1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Arunda 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: Bunjelung Kalkotin woman from Gadighl country. The Daily oz acknowledges 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on the lands of the 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: Gadighl people and pays respect to all Aboriginal and Torres 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: Strait Island and nations. We pay our respects to the 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: first peoples of these countries, both past and present. 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: Ready, ready, good morning, and welcome to the Daily os. 8 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 2: It is Tuesday, the thirtieth of August. I'm Sam, i'm Zarah. 9 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 3: Pakistan is experiencing its worst flood since twenty dead. 10 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: Mud and water slam into Billy God. 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: Water is so powerful they brought down a multi story building. 12 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: Roads and swallowing entire communities. Over a thousand people have 13 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: died in floods in Pakistan. In today's deep dive, we're 14 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: going to look at what happened and how the government 15 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: is responding. But first, Sarah, what's making headlines this morning? 16 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: Pm Anthony Alberzi spoke at the National Press Club yesterday 17 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 3: on the one hundredth day since he formed government in May. 18 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 3: It is shocking to think it's been that long since 19 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 3: the election. During the address, Albanesi said Australia needs to 20 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 3: quote enhance our reputation with potential migrants, but didn't identify 21 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 3: when the current migrant cap would be lifted. The New 22 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 3: South Wales government will be offering up to ten free 23 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: rapid antigen tests for pensioners and other concession holders in 24 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: a program that will run until October. In a statement, 25 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 3: New South Wales Minister Victor Dominello said the measure would 26 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 3: help drive down the cost of living where it can 27 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: for vulnerable people. 28 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: And in today's good news, more than one point four 29 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: billion dollars is expected to be raised for philanthropic causes 30 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: when the personal art collection of Paul Allen, who was 31 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: the late co founder of Microsoft, is auctioned off in November. 32 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: Works from Monday, Renoir and Bodicelli are expected to go 33 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: under the hammer, while one masterpiece is expected to be 34 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: sold for more than one hundred and forty five million dollars. 35 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 2: Turns out it is all about the my name, all right. 36 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 3: So today's topic is a confronting one, especially when you 37 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 3: consider the human costs, but it is definitely important to 38 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 3: talk about. Sam. Can you give us an overview of 39 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: what's happened to Pakistan. 40 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: On Sunday, Pakistani officials announced that one thousand and thirty 41 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: three people had been killed by flooding since June. Now 42 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: it's estimated that millions of people have also been displaced, 43 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: and the Pakistani Climate Change Minister estimates that one third 44 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: of the country could be underwater by the time the 45 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: floods subside. 46 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: Is this type of flooding unusual for the region? 47 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: Well. 48 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: The floods are a result of an unusually wet monsoon season. 49 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 2: The official monsoon season in Pakistan starts on July one 50 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: and goes until September, so we're right in the middle 51 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 2: of it now, with most of the rain in that 52 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 2: time normally focused around July and August. But this year 53 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: the heavy rain came early and it started in late June, 54 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: and the August rains have also been unusually heavy, with 55 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: two and a half times the normal rainfall. In one 56 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: particular province, it has rained almost eight times the normal amount, 57 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: and the Pakistani Climate Change Minister Sherr Rahman said quote, 58 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: this is completely unprecedented and the country's infrastructure is paralyzed 59 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: and our people are desperate for shelter and food. 60 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 3: I feel like it's impossible to be having these discussions 61 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 3: about extreme weather events without talking about the elephant in 62 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 3: the room, in this case, it being climate change. What 63 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 3: do we know about the link between climate change and 64 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 3: what's happening in Pakistan? 65 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: Well, the Climate Change minister said the weather event was 66 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: quote a climate catastrophe, and she said there's been continual 67 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: extreme weather events in Pakistan since February of this year. 68 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: She's called for more resilient infrastructure to be created that 69 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: can withstand increasingly common disasters such as the current flooding. 70 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: And I guess architecturally this could mean stuff like houses 71 00:03:59,000 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: on stilts. 72 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 3: Okay, So that's talking about what the government is looking 73 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: to do in the future. What do we know about 74 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: how the Pakistani government have responded to this specific disaster. 75 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: So Pakistan's Prime Minister, his name is Shabbaz Sharif, has 76 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: declared a state of emergency. The government has committed one 77 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: million Pakistani rupees, which is about six and a half 78 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: thousand Australian dollars, to the families of people who have 79 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: lost their lives during the floods. They're also going to 80 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: provide about one and a half thousand Australian dollars for 81 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 2: those injured and impartially damaged houses and just over three 82 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: thy two hundred Australian dollars for totally destroyed houses. Sharif 83 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: has also called for international aid and says he's been 84 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: in contact with international financial institutions and what he describes 85 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: as friendly countries for assistance. 86 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: So I read that the uae, US and UK have 87 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 3: all contributed to this disaster assistance. What have we heard 88 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 3: from our government here in Australia. 89 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: We haven't had an official announcement from the Australian government, 90 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: but there is precedent here for Australia helping out Pakistan 91 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: at times like this. We can go back twelve years 92 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: to twenty ten when Pakistan experienced catastrophic floods, the Australian 93 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: government shipped in ten million dollars in assistance. 94 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: Whenever there is a disaster like this, there is of 95 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 3: course a huge humanitarian impact, but there is also an 96 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 3: economic impact. How are we understanding what's happened to Pakistan's economy? 97 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: Well, Pakistan's Foreign minister has said the economic impact is 98 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 2: estimated to be the equivalent of five point eight billion 99 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 2: Australian dollars. So, according to local media. Part of this 100 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 2: is due to the destruction of crops in flooded regions. 101 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 2: We know of two provinces that have lost their sugar 102 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 2: cane and cotton crops, and there's other food crops that 103 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: have been damaged as well. Now, on top of all 104 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: of that, there's millions of tons of wheat in storage 105 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 2: that has been spoiled and can no longer be sold. 106 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: Add the seven hundred and ten thousand livestock that have 107 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 2: been lost. All of that together paints a pretty concerning 108 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 2: picture not only of the nation's economy, but also you 109 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 2: have to remember this is the nation's food stocks as well. 110 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: It's an absolutely horrific situation that's unfolding in Pakistan, but 111 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 3: it certainly isn't an isolated incident, and I think that's 112 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 3: important to keep in mind when we talk about natural 113 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 3: disasters on this scale. We're seeing them occur more frequently 114 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 3: and in more severe forms all around the world. I mean, 115 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 3: at the same time as we're having this discussion, there 116 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 3: are heat waves on other sides of the world. So 117 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: it's certainly important to hear the Pakistani Climate Change Minister 118 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 3: making that very clear, inexorable link between climate change and 119 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: the effects that it's having on the Pakistani people in 120 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 3: the form of this horrific flooding. You might have noticed 121 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 3: that this episode sounds a little different, and that's because, 122 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: after a lot of thought and careful consideration from the 123 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 3: TDA office, we've decided to change our theme for the podcast. 124 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 3: While the one we had has been very good to 125 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 3: us over the last year and captured what the Daily 126 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 3: OS is about. It was light and fun and felt 127 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 3: like it was about the good news, which is very 128 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 3: important to us. But we find that on days like today, 129 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 3: for example, where we're talking about death and loss, we 130 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 3: need something that has a bit more sensitivity that captures 131 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 3: the full spectrum of the news. So here it is 132 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: our new theme from composer Sam Weeks. 133 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:27,119 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us on the Daily Ods.