WEBVTT - Shaynna Blaze - THE MASKED SINGER - TV Presenter 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.640 TV Reload the podcast past Deep the Line and welcome 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:07.040 back guys to TV Reload. As you may know, my 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:09.840 name is Benjamin Norris and this is your podcast to 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:12.600 get all the insight goss on the popular TV shows 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:15.520 you may be watching from around the world. Undeniably, our 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:18.200 TV sets are a major part of our home entertainment, 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:21.000 and yet very little is known about how our favorite 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:23.800 shows get made. 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If you missed Shanea's performance as 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:51.479 the Singing Blue Bottle, you can check it out on 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:54.800 ten Play, and you really should because it was fantastic 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:58.080 to see her smash those songs on Monday Night. Shane 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:02.040 is an Australian interior design I'm a television personality writer 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:05.360 and former singer. She's best known for her work as 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:08.160 a co host on Selling Houses Australia and as a 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:11.919 judge on the Block. There has been much controversy about 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:14.600 her time on Network ten singing show, as The Mar 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:17.640 Singer is on at the same time as her other show, 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:20.399 The Block, which we all know is on Channel nine. 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:23.520 I personally am a huge fan of Shana and it 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:25.080 is a real joy to be able to chat with 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:27.680 her today. I will ask Shana if she asks Channel 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:30.840 nine for permission and which co stars from the Block 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:35.240 have contacted her for congratulations. Shana will discuss her singing 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:37.520 voice and how she managed to keep this gig a 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:40.680 secret even from her family and friends. We will talk 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:43.640 about Shanea's ability to sing and if she plans to 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:46.760 focus on a singing career now that everyone well and 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:49.480 truly knows that she has that voice. Plus, we will 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:51.760 get plenty of exclusives from behind the scenes of The 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:54.560 Mass Singer, which returns next Monday Night at seven thirty 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:56.840 on Network ten. And if you've fallen a little bit behind, 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:59.040 as I mentioned, before you can catch up on ten 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:03.520 play anyway, let's bring Shana into the podcast. I absolutely 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:05.720 loved catching up with Shane, and I hope you enjoyed 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:08.160 this very interesting episode of TV reload. 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:08.880 Hi. 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:14.600 Then, Hey, how are you? What a surprise? Dadda Shane? 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:17.160 I always knew that you could sing, and I knew 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.040 that you could sing well, so that part of it 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:21.200 wasn't a big shock for me. 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:22.320 Yeah. 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:24.480 I kind of knew because I knew you'd sung at 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:27.960 pubs and clubs, and I knew you'd kind of been 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:31.200 in a band because I remember talking to some girlfriends, 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:33.760 because you're friends with the whole of very famous singers 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:36.600 like Tina Arena, Danny Minogue, anyone that can sing in 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:40.919 Australia that's a woman basically, and I knew that all 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.440 of these women that would get together as friends were 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:46.000 all very good singers. So yeah, it wasn't a surprise 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:46.239 to me. 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:49.320 Oh well, there you go. Did you know it was me? 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:53.240 I did? I picked you immediately, you worked it out immediately. 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:55.800 The first episode that you sung, I picked you straight 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.600 away and I just you, Oh my gosh. And then 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.120 the second episode again and I'm watching it with my partner, 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:03.400 and I'm like, that's Shane of Blaze, it has to be. 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:06.520 But the thing that through me was that I was like, 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:08.560 you just couldn't be on two networks at the same time. 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:10.640 That's what was so good about it. I loved it. 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:11.680 How did this come about? 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:13.760 Did you need, like in an indemnity form, you know, 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:16.200 like when you're in school you get an indemnity form 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:17.000 to go to sports. 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.000 Did you have to get one of those from Channel nine? 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:22.760 No, it was just a verbal question and answer. 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:24.960 Really, it was one of those things, Look, you know, 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:28.239 this is what I want to do, and the way 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:31.160 my contract was they I was under no obligation not 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:33.000 to do it. But it is just one of those 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:35.520 respect things where you go, I want to do Are 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:36.400 you okay with it? 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:37.400 Yep, they're cool. 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:39.560 And I think that's what's so great with what I 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:41.440 do with Channel nine is they love me to do 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:43.400 what I love and they won't stop me. So I 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:46.000 was very proud of being able to do that at 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:47.480 the same time, but I sort of felt like that 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:49.880 was my little superpower of people think, oh, I can't 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.839 be she can't be on two networks, So I thought, yeah, 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:53.880 that one works for me. 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.000 I just assumed you were like, may do it and 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:58.400 beg for forgiveness later. But I guess that's probably not 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:00.880 how to have a successful care you're on television. 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.520 No, No, you've got to respect the people that you 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:04.800 work with, for sure. 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:07.720 Have you heard from Scotty cam and Shelly Craft? That's 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:09.720 what people want to know. Did they text you and 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:11.600 say that they'd seen the performance? I guess they'd have 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:12.880 to watch it back on ten play. 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:13.560 Well. 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:16.800 No, well, I know Shelley's busy at the moment, and 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:21.320 Scotty's busy too, and Neil's traveling, so Darren was the 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:25.320 only one just going what the oh my god. 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:27.840 Darren would have had to have known that was you. 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:30.280 I'm sure you've had like an after block drinks and 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:32.120 gone to karaoke at some point. 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:34.200 He had to have known that voice was yours. 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:37.000 Well, we actually sing on set half the time, like 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:38.520 you know, we have a ball doing that. 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:41.280 But no, he didn't let on that in you. 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:43.760 But it was only when it was revealed, because it 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:46.120 was one of those cases where until it was. 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:48.480 Sort of announced and sort of happening, going what's going on? 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:49.120 What's going on? 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:51.000 But I was overseas when it was announced at the 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:53.360 same time, so I wasn't really accessible. 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:55.160 Well, I love that it's pre recorded because I was 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:58.560 texting chrisy Swan and I was like, shanea blaze, I 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:00.719 picked it first week and she was like me too, 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:04.279 And she was so annoyed that she didn't go with 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:05.200 her gut instinct. 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:07.400 She said that to me, and it was just it 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:10.680 all just threw her because she had texted me going, Hi, 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:12.839 where are you and I doing the block you know, 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:14.560 blah blah blah, and so. 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:18.000 She was just like okay, So you know, she was fishing. 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.200 And I was laughing because I'm in the like, you know, 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:23.560 in the hardaway cabins out the back when she's texting me, no, no, 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:27.440 just busy, you know, when he comes back to Melbourne, sunshining, 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:29.119 lah La going for a walk. 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:30.640 She was so funny. 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:32.599 I spoke to quite a few celebrities and all of 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:35.040 them were talking about it. They were like, oh my gosh, 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:36.960 this was such a great performance. It was so good 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:40.159 to what she's singing, and it was really nice to 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:43.400 hear how many celebrities spoke so highly of you, Like 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:46.760 Chrissy texted me back and just said, you know, isn't 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:50.680 Chana just gorgeous? And was the general consensus from so 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:54.560 many people. That must be really heartwarming to hear. 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:56.039 Oh that's so lovely. 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:59.720 Yeah, And that's that's what I'm so happy about doing 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.200 the Ma Singer is because you've got the mask on 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:04.159 and no one knows who you are, so they get 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:07.680 to hear your voice and what you're doing before you revealed, 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:11.120 so that way they're judging your performance rather than knowing 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:11.680 who you are. 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:14.840 So that's what I loved about it. But then also. 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:16.560 Comes with it, like, you know, what if I did 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:18.400 a really bad job anyway and I take off the 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:20.960 mask and go, oh, please go back to your day job. 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:22.640 Not at all an actual fact. 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:25.080 I went back and I mean, this is how much 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:27.599 I love you. I went back after watching it to 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:31.520 find on YouTube different performances of you singing, which there 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:35.200 are a few of online as the Christmas Carols, which 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:38.280 was amazing, But like I got performances on the Mask 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:41.400 Singer under that pressure, you sounded the best that. 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:42.800 You've ever sounded like. 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:45.760 It was incredible, like some of those notes that you 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:48.080 were holding even when you had the mask off. Because 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.000 you know, if you've watched the show before some of 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:53.080 the slabs, Yeah, take the masks off and they're a 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:54.760 little bit that they have to sing is always a 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.560 bit atrocious as far as you're that's what I think. 0:06:57.600 --> 0:06:59.960 That's me putting words into people's mouth, but it's atrocious. 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:00.760 I'd do funny. 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.200 You were the best, Like you just lifted it again. 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:04.040 It was amazing. 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:07.640 Ah then you just making me feel so warm. Thank you. 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:11.240 I was sick as a dog. That's the hardest thing, 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:12.040 in the fact that. 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:14.920 I had been training all year because I was doing 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:17.120 some other music that you know, I just wanted to 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:17.720 be ready for. 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:19.800 But you know, before it started, I. 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:22.080 Was so sick and I'd lost my voice, and so 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:24.560 the frustration of trying to sing. But the fact I 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:26.440 could hit those notes while I was while I was 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:28.120 really sick, actually warmed. 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.040 My heart, going oh okay, yeah, I've got this, I've 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.800 got this. So thank you so much. I really, I 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:34.600 really absolutely loved it. 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:37.000 And I think the fact that it was such a 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:40.880 joyous experience behind the scenes, everybody was wonderful. You sort 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.040 of feel at your best, everyone's encouraging you at the 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:45.480 same time, and I think, you know that sort of 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:47.080 lifted me at the same. 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:48.800 Time, Well, I just want to hear more singing from you. 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.000 I think that you need. This is my thoughts, just 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.760 putting it out. Yeah, hopefully your manager's listening. But I 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:57.000 just want to see, like SHANEA Blaze cabaret night on 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:01.320 tour around Australia where you pick similar songs like Dion 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:03.520 Warwick was a great one for you, but like just 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:05.600 some of those, there's a real audience out there that 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:06.760 would love to see you do that. 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:10.080 Watch this space because I was I'm going to do 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:11.480 some performances next year. 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:14.400 They haven't been booked in yet, but definitely. You know, 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:17.480 I've been writing for a couple of years my own 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:18.240 music and. 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:22.600 Then also doing some covers. So it's really warmed my heart, 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.080 you know, wanting to do this. And if the reaction 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:28.000 has been like what you're saying, just you know, I'm 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:29.120 taken aback. 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:31.160 Thank you, it's off tap. It's crazy. 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:33.959 I heard that your daughter in law it's Emma, right, 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:36.160 I think it's your that's right. Yeah, I heard that 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:38.679 she was onto you and you, you know, kind of 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.160 had to throw her off. But what about your own kids, 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.480 Carlie and Jest, did they have any idea and like, 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:45.080 how did you throw them off the Scand. 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:47.360 The great thing is that I was away overseas so 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:50.680 they couldn't. We were only texting, so that was really exciting. 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:54.199 But before it was so funny. So before we even 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:57.000 started the show, the kids were all at a barbecue 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.720 together and Emma said, right, if Eddie and Mum's going 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.199 to do Master Singer, I reckon it's this year. And 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:04.480 she said that you know she's up there she went 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:07.679 to Sydney, and Carly said yeah, but when Mum was 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.160 in Sydney she was so sick. How could she There's 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:12.000 no way she could have done it. So there was 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:15.520 those two little battles. And so when I did the 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:17.720 first song, say a Little Prayer that used to be 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:20.240 my kid's lullaby song, and so Jess was in the 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:22.720 other room and so he hadn't even seen the performance 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.040 to start with, and he just ran straight in. 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:25.959 He goes, oh, that's. 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:30.840 Mum, that's Mum's boys. And then Emma got thrown and 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:33.400 then when Chrissy said it's me, and then so Jess 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:36.040 was just yet, that's it, that's it. And then Emma 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.040 and my daughter in Laura and Carlie my daughter were. 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:39.080 Both yes no, yes, no. 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.320 So it was just this little battle and it was 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:43.840 just the text between us while I was overseas was 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:44.960 just so funny. 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:45.760 It's so fun. 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:47.160 But do you know what I love about you as 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:50.840 well is how involved you are with your adult children's lives, 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:54.600 Like you have this beautiful relationship. I think that's really 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.080 what's one of my favorite things about you, to be honest, 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:01.240 and you know, making Country Home Rescuers really good. But actually, 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:02.840 off the top of my head, didn't you sing a 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:06.079 song for the fort which was the features you did? 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:09.560 Yeah? I did. Wrote. I wrote that with Gary Pinto. 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:12.040 So we wrote that song and it's called Lullaby to 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.200 a Son, so it just shortened it to lullaby. 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:16.080 So yeah, that one. We've done a. 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:19.920 Film clip too, so I'm releasing that and yeah, it's 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:23.559 really exciting. That was part of the igniting, you know, 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:25.520 when the kids are doing a movie. I said I'm 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:27.520 going to do a song in the movie. That was 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:29.840 just sort of the joke to start with, and then 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:34.440 that really sort of well not anymore, it happened, but 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:36.320 it was that little thing, well I'm going to do this, 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:39.120 and so that sort of reignited that the journey to 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:40.240 be singing again. 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:41.480 It really did well. 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:43.520 This is not a secret, but I have always felt 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:45.480 that there is something about you which is just a 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:47.360 lot of fun. I think it's I think it's your 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:51.640 signature laugh. It's the ability to not take yourself too seriously. 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.760 But it's also just to get the job done. Where 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:57.720 did you get that get up and go from to 0:10:57.800 --> 0:10:58.920 be able to do all this? I mean, you've one 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:03.360 celebrity apprentice. You've done so much. I've always wondered where 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:05.040 is all of that energy come from? 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:05.640 Cool? 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:09.360 I don't know, Like I came from a very quiet house. 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:11.840 You know, my auntie had lots to get up and 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.040 go and she was always painting and always doing lots 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:16.680 of things. So I think my energy could possibly come 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.240 from her. But it was my dad that had lots 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:21.600 of different He always had a finger in some different 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:23.760 pie and doing a bit of this and something else. 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:26.760 So it was always there was always this point of 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:28.960 difference going on at home of like, you know, doing 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.320 a bit of this and doing something that. Try anything 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:33.560 and give everything a go. You know you may not 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:35.360 be the best at it, but just why. 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:35.760 Not give it a go. 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:37.679 It doesn't matter if you're not good at it, so 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:39.600 you don't have to be the you don't have to 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:41.280 be the best. And I think that's sort of the 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:43.360 attitude that I've always sort of had in the back 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:43.920 of my mind. 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:46.680 I remember my dad saying something similar to me, like 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:50.120 I wasn't the best at school, Like I was very social, 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:51.400 had a lot of friends, and I had a lot 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:55.360 of wins with you know, extracurricular activities. But he always said, 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:57.760 you know, with your drawing or your singing or whatever, 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.400 the little things that you want to do. He really 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:02.839 was very proud of that and told me to push 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:03.480 those things. 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:05.440 Incorrectly beautiful, you know what I mean. 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:08.400 Yeah, that's really important to say to children, is you know, 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:10.719 to collect those things that you are truly good at 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:12.319 and make something out of those. 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:15.040 Yeah, what a beautiful dad. That's such good advice. And 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:16.960 I think that's the thing is that you. 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.800 Know, we're all worried about what other people think if 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:23.720 we fail. And I'm always it's not a failure. If 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:25.920 you don't do something, it's better that you gave it 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:29.559 a go. And you know, regret is something I never 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:32.200 want to have in my life. So just try and 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:34.640 if you don't like it, don't worry about it. But 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:37.400 even if you love something and you're not fantastic at 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:38.439 it, it doesn't really matter. 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:39.880 But because it makes you happy. 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:42.199 Yeah, I think that's the T shirt. That's the SHANEA. 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:45.719 Blaze t shirt. No regrets, No regrets. 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:48.040 Like no regrets, just don't get the tattoos felt wrong? 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:48.959 Send enough of those. 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.719 Oh yeah, I know we have to very quickly talk 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:54.520 about the block. I know it's a different network, but 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:56.560 you know there was a story about you that came 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.520 out about you being a little bit furious with some 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:02.319 of the contestants behavior this year. Is this season hard 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:04.320 or has it been hard for you to watch back? 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:05.600 Is there any truth to that story? 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:07.600 Well, I think when you hear the words source, you 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:09.520 know it doesn't come from me. So no. 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.040 But the thing but the thing is, like, you know, 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.280 I don't know them, I don't meet they'll meet them 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.760 when the show's over. I don't know any of this drama. 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:18.920 So I try and stay away from the drama up 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:21.200 when it goes to air too, because it's one of 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.560 those things they have to work, they have to carry 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:25.600 that they're the ones in the public that they've done 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:26.120 what they've done. 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:28.480 But I just I just feel that, you know. 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:30.839 I don't really want to give it air, Ben, because 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:34.720 it's just I'd rather focus on the renovations, because that's 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:36.800 all the good bits going on, and the more air 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:40.320 we give to bad situations means that people think, well, 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.280 I'll get attention for it, so now believe alone. 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:46.160 I think though, the one thing about these contestants is 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.360 that some of them have got kids and they're going 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:51.480 to watch and then they'll have to explain it. And 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:53.440 as much as you might think, oh, you know, that 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:55.880 must be really embarrassing for them, I think it does 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.440 lead to an opportunity for them to own some of 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:02.080 their bad behavior and talk their kids through it and say, 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:04.600 Mum and dad have done the wrong thing here. And 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:07.040 I think there might be something powerful in that. Or 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:08.480 am I looking for silver linings? 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:10.600 I don't think you're looking for silver linings. I think 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:11.319 I think you know. 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:15.959 The block is a bubble, and people behave don't behave 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:17.160 how they normally win in life. 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.280 So I think, you know, reflection is a good thing. 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:21.960 Yeah, I always think is really sure. I think people 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:23.960 need to make mistakes. But I guess do you think 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:25.720 that the drama and house build balance. This is the 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:27.200 last question I'm going to ask you about the block, 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:30.200 But do you think that drama versus the housebuilding balance 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.000 is off this season? Do you think it needs to 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:33.920 be reshuffled a bit next year? 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:36.880 I think the thing is you don't know what people 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.400 are going to do. That's the hard thing. You can't 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:42.640 reshuffle it because how people react is how they react. 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:44.360 It's not part of a script. 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:48.360 So you know, I think that's a hard one, Ben, 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:50.200 It's a really hard one. 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:52.560 It is a hard one. It's the cut undrum. But 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:54.960 you know it's I think people are thinking about. If 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:57.360 you're reading the comments on the comment section at the moment, 0:14:57.640 --> 0:14:59.960 you know it would be hard to ignore what viewers 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:02.240 have to say about it. But look, yeah, I don't 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:03.640 want to put words in your mouth or put you 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:06.760 into a difficult situation, or create another or create another 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:10.120 headline for you that you don't need. But what we 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.720 probably should still quickly tie off is just a few 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:15.400 fun questions about the master singer. Was there another song 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:18.600 that you had already planned that we didn't get to see? 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:20.560 Because I know from some of my friends that have 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:23.120 done it before that they've usually foreshadowed what's going to 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:23.920 happen the next week? 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:25.160 What have we missed out on? 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:25.680 Oh? 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:27.400 There was a great Tones and I song I was 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:29.640 going to do, so I was really looking forward to 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:32.000 a different mix of that. But I did have a 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:35.240 beautiful Wendy Matthews song, which was you know, paying honor 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:36.920 to that. You know you're talking about all these great 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.600 Austronian singers. My next song was going to be Wendy 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:41.760 Matthews and I was really just like bummed. 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:44.280 I didn't get to do that one that gave me. 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.640 Chills, That actually gave me chills. I love is it 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:50.000 the Is it her classic song? Is it you Went Away? 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:52.520 No? No, I probably wouldn't have been able to get 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:54.040 through that performance without crying. 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:56.800 My dad. No, it was I don't want to be 0:15:56.920 --> 0:16:00.480 with that, nobody but you from when she was the band. 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:02.520 Okay, Well, if I don't see like a little snippet 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:04.560 of that being put on your socials in the next 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:07.840 couple of days, I'll be very disappointed. At least put 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:08.560 it on your album. 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:11.040 Maybe in my little cabaret performance. 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:12.960 Yeah, okay, great, well I'm the first person there. You 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:16.360