1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Amy Torber and coming up on today's show. After weeks 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: of speculation, Molly May and Tommy Fury confirm baby number 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: two Ruby Tuesday, Matthew's relatable wedding update, Los Curtis's unusual 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: house pet, and Mikayla Tester's US visa dramas the first. 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: Isabel Mathis has revealed the full circle moment that led 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: to her engagement last week. If you can believe it, 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: the Instagram model connected with her now fiance Harry on 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: Instagram ten years ago to the day. He proposed now 11 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: under a photo of Isabel posing in her underwear on 12 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: a bed. He wrote, marry me, what a furto de celet? Well, 13 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: I mean I just found it so cringe. But clearly 14 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: Isabel was interested, because she wrote back to him, WHOA 15 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: take me to dinner first? And that's clearly how their 16 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: love story started. I assume this guy's hot, well he's 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: a model himself. I was gonna say, I don't think 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: it would work for any just Tom Dick or Harriet. 19 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: Ryme's you have a friend of mine. 20 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: He's like, these good looking guys get away with anything. 21 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: Like if that was average looking man, he'd probably be 22 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: label to creep heaby blocked. I feel like it's going 23 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: to egg on those really creepy men that you always 24 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: see writing gross comments under models photo, like all the 25 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: old men that seem to think they're actually dating Tammy. 26 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: Hembro is talking about it for a week, this influx 27 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: of people messaging us because of all the reels we've 28 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: put up about Tammy, they seem to think that we 29 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: are actually Tammy Hembro. 30 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: And they're like, oh, reportable message. 31 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: It's like, babe, it's not her. I know what I 32 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: don't get about that scam though, is that, you know, 33 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: I assume that these people will a person pretending to 34 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: be Tammy is trying to get money off these old men. 35 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: But why would they believe it because Tammy has a 36 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: fortune of her own. Oh, but that's how they do 37 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: it a lot. That's always like a wealthy person that's like, hey, 38 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,279 Speaker 1: do you mind just lending me the money? 39 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: Because this has fallen through. 40 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: You need to watch a few more scam shows on Netflix, Sophie. 41 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: It's the perfect demo. Well back to Isabelle and Harriet. 42 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: It's been a big couple of months for them because 43 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: they were the influencer couple who purchased Ellie Watson's gold 44 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: Coat Hinterland mansion. Now the property was actually passed in 45 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: an auction with a top bit of five point nine 46 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: million dollars before the couple purchased it, so you can 47 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: imagine how much they paid for it, and it seems 48 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: like money isn't an issue for them because this engagement 49 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: ring was next level. It looks like Molly May's ring 50 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: is one of like a massive oval diamond. It was incredible, 51 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: which just seems like that's the ring that every single 52 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: influencer is getting proposed to with. And I do question 53 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: how many of these diamonds are real, so everyone's not 54 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 1: worth millions. In that case, I think it is probably genuine. 55 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: But nowadays we were talking about this off Mike because 56 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: so many influencers are posting these mammoth engagement rings a 57 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: lot of everyday people are feeling the pressure to live 58 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: up to it. So so many guys are going out 59 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: and they're getting the lab diamonds or they're picking a 60 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: cheaper alternative to a diamond, like a sunstone or something 61 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: like that. I don't think it's order to get the size. 62 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think there's anything wrong with that, 63 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: but it is funny. I think it's definitely is a 64 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: trickle down effect from Insta and you see these big 65 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 1: stones and you're like, oh, actually, I'd prefer the rock 66 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: over a real diamond. I actually love the idea of 67 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: a lab diamond because they're a lot more ethical than 68 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: a real diamond. Do you know how they say there's 69 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: certain styles of engagement ring that are very of the time. 70 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: I really think that the twenties will be thought of 71 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: as the huge lab diamonds. I wonder whether we are 72 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: going to go back to the natural diamonds and a 73 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: much smaller, maybe less flashy look. 74 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 3: I'm going to share a story that I know no 75 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 3: one will be able to relate to. 76 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: Los Curtis has revealed she's developed an emotional attachment to 77 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: a spider that lives in her house. The og beauty 78 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: influencer has gone to great lengths to keep it thriving, 79 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: including catching bugs for it to eat. Kay, I don't 80 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: think this story could get any more fucked with it is. 81 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: It definitely wasn't on my Bengo car for twenty twenty six. 82 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: Definitely not in those influence and predictions. So the wild 83 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,119 Speaker 1: spider in question has been living in Los's house. 84 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: For over a year. 85 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: Can I interject, aren't all spiders wild? 86 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: Are you saying? Because this one has not a pair spider. 87 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: She referred to it as a wild spider, So I 88 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: think she's saying, look, it's not a spider that I've 89 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: gone and boarded a pet shop and put in a 90 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: glitch when people buy. Yeah, this is just atypical. Kind 91 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: of looked a little bit tropical for us that live 92 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: in Adelaide like it. You know, it was sort of 93 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: like a Queensland spider, I suppose, fancy spider. Now, as 94 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: you mentioned, Loss has been helping the spider out a 95 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: little bit. It's been catching a few bugs for it, 96 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: because she became concerned after she saw the spiders in 97 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: her shed that were the same species as this one 98 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: in the house were a lot bigger than it. 99 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: Are you serious? 100 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: Yes, so she said, while she's not actively hunting bugs 101 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: for it, if there's a fly inside, she said, she'll 102 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,679 Speaker 1: catch it and throw it into the web. She also 103 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: said if a bug drowns in the bird bath. She'll 104 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: throw it in there too. 105 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: What the hell? 106 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: Now? I did like it because she added that she 107 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: really tries to rescue any bugs that fall into this 108 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: bird bath because it breaks her heart. So she clearly 109 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: has a very kind heart. See that's something I'll do. 110 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm laughing. I would never go and kill this. 111 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: I would remove the spider. 112 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: In a cup. 113 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: We'll get my husband to caper. I'm getting flashbacks to 114 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: that time Michael Finch had a spider come into his 115 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: house and he had to hire her to actually remove 116 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: that spider. 117 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 2: Is lucky it arrived in that influence's house. 118 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: I mean, so many people would have just absolutely sprayed 119 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: the shit out of it. My favorite bit is that 120 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: she's really done her research because she spoke about how 121 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: spiders have to catch live prey. So in order to 122 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: sort of alert the spider that has got a bit 123 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: of food in its web, she'll blow on the web 124 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: to kind of cause a vibration. She hadn't be too 125 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: much time in a hand. This reminds me of me 126 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: when I become an expert in something like this. I'm 127 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: a fixated I know she's got a pet dog who 128 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: she loves, and you know, wouldn't it be a danger 129 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: to have that spider the thing? I'd get it out? 130 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: Has she been reading Charlotte's Web? Is that made me 131 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: sad that well? She actually proudly revealed that the spider 132 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: once caught an earwig for herself. 133 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 2: How much time pay? God? 134 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: How does she away? She went on to show the spider. 135 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,239 Speaker 1: It was kind of in the corner of her living room, 136 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: near the blinds, and it was so gross because she 137 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: had thrown in this bug that had died in the 138 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: bird bath, and the spider had begun like wrapping it 139 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: up in its web, but it was revolting. Can you 140 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: imagine bringing a friend over or even like, I know 141 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: she's got a boyfriend, but a guy over. 142 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 2: And they're like, oh, what's that? 143 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: You're like, Oh, that's just. 144 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: The spider that lives with me. 145 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: But it's not even like it's in some kind of 146 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: aquarium or whatever. People would just think it was just 147 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: a random spart I mean, living in the Hills, I 148 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: have a lot of daddy long legs that live in 149 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: my house, and to be honest, I probably had some 150 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: that live there have lived there for over a year. 151 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: Because recently say that that makes you sound like absolutely Grubb, 152 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: I don't say that. It's no, we're keeping that in 153 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,799 Speaker 1: because I'm keeping it in because I was at Kate's 154 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: house the other day and we had the two boys 155 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: on the playing mount and Kate goes, I don't mind that. 156 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: There's just this is a hug from there that lives there. 157 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: No, it's not a huntsman, it's a Daddy long legs. 158 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 4: Look. 159 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: I think the biggest question we're not going to focus on, say, 160 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: there is a reason why people keep some spiders in 161 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: the house, like Daddy long legs that aren't a threat 162 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: to eat an insert yes, because they insects. Well, that's 163 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: why re said he doesn't move them. 164 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 165 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,559 Speaker 1: Anyway, let's I think the biggest question on everyone's lips 166 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: is why is Lauren Curtis doing this? I mean, Kate 167 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: seems to have a few ideas about it, but she 168 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: did answer why on an Instagram story. Let's take a 169 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: list why she's sharing this. 170 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 3: The reason that I go to the extent of even 171 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: feeding it is because it has been in her house 172 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 3: through some dark times. I remember when recent I spent 173 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 3: many months up in Perth during his the peak of 174 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 3: his sickness. We were going for months and we came 175 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: back and that little, sweet little spider was still there. 176 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 3: I don't know what an eight four months, but it 177 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 3: was still there. I thought, no, I've got an you keep. 178 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: You healthy, al right. I think we all feel a 179 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: little bit bad now after hearing that explanation it, you know, 180 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,559 Speaker 1: particularly they've gone through a very tough time. It seems 181 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: to be this constant in their lives. Yes, for those 182 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: who don't know losses fiance resuccessfully underwent a liver transplant 183 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: last year and he's been not very well for a 184 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: long time leading into that. He's feeling a lot better now, thankfully. 185 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: But I think it might be a case of that 186 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: thing where you know, when you're in a really tough 187 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: situation and there's not much you can control. Maybe she 188 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: was like, well, I can control this, I can keep 189 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: that spider there. As a bit of good luck, you 190 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: do you lows You and Charlotte are going to for 191 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: the first time excited. After weeks of speculation, Molly May 192 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: and Tommy Fury have revealed they are expecting baby number two. 193 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: The couple, who officially reunited in May last year after 194 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: a very public split, also appeared to be engaged again, 195 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: with Molly wearing her large diamond ring in the announcement video. 196 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 1: So how are you feeling. I'm very conflicted because obviously 197 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: a birth announcement's a wonderful, exciting news, But I'm just 198 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: a little bit worried for Molly, only because they've just 199 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: recently gotten back together. I mean, it's very clear that 200 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: Tommy wants to have a ton of kids, but Molly 201 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 1: has previously shared that she was quite happy with one child. Yeah, 202 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: and in her documentary, she recently spoke about how they 203 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: still have the same issues in their relationship and they're 204 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: working through them. And the last scene of that doco 205 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 1: was her moving back in with Tommy, which we now 206 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: know why why there was that push to do so, 207 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: but she seemed very uncertain. It was clear that she 208 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: still wanted to keep her home as a place to 209 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: go back to if any of the old issues came up. 210 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 2: And I just worry that. 211 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: I think that maybe the two of them are romanticizing 212 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: this idea of having a child and that will make 213 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: their relationship even stronger because they're going to be a 214 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: family of four. But I actually think it will make 215 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: things tougher. Well, It's a common concept. It's called a 216 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: band aid baby, and often people think, Okay, well, if 217 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: you just have that baby, the relationship will be better. 218 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: But surely that's not the case for Molly and time, 219 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: considering Molly now knows how difficult it is to have 220 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: a baby. I mean, she is very open with how 221 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: much she struggled with Bambi. We are going to get 222 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: into some of that, but I think we need to 223 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: first talk about the announcement. So the couple broke the 224 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: news on Instagram on Friday morning, sharing a black and 225 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: white video with the caption soon to Before. So this 226 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 1: video looked like it had been shot on a nineties 227 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: cam quarter. And in the video, Molly walked down the 228 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: stairs with Bambi, who was wearing a knitted jumper with 229 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: big sister across it. It was so cute. She looked 230 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: so excited. She and Molly was wearing a white top 231 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: and black trousers and I presume they were from maybe 232 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: surely there's a bit of product place. Of course they 233 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: would have been. And she was pooh bearing it, as 234 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,599 Speaker 1: I like to say, So it was fairly obvious immediately 235 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: that she was pregnant. She's in fact six months pregnant, 236 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: which is blown a lot of people's minds. Oh I 237 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: was so surprised. I mean I assumed that she would 238 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 1: be quite well along the way because she kept her 239 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: last pregnancy a secret. I think it was around the 240 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: six month mark as well. Well, when she walked that 241 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: catwalk for Laurel in that silver dress, which was a 242 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: bit of a moment with the Bob, that's when she 243 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: was actually first pregnant. She didn't even know at the time, 244 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: but she's dated it back to that time. On air 245 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: DOCCO they showed behind the scenes of it, because when 246 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: it first appeared, it was like, oh my god, like 247 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: she looks so confident and amazing, and behind the scenes 248 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: she wasn't happy with the dress and she wasn't happy 249 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: with the way she looked, and she kind of overreacted. 250 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: But now I can understand why her hormones must have 251 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: been going all over the place. I was like, oh, 252 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: I get it now. Getting back to this video, it's 253 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: clear that the couple wanted to show that they're in 254 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: a good place because there were these cute shots of 255 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: Tommy holding her belly and them kissing, and then there 256 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: are also a lot of shots of Molly's hand, and 257 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: that was to reveal the fact that her engagement ring 258 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: is back on. Well, for those who watched her DOCA, 259 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: they would have already known that she's been wearing the 260 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: engagement ring again. There was a lot of talk about 261 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: how Tommy was going to do another proposal, because originally 262 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: Molly said, look, I don't want to just put it 263 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: back on my finger. I want him to do something 264 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: to show that things have changed, but that didn't end 265 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: up happening. The reason this feels so big because this 266 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: is actually the first time we've seen them bring back 267 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: on her finger though like as members of the public, 268 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: we haven't seen her wearing it. And it really wasn't 269 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: hard to miss because this ring is between five to 270 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: ten carrots. She had to wear it in this video. 271 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it would have been weird if she wasn't. 272 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: It is being reported by the Son that Tommy and 273 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: Molly quietly broke the news about their pregnancy to family 274 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: and close friends months ago. I wonder if they told 275 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: Tommy's family on Christmas Day because Molly made a big 276 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: deal on her YouTube about how she was hosting all 277 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: the Furies on Christmas Day, and it seemed to be 278 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: weird because she wasn't seeing Zoe Ray, her sister or 279 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: her mum. So are you alerding that maybe they're not 280 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: too happy about it? Well, potentially, or my other theory 281 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: is maybe they'd already told that side of the family, 282 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: but they didn't want the Furies to think that they 283 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: were second to know. 284 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 285 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: Well, this video did receive a massive response online. At 286 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: the time of recording, it's received over two million likes 287 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: and five hundred and forty thousand send ons. Now the 288 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: news exploded in the mainstream media, with many publications honing 289 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: it on the fact that the couple were having a 290 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: baby less than a year after getting back together. I mean, 291 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: I can see where they're coming from. I've got a 292 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: bit of whiplash from the whole thing because it was 293 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: only in August twenty twenty four that it was breaking 294 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: news on UK television. It was like as big as 295 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: when Princess Diana and Prince Charles broke up. That they 296 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: were like as big, but people were comparing it to that. 297 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 1: I think it was as big. People were calling while 298 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: we made the People's Princess, and then she's had this 299 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: successful doco that's got an award off the back of 300 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: the breakup and then suddenly it's like, oh, they we're 301 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: back together. It's all happy families. Well, the thing is 302 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people weren't actually shocked about the pregnancy itself, though, 303 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: because ever since Molly dropped her Maude's vlog early in January, 304 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: there have been these persistent rumors that the couple could 305 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: be pregnant. I mean, as soon as she uploaded that 306 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: photo dump, her comments were flooded with people speculating she 307 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: was pregnant. We did speak a little bit about it 308 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: on the podcast, but it felt really wrong to speculate 309 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: base on that photo because it was like, you know, 310 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: she was in bather as. It was kind of us 311 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: all judging her body. 312 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 2: That's the thing. 313 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: Majority of these photos were of her in either bikinis 314 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: or a one piece bathing suit, and people were commenting 315 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: about how they perceived her body to look, which felt 316 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: kind of gross. Well, recently podcast Victoria Devine announced that 317 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: she had had her baby and no one even knew 318 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: that she was pregnant, And afterwards she showed all of 319 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: these videos of like this is what I posted on 320 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: Instagram and this is actually a video of what I 321 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: looked like from a different angle. Interesting, and it's crazy 322 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: how much you can contort your body when you're pregnant 323 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: and work with the angles that you've got. I think 324 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: in these photos of Molly May, she actually didn't really 325 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: work with the angles right, like you could actually tell 326 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: she was pregnant. Is I kind of wonder why people 327 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: bothered to post photos of themselves in bathers if they 328 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: are trying to conceal a pregnancy, Like not to throw 329 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: a shade her at all, but I mean I was 330 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: pregnant when we were on our honeymoon, and I mean 331 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: I'm not one to post bathy shots as it is, 332 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: but you know, I just kept them a lot of 333 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: self beer, like from further away, like I wouldn't had 334 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: my stomach out on the side. I mean, each to 335 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: their own, but I just think if you're this celebrity 336 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: couple and you're trying to water down any room, as 337 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: you might avoid some of those photos, particularly because she 338 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: would have been quite far along, like if she's almost 339 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: six months now, then she would have been four months pregnant. 340 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: I would have really loved to be a fly on 341 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: the wall at the Ray household and to have known 342 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: how Zoe and her husband Danny really felt about Molly's 343 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: decision because under the announcement post, Zoe sent love hearts 344 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: and wrote I can't wait to see her be a 345 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: big sister. However, in the past, Zoe has expressed this 346 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: disapproval about Molly and Tommy getting back together. I mean 347 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: this was really aired in the docu series because she 348 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: told her sister that getting back with Tommy was a 349 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: mistake and warned her that she would likely be her again. 350 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 2: Well, you can't. 351 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: Forget it was Zoe who had to step in because 352 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: Tommy was absent during the first few months of Bambi's life. 353 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: So Bambi was only a few days old when Tommy 354 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: went to this training camp, so he left Molly all 355 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: alone to look after a newborn Well, he was training 356 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: to fight Jake Paul, so the fight was on February 357 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: twenty six, four weeks after Bambi was born, so he 358 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: was away for four weeks during that newborn stage, and 359 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: Zoe ended up moving in full time with Molly and 360 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: essentially raised Bambi for the first couple of weeks of 361 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: her life, and Molly has since described this time as traumatic. 362 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: She said it felt like she was doing everything on 363 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: her own, and they were not properly a family unit 364 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: until he returned. I mean, he did end up winning 365 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: the fight, so he received one point six million pounds 366 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: in prize money and three point seven million paid per 367 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: view revenue, So that's a total of five point three 368 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: million dollars a massive pay packet. But was it worth it. 369 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if I'd be okay with my 370 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: husband being away during the first few weeks of our 371 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: son's life, if he were set to make that amount 372 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: of money personally, I probably would be okay with it. 373 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: But if I was in Molly's situation where she already 374 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: makes that kind of money anyway, I would be fuming. 375 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: I'd probably be okay with it. Five point six dollars 376 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: is a lot of money, but that's if you knew 377 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: that's what was happening, Like if you could then say, okay, well, 378 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to get my sister and I'm going to 379 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: get my mummy and I'm going to have this support. 380 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that she said it was traumatic. 381 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: I think that was part of the reason why she 382 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: wasn't really racing to have baby number two. It's funny 383 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: because for me, I found a lot of Molly May's 384 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: flogs really comforting to go back and watch when I 385 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: was in the newborn trenches myself, because she was just 386 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: so honest about how difficult she found that time when 387 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: Bambie was two months old. She said the one word 388 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: that she'd used to describe the experience was overwhelming. She said, 389 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,479 Speaker 1: every single day, you can't believe the three sixty your 390 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: life has taken. It is a very hard thing to 391 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: wrap your head around. It's the biggest life change that 392 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: no one can prepare you for. I could not resonate 393 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: with that anymore. It was really sad too, because in 394 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: August twenty twenty three, when she was reflecting on the 395 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: first few weeks of motherhood, she admitted that she wasn't 396 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: sure whether she'd ever feel happy again, but things were 397 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: starting to look up now that Bambi was a bit older. 398 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: She may have been suffering from postpartum depression. It's really 399 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: awful because I feel like as soon as you have 400 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: a child, then the next benning question is when you're 401 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: having baby number two. And that really has been the 402 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: case for Molly May. I mean, even three months after 403 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: she split from Tommy. A follower wrote in asking how 404 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: many more kids she wanted, and she ended up answering 405 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: this question on her YouTube and admitted that Bambi could 406 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: be it for her, but she wasn't sure at that time. 407 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: I mean, what a fucking incensive question to ask. Well, 408 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: it's amazing the difference a couple of months make, because 409 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: Molly's tune completely changed, and this is most likely because 410 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: she was reconciling with Tommy. So in part one of 411 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: her docu series, which dropped in January twenty twenty five, 412 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: she hinted wanting to expand her family. So, while discussing 413 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,959 Speaker 1: whether she and Tommy were going to get back together, 414 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: she said, all I want in this life is to 415 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: be with him and to have another baby with him, 416 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: and to grow old as a family and live in 417 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: a nice house together and have a nice life together. 418 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: That's all I want. 419 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: In May last year, she also spoke about this special 420 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: relationship that she has with her sister Zoe and how 421 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: it really shaped her desire to expand her family. So 422 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: she said, Zoe for me, is always going to be 423 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: my best friend. That's why I am desperate to give 424 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: Bamby a sister one day, because I can't imagine my 425 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: life without Zoe. She also admitted that she wouldn't want 426 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: Bamby to be a single child, and that she enjoys 427 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: watching her daughter light up when she's around other kids, 428 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: like biting them at daycare. Oh it's gonna be a 429 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: big thing. Though, if it's a boy, like, does that 430 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: change Molly's plans completely? I don't think it really matters 431 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: what gender is. I think she just wants a sibling 432 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: for Bamby. Well, Tommy really wanted a boy last time. 433 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: You can tell he was really disappointed. I wonder if 434 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: she slightly regrets what she said in a YouTube video 435 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: last year, because this was when they're officially back together, 436 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: and she admitted that if she saw a positive pregnancy 437 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: test now, she would be absolutely terrified. I feel like, 438 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: even when you're planning to have a baby, seeing the 439 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: positive pregnancy test is a little bit freaky. Well, I 440 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: think it's also the fact that she found the newborn 441 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: stage really difficult, because she said that if she could 442 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: have one hundred two year olds Bambia and skip the 443 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: newborn stage, she definitely have heaps of kids. I also 444 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: think it's because Tommy comes from this traveler background where 445 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: they all have a lot of kids. It's all what 446 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: they do. And I think that he is really held 447 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: abound on having a large family, whereas I think with 448 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: her she would have been quite happy for them to 449 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: continue being a family of three. 450 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: Well, the other thing is Molly's really young. 451 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: She might just think, Okay, this is gonna pop baby 452 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: number two out, then this is going to take the 453 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: pressure away. Well, the son have been reporting that the 454 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: pregnancy has so far strength in their relationship and brought 455 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: them closer together because they would. 456 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 2: Go I'm sure friends working over time. 457 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: Well. The source said that Tommy is determined to do 458 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: the right thing this time around and has canceled all 459 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: of his summer trips with his friends and wants to 460 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: stand by Molly every step of the way. It seems 461 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: like he has been a bit more present during this 462 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: pregnancy so far because we've probably known about it for 463 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: five minutes. No, because last week he took Molly away 464 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: for an early Valentine's Day weekend and he had secretly 465 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: arranged for Bambi to be looked after by Zoe and 466 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: Danny for the weekend. Can you imagine conversation, Oh hey, Zoey, 467 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: it's me Tommy. You know that guy that you don't 468 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: really want these to you with? And you know, can 469 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: I take her away from? And can you look after my? 470 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: I bet the balloon artist or whatever they called, the 471 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: person who does all of their very esthetic looking installations, 472 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 1: is thrilled that Tommy is back in her life because 473 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: he organized for big Love Heart balloons to be all 474 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: over this accommodation, as well as some rose petals everywhere. 475 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: It's very romantic. I'm just so intrigued what the name 476 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: is going to be. I saw Amber from Influence Updates 477 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: joked in the comment section of Molly's posts that maybe 478 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 1: she should copy Indy Clinton's other daughter's name, call her soul. 479 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean that's if it's a girl. Maybe she could 480 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: go with Navy if it's a boy. The other guest 481 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: from a lot of smart asses in the comment section 482 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: was like, what about Tarzan because of the Disney reference? 483 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: And it is, yes, he is a Disney movie. I 484 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,959 Speaker 1: should think it'd be more shocking if they went with 485 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: something like mainstream, just like Sarah. 486 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 2: Bamby and Sarah this is this is Bambi and Bob 487 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 2: Any wedding plans. Yes, gotcha, Ruby Tuesday. 488 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: Matthews has revealed a pool and home renovation are taking 489 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: priority over her wedding plans. Kate, can you tell us 490 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: more so? Ruby's followers have been on wedding watch ever 491 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: since she got engaged to Shannon Dodd in mid twenty 492 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: twenty one. However, five years on, they're now getting impatient. 493 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: So during an Instagram Q and a, Ruby reveals that 494 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: she gets asked about her wedding all the time. Let's 495 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: take a listen. 496 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 4: I would love to get married. 497 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: I'd love to make it down the aisle. 498 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 4: It's like, I feel like it's every woman's girl's streamed, 499 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 4: Like maybe one day go down the aisle. You know, 500 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 4: might na managed to do it almost thirteen times. Hat 501 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 4: on the back for you, Carol, fucking believing legend is 502 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 4: still alive. But yeah, obviously it's like every girl's dream 503 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 4: to wear a white dress. And like whether it's just 504 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 4: in a field by yourself or with someone by yourself, 505 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 4: I mean, fured by yourself, how big or small. Would 506 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 4: love to get there one day. 507 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 2: Also would really. 508 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 4: Like a pool and for my flowed stop cracking and 509 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 4: for it to be sounded back goush. 510 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: Ruby's nana sounds like quite the character. I mean that 511 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: is even more times than Elizabeth Taylor was married. When 512 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: Taylor Stef's song Elizabeth Taylor came out, I think it 513 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: was the Kickpod who were talking about it, and they 514 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: didn't even know who Elizabeth Taylor was serious or like 515 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: the you know, the fact that she'd married was married 516 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: nine times. 517 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck Taylor just providing everyone 518 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 2: with a history lesson. 519 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like Ruby Tuesday Matthews has to do 520 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: a story time about her nana because I'm very intrigued 521 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: to find out about all of those weddings. Why does 522 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: it remind me of that TikTok where someone's pretending to 523 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 1: be their nana and it says when your grandparents come 524 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: out with the roguas stories and Nana's like it was 525 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: like back in that time when I Elvis proposed to 526 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: me and I said no. There's been so many rumors 527 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: floating around though that Ruby Tuesday Matthews and her fiance 528 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: have broken up, so clearly things are still on between them. Yeah, well, 529 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: she's basically confirmed that. I mean, I think her followers 530 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: need to cut her some slack two in terms of 531 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: this wedding, because she's had a bit going on, Like, 532 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: since she got engaged, she fell pregnant with her third 533 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: child and has launched her own brand, So I can 534 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: see how the wedding has slipped down that priority list. 535 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: I mean, I think if you're fall pregnant while you're engaged, 536 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: the likelihood of going through with that wedding is slim 537 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: to none. 538 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 539 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 1: Now having a child, I'm like, God, I couldn't even 540 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: imagine planning a wedding at the same time or that 541 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: being a priority. Yeah. And I also think in the 542 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: past with OG influencers, the assumption was that they all 543 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: just have all this money it can do whatever they 544 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: want with it. But we've seen recently with influencers like 545 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: Lily Brown speaking out about the realities of having a business, 546 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: just how difficult it is and how they don't actually 547 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: have as much money as you think. So that possibly 548 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: could be one reason why they haven't got marriage yet. Well, 549 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: it is because she is prioritizing these house renovations. She said, Look, 550 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: I want to pull I want to be able to 551 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: do this and that to my house. I mean, it 552 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: doesn't help though, when the media reported back in twenty 553 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: twenty one that her engagement ring, which was a three 554 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: point five carrot ring was worth ninety two thousand dollars. 555 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: I suppose people look at that and go, well, how 556 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: do you not have money for a wedding? So that 557 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: was a real diamond. I mean we've just been chatting. Yeah, 558 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: well I would say so, yeah, see, maybe mister Ruby 559 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: Tuesday Matthew should have just bought a lub diamond. Then 560 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: maybe they'd have some money for the wedding whole. If 561 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: the ring cost ninety two thousand dollars and people assume 562 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: that Ruby Tuesday Matthews is rich, then maybe she feels 563 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure to put on an epic wedding. 564 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: I mean she was invited recently to Tammy Hembro's wedding 565 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: to Matt Szakowski, I'm sure an absolutely bomb would have 566 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: been spent on it. So maybe it's like, oh, you know, 567 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: I can't just have your typical average person wedding. Yeah, 568 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: you can hardly have a cocktail wedding or something like that. 569 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: After going to Tammy Hembro's wedding, I remember a friend 570 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: was saying he went to a wedding recently where the 571 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: dessert literally looked like it was a cornetto cone, But 572 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: just the bottom of it, not even the ice cream. 573 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: It is the best bit though, it is the best bit. 574 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 2: But you kind of that. 575 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: You don't want to go to a wedding and have 576 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: to stop at McDonald's after. I can't stand it. You 577 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: don't want to be fighting people for an aaranchine. People 578 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: like I remember go into wedding like that and just 579 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: you started bonding with guests over how hungry you were, 580 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: which is not what you want people talking about. 581 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 2: A lot of people are confused. 582 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: I was adopted in two thousand and three. My name, 583 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: as you guys know, it is not my birth name. 584 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: Mikayla Tester's plans to relocate to the US with her 585 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: American fiance Max Krauss have been temporarily put on hold. 586 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: The only Fans creator had her visa application refused after 587 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: a three hour meeting with officials. However, there is still 588 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 1: hope she can get a green cart. Well. She's been 589 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: waiting for over a year for an interview for her 590 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: US visa, so she was understandably nervous leading into it, 591 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: and it was quite sweet because her fiance, Max helped 592 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: her prepare all of the documents and he also waited 593 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: outside the consulate during her lengthy meeting. So to give 594 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: you an idea of their relationship timeline, they actually got 595 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: engaged in October twenty twenty four and they've been together 596 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: for almost two years. Mikayla said in her TikTok that 597 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: she wasn't at all concerned about proving their relationationship to 598 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: officials because they actually haven't left each other's side for 599 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: longer than a week since meeting each other. There has 600 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: been a bit of an elephant in the room ever 601 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: since they got engaged as to whether Mikayla could even 602 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 1: enter Max's home country because the last two times that 603 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: Mikayla has tried to travel to the US, she has 604 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: been detained and deported, and she's gone into those stories 605 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: in depth on her TikTok. Well. The most recent time 606 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,479 Speaker 1: she ended up getting deported because she didn't list her 607 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: job correctly, so she put down that she was self 608 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: employed rather than being a sex worker on only fans. 609 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: So the officials ended up picking up on this and 610 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: they questioned her for hours and hours. They strip searched her. 611 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: She was then left in a holding room for forty 612 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: two hours. It sounded like an absolute ordeal. Did you 613 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: see that Matt Hay from the High Scrollers, who a 614 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: few months ago Safety called Alex Hay. That's because growing 615 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: up we had a friend called Alex also at the time, 616 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: and something called him again no accent, called I know 617 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: who he is after and I think he's great after 618 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: he complained, then Sophy referenced him as Hay al right, 619 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: even though his name is Alright Hay. 620 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 2: Look, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I've been very sleep deprived. 621 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 2: I got an excuse. 622 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: Matt Hay he shared on his Instagram with his handle 623 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: Alright Hay. He shared on his Instagram story that he 624 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: put down on his immigration form recently when returning from Asia, 625 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,479 Speaker 1: that he was a fortnighter, that that was his career. 626 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: I think if he'd done that in America, wouldn't you 627 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: just couldn't do it because you just wouldn't be able 628 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: to get in. It doesn't seem like Mikayla has had 629 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: much luck with this recent meeting, though, because, as you 630 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: mentioned at the start of this segment. 631 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 2: Her visa was refused. 632 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: However, Max did discover that it's not as bad as 633 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: it sounds, because if it had been denied, that would 634 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: have been a different story. But a refusal can actually 635 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: turn into an approval with the right document. Yeah, So 636 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: it turns out that the only reason it was refused 637 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: is because they still need to provide a document that 638 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: was missing. So the document in question is a police 639 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: check for Mikayla when she was aged between zero and three. 640 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: So that sounds very strange, But it turns out the 641 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: Mikayla testa is not actually the influencer's birth name. Let's 642 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: take a listen, because, yeah, she was adopted at three 643 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: years old and our police report didn't have her birth 644 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: name on it. Yeah, so they have to check her 645 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: records from the age of zero to. 646 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 3: Say that Japanese birth name. 647 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: Is crazy, Like, if it wasn't for that, I would 648 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: literally be in runner. Yeah. So that means if Mikayla's 649 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: police check with her birth name is all clear, which 650 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: it definitely will be considering she was aged between zero 651 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: and three, she will then be granted a visa and 652 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: will be able to move to the US with her fiance. 653 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: It might have been easier if she'd just gone on 654 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: ninety day fiance. It's funny you say that because someone 655 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: commented that and she said that she actually wanted to 656 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: but it was Max that said no that they couldn't 657 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: go on it. A lot of fans were also asking 658 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: for an update on Mikayla's Japanese birth name, so one 659 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: wrote law drop adopted and Japanese birth name? What chap 660 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: did I miss out on? Now? This comment got over 661 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: three point seven thousand likes. Off the back of this comment, 662 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,959 Speaker 1: Mikayla ended up posting a TikTok explaining her law. So 663 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: she revealed this, sorry. 664 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 2: Can I interdate? What does her law mean? 665 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: It's like her story, like the tale behind her that 666 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: people don't know about. I've ever heard of that before? Really, well, 667 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: it's actually quite common anyway. So Mikayla revealed that she 668 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: was adopted by her stepfather when she was just three 669 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: years old. We touched a little bit on her story 670 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: Friday's episode. So when her mom and stepfather split up, 671 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: he ended up taking custody of her as her mum 672 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: was allegedly dealing with a drug addiction. As for her 673 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: biological father, she didn't meet him until she was a 674 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: teenager and lived with him for several years before he 675 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: sadly passed away. Now, when Mikayla was adopted, her original 676 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: Japanese surname was changed. She said that she's now had 677 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: three different names altogether and that Testa is actually her 678 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: father's surname but is not her legal name. I found 679 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: it all quite confusing. She didn't actually say why she 680 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: had a Japanese Well, I think that is all we 681 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: have time for today. Thank you so much for joining 682 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: us for this episode. 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