1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Well, it's looking like the Deputy Chief Minister's got some 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: questions to answer when it comes to shares. This time 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: the NT Independent running a story about Chancey Paike investing 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: in a liquor wholesale company that supplies alcohol to Alice 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: Springs bottle shops. Now, according to the report, the now 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: Deputy Chief Minister invested in the shares two months before 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory Government returned intervention era grog bands on 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: remote communities to lapse in twenty twenty two. The value 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: of those shares hasn't been disclosed, but they are in 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: liquor and food distribution company met Cash and were reportedly 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: obtained in May twenty twenty two, that is according to 12 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: parliamentary disclosure records, and that is since becoming well. He's 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: now said that since becoming the Deputy he has divested 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 1: those shares. According to The Independent, met Cash is registered 15 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: as a liquor wholesaler with the NT government, supplying takeaway 16 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: grog and groceries to Alice Springs and Darwin through IgA Stool, 17 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: including food to remote community shops, while it's subsidiary also 18 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: supplies alcohol to Thirsty Camel celebrations and Bottaloa stores in 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory and across the country. As we know, 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: Parliament resumes today, so I caught up with the Opposition 21 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: leader Lea Fanocchiaro a little earlier this morning. 22 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Leah. 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 3: Good morning Katie and to your listeners. 24 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: Now, what do you make of this situation that is 25 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: indeed breaking this morning that the Deputy Chief Minister will 26 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: he's got some questions to answer when it comes to shares. 27 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: Well, this just reinforces that labor are in an integrity crisis. 28 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 3: And despite the previous Chief Minister falling on her sword 29 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 3: over a shared scandal very similar to this, Well, what 30 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: we've got is now the Deputy Leader facing the same questions. 31 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: And what it highlights to me and I'm sure your 32 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: listeners Katie, is that this government clearly has a total 33 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: disregard for the rules. They are not operating in an 34 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 3: open and transparent manner as they promised in twenty sixteen, 35 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: and they've totally failed to meet him in the expectation Lea. 36 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: According to this report, mister Paig was reportedly the Minister 37 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: for Indigenous Essential Services at the time that he acquired 38 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: these shares, as well as Minister for a mode housing 39 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: in town Camp, which appears to have placed him in 40 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: contravention of the Northern Territory Cabinet Code of Conduct, which 41 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: forbids ministers from holding shares in any company that may 42 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: create a conflict of interest as a result of their 43 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: portfolio responsibilities. What action do you think needs to be 44 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: taken here? 45 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 3: Well, he needs to do the right thing and resign, 46 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 3: just like Natasha Files did, and he needs to answer 47 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 3: some serious questions. We've got someone who was sitting in 48 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: cabinet now, Chancey Paig has been was very strong at 49 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 3: that time in supporting the end of Stronger Futures and 50 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 3: backed himself into that position. He clearly was a senior 51 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 3: cabinet minister at the time and now he holds the 52 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: second highest rank in the Northern Territory government. So you know, 53 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: the questions around this include whether or not he disclosed 54 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: to the cabinet his conflict or potential conflict of interest. 55 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: Was he in those meetings, Was he part of the 56 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: decision making because certainly from the outside, Katie, he was 57 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 3: very much strongly supporting the end of Stronger Futures, despite 58 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 3: the fact that it destroyed people's lives caused crime and 59 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 3: carnage across the territory and was a horrific chapter in 60 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: our history. 61 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: I mean, at the time, we all know the outcome 62 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: of what happened. You know, Alice Springs was in an 63 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: absolute crisis in January last year, and many people would 64 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: argue that it's still in quite a crisis situation. I mean, 65 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: is it fair though, to say that these shares would 66 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: have meant then that it was clouding his judgment on 67 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: whether or not to extend alcohol restrictions. 68 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: But that's exactly why there are rules in place to 69 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: govern and protect the community and members of Parliament from 70 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 3: getting in these situations in the first place. And now, Katie, 71 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: the reality is people will never know and the cloud 72 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 3: over that decision making creates an integrity void in this government. 73 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: It creates uncertainty and it's totally unacceptable. It just doesn't 74 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 3: meet the pub test or community expectation. And you know, 75 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 3: our new Chief Minister, Eva Lawler is the one who 76 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 3: hands the deputy role. You know, she was also in 77 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: cabinet at the time of this decision, and so we 78 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 3: would expect that she would be having a very serious 79 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 3: conversation with him today asking him to do the right 80 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 3: thing and stand down, because how many times can this happen? Katie, 81 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 3: with this same government. 82 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: It seems unbelow. 83 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 3: Will they ever learned that they're not above the rule? 84 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: Well, and the thing is a precedent has now been set. 85 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: We've got a situation where the Chief Minister, the then 86 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: Chief Minister Natasha files, she didn't disclose those shares. It 87 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,239 Speaker 1: was then found out she divested, then there was further 88 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: shares and she stood down. So a precedent real has 89 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: been set here now from what we can gather, we 90 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: have put in a request to speak to the Attorney General, 91 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: to no avail at this point in time. We've been 92 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: told it's a very very busy beak week with parliamentary 93 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: sittings underway. But I would argue that he needs to 94 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: come out and he needs to answer some questions now. 95 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: He has issued a statement to us this morning saying 96 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: that I have always complied with the Ministerial Code of 97 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: Conduct and the Legislative Assembly Disclosure of Interests Act of 98 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. The Chief Minister has this morning 99 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: announced a review of ministerial conflict of interest controls and 100 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: will release the terms of reference today. Since becoming the 101 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: Deputy Chief Minister. I have divested all shares. Does that 102 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: go far enough? Is the divestment of those shares, in 103 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: your opinion, enough. 104 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: No, I don't think it is, and I don't think 105 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: it's enough for the community. Again, this is about when 106 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: you hold a ministerial portfolio. There are rules around what 107 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 3: type of pecuniary interest you can have. Those rules are 108 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: very clearly set out. And the fact that he's now 109 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 3: the deputy there's no difference on whether or not he 110 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: held those shares. It was his conduct as a minister 111 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,119 Speaker 3: and the holding of shares as a minister. And again 112 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 3: this idea that they can have total disregard for the rules, 113 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 3: they're above the rules, and it just doesn't meet any 114 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 3: community standard. It's not the behavior we want to see 115 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: of a government. It creates uncertainty, It undermines the decision 116 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 3: making of this government. Yet again, Katie, and again it's 117 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: not the first time, it's not the second time. So 118 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: we're seeing a pattern of behavior and you know, we're 119 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: calling on evil Laula to do the right thing here 120 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: and make Chancy fallen. He saught as well. This is 121 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 3: just an absolute disgrace. We're six months out from an election, 122 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: and quite frankly hollow promises from her around reviewing code 123 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,239 Speaker 3: of conduct is too little, too late. What we're talking 124 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: about is behavior that's already taken place. 125 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: Look, I will go into some further detail about exactly 126 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: what they have announced, this complete review of Ministerial code 127 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: of interest controls. I'll take our listeners through that a 128 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: little bit later this morning. But Lea, can you guarantee 129 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: that the members on your team do not have any 130 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: conflicts of interest and do not hold shares in any 131 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: you know, any companies or anything really that is. 132 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: Going to put you guys in this same situation. 133 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: Yep. The Ministerial Code of Conduct is very clear. My 134 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: team are very much across all of the details around that. 135 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: If we're successful in August, we can guarantee total compliance. 136 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: We've already completely aligned ourselves to be ready to govern 137 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 3: in that respect. So there is no issue on the 138 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 3: CLP benches on this, Katie, none whatsoever. What we've got 139 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 3: is a government continuing to be caught out and this 140 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: behavior is just I mean, people would just be shaking 141 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,239 Speaker 3: their heads this morning saying, well, who's next, what's next 142 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 3: to come? You know, they the level of dissent within 143 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 3: this team that we have governing the territory is profound. 144 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: So Leah, you can guarantee to our listeners this morning 145 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: that none of the members of your team have shares 146 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: in anything that's going to come back and bite them 147 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: at any point, you know, over any of your policies 148 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: or anything that you're putting into place before the election. 149 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 3: Yep, that's right, Katie. Everything is organized on our side, 150 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 3: and of course the Minister of Credit Conduct will apply 151 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 3: to us, just like it applies to Labor will apply 152 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 3: to us if we win, and I can assure Territorians 153 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 3: there will be no issues on this side. 154 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: All right. 155 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: So today we know that parliament resumes in the Northern 156 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: Territory and for the first time, of course, it is 157 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four, and it's with Evil Lawler as 158 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: the new Chief Minister. This certainly isn't a good start 159 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: for her and for her leadership. I'm assuming that this 160 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: is certainly going to be on the colp's agenda today. 161 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Katie. It's on the agenda along with a 162 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 3: lot of other failure of this government. We've also put 163 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 3: a matter of public importance forward around this government's failures 164 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 3: to properly build resilience into the territories road capacity, rail capacity, 165 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 3: flood response, because for the second year in a row 166 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 3: we've seen total carnage with washouts on the Stuart Highway, 167 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 3: flooding impacting accessibility, groceries not on shelves, town's being isolated 168 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 3: and left to fem for themselves. So we're very concerned, 169 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 3: particularly you know, it is the wet season, we continue 170 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 3: to face monsoon and we feel that this is a 171 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 3: very important issue to tens of thousands of people across 172 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 3: the territory. So we will also be prosecuting that today. 173 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: But unfortunately today from labor we're seeing largely puff. This 174 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: is Eva Laula following the steps of her predecessors. We've 175 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 3: had three Chief Ministers in three years and she's following 176 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 3: the same hymn sheet with talking about herself all day. 177 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 3: So well, legislation today just Iva Lala talking about. 178 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 2: Well, yesterday she planned. 179 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: Yesterday she did, indeed deliver the year a head speech. 180 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: She outlined her vision for the Northern Territory. What did 181 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: you make of. 182 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 3: That hollow, empty promises for six months to go? I 183 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 3: mean I was actually enraged, Katie. If I can be 184 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: honest she said they were going I was serious when 185 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 3: she said that they are going to do a review 186 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 3: of the Youth Justice Act. I just felt like that 187 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 3: was the greatest kick in the guts to Territorians, to 188 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 3: the two hundred and twenty thousand people who've been victims 189 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 3: of crime, to everyone who wants to be safe on 190 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 3: their home, in their business and in their streets. I mean, 191 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 3: it is this government that destroyed the Youth Justice Act 192 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 3: in the first place. Is this government that took away 193 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: strengthened bow laws. It took away power for police, It 194 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: took away consequences for youth offenders, and people have suffered, 195 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 3: people have died, people will remain permanently shuttered by things 196 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 3: that have happened in this period, and now they have 197 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:02,479 Speaker 3: the goal to call a review. I just think it's reprehensible. 198 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: Lia she said yesterday, I've heard from Territorians in the 199 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: two months that I've been the Chief Minister that people 200 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: aren't happy with what's going on with young people in 201 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory. 202 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: Sounds like you don't buy that at. 203 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 3: All, Absolutely not. And this review is going to take 204 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 3: six months, so more people have to suffer at the 205 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 3: hands of a system that's broken and being broken by 206 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 3: Labor and then it will be the election. And this 207 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: is in stark contrast to the CLP, Katie. We don't 208 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 3: need a review to tell us that Labour's Youth Justice 209 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 3: Act is broken. What we need is to give police 210 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 3: greater powers, which is exactly what clpeople do. It is 211 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 3: to lower the age of criminal responsibility, to make sure 212 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: young people and their parents are held accountable. Is about 213 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 3: strengthening bail so that people who are a risk of 214 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 3: the community should not be let free on our streets. 215 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 3: It is about making sure that the rights of people 216 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 3: to be safe is put above all else. Katie lid. 217 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: It does sound mental of some of the announcements that 218 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: you know, like some of the changes I should say 219 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: that the Labor government has made were as a result 220 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: of the Royal Commission, as we know that happened a 221 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: number of years ago. It sounds like you are prepared 222 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: to throw that Royal Commission and its findings out the window. 223 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. What we're prepared to do is put the rights 224 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 3: of people to be safe above everything else, including a 225 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 3: Royal Commission, Katie. And I'm not afraid to say that. 226 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 3: Whereas Labor is and the problem with her so called 227 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 3: review into the Use Justice Act is this is smoke 228 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 3: and mirrors to make it look like they're going to 229 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 3: do something before the election. But what we know is 230 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 3: that this government is blinded by ideology. They cannot bring 231 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 3: themselves to make the tough decisions around young people needing 232 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 3: to have faced serious consequences for their offending and hold 233 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 3: their parents accountable. And so what we've got is is 234 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 3: been coming from a government six months ago to an 235 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 3: election and I can tell Territorians they have no appetite 236 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 3: for change. We have put legislation up to legislation in 237 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 3: the Parliament to put make people safe, give please for 238 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 3: more power, and this Labour team have voted us down 239 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 3: every single time. Do not believe for a second listener 240 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 3: that after the election they will make any meaningful change 241 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: to drive down crime. The only way to make the 242 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 3: territory safe is to vote z lp LEA. 243 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: That sounds like an election pitch to me, but look 244 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: stepping away from that for a while and it is well, 245 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: we're going to and our listeners are very aware of 246 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: those critical issues as I know that, you know they 247 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: call in about this every single day. You know the 248 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: issue of crime and personal safety is pretty heartbreaking stuff. 249 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: Some of the harrowing stories that we have heard over 250 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: recent you know, over recent months and years. 251 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 2: But one thing I do want to just very quickly 252 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 2: ask you about. 253 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: It was actually something that Maray Claire Boothby had mentioned 254 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: on the week that was on Friday, and it's something 255 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 1: that a lot of our listeners still are quite passionate about, 256 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: and that is those solar feeding tariffs. Now we know 257 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: that last week the all the territory government was really 258 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: spooking the fact that they've got quite a high uptake 259 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 1: of batteries. 260 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 2: But I know that back at the time. 261 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: When those feed in tariffs had changed, you'd made a 262 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: commitment that you would not make those changes as extensive 263 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: or as. 264 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 2: Big I guess as what Labor had. 265 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: What exactly is the CLP's policy on this as we 266 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: lead into the election. 267 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Katie, no worries. It's a great one because 268 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 3: this goes straight to the heart of cost of living 269 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 3: and so Eva Laula is the minister who slashes feed 270 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 3: in tariff. She then told people maybe grandfathered on the 271 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 3: old system, only for a year later to say oh sorry, 272 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 3: trick you and take people off the grandfathering of the 273 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 3: higher rate. 274 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: So what are you guys going to drop for? 275 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 3: I can tell you. So the CLP came out at 276 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: that time and it's still our commitment to take to 277 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 3: this election is that we would double the feed in 278 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 3: tariff for territory in who have rooftop solar during those 279 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 3: peak periods, and we will also double the battery bonus 280 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 3: because what we want to do is get people really 281 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: benefiting from their rooftop solar. So if we can get 282 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 3: people buying decent sized batteries subsidized course by the government, 283 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 3: we can basically help Territorians get off the grid. That 284 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 3: means they'll be using their own solar that they store 285 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: up during the day during those evening periods, the busy 286 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 3: cooking period Katie, and of course you know in those mornings. 287 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 3: So it's a really exciting point of difference for us 288 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 3: between labor and the COLP. It goes to the harder 289 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 3: cost of living, but also incentivizing people to continue to 290 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 3: invest in rooftop solar, which is something we really want 291 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: to support and we know Territorians love it. 292 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: Leah, have you costed a how much is it going 293 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: to cost Territorians to do this. 294 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 3: So what we have done is said that that I 295 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 3: think it was twelve million dollars Government proposed to save 296 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 3: from their cuts to the scheme, we would reinvest twelve 297 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 3: million dollars into our scheme, so there's no additional burden 298 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 3: on the budget, all right. 299 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: I mean one of the criticisms we are getting of 300 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: the COLP at the moment, and you and I will 301 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: be able to discuss this in the weeks and months 302 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: to come, but one of them is that there seems 303 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: to be quite a few announcements starting to come through 304 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: with a monetary value attached and people wondering how are 305 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: you're going to afford it? So that is something that 306 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: we'll focus on in the coming weeks and months. But 307 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: for this morning, Lear, I know that obviously it's going 308 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: to be a busy day with Parliament. We appreciate your time. 309 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: We will talk to you again very soon. 310 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 3: Thank you, and take care everyone. 311 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: Thank you.