WEBVTT - G’s hotline ☎️ Where do you cross the line?

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<v Speaker 1>The Rising Conquer Podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of the

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<v Speaker 1>and terrest Raid Islander peoples today. Hello and welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Rise and Conquer Podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the podcast for ordinary.

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<v Speaker 1>People who want to do extraordinary things. Hello and welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Rise and Conquer Podcast. It is your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Georgie Stephenson and guys. Back to our regular programming. I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to apologize for the quality of this intro clip.

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<v Speaker 1>She has not yet mastered Mum and Business Life and

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<v Speaker 1>I rushed home for Ivy Girl and I was yet

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<v Speaker 1>to record this intro, So poor Jamie has to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with a voice note and she's just got to make

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<v Speaker 1>it sound good.

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<v Speaker 3>So the rest of the episode is higher quality. Do

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<v Speaker 3>not stress.

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<v Speaker 1>But I am back with another geez hotline. So today

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<v Speaker 1>we are answering some saucy qs. We have the question

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<v Speaker 1>of how to make a decision when you're at a crossroads,

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<v Speaker 1>should you tell your friend if you find out their

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend cheated on them? And also we hear about a

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<v Speaker 1>very wild divorce toory situation as always a tear and

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<v Speaker 1>I provide our unqualified but very enthusiastic opinion on these questions.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys know Fridays, it's a bit of fun. But

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<v Speaker 1>before we get into the episode, I did want to

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<v Speaker 1>give you my weekly recommendation. I'm watching this new TV

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<v Speaker 1>show at the moment called The Split. It's on Apple TV.

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<v Speaker 1>I did have to pay for it, but I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a feeling you can get it somewhere else, so maybe

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<v Speaker 1>do a bit of research.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's just basically about.

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<v Speaker 1>A family of family lawyers, so that all women. As

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<v Speaker 1>you guys know, I used to work in family law.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, I'm just like so attracted to

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<v Speaker 1>this TV show. I think the reason why I like

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<v Speaker 1>it is because all the characters are just real people.

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<v Speaker 3>They're just I don't know, they're just real.

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<v Speaker 1>People and very entertaining a lot of drama, but it

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<v Speaker 1>just it feels very real. Yeah, I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. It took a little bit to get into it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm really into it now. And I just I

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<v Speaker 1>love anything with like a lot of drama. There's cheating

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<v Speaker 1>and just a lot happening, and I I just love

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<v Speaker 1>drama that's not in my life. So that is a

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<v Speaker 1>new show that we have been watching. I'm also reading

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<v Speaker 1>a new book. I'm not fully sold on it yet,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm just gonna keep a pin in that and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll probably tell you next week in my recommendations.

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<v Speaker 3>But guys, I hope you enjoy this.

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<v Speaker 1>Potty and I will chat to you in our next episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 4>My friend is getting a divorce. Nothing bad happened and

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<v Speaker 4>they haven't been married too long. It just seems they

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<v Speaker 4>got married very quickly. So she's planned this entire divorce

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<v Speaker 4>party weekend where she expects us to pay more than

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<v Speaker 4>we did for her hands to go away for the

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<v Speaker 4>weekend and party to celebrate the halfway mark of her divorce.

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<v Speaker 4>It wouldn't even be completed yet. She's also doing things

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<v Speaker 4>like printing shirts with his face and the rude finger.

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<v Speaker 4>He has done nothing bad to her and they have

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<v Speaker 4>a chiled together, which she somewhat manipulated him into having

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<v Speaker 4>by lying about being on birth control. And since they've separated,

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<v Speaker 4>she has been going on Tinder and sleeping around, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 4>which I guess is fine, but he hasn't done any

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<v Speaker 4>of that. So I'm not sure what to do about

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<v Speaker 4>this party. I don't think it should happen, and I

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<v Speaker 4>really don't want to go. I tried to broach the

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<v Speaker 4>inappropriateness of it with her over text, but she ignored

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<v Speaker 4>it and started talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>The next thing. What do I do what? That's why

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want you to read.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fucking crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I love this question so much. It's just a mess.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. So first of all, I think your

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<v Speaker 2>friend's going through a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, yeah, to you know, to.

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<v Speaker 1>Get divorced and just to have a child, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot is happening there, and there's just like

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<v Speaker 1>two sides to the story.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to just say my first kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of react, yeah, is I think it's inappropriate how she's acting,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if nothing you know, quote unquote bad has gone

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<v Speaker 1>on and she's like printing his face on t shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a bit disrespectful when it's like that's the

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<v Speaker 1>father of your child and you know there could be

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<v Speaker 1>mutual friends and that sort of side of it and

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<v Speaker 1>almost I don't know, I just get like immature vibes. Yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>like just super immature. This is like something a thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old old. Yeah, it's like how boy friend, how

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<v Speaker 1>old are you? But then, like I what I think

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<v Speaker 1>is she's probably hurting. She's like really hurting in some way,

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<v Speaker 1>because otherwise, why would you act out.

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<v Speaker 2>Like this and lends you like just a bit crazy? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>which she could be, That's what I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, she's like a little bit Yeah, that's like

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<v Speaker 1>I think you just need to go. Hey, look, I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't really feel comfortable, you know, paying all this money.

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<v Speaker 1>I would just be in front when they're and just

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<v Speaker 1>be like, you know, I've got stuff and stuff going on.

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<v Speaker 1>This money needs to go elsewhere. Also, it just makes

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<v Speaker 1>me feel a bit uncomfortable, like how hard you're going

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<v Speaker 1>with this? You know, like it just it feels uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>You could just say I feel very uncomfortable and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to support you through this, but I think maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you're going about it yeah the wrong way. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>here for you if you need a chat and that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. But it's like I will not come

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<v Speaker 1>to this party. Yeah, it just feels a bit much mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I just don't I'd even put in the

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<v Speaker 1>way of like I just don't really need this right now,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of I'm here to support you, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think this is fueling a healthy thing for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you go?

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<v Speaker 1>Look, it depends if it was like my very best friend,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd probably still go. If it was just like a girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, oh, look, sweety. But in saying that,

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<v Speaker 1>if it was my very very best friend, I'd also

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<v Speaker 1>be like, you're being fucking crazy, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd have the argument prior to the ape, and I'd be.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, we're not having a doors And then first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, let's wait till it's fully over.

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<v Speaker 2>Why are we doing this halfway?

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<v Speaker 1>Because don't get me wrong, I would be happy to

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<v Speaker 1>have a divorce party with a girlfriend if she has

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<v Speaker 1>been through a lot and it's finished and it's like.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but even if like there hasn't been bad things

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<v Speaker 4>happen and there's still a divorce involved, that is something

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<v Speaker 4>that not celebrate, but like go out for drinks with

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<v Speaker 4>the girls, have a nice night, have a girl's night.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I honestly think a divorce party is fine. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have any issues with that, but I think it's, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the way she's going about it, and it just seems.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems to be a little bit toxic. Yeah, to

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<v Speaker 2>get that toxic vibes. Yeah, very toxic. But I feel

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<v Speaker 2>a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Judgy saying this because even though this friend is like

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<v Speaker 1>he was fine, you know, blah blah blah, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>do we really know what happened in the relationship.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but like it says he that she lied to

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<v Speaker 4>him about being on birth control and that's why they

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<v Speaker 4>had a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy vibes.

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<v Speaker 1>But also yeah, look, and then also I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to make a comment this person being like she's on

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<v Speaker 1>Tinder and sleeping around, good honor.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no she's with that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like she's single, she's allowed to do that. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I'm getting kind of vibes of this person

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<v Speaker 1>being like a bit judgy about that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, since they've been separated, she's been going on tender

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<v Speaker 4>and sleeping around, which is fine, But he hasn't done

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<v Speaker 4>any of that. So I'm not sure what to do about.

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<v Speaker 2>How does this person know he hasn't done that? Point?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you mean I don't know this question's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>I completely get this question how she's feeling, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>all just feeling like.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably just like she wants to protect her friend. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>because there's probably a lot of mutual people involved, if

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<v Speaker 4>they've been married and had a child.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you need to have a serious conversation with her,

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<v Speaker 1>face to face and sit her down and just say

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<v Speaker 1>this is feeling like a bit toxic. Like, I understand

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a lot of feelings about this, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so happy to celebrate with you once the divorce is

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<v Speaker 1>over if that makes you feel better, but also I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like this is kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>The wrong way of celebrating.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think, well, just at the moment, the divorce

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<v Speaker 1>isn't even final. You know, you're going to the extent

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<v Speaker 1>of doing T shirts and just you know, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot like, let's have a serious conversation because you're obviously

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<v Speaker 1>going through a lot right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. Okay, here's a work one. Okay, a

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<v Speaker 2>job one.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm at a bit of a crossroads with work. I

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<v Speaker 4>love my job, my team and the work we do,

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<v Speaker 4>but I've applied for another job that's at a dream

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<v Speaker 4>organization because I thought why not and have moved to

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<v Speaker 4>the next round of interviews. In this same week, I

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<v Speaker 4>found out from my current work that this same organization

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<v Speaker 4>has hired me and my team to do a dream

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<v Speaker 4>project for them. I'm feeling quite stuck between the two places.

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<v Speaker 4>On the one hand, I love my job, but on

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<v Speaker 4>the other I potentially have this amazing opportunity. I just

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to ask, what is your process when making a

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<v Speaker 4>hard decision and working through crossroads in life?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? My god? Yeah? Like, I'm like, is that complict

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<v Speaker 2>of interest? Well, I'm almost a bit confused here.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's saying where she currently works is doing a

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<v Speaker 1>job for that dream place she applied for.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's what I got. So she randomly applied for

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<v Speaker 4>this dream organization. She's now made it to the next

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<v Speaker 4>round of interviews, and in that same week she's found

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<v Speaker 4>out from the current organized job.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but why they hired her team to do something?

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<v Speaker 1>But why can't she do that project while she's still

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<v Speaker 1>going through I think she could? Ah?

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<v Speaker 4>Is she saying she's saying, do I just stay I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want this job anymore? Or like okay, I It

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<v Speaker 4>sounds like she's pretty confident she'll get the job.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, so she needs to make a decision. Let's just

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<v Speaker 2>go off that. Okay. When I'm making a decision, a tiya,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I asked my journal.

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<v Speaker 1>I have this like joke guys that in the project,

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<v Speaker 1>when I need an answer for something, I literally like

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<v Speaker 1>right in my journal the question and I like meditate

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<v Speaker 1>on it until the answer comes. But that's that's a

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<v Speaker 1>very personal process. But when I'm making a decision, I

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<v Speaker 1>honestly go what was the very first gut instinct? So like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't go and poll everyone, don't go and ask a

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<v Speaker 1>million people. I almost am just like what was the

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<v Speaker 1>very gut instinct of how I felt? And I think

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<v Speaker 1>like a good thing also is instead of measuring, like

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<v Speaker 1>almost like measuring if you didn't take this new opportunity,

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<v Speaker 1>what would you lose? Because the thing is you can

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<v Speaker 1>always stay where you are, But if you don't take

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<v Speaker 1>this new opportunity or this different opportunity, would the factor

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<v Speaker 1>of what if.

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<v Speaker 2>Eat your live? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>And I think with stuff like this, I look at

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<v Speaker 4>it as there's a reason you saw that ad wait,

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<v Speaker 4>did you maybe see it on Instagram?

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<v Speaker 2>Or were you on seek? Why were you on seek?

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<v Speaker 2>If you love your job, that much. Yeah, why did

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<v Speaker 2>you even apply?

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<v Speaker 4>Like, yeah, what pulled you to apply for this job?

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<v Speaker 4>If you love your job? Why did you go to

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<v Speaker 4>the interview if you love your job so much? Because

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, if you truly knew you were in the

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<v Speaker 4>right place, you never even would have been in the

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<v Speaker 4>position to look at that ad. And if you looked

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<v Speaker 4>at it, you would have sort of scoffed at it

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<v Speaker 4>and been like, I don't need that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in the right place.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent. I feel like she's already made the decision, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you absolutely Otherwise, why would you even go for

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<v Speaker 1>the interview?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And why would you put effort into the resume?

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<v Speaker 2>And also it's kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the vibes of how I was saying the other

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<v Speaker 1>day at TEO of like, my previous life was fine.

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<v Speaker 1>There was nothing bad about it. It was fine. But

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<v Speaker 1>now you know me seven years ago it was fine.

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<v Speaker 1>But now me actually making those hard decisions and making

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<v Speaker 1>taking risks and whatnot, I'm like, holy shit, life is

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<v Speaker 1>like better than I could have imagined exactly. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think think she.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of has that niggling feeling.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I think as well, is you might just

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<v Speaker 4>have some I call them graduation goggles.

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<v Speaker 2>Or like rose colored glasses on.

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<v Speaker 4>Where when you know something's coming to an end, you

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<v Speaker 4>just all the bad floats out of your mind. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and you just think it's the best place to be time. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I will never go back to UNI.

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<v Speaker 4>Literally, right, Like, when you graduate UNI or you graduate

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<v Speaker 4>high school, you like, I've had the best time.

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<v Speaker 2>I never want to be so bad. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you leave and you're like, god, that was terrible. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>thank god, I'm out of that place exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Love.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think there might just be some of that

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<v Speaker 4>going on too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think it's okay, Like you can mourn

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<v Speaker 1>what you currently have and you can still like it

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<v Speaker 1>and still want more for yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, And I wouldn't stay at this current job just

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<v Speaker 4>because you've now got a project to do for the

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<v Speaker 4>dream organization when you literally could just that could be

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<v Speaker 4>every single day for you, not just a period of time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, amazing, quit your job, do it. Girl.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't tell you how, but I found out through

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<v Speaker 4>a trusted source that my friend's boyfriend cheated on her.

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<v Speaker 2>What do I do? Oh my god, you fucking tell her? Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>My first initial reaction is mine's like, what did you?

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<v Speaker 2>And people say what a doll?

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<v Speaker 1>Do?

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<v Speaker 2>Men are trash? This is my thoughts on this.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell us how close of a friend because my my

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<v Speaker 4>opinion when it comes to stuff like this is interesting

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<v Speaker 4>because no one ever wants to be the person to

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<v Speaker 4>tell them, but everyone would want someone to tell them.

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<v Speaker 2>And how does that work?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because like if I found out and I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>see it first, point a doubt? Yeah, because did that

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<v Speaker 4>actually happen? Is this person being over dramatic? Is it misinterpreted? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but you've also said trusted source, So I assume that

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<v Speaker 4>you know that it's happened, But then it's the message.

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<v Speaker 4>Is always a person that gets yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So my opinion is similar in regards to if it

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<v Speaker 1>is a close friend, someone you value, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>have to tell them because if they were ever to

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<v Speaker 1>find out that you knew and they didn't, that would

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<v Speaker 1>be a deal breaker for me as a friend. Oh absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be a complete deal breaker. I'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care if you weren't. For sure, you should

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<v Speaker 1>have told me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I would expect that from my closest friends, and I

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<v Speaker 4>would one hundred percent do that for all of my

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<v Speaker 4>closest friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it is kind of hard because if it's

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of like a friend of a friend, I

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<v Speaker 1>actually have a confession, Oh my god, I've actually been

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<v Speaker 1>in a situation where I know someone I am not

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<v Speaker 1>close friends. But it's like, if I saw them out,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say hi and have a chat with them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know about their life and I do know

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<v Speaker 1>for a fact that you know their partner did cheat

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<v Speaker 1>on them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so hard.

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<v Speaker 1>But for me, I did not feel like it was

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<v Speaker 1>my place and also all my business, do you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Like it felt to me like it was a.

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<v Speaker 1>Bit almost like immature to be inserting myself in someone

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<v Speaker 1>else's business when I really do not have any ties

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<v Speaker 1>with them, Like this is a person. If I never

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<v Speaker 1>saw them for the rest of my life, it wouldn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not close with them like someone from high school

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. Yeah, like more of like friend of

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<v Speaker 1>a friend vibe. But oh okay, yeah yeah, And so

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<v Speaker 1>that's the decision I made. But if it was a

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<v Speaker 1>close girlfriend or even like a kind of close girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>if it was a kind of close girlfriend, I would

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<v Speaker 1>almost go to their close friend if I was friends

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<v Speaker 1>with them and be like, hey, this is the situation,

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think and I guarantee you that.

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<v Speaker 2>Person's then going to go to that person? Are you

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<v Speaker 2>then just creating gossip? Yeah, that's what I was just

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say, Like, I think it needs to go directly

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<v Speaker 2>to that.

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<v Speaker 4>I would go directly to them, and I would say,

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<v Speaker 4>Like for all my close friends, I would go to them,

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<v Speaker 4>whether I was one hundred percent sure or not, I'd

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<v Speaker 4>be like, oh, this is what i've heard, let's work

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<v Speaker 4>through it.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred and ten percent.

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<v Speaker 4>But if it's someone I'm kind of close with that

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<v Speaker 4>I've had a personal relationship with at any point in time,

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<v Speaker 4>I would never I don't think i'd go to their

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<v Speaker 4>best friend and say it, because if I was going

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<v Speaker 4>to go to their best friend and say it, I

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<v Speaker 4>might as well go to them and say it, because

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<v Speaker 4>you know their best friend's going to be like a

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<v Speaker 4>tear told me that this person told her this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I get what you mean, true, And I.

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<v Speaker 4>Would just go one if and with people like that

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<v Speaker 4>might sound a bit rude to me to say, but

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<v Speaker 4>if they decide to cut me out, because I'm the

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<v Speaker 4>messenger who Can'm fine with it because at least I've

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<v Speaker 4>helped them.

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<v Speaker 1>So if it was someone that's like not a close friend,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just like a friend.

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<v Speaker 4>Would you do it if it's a friend of a friend, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>definitely not Ye, not my business.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how I felt.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because if it's someone i've met through someone at

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<v Speaker 4>their birthday party, Yeah, thing I use the vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just feel like it's too far. Yeah, not

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<v Speaker 2>my business. Yeah. But then it's also like it's ekey,

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<v Speaker 2>it's eky, because I would feel I would be so

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<v Speaker 2>upset if someone did that to me. Yeah, like if

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be like someone.

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<v Speaker 4>You spoke to my face exactly, I didn't tell me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe I wouldn't go out of my way to tell them.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, See, this is what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard because it's like how do we even initiate

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<v Speaker 1>that conversation?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'd hate to do it like over the gram

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<v Speaker 2>or something.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd just message them and be like, hey, I've just

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<v Speaker 4>heard something from.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I'm going to take my answer back, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to say if I was a hundred percent certain,

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<v Speaker 1>like I saw it myself with my own eyes, one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent, I would go to that person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no matter what if you saw it. But if

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<v Speaker 2>I just heard it on the grapevine. I wouldn't you.

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<v Speaker 4>Just disregard it as a roomy I just like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>then i'd tell my best friend.

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<v Speaker 1>In that. This is actually another question here, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>actually do you ever like if someone comes to you

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<v Speaker 1>and goes, I have a secret, do not tell anyone?

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<v Speaker 2>And this person's just whatever? Do you just like a

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<v Speaker 2>random person? No? No, no, so like not your best friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, just anyone comes to you they have a secret

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<v Speaker 1>or whatnot. So let's just say it to me. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>say I come to you and I have this like secret,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, do not tell anyone? Do you then

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<v Speaker 1>go and tell either like who are you close to

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<v Speaker 1>in your family? Your mom's do or like are you

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<v Speaker 1>really close with your best friend? Very Do you then

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<v Speaker 1>go and tell your mom or best friend knowing it

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<v Speaker 1>will never get back to me and they will never

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<v Speaker 1>say anything.

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<v Speaker 4>It depends who it is and what it is. Usually,

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<v Speaker 4>well just says the example me, Yeah, well.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably not because it'd be to do with work.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's just something in my life, and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>what your Mom'm gonna do?

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like if I feel the need to get

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<v Speaker 4>it off my chest, yes, I'd tell my mom. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>my mom's are pretty my mom's a vault. Yeah, Sollen, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm kind of the same. If like, there's certain people

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<v Speaker 4>who I know if I told a secret, they would

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<v Speaker 4>never tell anyone, and so I feel safe confiding in them,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm that person.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I just got to tell you, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know what.

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<v Speaker 4>Would my best friends, I'll tell them a secret of mine.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, don't tell anyone, and then their mom's message.

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<v Speaker 2>Me about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Love, You're like, you sneaky bitch.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's fine because I'm like, my mum knows all

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<v Speaker 4>your secrets.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's really cute. You guys are sweet? All right?

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<v Speaker 2>That was random? In conclusion, is what's your thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>the cheating?

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<v Speaker 4>To be honest, I'm at the point now where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>if I saw it myself, I one hundred percent would

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<v Speaker 4>tell no matter how close or far they are. If

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<v Speaker 4>I knew them and I saw them, I'd tell them. Yea,

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<v Speaker 4>if I've heard it through the grapevine. Close friends absolutely

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<v Speaker 4>would tell. If I considered that i'd tell their best friend,

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<v Speaker 4>I'd tell them straight. But if it's someone who I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know that well, I'd actually probably tell the person

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<v Speaker 4>who told me. I'd give them a bit of it

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<v Speaker 4>telling off and tell them to go tell the person

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<v Speaker 4>themselves and be like, if you saw this, it is

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<v Speaker 4>your responsibility to go tell this person. I'm happy to

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<v Speaker 4>support you through this process, but stop spreading it around

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<v Speaker 4>and go give it to the one person who deserves

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<v Speaker 4>this information, because no one else needs to know love.

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<v Speaker 2>Couldn't couldn't have said it better myself. Yeah done.

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