1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: Sophie Torba and coming up on today's show, Sammy Robinson 4 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: has a new man in her life, Mikayla Tester's former 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: manager's bold statement, and Molly May talks about baby number two. 6 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: But first, entrepreneur Michelle Battersby has revealed the very unorthodox 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: way that she eats a meat pie. The Sunroom founder 8 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: coursed to Stir online, revealing she's been eating it this. 9 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 2: Way her whole life. 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: I haven't actually eaten a meat pie since our so 11 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: teacher told us in year eleven what's in them? 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: But this almost made me want to test it out. 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in that same classroom and he said 14 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: that there's assholes and hoofs of the cows in there 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: and the fetus. 16 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: That is what really put me off. 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: I saw a TikTok the other day and someone found 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: what looked like an asshole in a very cheaply made pie. 19 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: I mean, this whole conversation isn't meant to be putting 20 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: people off eating pies, because when Michelle ate this pie, 21 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: it actually looks so delicious. So what she does is 22 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: she firstly takes the lid off the pie and eats that, 23 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: so the pastry lid, and I think there's something to 24 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: be said for people who actually eat their pies like that. 25 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: I remember growing up it would always be a particular 26 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: girl that was quite a perfectionist, that would have been 27 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: able to pull the lid off perfectly and then eat 28 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: all the feeling. I'd've heard of people peeling the sausage 29 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: roll and eating the pastry first, and then the sausage bit, 30 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: which looks absolutely revolting. I'm sorry, that doesn't sound advertising 31 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: to me. I want to get the pastry in, okay 32 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 1: with the mixture. 33 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 2: If you got to wait. 34 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: So anyway, she eats the lid first, and then she 35 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: puts tomato sauce on the meat, and she eats all 36 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: of the meat by itself with a fork some yah. 37 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: But then she leaves a little bit of the meat 38 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: in the bottom of the pie. And then she gets 39 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: a bag of light and tangy chips, crushes them up, 40 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: puts it in the pie, and then eats it as 41 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: if it's like its own taco. Wow. I mean, she's 42 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: actually one way over with the light and tangy chips. 43 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: I feel like light and tangy chips are a blast 44 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: from the past, aren't they the chip that you'd have 45 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: growing up as a TI Yeah. It was a bit 46 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: of a random chip though, because people who make chip 47 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: sandwiches I often find they'll use just an original plane plane. 48 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: Driving back in the day when Thins used to sell 49 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 1: that multi family pack and one bag would be light 50 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: and tanging, the other one would be plain, you'd always 51 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: go for the light and tangy first. Yeah, this is 52 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: gonna be flashbacks, and you'd get the tazo. Yeah. But 53 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: also I remember the bag was mostly full of air. 54 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You have any of them? 55 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: This hack actually reminds me of one of our family traditions, 56 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: which I grew up thinking was completely normal. 57 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: So it's vanilla ice cream with plane chips. 58 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: And they have to be plane chips. They can't be 59 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: a different flavor because it's the salty and the sweet 60 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: that goes together. I was talking about this combo with 61 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: my husband yesterday and his family and they were like, 62 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: that is so weird, and I'm like, you guys have 63 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: to try it. It is a least this isn't a 64 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: food combination. But we got sent MAXI bonds the other day, 65 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: and I feel like you were either a biscuit first 66 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 1: or a chocolate and ice cream first, and I judge 67 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: people on which one they chose, trying to think. 68 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 2: What I think. 69 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: I eat the chocolate bit first because you hold it 70 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 1: with the biscuit really well. I was just aged because 71 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: my husband told me that he actually likes the chocolate 72 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: side the best. I like the biscuit. I would prefer 73 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: if the whole thing was just made of biscuits. I 74 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: like both because the biscuit can sometimes get a little 75 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: bit soggy, I think if it's melted too much. Another 76 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: weird food combo I heard the other day from my 77 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: mother in law is that she grew up eating sugar 78 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: and apple sandwiches. 79 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 2: Hang on, do you mean stewed apples? 80 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: Well, my understanding is that she meant slices of apple 81 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: that had sugar sprinkled on them. Remember our dad used 82 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 1: to go to school with sugar sandwiches. That was a 83 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: huge thing back in the day. So it was it's 84 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: like hundreds of thousands. Gotta be bloody easy to pack 85 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: that duram of the controversy. I think It was probably 86 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: like six months ago now when we spoke about that 87 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: influencer Mum who froze her sandwiches. Yeah yeah, pissed off 88 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people talking about that. I want to 89 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: know our listeners crazy food combos though. We will put 90 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: up a question box on Instagram send yours in and 91 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: it would be fun to try some. 92 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: I'm just working from home today and I found the 93 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: hot past funds in Visco. That's so good. 94 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: Sammy Robinson has a new man in her life. The 95 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: fashion designer's new influencer bow soft launch the blossoming romance 96 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: on his Instagram that this wasn't your typical soft launch. No, 97 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: he didn't just casually post Sammy in the background of 98 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: an Instagram story or in a photo dump. He made 99 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: a cryptic or not so cryptic real about her. Now. 100 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: The new guy in question is a fitness influencer called 101 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: Sam Cameron, and all I could think about is the 102 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: fact that they pretty much have the same name, Sam 103 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: and Sammy. This is another influencer couple with matching names. 104 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: Who's the other matching one. 105 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: Sophie Kasha and Sophie vander Hoo will remember they have 106 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: the same name. 107 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I suppose. 108 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: I mean, at least with Sammy, she's Sammy and he 109 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: can be sam or Samantha and Samuel. I would hate 110 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: to date someone with the same name as me. It 111 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: reminds me a bit of a conversation we're having the other 112 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: day about certain names that you just don't like, and 113 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: that makes you think differently about a person they hate 114 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: the name. I'm sorry if anyone's partner or anyone listening 115 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: has his name Tristan, and it is because one boy 116 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: at school who won't go into it, he had the name. 117 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: And you know, when someone puts you off from primary, 118 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: there's a lot of names like that that you just 119 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: have to when you're coming up with a baby name, 120 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: cross them off. I think when it comes to partners, though, 121 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: it's a little bit different because it's not like you're 122 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: actually choosing the name. And I think we can all 123 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: sit here and go I'd never dated Tristan, but I mean, 124 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: if some hot guy that got on really well with 125 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: was called that, you probably would turn a blind eye. 126 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: We had a new association, don't you remember. So if 127 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: you went on a date with a guy called Dwayne 128 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: and there was just something about that name. 129 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: And instant turn off. 130 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was another guy I dated briefly called Darren, 131 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: and again I was like, I don't know if I'm 132 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: feeling the name. Yeah, it's Aaron and Dwayne. It's a 133 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: bit like when you're deciding on children's names too, Like 134 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: some names sound really cute as a baby, but if 135 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I'm dating a guy called Bear and 136 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: he's in his thirties, I don't know does it work. 137 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,679 Speaker 1: Getting back to the two SAMs, it's quite interesting because 138 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: Sam used to work as a full time industrial electrician 139 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: until he quit his job two years ago to pursue 140 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: a career in content creation. So he launched an online coaching. 141 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: Platform, red Flag. 142 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he's this really buff fitness guy. He now 143 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: has over forty seven thousand followers, and last week is 144 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: when he did this soft launch. So he uploaded a 145 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: real of him walking into frame wearing just orange and 146 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: yellow speedo blag. Again, he was showing off his six pack, 147 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: and over the top of this vision, the caption said, 148 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: working hard so that my future wife can run her 149 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: successful clothing company. And I don't feel insecure for not 150 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: being able to equally financially provide for our found I 151 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: don't mean to be that person, but what work was 152 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: he actually doing in the real other than looking hot? Well? Yeah, 153 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: it was very confusing because underneath one person wrote, I 154 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: don't get it. How is walking out of your unit 155 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: in Speedo's helping your future wife? Did I miss something? 156 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: Because maybe if he had shown himself training a group 157 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: of people or actually working, it would have made sense. 158 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: I was like, is this just an excuse to get 159 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: your budget smuggles out? I'm staying hot so I can 160 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: get followers on Instagram? 161 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: You continue this life? Maybe he means working hard, like 162 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 2: working out. 163 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: It made no sense, and immediately super Sluice we like, well, 164 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: this must be about Sammy Robinson. Obviously she's got her 165 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: clothing brand one Mile, and over the past few weeks, 166 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: Sam has actually popped up in Sammy's photo dumps. So 167 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: in one photo she had Sam in the background of 168 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: a photo of her in one of her friends, and 169 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: then in another he was sitting next to her at 170 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: the beach, again with another group of friends. So it 171 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: wasn't completely obvious, and it didn't take long for Sam's 172 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: friends to weigh in and drop further clues. One friend wrote, 173 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: keep grinding. One mile at a time, bro referring to 174 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: Sammy's brand one mile, while another said one mile closer 175 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: each time. 176 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: Another joke. 177 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: This is a fairly vague post, broke, can you elaborate please, 178 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: and others excitedly asked. 179 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 2: If it was a soft launch. 180 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: I wonder how Sammy felt about that, because it kind 181 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: of comes across as he's using her for cloud. It 182 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: comes across as very strong to call someone your future wife. 183 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: Like I know, it's a bit of a joke, but 184 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: it almost makes you think, oh, using her for the hour, 185 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: for the money. I mean, I was joking about it before, 186 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: but there are far too many red flags here. The 187 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: fact that he is saying, you know, love bobbing her, 188 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: essentially saying my future wife, and then ultimately using her 189 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: for clout and engagement. I know this sam guy already 190 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: has a bit of a following, but do you think 191 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five that people can actually build and 192 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: influencer career off the back of dating somebody. No. I 193 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: think it's oversaturated now because look at Matt Sakowski. He 194 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: is dating Tammy Hembro, who was one of the most 195 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: followed people in Australia. I think she's got over like 196 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: sixteen or seventeen million followers. He's sitting at around one 197 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand. It hasn't gone up much, just 198 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: what he was on when he was on Love Island, 199 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: like that hasn't come from her. And then you've got 200 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: Saffron Barker, the UK influencer who has been splashing her 201 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: new boyfriend everywhere. He's this gorgeous model. You think that 202 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: her followers would want to, you know, see what he's 203 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: up to, and he's only sitting around like the ten 204 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: thousand came because if you think back in the day, 205 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: for example, when Jonathan Sower started dating Shany Grimmin, he 206 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: was inundated with followers. Like his proximity to Shani made 207 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: him an influencer. He was able to quit his job. 208 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: But you don't see this happening as much, and he's 209 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: lost all of them, even though he's dating Madison Woolly, 210 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: who apparently has nearly seven hundred thousand followers. I'm that 211 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: loser though that does follow people's boyfriends. I immediately went 212 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: and followed Sammy's boyfriend, but then I saw he was 213 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: sharing a lot of that motivational like fitness content that 214 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: I was like, I kind of didn't want to popping 215 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: up for my husband seeing it because it was a 216 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: lot of as we say, like him walking around in 217 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: speedo's with his top off. I was like, I don't 218 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: know if I want what's his head? Well, but this 219 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: guy is definitely a bit of Sammy. So he's tall, dark, 220 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: and he appears to have a New Zealand accent. It's 221 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: very much her recent type, isn't it. He is very 222 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: much her type. 223 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: They look really good together. 224 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see where this goes. But she hasn't 225 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: had much luck with relationships, which is why I think 226 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: she leaves some offline. So the fact that he's trying 227 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: to now get engagement offer or I don't think it's 228 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: going to last. Nothing more unattractive than a guy being 229 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: really big on socials, you know, like, let her post 230 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: a couple photo of you first, before you're looking so 231 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: thirsty that you're trying to drop it. I didn't like 232 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: any guys that are listening to this single. People want 233 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: to see more than the photo of you and a 234 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: fish from ten years ago, but not too much where 235 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: you seem too keen those speedo videos. I think maybe 236 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: a couple of posts each year and that's it, well, 237 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: unless you're trying to become an influencer, But that in 238 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: itself is a bit of a nick. 239 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 3: I've been having a lot of thoughts recently about baby 240 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 3: number two and more babies, and I get asked when 241 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 3: I put those question boxes up. That's like one another 242 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 3: huge thing that like always gets asked about, is say, 243 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 3: babe number two, what's your thoughts. 244 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: As we add closer to the release date of part 245 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: two of Molly May's tell or docco, rumors she's reconciled 246 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: with her former fiance Tommy Fury are getting stronger. Yeah, 247 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: because this time they have been caught out enjoying a 248 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: romantic weekend away at the river with their daughter Bambi. 249 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: So last Wednesday, Molly shared a foe dump which she 250 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: titled the Favorites Album, and amongst the photos there was 251 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: a picture of her rugged up sitting next to the 252 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: river drinking a cup of tea. Now, on Monday, Tommy 253 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: shared his own photo dump with the caption life's been 254 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: looking up with a love heart emoji. And I saw 255 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: in the comment section Everyone's like, yeah, of course, looking up. 256 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: Molly May's taking you back now. Within this photo dump, 257 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: there was a picture of him sitting beside a very 258 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: similar looking river on a boat wearing a life jacket. 259 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: And if this wasn't enough of a clue, Molly previously 260 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: had posted a photo to her Instagram story of her 261 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: wearing an identical life jacket. Yes, it was very clear 262 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: that they have spent the weekend together. Molly seemed to 263 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: be really gushing about what a wonderful weekend was because 264 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: she subsequently shared a photo of Bamby sitting in the 265 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 1: car with the caption weekends like the one we just had, 266 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: couldn't ask for anything more. They really have been gradually 267 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: dropping hints and I think it is all gearing up 268 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: to the big review on Molly's documentary, which is set 269 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: to be released in spring. Well. I saw a recent 270 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: vlog that Molly put up and she doesn't even appear 271 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: to know the air date yet. She said they're still 272 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: filming at the moment. If these rumors are true, though, 273 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: it appears that the Prime Video crew have been capturing 274 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: this reunion for us, because it was reported last month 275 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: that the film crew captured their Valentine's Day getaway which 276 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: was out of matter and the couple have stayed there before. 277 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: It's one of Molly's favorite getaways. I mean, why else 278 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: would she be there on Valentine's. Yeah, Well, it was 279 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: quite interesting because in this recent vog of Molly's, she 280 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: also spoke about the possibility of having a second series 281 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 1: of her documentary. So I suppose it wouldn't be so 282 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: much of a documentary. She said it would be more 283 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: of a reality show, and she was about their wedding. Well, 284 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: she was basically asking her audience, is this something you'd 285 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: like to see? Because she was concerned that maybe if 286 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: she did another series that people would lose interest and 287 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: maybe they wouldn't watch her YouTube videos anymore. And she 288 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: said that the only way she would do a second 289 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: series was if it made sense and there was some 290 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: form of storyline. She's like, people don't want to see 291 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: me sitting around with Bamby, And I thought the same thing. 292 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: I bet if there's a wedding on the cards, we 293 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: will see series two of this. Also, just having the 294 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: two of them together on camera adds a new element 295 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: to it. I think that's what the series is missing 296 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: currently now. Molly stoked the flames even further in a 297 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: Q and A that she uploaded to YouTube on Monday. 298 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: She was really upbeat in this video, and she even 299 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: commented that her happiness levels have been spiking recently. There 300 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: is so much breadcrumbing going on. She went on to say, 301 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: there's been a crazy amount of ups and downs over 302 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: the last year, but currently I'm feeling really, really happy 303 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: and the glimmers of my true old self are coming back. 304 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: I felt genuinely happy for Molly when I saw her 305 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: acting like this. I know some people were saying, oh, 306 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: this is a publicity stunt, but as we've discussed previously, 307 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: I do not believe this is enough. It is for 308 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: a minute, in a very bold move. In this Q 309 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: and A, Molly answered a followers question about when she 310 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: plans to have a second baby, which sod the fire 311 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: even more. 312 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: This was surprised, she touched it. Yeah, this is what 313 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: she said. 314 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 3: Not really in a position right now to sit here 315 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 3: and talk about baby number two and like more babies, 316 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: like after the last year that my relationship has gone through. 317 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 3: But like, besides all of that, and like if you 318 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 3: take the relationship and like me and Tommy like out 319 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 3: of it for a second, Like I think a lot, 320 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 3: a lot a lot about baby number two and more 321 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 3: babies and like thoughts and feelings in regards to it 322 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 3: and me and my best friend Taylor, we talk about 323 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 3: it all of the time, and like, I don't know. 324 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 3: I think it's something that like I do want to 325 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 3: speak out a little bit because I feel like it's 326 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 3: another thing that's in my mind all the time, just 327 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 3: like circulating, Like how am I meant to feel about it? 328 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 3: Because I do worry that sometimes how I do feel 329 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 3: about it isn't like how I view I should feel 330 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 3: about it, if that makes sense. 331 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: She went on to say that she found the newborn 332 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: stage unbelievably difficult, but joke that she would happily handle 333 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: one hundred two year olds like Ben, but if she 334 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: could skip the newborn stage, not what you want to 335 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: hear as an expectant moment waiting for that. It's quite 336 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: interesting because I remember when Tommy and Molly were still together. 337 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: That was when Molly was saying, maybe that this is it, 338 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: maybe we will only have one baby. But it's interesting 339 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: now that you know, maybe she's trying to get Tommy 340 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: back or vice versa, that she's open to having more kids. 341 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: I think it's because Bambi's at an age where Molly's 342 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: really enjoying. Yeahound that. But for Tommy, clearly he wants 343 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: I mean he said he'd have ten kids with her 344 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: if he wanted to. I just worry that you've broken up. 345 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: You know, there's obviously issues with alcohol and then a 346 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: patch over it isn't having another child. Well, the reason 347 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: she said she potentially wanted a second child was she 348 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: wants Bamby to have a sister because she has a 349 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: very special relationship with her sister Zoe. And she said 350 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: that's the thing that makes her feel really bad, like 351 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,239 Speaker 1: she would hate for Bambi not to have that special relationship. 352 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: What a weird thing to talk about when you're supposed 353 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: to be broken up with your partner. Even the fact 354 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: that she was referring in this Q and A to 355 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: my relationship is a clear sign that they're back together, 356 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: Because wouldn't you say my past relationship or shut it 357 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: down and say that you're single and it's not something 358 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: that you're thinking about. Yeah, this doesn't make any sense. 359 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: It's like soft launching this relationship. Unrelated did you also 360 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: see this week that Molly had to update her passport 361 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: photo so she has had the same passport photo for 362 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: the last ten years. But when I heard this. 363 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: It shocked me. 364 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: She was like, yeah, the last photo that was taken 365 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: was when I was fifteen. It blew my mind because, oh, 366 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: that's right. 367 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: She's only twenty five. 368 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: But I feel like you're not allowed to actually travel 369 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: on a photo of you as a child. No, if 370 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: you think back to yeah, I thought maybe as soon 371 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: as you turned eighteen, even if you had to get 372 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: update the photo or something, well, she still looked older 373 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: than fifteen in the photo. Some people look drastically young 374 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: at fifteen, like when I was I don't think when 375 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: I was twenty five. I was traveling with my passport 376 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: from when I was fifteen. It depends when you renewed 377 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: your passport or when you got it. It reminds me 378 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: of im patsy On absolutely fabulous when she has that 379 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: passport photo from her twenties and she's like, fifty tickets 380 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: to passport's piece. This is just want to know who take. 381 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: Kiara Doro has accused her former podcast host Ash Binds 382 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: of owing her money. The revelation came as the Mummy 383 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: blogger revealed she's contemplating uploading a tell all YouTube about 384 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: the saga. This drama just keeps on going. We have 385 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: been covering this story in depth since November. If you're 386 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,719 Speaker 1: not all across it, go back and listen to some 387 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: of the episodes. But from a top line level, Kiara 388 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: and Ashy have been feuding ever since Kiara left their 389 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: podcast and ash rebranded and got a new co host. 390 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: Yeah So. This week, Kiara dished some more dirt during 391 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: a recent Instagram Q and a so, a follower asked 392 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: her if she was going to do a YouTube tell 393 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: all like she originally promised. Now, Kiara revealed that while 394 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: she had pulled the pin on doing it, she now 395 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: has mixed emotions. 396 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 2: She wrote, I keep trying. 397 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: To give the other person the benefit of the doubt, 398 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: but behind the scenes it is being made very difficult. 399 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: I've been left to look after a lot of the 400 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: mess and cleaning everything up myself, ending the business, closing accounts, 401 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: paying bills, etc. Because I don't want to get myself 402 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: in any trouble. She then wanted to say that she 403 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: is still owed payments from October and complain that it's 404 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: been difficult to move on from her business relationship with 405 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: Ashi when she won't help finalize things she wanted to say. 406 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: I also really pride myself in honesty and authenticity, so 407 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: then throw on the flat out liars being told just 408 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: makes me so angry. I'm a human being, so of 409 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: course I have moments of big emotions and feeling like 410 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: I want to go off low, especially when I'm trying 411 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,719 Speaker 1: to move on. But things keep popping up, whether that 412 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: be liars told on another episode or bank situations I'm 413 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: trying to fix. I wonder if this situation has been 414 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: taken to Ash's legal team yet. I mean, there's pretty 415 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: big to accuse someone of owing you money. I just think, 416 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: as we've touched on Tuesday, people are getting sick of this. Yeah, 417 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: it's kind of just weighing into the weeds and getting 418 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: very petty. I totally feel for Kiara though, if she 419 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: is owed a large sum of money, and it's very 420 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: difficult if someone won't play the game. 421 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 2: And get back to you. 422 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: These are all allegations, though we don't actually know whether 423 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: this is true. But I do think this needs to 424 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: be taken offline, yeah, because you know, we don't really 425 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: need the court of public opinion on this. As people said, 426 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: they're already aware of the relationship breakdown. People have made 427 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: up their minds about it. I don't think it's helping 428 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: going into the weeds even further, I wanted to wait 429 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: until the podcast to release this information because it's just 430 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: so sad, sick and fucked up, and I just am 431 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: afraid that you guys aren't ready to hear something like this. 432 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: Mikayla Tester's former manager, Alisha McKenzie made a bold statement 433 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: this week. She was spotted dining at Nobu in Malibu 434 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: with none other than Mikayla's former friend Karina Koff. Now, 435 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: I say spotted, but it was Karina who wanted everyone 436 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: to know about it, posting their spread of sushi to 437 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: her Instagram story and also tagging Alisha. 438 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 2: Now to put this all. 439 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: Into perspective, it was just a couple of weeks ago 440 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: when Karina Kough publicly accused Mikhayla Tester of lying about 441 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: the Paul family in a brutal Instagram takedown. Karina labeled 442 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: Mikayla as a pathological liar as well as a narcissist 443 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: and manipulative. She went on to say, ask anyone who 444 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: has ever come into contact with her, and I promise 445 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: you they will say the exact same thing. Since I 446 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: met her two years ago, she has not had one 447 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: consistent person in her life. Every single person has come 448 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: and gone. It's everyone else who is the fucked up friend, 449 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: who is the common denominator here. 450 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 2: Now I feel like this is a. 451 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: New thing to get back at your former bestie because 452 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: back in November, a bunch of Ashy Bindes's former best 453 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: friends shared that they were catching up over dinner. It's 454 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: literally code for we are gossiping about you and want 455 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: everyone on the internet to know about it. To be fair, 456 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: I could imagine pulling this move in my early twenties, 457 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: like you know, when you be immature and you're like, oh, 458 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: this will be so funny. We'll get back at them 459 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: this way. But as a thirty, well someone in their 460 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: mid thirties looking at this, it's a bit pathetic. I 461 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: stop doing that. I actually like it because you say 462 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: so much without saying anything. Because what is happening here 463 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: is people are like, oh, hang on, is there a 464 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,719 Speaker 1: little bit of truth to what Karina coughs saying? Because 465 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: why would her manager and former best friend suddenly be 466 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: dining with her? So this Alisha, I remember she got 467 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: invited to a White Fox boutique trip I think when 468 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: Coachella was on and Mikayla was supposed to go with her, 469 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: but she couldn't get into the country. She had all 470 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: of that ordeal, she couldn't get through security and she 471 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,719 Speaker 1: ended up being taken back to Australia. And from what 472 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: I remember at the time, it seemed like Michayla would 473 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: spend a lot of money on Alisha and buy her 474 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: a lot of gifts, and I got the vibe. I'm like, 475 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: Alicia seems to be taking a lot from this relationship. 476 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: So I do question whether it's an instance where maybe 477 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: when you're an influencer and you've got money, there are 478 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: some friends that are out to use you. So maybe 479 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say necessarily that Michayla is the common denominator here. Well, 480 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: we don't really know what's gone on behind the scenes there, 481 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: But in terms of that trip, Alisha was traveling with 482 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: Mikayla as her manager, and then she continued on to 483 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: the US and actually took Mikayla's spot on that trip. Yeah, 484 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: it seemed like she almost wanted to be a bit 485 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: of an influencer herself because she kept appearing in the videos, 486 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: and you know how there's always so much competition between 487 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: jen Zetas and millennials. I actually think this is a 488 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: very millennial thing to do. 489 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. 490 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: I mean I want to know what's happened because this 491 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: falling out must have been pretty recent because Alisha was 492 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: actually listed as Mikayla's co host and upcoming podcast series 493 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: about her relationship with the Paul family. So something has 494 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: clearly happened in the last couple of weeks. So her 495 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: name has now been removed from that podcast. So we're 496 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: going to see Anna Paul out dining with them soon. 497 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 2: I think that will happen. 498 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, the Pauls must be loving 499 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: all of this, because it's not painting Mikayla in the 500 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: best line. I sadly think it's a matter of time 501 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: before the Internet just turns on Mikayla Tester and everyone's 502 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: pro unapolled. We spoke about this a little bit when 503 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: we were talking about As She Binds and all her dramas, 504 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: that it becomes a point where people shared too much 505 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: online and it really muddies the water. Well, people are like, 506 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: I'll get over it. By she don't think that that's 507 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: going to happen in this instance. I disagree. I think 508 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: once we hear more of what Mikayla went through in 509 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: her relationship with Addis Paul, she's already made some very 510 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: serious allegations about him. I think that people are going 511 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: to one hundred percent side with Mikayla. I mean, if 512 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: you look at Anna Paul's comment section, it is brutal 513 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: at the moment. I think the fact that the podcast 514 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: has been delayed for quite a number of weeks since 515 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: all of this went down isn't helping Mikayla out though, 516 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: because originally she said, oh, the podcast is launching next week, 517 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: and it's probably been I don't know, like a month 518 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: since all that drama hits. So I think that she 519 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: needed to capitalize on the attention because people get to 520 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: a point on the internet where they're like, I'm over this, 521 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: this is boring, just shut up. Well, she did drop 522 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: about Anna Paul's treatment or alleged treatment of her birds, yeah, 523 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: and I think breadcrumbing there. Yeah, so there's been a 524 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: bit of bread crumbing. But as you say, you don't 525 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: want it to be a point where people are I'll 526 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: get over it. And move on like particularly because she 527 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: is engaged to someone else. Now, well that's. 528 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: Where we're going to leave things today. 529 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to another episode about Spoken. If 530 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: you do enjoy the show, please leave us a review 531 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,239 Speaker 1: and don't forget to share where you're listening from. 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