Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Speaker 1: Sophie Torba and coming up on today's show, Sammy Robinson
Speaker 1: has a new man in her life, Mikayla Tester's former
Speaker 1: manager's bold statement, and Molly May talks about baby number two.
Speaker 1: But first, entrepreneur Michelle Battersby has revealed the very unorthodox
Speaker 1: way that she eats a meat pie. The Sunroom founder
Speaker 1: coursed to Stir online, revealing she's been eating it this.
Speaker 2: Way her whole life.
Speaker 1: I haven't actually eaten a meat pie since our so
Speaker 1: teacher told us in year eleven what's in them?
Speaker 2: But this almost made me want to test it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in that same classroom and he said
Speaker 1: that there's assholes and hoofs of the cows in there
Speaker 1: and the fetus.
Speaker 2: That is what really put me off.
Speaker 1: I saw a TikTok the other day and someone found
Speaker 1: what looked like an asshole in a very cheaply made pie.
Speaker 1: I mean, this whole conversation isn't meant to be putting
Speaker 1: people off eating pies, because when Michelle ate this pie,
Speaker 1: it actually looks so delicious. So what she does is
Speaker 1: she firstly takes the lid off the pie and eats that,
Speaker 1: so the pastry lid, and I think there's something to
Speaker 1: be said for people who actually eat their pies like that.
Speaker 1: I remember growing up it would always be a particular
Speaker 1: girl that was quite a perfectionist, that would have been
Speaker 1: able to pull the lid off perfectly and then eat
Speaker 1: all the feeling. I'd've heard of people peeling the sausage
Speaker 1: roll and eating the pastry first, and then the sausage bit,
Speaker 1: which looks absolutely revolting. I'm sorry, that doesn't sound advertising
Speaker 1: to me. I want to get the pastry in, okay
Speaker 1: with the mixture.
Speaker 2: If you got to wait.
Speaker 1: So anyway, she eats the lid first, and then she
Speaker 1: puts tomato sauce on the meat, and she eats all
Speaker 1: of the meat by itself with a fork some yah.
Speaker 1: But then she leaves a little bit of the meat
Speaker 1: in the bottom of the pie. And then she gets
Speaker 1: a bag of light and tangy chips, crushes them up,
Speaker 1: puts it in the pie, and then eats it as
Speaker 1: if it's like its own taco. Wow. I mean, she's
Speaker 1: actually one way over with the light and tangy chips.
Speaker 1: I feel like light and tangy chips are a blast
Speaker 1: from the past, aren't they the chip that you'd have
Speaker 1: growing up as a TI Yeah. It was a bit
Speaker 1: of a random chip though, because people who make chip
Speaker 1: sandwiches I often find they'll use just an original plane plane.
Speaker 1: Driving back in the day when Thins used to sell
Speaker 1: that multi family pack and one bag would be light
Speaker 1: and tanging, the other one would be plain, you'd always
Speaker 1: go for the light and tangy first. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: gonna be flashbacks, and you'd get the tazo. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: also I remember the bag was mostly full of air.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You have any of them?
Speaker 1: This hack actually reminds me of one of our family traditions,
Speaker 1: which I grew up thinking was completely normal.
Speaker 2: So it's vanilla ice cream with plane chips.
Speaker 1: And they have to be plane chips. They can't be
Speaker 1: a different flavor because it's the salty and the sweet
Speaker 1: that goes together. I was talking about this combo with
Speaker 1: my husband yesterday and his family and they were like,
Speaker 1: that is so weird, and I'm like, you guys have
Speaker 1: to try it. It is a least this isn't a
Speaker 1: food combination. But we got sent MAXI bonds the other day,
Speaker 1: and I feel like you were either a biscuit first
Speaker 1: or a chocolate and ice cream first, and I judge
Speaker 1: people on which one they chose, trying to think.
Speaker 2: What I think.
Speaker 1: I eat the chocolate bit first because you hold it
Speaker 1: with the biscuit really well. I was just aged because
Speaker 1: my husband told me that he actually likes the chocolate
Speaker 1: side the best. I like the biscuit. I would prefer
Speaker 1: if the whole thing was just made of biscuits. I
Speaker 1: like both because the biscuit can sometimes get a little
Speaker 1: bit soggy, I think if it's melted too much. Another
Speaker 1: weird food combo I heard the other day from my
Speaker 1: mother in law is that she grew up eating sugar
Speaker 1: and apple sandwiches.
Speaker 2: Hang on, do you mean stewed apples?
Speaker 1: Well, my understanding is that she meant slices of apple
Speaker 1: that had sugar sprinkled on them. Remember our dad used
Speaker 1: to go to school with sugar sandwiches. That was a
Speaker 1: huge thing back in the day. So it was it's
Speaker 1: like hundreds of thousands. Gotta be bloody easy to pack
Speaker 1: that duram of the controversy. I think It was probably
Speaker 1: like six months ago now when we spoke about that
Speaker 1: influencer Mum who froze her sandwiches. Yeah yeah, pissed off
Speaker 1: a lot of people talking about that. I want to
Speaker 1: know our listeners crazy food combos though. We will put
Speaker 1: up a question box on Instagram send yours in and
Speaker 1: it would be fun to try some.
Speaker 2: I'm just working from home today and I found the
Speaker 2: hot past funds in Visco. That's so good.
Speaker 1: Sammy Robinson has a new man in her life. The
Speaker 1: fashion designer's new influencer bow soft launch the blossoming romance
Speaker 1: on his Instagram that this wasn't your typical soft launch. No,
Speaker 1: he didn't just casually post Sammy in the background of
Speaker 1: an Instagram story or in a photo dump. He made
Speaker 1: a cryptic or not so cryptic real about her. Now.
Speaker 1: The new guy in question is a fitness influencer called
Speaker 1: Sam Cameron, and all I could think about is the
Speaker 1: fact that they pretty much have the same name, Sam
Speaker 1: and Sammy. This is another influencer couple with matching names.
Speaker 2: Who's the other matching one.
Speaker 1: Sophie Kasha and Sophie vander Hoo will remember they have
Speaker 1: the same name.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I suppose.
Speaker 1: I mean, at least with Sammy, she's Sammy and he
Speaker 1: can be sam or Samantha and Samuel. I would hate
Speaker 1: to date someone with the same name as me. It
Speaker 1: reminds me a bit of a conversation we're having the other
Speaker 1: day about certain names that you just don't like, and
Speaker 1: that makes you think differently about a person they hate
Speaker 1: the name. I'm sorry if anyone's partner or anyone listening
Speaker 1: has his name Tristan, and it is because one boy
Speaker 1: at school who won't go into it, he had the name.
Speaker 1: And you know, when someone puts you off from primary,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of names like that that you just
Speaker 1: have to when you're coming up with a baby name,
Speaker 1: cross them off. I think when it comes to partners, though,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit different because it's not like you're
Speaker 1: actually choosing the name. And I think we can all
Speaker 1: sit here and go I'd never dated Tristan, but I mean,
Speaker 1: if some hot guy that got on really well with
Speaker 1: was called that, you probably would turn a blind eye.
Speaker 1: We had a new association, don't you remember. So if
Speaker 1: you went on a date with a guy called Dwayne
Speaker 1: and there was just something about that name.
Speaker 2: And instant turn off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was another guy I dated briefly called Darren,
Speaker 1: and again I was like, I don't know if I'm
Speaker 1: feeling the name. Yeah, it's Aaron and Dwayne. It's a
Speaker 1: bit like when you're deciding on children's names too, Like
Speaker 1: some names sound really cute as a baby, but if
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I'm dating a guy called Bear and
Speaker 1: he's in his thirties, I don't know does it work.
Speaker 1: Getting back to the two SAMs, it's quite interesting because
Speaker 1: Sam used to work as a full time industrial electrician
Speaker 1: until he quit his job two years ago to pursue
Speaker 1: a career in content creation. So he launched an online coaching.
Speaker 2: Platform, red Flag.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he's this really buff fitness guy. He now
Speaker 1: has over forty seven thousand followers, and last week is
Speaker 1: when he did this soft launch. So he uploaded a
Speaker 1: real of him walking into frame wearing just orange and
Speaker 1: yellow speedo blag. Again, he was showing off his six pack,
Speaker 1: and over the top of this vision, the caption said,
Speaker 1: working hard so that my future wife can run her
Speaker 1: successful clothing company. And I don't feel insecure for not
Speaker 1: being able to equally financially provide for our found I
Speaker 1: don't mean to be that person, but what work was
Speaker 1: he actually doing in the real other than looking hot? Well? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was very confusing because underneath one person wrote, I
Speaker 1: don't get it. How is walking out of your unit
Speaker 1: in Speedo's helping your future wife? Did I miss something?
Speaker 1: Because maybe if he had shown himself training a group
Speaker 1: of people or actually working, it would have made sense.
Speaker 1: I was like, is this just an excuse to get
Speaker 1: your budget smuggles out? I'm staying hot so I can
Speaker 1: get followers on Instagram?
Speaker 2: You continue this life? Maybe he means working hard, like
Speaker 2: working out.
Speaker 1: It made no sense, and immediately super Sluice we like, well,
Speaker 1: this must be about Sammy Robinson. Obviously she's got her
Speaker 1: clothing brand one Mile, and over the past few weeks,
Speaker 1: Sam has actually popped up in Sammy's photo dumps. So
Speaker 1: in one photo she had Sam in the background of
Speaker 1: a photo of her in one of her friends, and
Speaker 1: then in another he was sitting next to her at
Speaker 1: the beach, again with another group of friends. So it
Speaker 1: wasn't completely obvious, and it didn't take long for Sam's
Speaker 1: friends to weigh in and drop further clues. One friend wrote,
Speaker 1: keep grinding. One mile at a time, bro referring to
Speaker 1: Sammy's brand one mile, while another said one mile closer
Speaker 1: each time.
Speaker 2: Another joke.
Speaker 1: This is a fairly vague post, broke, can you elaborate please,
Speaker 1: and others excitedly asked.
Speaker 2: If it was a soft launch.
Speaker 1: I wonder how Sammy felt about that, because it kind
Speaker 1: of comes across as he's using her for cloud. It
Speaker 1: comes across as very strong to call someone your future wife.
Speaker 1: Like I know, it's a bit of a joke, but
Speaker 1: it almost makes you think, oh, using her for the hour,
Speaker 1: for the money. I mean, I was joking about it before,
Speaker 1: but there are far too many red flags here. The
Speaker 1: fact that he is saying, you know, love bobbing her,
Speaker 1: essentially saying my future wife, and then ultimately using her
Speaker 1: for clout and engagement. I know this sam guy already
Speaker 1: has a bit of a following, but do you think
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five that people can actually build and
Speaker 1: influencer career off the back of dating somebody. No. I
Speaker 1: think it's oversaturated now because look at Matt Sakowski. He
Speaker 1: is dating Tammy Hembro, who was one of the most
Speaker 1: followed people in Australia. I think she's got over like
Speaker 1: sixteen or seventeen million followers. He's sitting at around one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand. It hasn't gone up much, just
Speaker 1: what he was on when he was on Love Island,
Speaker 1: like that hasn't come from her. And then you've got
Speaker 1: Saffron Barker, the UK influencer who has been splashing her
Speaker 1: new boyfriend everywhere. He's this gorgeous model. You think that
Speaker 1: her followers would want to, you know, see what he's
Speaker 1: up to, and he's only sitting around like the ten
Speaker 1: thousand came because if you think back in the day,
Speaker 1: for example, when Jonathan Sower started dating Shany Grimmin, he
Speaker 1: was inundated with followers. Like his proximity to Shani made
Speaker 1: him an influencer. He was able to quit his job.
Speaker 1: But you don't see this happening as much, and he's
Speaker 1: lost all of them, even though he's dating Madison Woolly,
Speaker 1: who apparently has nearly seven hundred thousand followers. I'm that
Speaker 1: loser though that does follow people's boyfriends. I immediately went
Speaker 1: and followed Sammy's boyfriend, but then I saw he was
Speaker 1: sharing a lot of that motivational like fitness content that
Speaker 1: I was like, I kind of didn't want to popping
Speaker 1: up for my husband seeing it because it was a
Speaker 1: lot of as we say, like him walking around in
Speaker 1: speedo's with his top off. I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if I want what's his head? Well, but this
Speaker 1: guy is definitely a bit of Sammy. So he's tall, dark,
Speaker 1: and he appears to have a New Zealand accent. It's
Speaker 1: very much her recent type, isn't it. He is very
Speaker 1: much her type.
Speaker 2: They look really good together.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see where this goes. But she hasn't
Speaker 1: had much luck with relationships, which is why I think
Speaker 1: she leaves some offline. So the fact that he's trying
Speaker 1: to now get engagement offer or I don't think it's
Speaker 1: going to last. Nothing more unattractive than a guy being
Speaker 1: really big on socials, you know, like, let her post
Speaker 1: a couple photo of you first, before you're looking so
Speaker 1: thirsty that you're trying to drop it. I didn't like
Speaker 1: any guys that are listening to this single. People want
Speaker 1: to see more than the photo of you and a
Speaker 1: fish from ten years ago, but not too much where
Speaker 1: you seem too keen those speedo videos. I think maybe
Speaker 1: a couple of posts each year and that's it, well,
Speaker 1: unless you're trying to become an influencer, But that in
Speaker 1: itself is a bit of a nick.
Speaker 3: I've been having a lot of thoughts recently about baby
Speaker 3: number two and more babies, and I get asked when
Speaker 3: I put those question boxes up. That's like one another
Speaker 3: huge thing that like always gets asked about, is say,
Speaker 3: babe number two, what's your thoughts.
Speaker 1: As we add closer to the release date of part
Speaker 1: two of Molly May's tell or docco, rumors she's reconciled
Speaker 1: with her former fiance Tommy Fury are getting stronger. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because this time they have been caught out enjoying a
Speaker 1: romantic weekend away at the river with their daughter Bambi.
Speaker 1: So last Wednesday, Molly shared a foe dump which she
Speaker 1: titled the Favorites Album, and amongst the photos there was
Speaker 1: a picture of her rugged up sitting next to the
Speaker 1: river drinking a cup of tea. Now, on Monday, Tommy
Speaker 1: shared his own photo dump with the caption life's been
Speaker 1: looking up with a love heart emoji. And I saw
Speaker 1: in the comment section Everyone's like, yeah, of course, looking up.
Speaker 1: Molly May's taking you back now. Within this photo dump,
Speaker 1: there was a picture of him sitting beside a very
Speaker 1: similar looking river on a boat wearing a life jacket.
Speaker 1: And if this wasn't enough of a clue, Molly previously
Speaker 1: had posted a photo to her Instagram story of her
Speaker 1: wearing an identical life jacket. Yes, it was very clear
Speaker 1: that they have spent the weekend together. Molly seemed to
Speaker 1: be really gushing about what a wonderful weekend was because
Speaker 1: she subsequently shared a photo of Bamby sitting in the
Speaker 1: car with the caption weekends like the one we just had,
Speaker 1: couldn't ask for anything more. They really have been gradually
Speaker 1: dropping hints and I think it is all gearing up
Speaker 1: to the big review on Molly's documentary, which is set
Speaker 1: to be released in spring. Well. I saw a recent
Speaker 1: vlog that Molly put up and she doesn't even appear
Speaker 1: to know the air date yet. She said they're still
Speaker 1: filming at the moment. If these rumors are true, though,
Speaker 1: it appears that the Prime Video crew have been capturing
Speaker 1: this reunion for us, because it was reported last month
Speaker 1: that the film crew captured their Valentine's Day getaway which
Speaker 1: was out of matter and the couple have stayed there before.
Speaker 1: It's one of Molly's favorite getaways. I mean, why else
Speaker 1: would she be there on Valentine's. Yeah, Well, it was
Speaker 1: quite interesting because in this recent vog of Molly's, she
Speaker 1: also spoke about the possibility of having a second series
Speaker 1: of her documentary. So I suppose it wouldn't be so
Speaker 1: much of a documentary. She said it would be more
Speaker 1: of a reality show, and she was about their wedding. Well,
Speaker 1: she was basically asking her audience, is this something you'd
Speaker 1: like to see? Because she was concerned that maybe if
Speaker 1: she did another series that people would lose interest and
Speaker 1: maybe they wouldn't watch her YouTube videos anymore. And she
Speaker 1: said that the only way she would do a second
Speaker 1: series was if it made sense and there was some
Speaker 1: form of storyline. She's like, people don't want to see
Speaker 1: me sitting around with Bamby, And I thought the same thing.
Speaker 1: I bet if there's a wedding on the cards, we
Speaker 1: will see series two of this. Also, just having the
Speaker 1: two of them together on camera adds a new element
Speaker 1: to it. I think that's what the series is missing
Speaker 1: currently now. Molly stoked the flames even further in a
Speaker 1: Q and A that she uploaded to YouTube on Monday.
Speaker 1: She was really upbeat in this video, and she even
Speaker 1: commented that her happiness levels have been spiking recently. There
Speaker 1: is so much breadcrumbing going on. She went on to say,
Speaker 1: there's been a crazy amount of ups and downs over
Speaker 1: the last year, but currently I'm feeling really, really happy
Speaker 1: and the glimmers of my true old self are coming back.
Speaker 1: I felt genuinely happy for Molly when I saw her
Speaker 1: acting like this. I know some people were saying, oh,
Speaker 1: this is a publicity stunt, but as we've discussed previously,
Speaker 1: I do not believe this is enough. It is for
Speaker 1: a minute, in a very bold move. In this Q
Speaker 1: and A, Molly answered a followers question about when she
Speaker 1: plans to have a second baby, which sod the fire
Speaker 1: even more.
Speaker 2: This was surprised, she touched it. Yeah, this is what
Speaker 2: she said.
Speaker 3: Not really in a position right now to sit here
Speaker 3: and talk about baby number two and like more babies,
Speaker 3: like after the last year that my relationship has gone through.
Speaker 3: But like, besides all of that, and like if you
Speaker 3: take the relationship and like me and Tommy like out
Speaker 3: of it for a second, Like I think a lot,
Speaker 3: a lot a lot about baby number two and more
Speaker 3: babies and like thoughts and feelings in regards to it
Speaker 3: and me and my best friend Taylor, we talk about
Speaker 3: it all of the time, and like, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think it's something that like I do want to
Speaker 3: speak out a little bit because I feel like it's
Speaker 3: another thing that's in my mind all the time, just
Speaker 3: like circulating, Like how am I meant to feel about it?
Speaker 3: Because I do worry that sometimes how I do feel
Speaker 3: about it isn't like how I view I should feel
Speaker 3: about it, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: She went on to say that she found the newborn
Speaker 1: stage unbelievably difficult, but joke that she would happily handle
Speaker 1: one hundred two year olds like Ben, but if she
Speaker 1: could skip the newborn stage, not what you want to
Speaker 1: hear as an expectant moment waiting for that. It's quite
Speaker 1: interesting because I remember when Tommy and Molly were still together.
Speaker 1: That was when Molly was saying, maybe that this is it,
Speaker 1: maybe we will only have one baby. But it's interesting
Speaker 1: now that you know, maybe she's trying to get Tommy
Speaker 1: back or vice versa, that she's open to having more kids.
Speaker 1: I think it's because Bambi's at an age where Molly's
Speaker 1: really enjoying. Yeahound that. But for Tommy, clearly he wants
Speaker 1: I mean he said he'd have ten kids with her
Speaker 1: if he wanted to. I just worry that you've broken up.
Speaker 1: You know, there's obviously issues with alcohol and then a
Speaker 1: patch over it isn't having another child. Well, the reason
Speaker 1: she said she potentially wanted a second child was she
Speaker 1: wants Bamby to have a sister because she has a
Speaker 1: very special relationship with her sister Zoe. And she said
Speaker 1: that's the thing that makes her feel really bad, like
Speaker 1: she would hate for Bambi not to have that special relationship.
Speaker 1: What a weird thing to talk about when you're supposed
Speaker 1: to be broken up with your partner. Even the fact
Speaker 1: that she was referring in this Q and A to
Speaker 1: my relationship is a clear sign that they're back together,
Speaker 1: Because wouldn't you say my past relationship or shut it
Speaker 1: down and say that you're single and it's not something
Speaker 1: that you're thinking about. Yeah, this doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: It's like soft launching this relationship. Unrelated did you also
Speaker 1: see this week that Molly had to update her passport
Speaker 1: photo so she has had the same passport photo for
Speaker 1: the last ten years. But when I heard this.
Speaker 2: It shocked me.
Speaker 1: She was like, yeah, the last photo that was taken
Speaker 1: was when I was fifteen. It blew my mind because, oh,
Speaker 1: that's right.
Speaker 2: She's only twenty five.
Speaker 1: But I feel like you're not allowed to actually travel
Speaker 1: on a photo of you as a child. No, if
Speaker 1: you think back to yeah, I thought maybe as soon
Speaker 1: as you turned eighteen, even if you had to get
Speaker 1: update the photo or something, well, she still looked older
Speaker 1: than fifteen in the photo. Some people look drastically young
Speaker 1: at fifteen, like when I was I don't think when
Speaker 1: I was twenty five. I was traveling with my passport
Speaker 1: from when I was fifteen. It depends when you renewed
Speaker 1: your passport or when you got it. It reminds me
Speaker 1: of im patsy On absolutely fabulous when she has that
Speaker 1: passport photo from her twenties and she's like, fifty tickets
Speaker 1: to passport's piece. This is just want to know who take.
Speaker 1: Kiara Doro has accused her former podcast host Ash Binds
Speaker 1: of owing her money. The revelation came as the Mummy
Speaker 1: blogger revealed she's contemplating uploading a tell all YouTube about
Speaker 1: the saga. This drama just keeps on going. We have
Speaker 1: been covering this story in depth since November. If you're
Speaker 1: not all across it, go back and listen to some
Speaker 1: of the episodes. But from a top line level, Kiara
Speaker 1: and Ashy have been feuding ever since Kiara left their
Speaker 1: podcast and ash rebranded and got a new co host.
Speaker 1: Yeah So. This week, Kiara dished some more dirt during
Speaker 1: a recent Instagram Q and a so, a follower asked
Speaker 1: her if she was going to do a YouTube tell
Speaker 1: all like she originally promised. Now, Kiara revealed that while
Speaker 1: she had pulled the pin on doing it, she now
Speaker 1: has mixed emotions.
Speaker 2: She wrote, I keep trying.
Speaker 1: To give the other person the benefit of the doubt,
Speaker 1: but behind the scenes it is being made very difficult.
Speaker 1: I've been left to look after a lot of the
Speaker 1: mess and cleaning everything up myself, ending the business, closing accounts,
Speaker 1: paying bills, etc. Because I don't want to get myself
Speaker 1: in any trouble. She then wanted to say that she
Speaker 1: is still owed payments from October and complain that it's
Speaker 1: been difficult to move on from her business relationship with
Speaker 1: Ashi when she won't help finalize things she wanted to say.
Speaker 1: I also really pride myself in honesty and authenticity, so
Speaker 1: then throw on the flat out liars being told just
Speaker 1: makes me so angry. I'm a human being, so of
Speaker 1: course I have moments of big emotions and feeling like
Speaker 1: I want to go off low, especially when I'm trying
Speaker 1: to move on. But things keep popping up, whether that
Speaker 1: be liars told on another episode or bank situations I'm
Speaker 1: trying to fix. I wonder if this situation has been
Speaker 1: taken to Ash's legal team yet. I mean, there's pretty
Speaker 1: big to accuse someone of owing you money. I just think,
Speaker 1: as we've touched on Tuesday, people are getting sick of this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's kind of just weighing into the weeds and getting
Speaker 1: very petty. I totally feel for Kiara though, if she
Speaker 1: is owed a large sum of money, and it's very
Speaker 1: difficult if someone won't play the game.
Speaker 2: And get back to you.
Speaker 1: These are all allegations, though we don't actually know whether
Speaker 1: this is true. But I do think this needs to
Speaker 1: be taken offline, yeah, because you know, we don't really
Speaker 1: need the court of public opinion on this. As people said,
Speaker 1: they're already aware of the relationship breakdown. People have made
Speaker 1: up their minds about it. I don't think it's helping
Speaker 1: going into the weeds even further, I wanted to wait
Speaker 1: until the podcast to release this information because it's just
Speaker 1: so sad, sick and fucked up, and I just am
Speaker 1: afraid that you guys aren't ready to hear something like this.
Speaker 1: Mikayla Tester's former manager, Alisha McKenzie made a bold statement
Speaker 1: this week. She was spotted dining at Nobu in Malibu
Speaker 1: with none other than Mikayla's former friend Karina Koff. Now,
Speaker 1: I say spotted, but it was Karina who wanted everyone
Speaker 1: to know about it, posting their spread of sushi to
Speaker 1: her Instagram story and also tagging Alisha.
Speaker 2: Now to put this all.
Speaker 1: Into perspective, it was just a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 1: when Karina Kough publicly accused Mikhayla Tester of lying about
Speaker 1: the Paul family in a brutal Instagram takedown. Karina labeled
Speaker 1: Mikayla as a pathological liar as well as a narcissist
Speaker 1: and manipulative. She went on to say, ask anyone who
Speaker 1: has ever come into contact with her, and I promise
Speaker 1: you they will say the exact same thing. Since I
Speaker 1: met her two years ago, she has not had one
Speaker 1: consistent person in her life. Every single person has come
Speaker 1: and gone. It's everyone else who is the fucked up friend,
Speaker 1: who is the common denominator here.
Speaker 2: Now I feel like this is a.
Speaker 1: New thing to get back at your former bestie because
Speaker 1: back in November, a bunch of Ashy Bindes's former best
Speaker 1: friends shared that they were catching up over dinner. It's
Speaker 1: literally code for we are gossiping about you and want
Speaker 1: everyone on the internet to know about it. To be fair,
Speaker 1: I could imagine pulling this move in my early twenties,
Speaker 1: like you know, when you be immature and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this will be so funny. We'll get back at them
Speaker 1: this way. But as a thirty, well someone in their
Speaker 1: mid thirties looking at this, it's a bit pathetic. I
Speaker 1: stop doing that. I actually like it because you say
Speaker 1: so much without saying anything. Because what is happening here
Speaker 1: is people are like, oh, hang on, is there a
Speaker 1: little bit of truth to what Karina coughs saying? Because
Speaker 1: why would her manager and former best friend suddenly be
Speaker 1: dining with her? So this Alisha, I remember she got
Speaker 1: invited to a White Fox boutique trip I think when
Speaker 1: Coachella was on and Mikayla was supposed to go with her,
Speaker 1: but she couldn't get into the country. She had all
Speaker 1: of that ordeal, she couldn't get through security and she
Speaker 1: ended up being taken back to Australia. And from what
Speaker 1: I remember at the time, it seemed like Michayla would
Speaker 1: spend a lot of money on Alisha and buy her
Speaker 1: a lot of gifts, and I got the vibe. I'm like,
Speaker 1: Alicia seems to be taking a lot from this relationship.
Speaker 1: So I do question whether it's an instance where maybe
Speaker 1: when you're an influencer and you've got money, there are
Speaker 1: some friends that are out to use you. So maybe
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say necessarily that Michayla is the common denominator here. Well,
Speaker 1: we don't really know what's gone on behind the scenes there,
Speaker 1: But in terms of that trip, Alisha was traveling with
Speaker 1: Mikayla as her manager, and then she continued on to
Speaker 1: the US and actually took Mikayla's spot on that trip. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it seemed like she almost wanted to be a bit
Speaker 1: of an influencer herself because she kept appearing in the videos,
Speaker 1: and you know how there's always so much competition between
Speaker 1: jen Zetas and millennials. I actually think this is a
Speaker 1: very millennial thing to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: I mean I want to know what's happened because this
Speaker 1: falling out must have been pretty recent because Alisha was
Speaker 1: actually listed as Mikayla's co host and upcoming podcast series
Speaker 1: about her relationship with the Paul family. So something has
Speaker 1: clearly happened in the last couple of weeks. So her
Speaker 1: name has now been removed from that podcast. So we're
Speaker 1: going to see Anna Paul out dining with them soon.
Speaker 2: I think that will happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, the Pauls must be loving
Speaker 1: all of this, because it's not painting Mikayla in the
Speaker 1: best line. I sadly think it's a matter of time
Speaker 1: before the Internet just turns on Mikayla Tester and everyone's
Speaker 1: pro unapolled. We spoke about this a little bit when
Speaker 1: we were talking about As She Binds and all her dramas,
Speaker 1: that it becomes a point where people shared too much
Speaker 1: online and it really muddies the water. Well, people are like,
Speaker 1: I'll get over it. By she don't think that that's
Speaker 1: going to happen in this instance. I disagree. I think
Speaker 1: once we hear more of what Mikayla went through in
Speaker 1: her relationship with Addis Paul, she's already made some very
Speaker 1: serious allegations about him. I think that people are going
Speaker 1: to one hundred percent side with Mikayla. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you look at Anna Paul's comment section, it is brutal
Speaker 1: at the moment. I think the fact that the podcast
Speaker 1: has been delayed for quite a number of weeks since
Speaker 1: all of this went down isn't helping Mikayla out though,
Speaker 1: because originally she said, oh, the podcast is launching next week,
Speaker 1: and it's probably been I don't know, like a month
Speaker 1: since all that drama hits. So I think that she
Speaker 1: needed to capitalize on the attention because people get to
Speaker 1: a point on the internet where they're like, I'm over this,
Speaker 1: this is boring, just shut up. Well, she did drop
Speaker 1: about Anna Paul's treatment or alleged treatment of her birds, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think breadcrumbing there. Yeah, so there's been a
Speaker 1: bit of bread crumbing. But as you say, you don't
Speaker 1: want it to be a point where people are I'll
Speaker 1: get over it. And move on like particularly because she
Speaker 1: is engaged to someone else. Now, well that's.
Speaker 2: Where we're going to leave things today.
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