1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: You're about to listen to My Favorite Tip episode, where 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: I select one of my favorite tips that I've heard 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: on this show. But I want to know what your 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: favorite tip has been that you've heard on How I Work, 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: because I'm putting together a short series of listeners favorite 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: tips that I'll be releasing next month. To submit a tip, 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: email me a voice memo or a note to Amantha 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: at Inventium dot com dot Au. That's Amantha at Inventium 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: dot com dot Au and you can get my email 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: from the show notes. You might even want to mention 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: how you've applied the tip in your own life. The 12 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: modern office dress code is a pretty nebulous thing nowadays. 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: Most industries have been slowly moving away from strict business 14 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: attire for decades now. The full suit and tie gave 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: way to the business shirt before modern tech entrepreneurs popularize 16 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: the image of a T shirt and jeans as the 17 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: uniform of the workaholic disruptor. And that's all before we 18 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: started working from our couches. But Chris Oliver Taylor, the 19 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: director of production for Netflix Australia and New Zealand, doesn't 20 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: want to hang up his suit for good just yet. 21 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: When he first left his job at the ABC, he 22 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: bounded into an interview for a new position dressed in 23 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: a T shirt and jeans. When he accepted the job, 24 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: his new mentor told him that his first port of 25 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: call was to go out and get a suit. He's 26 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: never been entirely short if she just wanted him to 27 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: dress a bit sharper, but he found deeper meaning in 28 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: that advice, nonetheless, to smarten up. My name is doctor 29 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: Amantha Immer. I'm an organizational psychologist and the founder of 30 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: Behavioral science Consultancy Inventium. And this is how I work, 31 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: a show about how to help you you do your 32 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: best work. On today is my Favorite Tip episode. We 33 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: go back to an interview from the past and I 34 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: pick out my favorite tip from the interview. In today's show, 35 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: I speak with Chris Oliver Taylor, and Chris has received 36 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: a lot of advice over his very illustrious career, and 37 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: I was keen to know which pieces had stuck with 38 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: him and served him. Well. 39 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: There's two bits. One's facetious and funny maybe but important. 40 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: Other ones maybe more serious. So the first one was 41 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 2: come from a wonderful former colleague of mine called Sandra 42 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: Levy and Sandra used to the director of TV at 43 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: the ABC and a esteemed media leader, wonderful, wonderful person 44 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 2: who gained my break at the ABC when she didn't 45 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: need to. And she offered me the job as head 46 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: of production, probably years before I was ready. And I 47 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 2: came up to Sydney for Melbourne and I was in 48 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: my jeans, T shirt and bound into the office ready 49 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: for this meeting with Sandra. That sound was quite formidable 50 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: and a very I didn't know her at all well, 51 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 2: so thinking, oh, okay, fine, So I went in there 52 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 2: and we had a commentment of the job. Do you 53 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 2: want the job? Yes, I'd love the job. Good, go 54 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: and buy yourself a suit. With her advice, and I 55 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: think what that meant to mean, I took it kind 56 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: of heart, was smart enough. You know, be professional, this 57 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: is this is this is important, and you've got to 58 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 2: have an image to some degree that for you know, 59 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: the chords with the organization you work for, or the 60 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 2: role that you hold, or of course the image you 61 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: want to project. And that even though she may not 62 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 2: quite meant it in that way, I took that away. 63 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: Let your advice around. Remember you're always on show, You're 64 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: always auditioning. You're always performing, you're always pitching, and so 65 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: make sure that how you're projecting yourself matches who you 66 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: are working with. And so I've always get that very 67 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: front center. And the second one, which is really I 68 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: think for producers to take heed of, you know people 69 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: on this side of defense that I am. As I 70 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: was leaving the ABC to join match Box, they were 71 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: owned by NBC, and my NBC boss said to me, 72 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: and his name is Michael, Michael Elston, another really amazing 73 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: leader who I learned so much from. Michael said, now, 74 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: remember at the ABC, you can do nothing. You can 75 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: send no emails, make no phone calls, never leave your 76 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: office if you like, and the work will pile up 77 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 2: outside your door. You will open your door and there'll 78 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: be a thousand people wanting you to sign something and 79 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: answer this and do that because you're in a broadcaster 80 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: and work just happens once you leave that and you 81 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: join the other side, where you have to generate everything. 82 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 2: If you do nothing, nothing happens. You have to generate everything, 83 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: generate momentum, generate those phone calls, generate relationships, and generate 84 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: a culture. And I've always kept that really front and 85 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 2: center that if you do nothing outside of a most jobs, 86 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 2: if you do nothing, nothing happens. You have to generate everything 87 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: and make it happen. And so I've kept that really 88 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: close to me as my career has continued on. 89 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: If you're looking for more tive to improve the way 90 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: that you work, I write a short fortnightly newsletter that 91 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: contains three cool things that I've discovered that helped me 92 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: work better, ranging from software and gadgets that I'm loving 93 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: through to interesting research findings. You can sign up to 94 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: that at howiwork dot com. That's how I Work dot co. 95 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: How I Work is produced by Inventium with production support 96 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: from Dead Set Studios. And thank you to Matt Nimba 97 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: who does the audio mix for every episode and makes 98 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: everything sound so much better than it would have otherwise. 99 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: See you next time.