1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Good morning, and welcome to the Daily OS. Today is Friday, 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: the twenty second of July, and on this grand finale 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: of the week, we're talking about all things corruption. There 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: is always a lot of corruption, but this week particularly. 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: We'll get into it in just a little while. But 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: before that, Sam, there was a bit of news yesterday. 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 2: That's right. We'll lead with childcare workers who have announced 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: they will strike on September seven over poor pay and 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: working conditions. Delegates from the United Workers Union voted on 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: Wednesday to stage the action, which they hope will trigger 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: an immediate injection in funding from the Albanese government. Marches 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: will be organized across the country, with demonstration also set 13 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: to take place outside parliament. 14 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: The director of the US Central Intelligence Agency, the CIA, 15 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: has dismissed speculation that Russian President Vladimir Pudin is unwell, 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: saying that there's no evidence to suggest that he's suffering 17 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: from poor health. While speaking at a security forum in Colorado, 18 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: William Burns joked that Pudin was quote entirely too healthy, 19 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: adding that this wasn't a formal intelligence judgment. 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 2: We'll stick with Russia now, and new sanctions against Russia 21 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: were agreed upon by diplomats from the European Union this 22 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: week in what is the seventh round of sanctions from 23 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: the EU, a ban on importing gold from Russia will 24 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 2: now be inserted. Russia is actually the second largest producer 25 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: of gold in the world and accounted for over fifteen 26 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: billion dollars of national revenue last year. 27 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: And the good news for your Friday, the cast of 28 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: Australian comedy show Kath and Kim have reunited this week 29 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: to film a special twentieth anniversary that is expected to 30 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 1: air later this week. As first reported in the Cidney 31 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: Morning Heralds, the cast is expected to be filming new 32 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: sketch materials this week, which will be included alongside a 33 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: selection of highlights and rare footage in the reunion show That's. 34 00:01:51,400 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: Nomice Different Unusual Zara. A week goes by in Australian 35 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: politics at the moment that we're not talking about corruption 36 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: within the political arena, and today we're chatting about the 37 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: findings of two Australian anti corruption commissions. Both have found 38 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 2: that members in their respective state parliaments acted with misconduct 39 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: or were corrupts. Doesn't paint the best picture of os 40 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: poll at the moment. Before we dive any deeper, can 41 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: we first have a chat about what these findings relate 42 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: to and who they were made by. 43 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: So the findings relate to the actions of politicians in 44 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: both the New South Wales and Victorian state parliaments, So 45 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: we're really crossing some partisan lines here. These actions were 46 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: investigated by each state's anti corruption commission. You've heard that 47 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 1: word a lot. In New South Wales this is called 48 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: the Independent Commission Against Corruption or eye CAAC, and in 49 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: Victoria it's called the Independent Broad Based Anti Corruption Commission 50 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: or IBACK. 51 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: So now that we know who made these findings, let's 52 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: go through the finer details of each of these cases. 53 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: Let's start with Victoria IBACK. What happened there? 54 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: So the case heard by IBACK pertains to the alleged 55 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: misuse of public funds in the Victorian Labor Party. So, 56 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: for context, Labour is currently in government in Victoria and 57 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: has been for quite a while, since twenty fourteen under 58 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: Premier Dan Andrews. The investigation focused on the actions of 59 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: one faction within the Labor Party, and a faction is 60 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: those smaller groupings that exist within a bigger party. This 61 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: faction was accused of using their staffers who were funded 62 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: by the taxpayer for improper purposes between twenty seventeen and 63 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. So when we think about factions, especially in 64 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: the context of larger political parties such as Labor, there 65 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: can be a few competing ones, which often means that 66 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: rivalries can form as different factions compete on party policy 67 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: and candidate selection. So IBAK cast its eye on the 68 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: Moderate Labor faction and specifically named three MPs for misconduct, 69 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: none of whom are still in Parliament today. 70 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: And Zara, you mentioned that these members of the Moderate 71 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: Labor faction were being investigative for in proper purposes and 72 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: misuse of public funds. So our tax payer money. What 73 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: sort of activities were they actually engaging in. 74 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a mouthful, but when you actually get into it, 75 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: it's not that complex. So Iback found that they were 76 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: using taxpayer funded staff, so staff who are meant to 77 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: help them do their jobs as members of Parliament, to 78 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: actually just basically fight internal party battles between factions. In particular, 79 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: the staff were being used to do something that we 80 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: call branch stacking, which is a practice that's against party rules. 81 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: It basically involves paying people's joining fees to become party members, 82 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: effectively signing up a bunch of non genuine or fake 83 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: members to the party to then help you win internal 84 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: votes on things like candidates or policies. It's not something 85 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: that just pertains to the Labor Party. We've heard of 86 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: it in the Liberal Party too, but it's a method 87 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: of gaining influence within the party that's against party rules. 88 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: And what's more relevant here is that it's not an 89 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: appropriate use of time for taxpayer funded staff. So there 90 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: were three MPs named as having done this, Adam Somyerak, 91 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: Marlene Cairouz and Robin Scott. Somyrek was the factional leader. 92 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: He's no longer a member of the Labor Party and 93 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: all three are actually no longer government ministers now. IBAQ 94 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: found there was a culture of branch stacking evidence across 95 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: the Victorian Labor Party, not just this faction, but it 96 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: found there was no substantial evidence of this improper use 97 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: of staffers in any other faction. 98 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: So this all happens this week. Do we know what 99 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 2: the fallout from these findings is going to be. 100 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, well we have a bit of an idea. IBAC 101 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 1: handed down twenty one recommendations to improve integrity and ethical 102 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: behavior among politicians, which the government has committed to supporting 103 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: and implementing in its entirety. This case won't be advanced 104 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: into criminal proceedings as IBAC decided that the misconduct found 105 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: in the Moderate Labor faction was not an example of 106 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: quote black corruption, which is when someone in the public 107 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: sector dishonestly exercises their power for their own private gain 108 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: and reward, like money, for example, but they categorized at 109 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: more as a gray area of bending the rules for 110 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: political advantage. 111 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: Let's move to New South Wales now, because one state 112 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: with a corruption inquiry wouldn't be enough. Can you tell 113 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: us what findings were made in Akak? 114 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this one is a bit different because this 115 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: one is about private gains. So on Wednesday, New South 116 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: Wales Anti Corruption Commission found John Siddoti, who left the 117 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: Liberal Party in New South Wales in twenty twenty one 118 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: ahead of this AIKAK inquiry. It found that he'd used 119 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: his position in parliament to benefit his family's property interests. Specifically, 120 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: IKAK found that Siddodi tried to improperly influence three councilors 121 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: from Canada Bay, which is a local government area an 122 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: LGA which we heard a lot last year in the 123 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: inner west of Sydney and it overlaps with Siddote's state 124 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: seat of Dremoyne. This improper influence included lobbying the council 125 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: to extend or to change benefits to suit the properties 126 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: that his family owned, and also using pressure and threats 127 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: to influence counselors who refuse to comply with him. 128 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: So we heard Daniel Andrews in Victoria get up and 129 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: embrace the findings of IBAC in response to the misconduct 130 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: by people in his own party. What did we hear 131 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: from New South Wales' Premier Dominique Perrote in reaction to 132 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: the IKAK findings. 133 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: So Soddodi is still in parliament. He is now an 134 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: independent and not a Liberal. Perrote has called on him 135 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: to resign, saying that if he chooses not to the 136 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: government will move emotion to have him suspended. But Sododi 137 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: has rejected the findings of IKAK and he told nine 138 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: News this week that he's not going anywhere and would 139 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: fight this all the way. He also suggested he swore 140 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: at Perrote when Perrote called him the other thing that 141 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: might happen here is criminal charges, so that's not something 142 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: IKAK can do itself, but AIKAK can recommend to the 143 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: DPP that they look at the case and consider where 144 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: the prosecution is appropriate. And Ikak has done that here, 145 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: so they're actually maybe more come on this one. 146 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: Politicians behaving badly a funny way to end this Friday's 147 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: episode of The dally Oz. But it's been quite a 148 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: big week of news. Thank you for writing along with us. 149 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: We'll be back on Monday morning with another week of 150 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: podcasting for you. But if you need some news over 151 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: the weekend, make sure that check in on our Instagram. 152 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,119 Speaker 2: We put up a quiz on Instagram every Saturday morning 153 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: and it's getting a bit of a cult following, so 154 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: it might be worth checking out. 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