1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,279 Speaker 1: Joining us live in the studio slightly lighter than usual. 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: The Lord Mayor of Darwin convat scarlets good morning. 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 2: Good morning kid apologized, but the weather actually played hihock 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: this morning. I was supposed to be in Alo opening 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: the new dog park there this morning, but we're waiting 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: for the weather to clear up. 7 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 3: I look at my bomb rather as a humans be kidding. 8 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 3: We're not going anywhere by that time would change your time. 9 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: So that's a beautiful dog park in Alowa, fully fenced, 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: special fence for big dogs, special offends or small dogs, 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: with watering areas, with play areas for the dogs. 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 3: Because the best way. 13 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: To get the dog out of board I'm sitting in 14 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: the beard of the time is taking them out there 15 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 2: introducing to other dogs. They get too used to it 16 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,319 Speaker 2: and they don't go for the jugular. Sometimes dogs can 17 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: be very aggressive, especially if they don't know other dogs. 18 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: Well, so what was that park previously? Was it just 19 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: like a block of light? 20 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 3: It was actually a novel that nobody used it. 21 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: Nobody used it because there was some complaints about the 22 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: midges coming up and everything else. But again it is 23 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: a very very very good idea having an area like 24 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: that Let's not forget a lot of people now living 25 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: units and they don't have anywhere to take their dogs. 26 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 3: That give an opportunity for people to take their. 27 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 2: Dogs out and the dog they're not bored, they don't yep, 28 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: they don't bark, they don't drive the naborscration. 29 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: What's a good thing to do? I think you need 30 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: dog parkstion et places that are friendly for our animals. Whereabouts? 31 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: Is it in Ala? 32 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: It's if you go to the newly fully constructed Clakes 33 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 2: I drive that we just finished this year on your 34 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: left hand side, just after you pass the community garden. 35 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so just say and how long go to the open? 36 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: I reckon it? Or it's today the official. 37 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: Learning yesterday, excellent open yesterday, beautiful weather today a bit muddy. 38 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: So you're not taking your dog today. Let's drive for 39 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: a while and take it out there for Christmas. 40 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: Well, unless your dog enjoys a round in the in 41 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: the weather, it which smell afterwards in the car that 42 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: bothers exactly exactly. Well, that's good news. Con sounds like 43 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: i'd a good initiative. Was it an expensive initiative? 44 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: No, no it was not. It was a less than 45 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: two hundred thousand dollars something like that. But again, and 46 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: it's most of the area was there that most of 47 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: it was actually put the fencing on and the other equipment. 48 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: It's not an expensive one because this is going to 49 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: last for the next ten to twenty years, so if 50 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 2: you amortize it, it's a very little expense for a 51 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: very very big game. 52 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt people in the northern suburbs, particularly around 53 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: that area, will big plays. That is happening Corne. It's 54 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: been a busy year, There's no doubt about it. So 55 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: you've been in every week. It has to catch up 56 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: with us and. 57 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 3: In a different year. 58 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 2: I remember last year this time actually I was visiting 59 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 2: my mother in Greece, and of course we flew into 60 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: this perfect storm. We flew to China watching what happened 61 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 2: in Wuhana, and then we came here and the world 62 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 2: changed as we know it. And of course here that 63 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: we were safe, but we actually faced the problems the 64 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: other states faced. 65 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: You remember very well, went to a lockdown. We remember 66 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: very well that we had. 67 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: Soops closed and we first situation we had a we 68 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: do you know what was happening? When things will go 69 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 2: back to normal and they belong took we realized was 70 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: not going back to normal and counsel. To our credit, 71 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: they did a tremendous job. First of all, we realized 72 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: that people were losing their jobs here and there and everywhere, 73 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: so we did everything possible to keep that alive. We 74 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: brought the first time ever they might down vouchers that 75 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: pumped about six million dollars with the economy, which actually 76 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: very welcome for the small business. We had the Green 77 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 2: Army employing people that lost their jobs. They were entitled 78 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: to the job start and that was great. With suspending 79 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: payments to all the owners that they had business on 80 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: council property, then we went back and had the look 81 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: how people are going to pay rates, all the professional 82 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: owners that they had tenants their own business in their 83 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: business if they actually relieved them from the paying the rent. 84 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: We said, okay, if you do that to them, we 85 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: will do something for you, and we relieve the payment 86 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: of rates for a quarter. 87 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: For residential we kept. 88 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: Rates at the same level likes year zero percent, and 89 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: then we thought we have to do something about it, 90 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: so we actually put a lot of money in the economy. 91 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: We'll put about fifty million dollars incentive altogether out of 92 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: the economy. 93 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: And you've seen what we've done. I mean, look at 94 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: daily streets, million dollars. 95 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: It's been done great an. 96 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely, we put four toilets, public toilets. Everybody talks about 97 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: public toolange Jinglely Calum Bay in the rapid cricket foreshow 98 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: the one in the explanet here with t tremendous jobs. 99 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 3: And we will continue to so because you know, you can't. 100 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: Say, oh, things will get better, Well, what if we're 101 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 2: still locked next year? And from what we see is 102 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: the vaccine will come, but we would not know for 103 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: sure until the middle of the next year. 104 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: And the Council is, I suppose in a better financial 105 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: state than what the Northern Territory government is. I mean, 106 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: we know the Northern Territory government's in a pretty tough 107 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,679 Speaker 1: financial state and that's been well documented over the years. 108 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 1: But the Council is actually in a pretty good financial state. 109 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: Well, look, the reality is we've got good reserves. 110 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 2: Now. The problem I had all these year years we 111 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: actually the previous countries keep putting money in the bank 112 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: and they didn't spend any money for public infrastructure. My 113 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 2: question is, okay, you have the money in the bank. 114 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: But what do you do with that money in the 115 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: bank means nothing, So what we decided says okay. First 116 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: of all, we look in our function. Our CEO found 117 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: out about three million dollar savings from within the organization. 118 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 2: We use these savings to do some of the public work. 119 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: So we didn't touch our resources. Even with the forgiving 120 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: rates for a year still we didn't touch our savings. 121 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 3: But the savings are there. 122 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: We're going to use some of the savings now for 123 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 2: the Casurina swimming pool reconstruction and for the Civic center reconstruction. 124 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: We have some major problems. We've got publies burst in 125 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: Casina every second week. We've got problems with the polls 126 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 2: that don't. 127 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 3: Comply with the national standards because. 128 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 2: When they were built, were built with the Imperial system, 129 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: so the fifteen minute poll is forty seventy. Our civic center, 130 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: we can't actually protect our people. Intruders can work in 131 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: any time. During the COVID we find out that everybody 132 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 2: was on top of each other. We couldn't even provide 133 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: this protection and duty of care to our staff. 134 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 3: And we had people coming through the roof. 135 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: We don't comply with some of these standards of todays 136 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: and we really we have to seriously look, what are 137 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 2: we're going. 138 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 3: To do today? 139 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: When do you reckon you're going to start that work 140 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,799 Speaker 1: on the civic center or on the civic precinct. 141 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 2: Well, we actually are now for public consultation. We want 142 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 2: to actually ask people what they want with regards to 143 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: public forums, Like for public facilities, do they want a 144 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: town hall. 145 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 3: We don't have a townhold in down believe it or not. 146 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: A library there, or a facility to display all the objects. 147 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 3: We've got a gallery. 148 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 2: So we will ask to them because there's certain thing 149 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: we have to do for our stuff which we have 150 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: to and other things that the public wants. You won't 151 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: have a wedding, a civil wedding. Where are you going 152 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 2: to do it? You can only do it at the registrar. 153 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 2: Why can we do it in a beautiful area in 154 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: the council overlooking the new stage square. So we're going 155 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 2: to the public to see what they want, the same 156 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: way we went we went for the casual Ina pool color. 157 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: I've got a message to one of our listeners that 158 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: says less than two hundred thousand for a dog park, 159 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: says the Lord and a cheerful voice. Please remind con 160 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: that some people are having a hard time paying. 161 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 2: Their rates and that's a little what we kept them 162 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: a zero percent increase, and that's the reason what we 163 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: said to people, if you've got a problem with your age, 164 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: come and talk to us. We're very very happy to 165 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: discuss a payment plan or suspension of that one. Yes, 166 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: we know people there they've got problems paying their age, 167 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: but at the same time they've got people out there 168 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: they're fed up with dogs barking because people have no 169 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: way to take their dogs. Also dogs being aggressive or attacking. 170 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: I know some people think that it's a waste of money, 171 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: but I'll tell you what you talk to some of 172 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: the people they actually have to put up with these 173 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: dogs is thank. 174 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 3: God for that. 175 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: Well, you do need to have those public facilities as well, 176 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: and I think that very often it's easy for us 177 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: all to be very critical of where money is being spent, 178 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, money does need 179 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: to be invested into different things to deliver for the community. 180 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,679 Speaker 1: And you know, much like the toilets last week, obviously 181 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: we had a big discussion about that. The amount of 182 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: money that it costs for those toilets. Plenty of us, 183 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: you know, quite critical of how expensive it is. But 184 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: I tell you what, I never realized that it costs 185 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,119 Speaker 1: three hundred thousand dollars to have one of those self 186 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: cleaning toilets. It's a phenomenal amount of money. But then 187 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: if we didn't have those toilet facilities, we'd all be 188 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: up in arms. 189 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: Well, people all the time asking me why you don't 190 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: have more toilets in the CVD. The only tourlets we've 191 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: got to the CBD is inside the underground the car park, 192 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: so we put toilets in the CVD. But the thing 193 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: you have to remember, it's not only about putting a 194 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: toilet just drow a toilet somewhere. You have to bring power, 195 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: water shurts if it's not there. That's an add on cost. 196 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 2: It is expensive to do business in Darwin, especially when 197 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: there are no services. At the same time, think about 198 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: yourself being caught out wanted to go to the toilet 199 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 2: and there's no public toilet. I'll bet you you're going 200 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 2: to curse me overweight home because when you have to 201 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: go you have to go similar sight well. 202 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: But also you know, places like Culumba, we do actually 203 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: need facilities down there, There's no doubt about it. If 204 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: you're down there with your family enjoying fish and chips, 205 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: you've got to make sure that you're able to or anything, really, 206 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: anything that you're eating. You've got to make sure that 207 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: there's somewhere to go to the toilet. 208 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 2: The government spent that million dollars upgrading the colum and certainly, 209 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 2: if you're going to attract people by beautifying the place 210 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: and they're not public toilets, a waste of time and 211 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 2: a waste of money. People will go once, they will 212 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: not go again. The other thing I know, people say, oh, 213 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 2: why cal And Bay Calan Bay. Actually, Calm Bay is 214 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: not like the water front Colum Bay. Actually it is 215 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: part of Dowen City Council. The vote in the elections 216 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: and the pay rates. Yes, they've got their own little 217 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: area because it was created like that. But at the 218 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 2: same time they do contribute to the coffers of the 219 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: Dowensity Council and I think they deserve a toilet. 220 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: Well, combat scarluts. We are going to have to wrap 221 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: up at Merry Christmas and we'll catch up with you 222 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: again in January. 223 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: Just make sure that they don't do you drive, don't 224 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: do anything say we want you back here in our community. 225 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 2: We love you, we need you, and certainly enjoy your family. 226 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: And hopefully twenty twenty one will be much much better 227 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: and different than twenty twenty. 228 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: Yes, let's hope so, Combat Scarluts, good to speak with you, 229 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: Thanks for your time this year. 230 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: Good morning, Katie, you too,