. It was a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a random chip though, because people who make chip

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<v Speaker 1>sandwiches I often find they'll use just an original plane plane.

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<v Speaker 1>Driving back in the day when Thins used to sell

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<v Speaker 1>that multi family pack and one bag would be light

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<v Speaker 1>and tanging, the other one would be plain, you'd always

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<v Speaker 1>go for the light and tangy first. Yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be flashbacks, and you'd get the tazo. Yeah. But

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<v Speaker 1>also I remember the bag was mostly full of air.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? You have any of them?

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<v Speaker 1>This hack actually reminds me of one of our family traditions,

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<v Speaker 1>which I grew up thinking was completely normal.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's vanilla ice cream with plane chips.

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<v Speaker 1>And they have to be plane chips. They can't be

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<v Speaker 1>a different flavor because it's the salty and the sweet

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<v Speaker 1>that goes together. I was talking about this combo with

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<v Speaker 1>my husband yesterday and his family and they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>that is so weird, and I'm like, you guys have

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<v Speaker 1>to try it. It is a least this isn't a

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<v Speaker 1>food combination. But we got sent MAXI bonds the other day,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like you were either a biscuit first

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<v Speaker 1>or a chocolate and ice cream first, and I judge

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<v Speaker 1>people on which one they chose, trying to think.

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<v Speaker 2>What I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I eat the chocolate bit first because you hold it

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<v Speaker 1>with the biscuit really well. I was just aged because

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<v Speaker 1>my husband told me that he actually likes the chocolate

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<v Speaker 1>side the best. I like the biscuit. I would prefer

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<v Speaker 1>if the whole thing was just made of biscuits. I

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<v Speaker 1>like both because the biscuit can sometimes get a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit soggy, I think if it's melted too much. Another

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<v Speaker 1>weird food combo I heard the other day from my

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<v Speaker 1>mother in law is that she grew up eating sugar

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<v Speaker 1>and apple sandwiches.

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<v Speaker 2>Hang on, do you mean stewed apples?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, my understanding is that she meant slices of apple

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<v Speaker 1>that had sugar sprinkled on them. Remember our dad used

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<v Speaker 1>to go to school with sugar sandwiches. That was a

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<v Speaker 1>huge thing back in the day. So it was it's

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<v Speaker 1>like hundreds of thousands. Gotta be bloody easy to pack

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<v Speaker 1>that duram of the controversy. I think It was probably

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<v Speaker 1>like six months ago now when we spoke about that

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<v Speaker 1>influencer Mum who froze her sandwiches. Yeah yeah, pissed off

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people talking about that. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know our listeners crazy food combos though. We will put

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<v Speaker 1>up a question box on Instagram send yours in and

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<v Speaker 1>it would be fun to try some.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just working from home today and I found the

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<v Speaker 2>hot past funds in Visco. That's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Sammy Robinson has a new man in her life. The

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<v Speaker 1>fashion designer's new influencer bow soft launch the blossoming romance

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<v Speaker 1>on his Instagram that this wasn't your typical soft launch. No,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't just casually post Sammy in the background of

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<v Speaker 1>an Instagram story or in a photo dump. He made

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<v Speaker 1>a cryptic or not so cryptic real about her. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The new guy in question is a fitness influencer called

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Cameron, and all I could think about is the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that they pretty much have the same name, Sam

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<v Speaker 1>and Sammy. This is another influencer couple with matching names.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's the other matching one.

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<v Speaker 1>Sophie Kasha and Sophie vander Hoo will remember they have

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<v Speaker 1>the same name.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I suppose.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, at least with Sammy, she's Sammy and he

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<v Speaker 1>can be sam or Samantha and Samuel. I would hate

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<v Speaker 1>to date someone with the same name as me. It

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<v Speaker 1>reminds me a bit of a conversation we're having the other

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<v Speaker 1>day about certain names that you just don't like, and

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<v Speaker 1>that makes you think differently about a person they hate

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<v Speaker 1>the name. I'm sorry if anyone's partner or anyone listening

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<v Speaker 1>has his name Tristan, and it is because one boy

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<v Speaker 1>at school who won't go into it, he had the name.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, when someone puts you off from primary,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of names like that that you just

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<v Speaker 1>have to when you're coming up with a baby name,

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<v Speaker 1>cross them off. I think when it comes to partners, though,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit different because it's not like you're

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<v Speaker 1>actually choosing the name. And I think we can all

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<v Speaker 1>sit here and go I'd never dated Tristan, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if some hot guy that got on really well with

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<v Speaker 1>was called that, you probably would turn a blind eye.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a new association, don't you remember. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you went on a date with a guy called Dwayne

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<v Speaker 1>and there was just something about that name.

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<v Speaker 2>And instant turn off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there was another guy I dated briefly called Darren,

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<v Speaker 1>and again I was like, I don't know if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>feeling the name. Yeah, it's Aaron and Dwayne. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>bit like when you're deciding on children's names too, Like

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<v Speaker 1>some names sound really cute as a baby, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, I'm dating a guy called Bear and

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<v Speaker 1>he's in his thirties, I don't know does it work.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting back to the two SAMs, it's quite interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>Sam used to work as a full time industrial electrician

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<v Speaker 1>until he quit his job two years ago to pursue

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<v Speaker 1>a career in content creation. So he launched an online coaching.

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<v Speaker 2>Platform, red Flag.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, he's this really buff fitness guy. He now

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<v Speaker 1>has over forty seven thousand followers, and last week is

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<v Speaker 1>when he did this soft launch. So he uploaded a

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<v Speaker 1>real of him walking into frame wearing just orange and

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<v Speaker 1>yellow speedo blag. Again, he was showing off his six pack,

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<v Speaker 1>and over the top of this vision, the caption said,

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<v Speaker 1>working hard so that my future wife can run her

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<v Speaker 1>successful clothing company. And I don't feel insecure for not

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<v Speaker 1>being able to equally financially provide for our found I

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<v Speaker 1>don't mean to be that person, but what work was

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<v Speaker 1>he actually doing in the real other than looking hot? Well? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was very confusing because underneath one person wrote, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't get it. How is walking out of your unit

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<v Speaker 1>in Speedo's helping your future wife? Did I miss something?

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<v Speaker 1>Because maybe if he had shown himself training a group

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<v Speaker 1>of people or actually working, it would have made sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, is this just an excuse to get

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<v Speaker 1>your budget smuggles out? I'm staying hot so I can

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<v Speaker 1>get followers on Instagram?

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<v Speaker 2>You continue this life? Maybe he means working hard, like

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<v Speaker 2>working out.

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<v Speaker 1>It made no sense, and immediately super Sluice we like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this must be about Sammy Robinson. Obviously she's got her

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<v Speaker 1>clothing brand one Mile, and over the past few weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>Sam has actually popped up in Sammy's photo dumps. So

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<v Speaker 1>in one photo she had Sam in the background of

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<v Speaker 1>a photo of her in one of her friends, and

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<v Speaker 1>then in another he was sitting next to her at

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<v Speaker 1>the beach, again with another group of friends. So it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't completely obvious, and it didn't take long for Sam's

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<v Speaker 1>friends to weigh in and drop further clues. One friend wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>keep grinding. One mile at a time, bro referring to

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<v Speaker 1>Sammy's brand one mile, while another said one mile closer

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<v Speaker 1>each time.

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<v Speaker 2>Another joke.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a fairly vague post, broke, can you elaborate please,

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<v Speaker 1>and others excitedly asked.

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<v Speaker 2>If it was a soft launch.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder how Sammy felt about that, because it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of comes across as he's using her for cloud. It

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<v Speaker 1>comes across as very strong to call someone your future wife.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I know, it's a bit of a joke, but

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<v Speaker 1>it almost makes you think, oh, using her for the hour,

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<v Speaker 1>for the money. I mean, I was joking about it before,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are far too many red flags here. The

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he is saying, you know, love bobbing her,

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<v Speaker 1>essentially saying my future wife, and then ultimately using her

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<v Speaker 1>for clout and engagement. I know this sam guy already

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<v Speaker 1>has a bit of a following, but do you think

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty five that people can actually build and

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<v Speaker 1>influencer career off the back of dating somebody. No. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's oversaturated now because look at Matt Sakowski. He

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<v Speaker 1>is dating Tammy Hembro, who was one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>followed people in Australia. I think she's got over like

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen or seventeen million followers. He's sitting at around one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty thousand. It hasn't gone up much, just

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<v Speaker 1>what he was on when he was on Love Island,

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<v Speaker 1>like that hasn't come from her. And then you've got

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<v Speaker 1>Saffron Barker, the UK influencer who has been splashing her

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<v Speaker 1>new boyfriend everywhere. He's this gorgeous model. You think that

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<v Speaker 1>her followers would want to, you know, see what he's

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<v Speaker 1>up to, and he's only sitting around like the ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand came because if you think back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, when Jonathan Sower started dating Shany Grimmin, he

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<v Speaker 1>was inundated with followers. Like his proximity to Shani made

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<v Speaker 1>him an influencer. He was able to quit his job.

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<v Speaker 1>But you don't see this happening as much, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>lost all of them, even though he's dating Madison Woolly,

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<v Speaker 1>who apparently has nearly seven hundred thousand followers. I'm that

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<v Speaker 1>loser though that does follow people's boyfriends. I immediately went

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<v Speaker 1>and followed Sammy's boyfriend, but then I saw he was

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<v Speaker 1>sharing a lot of that motivational like fitness content that

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I kind of didn't want to popping

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<v Speaker 1>up for my husband seeing it because it was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of as we say, like him walking around in

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<v Speaker 1>speedo's with his top off. I was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if I want what's his head? Well, but this

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<v Speaker 1>guy is definitely a bit of Sammy. So he's tall, dark,

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<v Speaker 1>and he appears to have a New Zealand accent. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very much her recent type, isn't it. He is very

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<v Speaker 1>much her type.

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<v Speaker 2>They look really good together.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to see where this goes. But she hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>had much luck with relationships, which is why I think

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<v Speaker 1>she leaves some offline. So the fact that he's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to now get engagement offer or I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to last. Nothing more unattractive than a guy being

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<v Speaker 1>really big on socials, you know, like, let her post

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<v Speaker 1>a couple photo of you first, before you're looking so

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<v Speaker 1>thirsty that you're trying to drop it. I didn't like

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<v Speaker 1>any guys that are listening to this single. People want

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<v Speaker 1>to see more than the photo of you and a

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<v Speaker 1>fish from ten years ago, but not too much where

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<v Speaker 1>you seem too keen those speedo videos. I think maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of posts each year and that's it, well,

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<v Speaker 1>unless you're trying to become an influencer, But that in

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<v Speaker 1>itself is a bit of a nick.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been having a lot of thoughts recently about baby

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<v Speaker 3>number two and more babies, and I get asked when

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<v Speaker 3>I put those question boxes up. That's like one another

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<v Speaker 3>huge thing that like always gets asked about, is say,

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<v Speaker 3>babe number two, what's your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>As we add closer to the release date of part

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<v Speaker 1>two of Molly May's tell or docco, rumors she's reconciled

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<v Speaker 1>with her former fiance Tommy Fury are getting stronger. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because this time they have been caught out enjoying a

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<v Speaker 1>romantic weekend away at the river with their daughter Bambi.

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<v Speaker 1>So last Wednesday, Molly shared a foe dump which she

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<v Speaker 1>titled the Favorites Album, and amongst the photos there was

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of her rugged up sitting next to the

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<v Speaker 1>river drinking a cup of tea. Now, on Monday, Tommy

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<v Speaker 1>shared his own photo dump with the caption life's been

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<v Speaker 1>looking up with a love heart emoji. And I saw

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<v Speaker 1>in the comment section Everyone's like, yeah, of course, looking up.

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<v Speaker 1>Molly May's taking you back now. Within this photo dump,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a picture of him sitting beside a very

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<v Speaker 1>similar looking river on a boat wearing a life jacket.

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<v Speaker 1>And if this wasn't enough of a clue, Molly previously

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<v Speaker 1>had posted a photo to her Instagram story of her

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<v Speaker 1>wearing an identical life jacket. Yes, it was very clear

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<v Speaker 1>that they have spent the weekend together. Molly seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>be really gushing about what a wonderful weekend was because

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<v Speaker 1>she subsequently shared a photo of Bamby sitting in the

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<v Speaker 1>car with the caption weekends like the one we just had,

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't ask for anything more. They really have been gradually

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<v Speaker 1>dropping hints and I think it is all gearing up

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<v Speaker 1>to the big review on Molly's documentary, which is set

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<v Speaker 1>to be released in spring. Well. I saw a recent

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<v Speaker 1>vlog that Molly put up and she doesn't even appear

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<v Speaker 1>to know the air date yet. She said they're still

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<v Speaker 1>filming at the moment. If these rumors are true, though,

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<v Speaker 1>it appears that the Prime Video crew have been capturing

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<v Speaker 1>this reunion for us, because it was reported last month

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<v Speaker 1>that the film crew captured their Valentine's Day getaway which

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<v Speaker 1>was out of matter and the couple have stayed there before.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of Molly's favorite getaways. I mean, why else

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<v Speaker 1>would she be there on Valentine's. Yeah, Well, it was

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<v Speaker 1>quite interesting because in this recent vog of Molly's, she

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<v Speaker 1>also spoke about the possibility of having a second series

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<v Speaker 1>of her documentary. So I suppose it wouldn't be so

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<v Speaker 1>much of a documentary. She said it would be more

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<v Speaker 1>of a reality show, and she was about their wedding. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>she was basically asking her audience, is this something you'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to see? Because she was concerned that maybe if

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<v Speaker 1>she did another series that people would lose interest and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they wouldn't watch her YouTube videos anymore. And she

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<v Speaker 1>said that the only way she would do a second

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<v Speaker 1>series was if it made sense and there was some

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<v Speaker 1>form of storyline. She's like, people don't want to see

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<v Speaker 1>me sitting around with Bamby, And I thought the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet if there's a wedding on the cards, we

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<v Speaker 1>will see series two of this. Also, just having the

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<v Speaker 1>two of them together on camera adds a new element

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<v Speaker 1>to it. I think that's what the series is missing

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<v Speaker 1>currently now. Molly stoked the flames even further in a

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<v Speaker 1>Q and A that she uploaded to YouTube on Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>She was really upbeat in this video, and she even

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<v Speaker 1>commented that her happiness levels have been spiking recently. There

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<v Speaker 1>is so much breadcrumbing going on. She went on to say,

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<v Speaker 1>there's been a crazy amount of ups and downs over

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<v Speaker 1>the last year, but currently I'm feeling really, really happy

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<v Speaker 1>and the glimmers of my true old self are coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt genuinely happy for Molly when I saw her

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<v Speaker 1>acting like this. I know some people were saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a publicity stunt, but as we've discussed previously,

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<v Speaker 1>I do not believe this is enough. It is for

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, in a very bold move. In this Q

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<v Speaker 1>and A, Molly answered a followers question about when she

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<v Speaker 1>plans to have a second baby, which sod the fire

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<v Speaker 1>even more.

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<v Speaker 2>This was surprised, she touched it. Yeah, this is what

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<v Speaker 2>she said.

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<v Speaker 3>Not really in a position right now to sit here

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<v Speaker 3>and talk about baby number two and like more babies,

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<v Speaker 3>like after the last year that my relationship has gone through.

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<v Speaker 3>But like, besides all of that, and like if you

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<v Speaker 3>take the relationship and like me and Tommy like out

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<v Speaker 3>of it for a second, Like I think a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot a lot about baby number two and more

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<v Speaker 3>babies and like thoughts and feelings in regards to it

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<v Speaker 3>and me and my best friend Taylor, we talk about

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<v Speaker 3>it all of the time, and like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's something that like I do want to

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<v Speaker 3>speak out a little bit because I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 3>another thing that's in my mind all the time, just

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<v Speaker 3>like circulating, Like how am I meant to feel about it?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I do worry that sometimes how I do feel

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<v Speaker 3>about it isn't like how I view I should feel

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<v Speaker 3>about it, if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>She went on to say that she found the newborn

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<v Speaker 1>stage unbelievably difficult, but joke that she would happily handle

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred two year olds like Ben, but if she

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<v Speaker 1>could skip the newborn stage, not what you want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear as an expectant moment waiting for that. It's quite

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<v Speaker 1>interesting because I remember when Tommy and Molly were still together.

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<v Speaker 1>That was when Molly was saying, maybe that this is it,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we will only have one baby. But it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>now that you know, maybe she's trying to get Tommy

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<v Speaker 1>back or vice versa, that she's open to having more kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's because Bambi's at an age where Molly's

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<v Speaker 1>really enjoying. Yeahound that. But for Tommy, clearly he wants

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he said he'd have ten kids with her

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<v Speaker 1>if he wanted to. I just worry that you've broken up.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's obviously issues with alcohol and then a

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<v Speaker 1>patch over it isn't having another child. Well, the reason

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<v Speaker 1>she said she potentially wanted a second child was she

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<v Speaker 1>wants Bamby to have a sister because she has a

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<v Speaker 1>very special relationship with her sister Zoe. And she said

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing that makes her feel really bad, like

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<v Speaker 1>she would hate for Bambi not to have that special relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>What a weird thing to talk about when you're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be broken up with your partner. Even the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that she was referring in this Q and A to

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<v Speaker 1>my relationship is a clear sign that they're back together,

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<v Speaker 1>Because wouldn't you say my past relationship or shut it

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<v Speaker 1>down and say that you're single and it's not something

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<v Speaker 1>that you're thinking about. Yeah, this doesn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like soft launching this relationship. Unrelated did you also

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<v Speaker 1>see this week that Molly had to update her passport

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<v Speaker 1>photo so she has had the same passport photo for

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<v Speaker 1>the last ten years. But when I heard this.

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<v Speaker 2>It shocked me.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, yeah, the last photo that was taken

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<v Speaker 1>was when I was fifteen. It blew my mind because, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>She's only twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel like you're not allowed to actually travel

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<v Speaker 1>on a photo of you as a child. No, if

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<v Speaker 1>you think back to yeah, I thought maybe as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as you turned eighteen, even if you had to get

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<v Speaker 1>update the photo or something, well, she still looked older

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<v Speaker 1>than fifteen in the photo. Some people look drastically young

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<v Speaker 1>at fifteen, like when I was I don't think when

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<v Speaker 1>I was twenty five. I was traveling with my passport

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<v Speaker 1>from when I was fifteen. It depends when you renewed

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<v Speaker 1>your passport or when you got it. It reminds me

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<v Speaker 1>of im patsy On absolutely fabulous when she has that

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<v Speaker 1>passport photo from her twenties and she's like, fifty tickets

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<v Speaker 1>to passport's piece. This is just want to know who take.

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<v Speaker 1>Kiara Doro has accused her former podcast host Ash Binds

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<v Speaker 1>of owing her money. The revelation came as the Mummy

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<v Speaker 1>blogger revealed she's contemplating uploading a tell all YouTube about

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<v Speaker 1>the saga. This drama just keeps on going. We have

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<v Speaker 1>been covering this story in depth since November. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>not all across it, go back and listen to some

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<v Speaker 1>of the episodes. But from a top line level, Kiara

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<v Speaker 1>and Ashy have been feuding ever since Kiara left their

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<v Speaker 1>podcast and ash rebranded and got a new co host.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah So. This week, Kiara dished some more dirt during

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<v Speaker 1>a recent Instagram Q and a so, a follower asked

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<v Speaker 1>her if she was going to do a YouTube tell

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<v Speaker 1>all like she originally promised. Now, Kiara revealed that while

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<v Speaker 1>she had pulled the pin on doing it, she now

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<v Speaker 1>has mixed emotions.

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<v Speaker 2>She wrote, I keep trying.

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<v Speaker 1>To give the other person the benefit of the doubt,

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<v Speaker 1>but behind the scenes it is being made very difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been left to look after a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>mess and cleaning everything up myself, ending the business, closing accounts,

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<v Speaker 1>paying bills, etc. Because I don't want to get myself

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<v Speaker 1>in any trouble. She then wanted to say that she

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<v Speaker 1>is still owed payments from October and complain that it's

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<v Speaker 1>been difficult to move on from her business relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>Ashi when she won't help finalize things she wanted to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I also really pride myself in honesty and authenticity, so

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<v Speaker 1>then throw on the flat out liars being told just

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<v Speaker 1>makes me so angry. I'm a human being, so of

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<v Speaker 1>course I have moments of big emotions and feeling like

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go off low, especially when I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to move on. But things keep popping up, whether that

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<v Speaker 1>be liars told on another episode or bank situations I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to fix. I wonder if this situation has been

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<v Speaker 1>taken to Ash's legal team yet. I mean, there's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>big to accuse someone of owing you money. I just think,

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<v Speaker 1>as we've touched on Tuesday, people are getting sick of this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of just weighing into the weeds and getting

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<v Speaker 1>very petty. I totally feel for Kiara though, if she

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<v Speaker 1>is owed a large sum of money, and it's very

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<v Speaker 1>difficult if someone won't play the game.

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<v Speaker 2>And get back to you.

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<v Speaker 1>These are all allegations, though we don't actually know whether

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<v Speaker 1>this is true. But I do think this needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be taken offline, yeah, because you know, we don't really

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<v Speaker 1>need the court of public opinion on this. As people said,

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<v Speaker 1>they're already aware of the relationship breakdown. People have made

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<v Speaker 1>up their minds about it. I don't think it's helping

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<v Speaker 1>going into the weeds even further, I wanted to wait

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<v Speaker 1>until the podcast to release this information because it's just

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<v Speaker 1>so sad, sick and fucked up, and I just am

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<v Speaker 1>afraid that you guys aren't ready to hear something like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Mikayla Tester's former manager, Alisha McKenzie made a bold statement

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<v Speaker 1>this week. She was spotted dining at Nobu in Malibu

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<v Speaker 1>with none other than Mikayla's former friend Karina Koff. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I say spotted, but it was Karina who wanted everyone

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<v Speaker 1>to know about it, posting their spread of sushi to

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<v Speaker 1>her Instagram story and also tagging Alisha.

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<v Speaker 2>Now to put this all.

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<v Speaker 1>Into perspective, it was just a couple of weeks ago

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<v Speaker 1>when Karina Kough publicly accused Mikhayla Tester of lying about

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<v Speaker 1>the Paul family in a brutal Instagram takedown. Karina labeled

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<v Speaker 1>Mikayla as a pathological liar as well as a narcissist

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<v Speaker 1>and manipulative. She went on to say, ask anyone who

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<v Speaker 1>has ever come into contact with her, and I promise

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<v Speaker 1>you they will say the exact same thing. Since I

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<v Speaker 1>met her two years ago, she has not had one

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<v Speaker 1>consistent person in her life. Every single person has come

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<v Speaker 1>and gone. It's everyone else who is the fucked up friend,

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<v Speaker 1>who is the common denominator here.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I feel like this is a.

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<v Speaker 1>New thing to get back at your former bestie because

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<v Speaker 1>back in November, a bunch of Ashy Bindes's former best

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<v Speaker 1>friends shared that they were catching up over dinner. It's

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<v Speaker 1>literally code for we are gossiping about you and want

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<v Speaker 1>everyone on the internet to know about it. To be fair,

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<v Speaker 1>I could imagine pulling this move in my early twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, when you be immature and you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this will be so funny. We'll get back at them

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<v Speaker 1>this way. But as a thirty, well someone in their

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<v Speaker 1>mid thirties looking at this, it's a bit pathetic. I

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<v Speaker 1>stop doing that. I actually like it because you say

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<v Speaker 1>so much without saying anything. Because what is happening here

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<v Speaker 1>is people are like, oh, hang on, is there a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of truth to what Karina coughs saying? Because

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<v Speaker 1>why would her manager and former best friend suddenly be

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<v Speaker 1>dining with her? So this Alisha, I remember she got

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<v Speaker 1>invited to a White Fox boutique trip I think when

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<v Speaker 1>Coachella was on and Mikayla was supposed to go with her,

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<v Speaker 1>but she couldn't get into the country. She had all

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<v Speaker 1>of that ordeal, she couldn't get through security and she

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<v Speaker 1>ended up being taken back to Australia. And from what

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<v Speaker 1>I remember at the time, it seemed like Michayla would

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<v Speaker 1>spend a lot of money on Alisha and buy her

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of gifts, and I got the vibe. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>Alicia seems to be taking a lot from this relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>So I do question whether it's an instance where maybe

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<v Speaker 1>when you're an influencer and you've got money, there are

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<v Speaker 1>some friends that are out to use you. So maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say necessarily that Michayla is the common denominator here. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't really know what's gone on behind the scenes there,

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<v Speaker 1>But in terms of that trip, Alisha was traveling with

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<v Speaker 1>Mikayla as her manager, and then she continued on to

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<v Speaker 1>the US and actually took Mikayla's spot on that trip. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed like she almost wanted to be a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of an influencer herself because she kept appearing in the videos,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know how there's always so much competition between

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<v Speaker 1>jen Zetas and millennials. I actually think this is a

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<v Speaker 1>very millennial thing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I want to know what's happened because this

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<v Speaker 1>falling out must have been pretty recent because Alisha was

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<v Speaker 1>actually listed as Mikayla's co host and upcoming podcast series

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<v Speaker 1>about her relationship with the Paul family. So something has

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<v Speaker 1>clearly happened in the last couple of weeks. So her

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<v Speaker 1>name has now been removed from that podcast. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to see Anna Paul out dining with them soon.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that will happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was gonna say, the Pauls must be loving

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<v Speaker 1>all of this, because it's not painting Mikayla in the

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<v Speaker 1>best line. I sadly think it's a matter of time

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<v Speaker 1>before the Internet just turns on Mikayla Tester and everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>pro unapolled. We spoke about this a little bit when

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about As She Binds and all her dramas,

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<v Speaker 1>that it becomes a point where people shared too much

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<v Speaker 1>online and it really muddies the water. Well, people are like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get over it. By she don't think that that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen in this instance. I disagree. I think

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<v Speaker 1>once we hear more of what Mikayla went through in

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<v Speaker 1>her relationship with Addis Paul, she's already made some very

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<v Speaker 1>serious allegations about him. I think that people are going

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<v Speaker 1>to one hundred percent side with Mikayla. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at Anna Paul's comment section, it is brutal

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment. I think the fact that the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>has been delayed for quite a number of weeks since

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<v Speaker 1>all of this went down isn't helping Mikayla out though,

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<v Speaker 1>because originally she said, oh, the podcast is launching next week,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's probably been I don't know, like a month

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<v Speaker 1>since all that drama hits. So I think that she

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<v Speaker 1>needed to capitalize on the attention because people get to

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<v Speaker 1>a point on the internet where they're like, I'm over this,

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<v Speaker 1>this is boring, just shut up. Well, she did drop

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<v Speaker 1>about Anna Paul's treatment or alleged treatment of her birds, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think breadcrumbing there. Yeah, so there's been a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of bread crumbing. But as you say, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want it to be a point where people are I'll

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<v Speaker 1>get over it. And move on like particularly because she

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<v Speaker 1>is engaged to someone else. Now, well that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Where we're going to leave things today.

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