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Speaker 1: and terrest Raid Islander peoples today. Hello and welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the Rise and Conquer Podcasts.

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Speaker 2: This is the podcast for ordinary.

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Speaker 1: People who want to do extraordinary things. Hello and welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the Rise and Conquer Podcast. It is your host,

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Speaker 1: Georgie Stephenson and guys. Back to our regular programming. I

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Speaker 1: do want to apologize for the quality of this intro clip.

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Speaker 1: But I am back with another geez hotline. So today

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Speaker 1: we are answering some saucy qs. We have the question

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Speaker 1: I provide our unqualified but very enthusiastic opinion on these questions.

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Speaker 1: give you my weekly recommendation. I'm watching this new TV

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Speaker 1: show at the moment called The Split. It's on Apple TV.

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Speaker 1: A family of family lawyers, so that all women. As

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Speaker 4: My friend is getting a divorce. Nothing bad happened and

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Speaker 4: It wouldn't even be completed yet. She's also doing things

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Speaker 4: Probably just like she wants to protect her friend. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yep, so she needs to make a decision. Let's just

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And why would you put effort into the resume?

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Speaker 4: Where when you know something's coming to an end, you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it's okay, Like you can mourn

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, And I wouldn't stay at this current job just

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Speaker 2: My first initial reaction is mine's like, what did you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because like if I found out and I didn't

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Speaker 4: I would expect that from my closest friends, and I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it is kind of hard because if it's

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Speaker 2: That's so hard.

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Speaker 1: But for me, I did not feel like it was

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Speaker 2: Person's then going to go to that person? Are you

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Speaker 4: I would go directly to them, and I would say,

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Speaker 4: Like for all my close friends, I would go to them,

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Speaker 2: One hundred and ten percent.

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Speaker 4: But if it's someone I'm kind of close with that

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Speaker 4: tear told me that this person told her this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get what you mean, true, And I.

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Speaker 4: Would just go one if and with people like that

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Speaker 1: So if it was someone that's like not a close friend,

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Speaker 4: Would you do it if it's a friend of a friend, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because if it's someone i've met through someone at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just feel like it's too far. Yeah, not

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Speaker 2: it's eky, because I would feel I would be so

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Speaker 2: upset if someone did that to me. Yeah, like if

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Speaker 2: I'd be like someone.

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Speaker 4: You spoke to my face exactly, I didn't tell me. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: maybe I wouldn't go out of my way to tell them.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, See, this is what I mean.

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Speaker 1: It's hard because it's like how do we even initiate

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Speaker 2: And I'd hate to do it like over the gram

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Speaker 4: I'd just message them and be like, hey, I've just

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Speaker 1: Actually I'm going to take my answer back, and I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no matter what if you saw it. But if

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Speaker 2: I just heard it on the grapevine. I wouldn't you.

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Speaker 4: Just disregard it as a roomy I just like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 4: then i'd tell my best friend.

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Speaker 1: In that. This is actually another question here, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: actually do you ever like if someone comes to you

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Speaker 2: And this person's just whatever? Do you just like a

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Speaker 2: random person? No? No, no, so like not your best friend.

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Speaker 1: Well, just anyone comes to you they have a secret

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, do not tell anyone? Do you then

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Speaker 4: It depends who it is and what it is. Usually,

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Speaker 2: Probably not because it'd be to do with work.

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Speaker 1: No, it's just something in my life, and it's like

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Speaker 4: I feel like if I feel the need to get

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I just got to tell you, and you

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Speaker 2: know what.

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Speaker 4: Would my best friends, I'll tell them a secret of mine.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, don't tell anyone, and then their mom's message.

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Speaker 2: Me about it.

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Speaker 1: Love, You're like, you sneaky bitch.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's hilarious.

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Speaker 4: But that's fine because I'm like, my mum knows all

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Speaker 4: your secrets.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's really cute. You guys are sweet? All right?

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Speaker 2: That was random? In conclusion, is what's your thoughts on

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Speaker 4: I'd tell them straight. But if it's someone who I

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Speaker 4: themselves and be like, if you saw this, it is

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Speaker 4: and go give it to the one person who deserves

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