1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: On today's show, Anna Poul's shock breakup news, Sky Wheatley 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: admits she's a hypocrite over only fans Backflip, and the 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: food blogger is sewing a restaurant over a three hundred 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: and sixty four dollar lobster. Hello and welcome to Outspoken. 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: It's your dose of the hottest influenza and pop culture 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: news twice a week. 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 2: I am me Torbert and Kay. 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say, but you're looking a bit tired 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: this morning. Oh there's a reason behind that. So I 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: was woken up three times in the early hours of 11 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: the morning to noises of a koala having sex. Now 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: that sounds very specific, but if you live in the 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: hills or anywhere where there's koala's you will know. This 14 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: noise very aggressive, a lot of grunting. It sounds like 15 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: they're really having a fight. See I mean, Sophie's trying 16 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: to move to the hills at the moment. Maybe this 17 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 1: is a reason not to stay near the city. Oh, 18 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: they're cute when they're in the trees, but not so much. 19 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: We're having sex outside your bedroom window. 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So what you need to do 28 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: your search for out Spoken Plus, follow it, and then, 29 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 1: as you normally would with any podcast description on Spotify, 30 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: follow the prompts. We will have a detailed description of 31 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: how to sign up in our show notes. 32 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: So Glenn and I broke up. 33 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: Love is officially dead. Anna Paul has shocked her followers 34 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: by announcing she and her long term boyfriend Glenn Thompson 35 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: have broken up. The pair were together for eight years 36 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: and became one of TikTok's most beloved couples. The timing 37 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: of the news came is Anna returned home from a solo. 38 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: Work trip to Europe. Now, Glenn was actually the one 39 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: who broke the news first. 40 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: He shared a statement to his Instagram story that read, 41 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: Anna and I are no longer together, but still love 42 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: each other very much. I know this will be shocking 43 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: for everyone to hear, but we are both on very 44 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: good terms and we'll always have room in our heart 45 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: speech other. Soon after, Anna shared her own update to TikTok. 46 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: Let's take a listen to what she said. 47 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 3: We work together for eight years, and I know that 48 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 3: my relationship is a relationship that you guys looked up 49 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: to as in, like, the. 50 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 4: Only reason I believe I love is because at home clean, 51 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 4: you know. And we still love each other so much, 52 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 4: and it was a mutual breakup. You know, we've been 53 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 4: together since we were sixteen or fifteen, and now we're 54 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 4: twenty four and like you still may I love him 55 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 4: so much, but we're just not in a relationship anymore. 56 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: We are now both single. And I don't know how 57 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: to make this video. I'm honestly going to post the 58 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 3: first take, which is this one. I don't know how 59 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: else to say this, but yeah, it's a mutual, mutual decision, 60 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 3: and we love each other a lot, and that's what 61 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 3: that's what's happened. 62 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, I thought it was very interesting that Glenn 63 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: made an appearance in that final scene because he went 64 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: and kissed her on the head after she finished her feet. 65 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 1: What did you guys, think about that. I think they're 66 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: really putting on a show to prove that this is 67 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: a mutual, respectful breakup. The fact that they said they 68 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: love each other so many times, and Glenn appearing. I mean, 69 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, guys, but if I broke 70 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: up with my long term partner, I wouldn't be with 71 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: them in the same room, let alone appearing in a 72 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: breakup video. And I think that's what's so confusing for everybody, 73 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: is that they keep saying how much they love each other, 74 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: but they haven't really given a valid reason for why 75 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: they're broke out. A lot of followers picked up that 76 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: in the background of the video there was a shoe 77 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: cabinet and half of the shoes were gone, and it 78 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: made people really sad because they thought, oh, Glenn's probably 79 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: there packing up. 80 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: His stuff to move out. 81 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: Well, Anna has just gotten back from Europe, so maybe 82 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: they're her shoes missing from the cabinet. Now. While everyone 83 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: was shocked by the news, the couple did raise a 84 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: lot of eyebrows when Anna decided to take her parents 85 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: and brother Addas to Europe for six weeks without Glenn. 86 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: So it was unusual as Glenn and Anna usually travel 87 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: overseas together, and at the time Anna I said Glenn 88 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: was staying home to spend more time with his family 89 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: and look after the animals, and the couple did make 90 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: a big effort to squash breakup rumors. They actually holiday 91 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: together in the snow in Canberra with Glenn's family right 92 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: before the Europe trip. Anna also spoke about how much 93 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: she was going to miss him and reiterated that everything 94 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: was fine between them. She even she had a TikTok 95 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: about how she was trying to mentally prepare herself for 96 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: all that wears Glenn comments, and she even replied to 97 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,679 Speaker 1: someone on TikTok saying he'll be at home spending extra 98 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: time with his family and the pets, but we already 99 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: miss each other so much. 100 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:25,679 Speaker 2: It's not okay. 101 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: You know, when you're lying about something and you overdo it, 102 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: it's kind It seems like that's what Anna's done in 103 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: this instance. I moll think that they may be said, 104 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: we're going to have this time apart and we're going 105 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: to see how we go without each other. And then 106 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: Anna realized on this trip with her family that maybe 107 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: she's outgrown Glenn and she needs to move on. Because 108 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: it sounds like they haven't been happy for a while. Yeah. Well, 109 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 1: she did open up on that and a secondary video 110 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: about the breakup, because the first breakup video has already 111 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: amassed thirty million views at the time of recording, and 112 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: people have a lot to say about it because the 113 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: following day, a screenshot of an apparent message Glenn shared 114 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: with his close friends on Instagram began circulating, claiming that 115 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: he had cheated on Anna. Now, Anna was very quick 116 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: to slam these rumors, saying that the screenshot was fake 117 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: and that no one cheated on anyone. She also said 118 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: that there was no truth to the speculation that the 119 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: breakup was because Glenn wanted a family and she didn't. 120 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: I saw that screenshot floating around, I was like, how 121 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: does anybody actually think this is true? I don't know. 122 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: When I saw it, I was like, possibly could be true. 123 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: It kind of sounded like Glenn the way he had 124 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: written the Verst post about the break cup sounded unbelievable. Well, 125 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: in this fake post, he was apparently saying that Adas 126 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: had a new girlfriend and that he previously had a 127 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: history with this girlfriend. But I mean, we haven't heard 128 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: of anyone new on the scene for Adis. That's why 129 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: I thought this doesn't make sense. I think everyone's hoping 130 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: that there's some dirty details and some drama regarding this breakup, 131 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: but Anna has said there's nothing juicy about it. They 132 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: still love each other and are happy apparently even though 133 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: they've just broken up. See this is what people have 134 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: an issue with this whole I love you so much, 135 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: we love each other. We're going to still be hanging 136 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: out with each other. Apparently they're going to be doing 137 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: cooking classes together. This is not a relatable breakup. And 138 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: I totally get the fact that when you've been with 139 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: someone since high school, you've been in each other's lives 140 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: for eight years, whatever, of course you're going to have 141 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: a bit of love for that person still. But when 142 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: things are fresh and the breakups just happened, I have 143 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: never seen anyone be this amicable. She did say that 144 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: they've been mourning the breakup for a long time because 145 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: it's been a long time coming. Apparently they've been close 146 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: to breaking up before. I do think that she is 147 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: very much trying to push this narrative that nothing has 148 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: gone down. I mean, she said that it was the 149 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 1: most healthy breakup that's ever happened, and that's what always happens. 150 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: Celebrities always put out that it's a really healthy breakup. 151 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: Usually when they emphasize the fact that there's no cheating, 152 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: Generally there is cheating. And that's why I think that 153 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: people are saying, surely there's more to this, because it 154 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: just seems like a very rehearsed prr. I think that 155 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: they've always tried to act like their relationship is perfect 156 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: on TikTok because Anna released a video recently saying that 157 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: in their eight year relationship, they've only ever fought three times. However, 158 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: since the breakup, this video has resurfaced from five years ago, 159 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: when Anna says that her and Glenn fight every day 160 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: and it's so shit and there's no communication going on 161 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: in their relationship. 162 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: It's just awkward because there's always receipts on the internet. 163 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but the thing is that was five years ago, 164 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: so they were three years into their relationship. Sometimes I 165 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: actually think it's a bad side, but people don't fight 166 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: because there's no longer that passion in the relationship or 167 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: that care. Like I feel like they almost fell into 168 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: the situation of just becoming friends. But then why I say, 169 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: we've only had three fights in her whole relationship. Like 170 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: you could have said at the start, we bought a 171 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: long because you're hardly going to post all the dirty 172 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: details on TikTok, so people had She already had no 173 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: but so people have a go at you. I mean 174 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: there would have been so many people messaging she. I 175 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: mean they forgot about the video exactly. I mean the 176 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: fact that she had to preface and say, oh shit, 177 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: I'm actually worried about people saying where's Glenn. On a 178 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: daily basis, she would get dms questioning her about different details. Well, 179 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: she knows that her brother, Addas He's gone through a 180 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: breakup a year ago and he still gets daily messages 181 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: about it and comments about it. He's even taken time 182 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: off social media. I assume due to a lot of 183 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: this backlash. Well, if we are to believe what Anna 184 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: has said about the breakup that it's amicable, my only 185 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: thought is is it just that they've grown apart? I 186 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: mean they've been dating since high school. Has it become 187 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: more of a friendship thing and that's why they're on 188 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: such good term. I do think that was the reason 189 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: for the breakup, And recently Anna did reveal that Glenn 190 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: is her first and only sexual partner and she is his, 191 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: So it might be the case where they want to 192 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: explore new relationships. I mean, they're twenty four, they've been 193 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: together since they were fifteen sixteen. You can understand that, 194 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: and maybe they'll come back together after exploring and realizing 195 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: the grass isn't greener. On the other side, it'll be 196 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: interesting to see what direction Anna's Only Fans takes because 197 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: from what I've heard, Glenn was quite heavily involved in 198 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: the Video's filmed a lot of the content as well. 199 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: So who's she going to get to film? 200 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 3: Like? 201 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,599 Speaker 1: She can't really get out of saw her parents to 202 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: help out with that. 203 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: There are tripods, guys, how do I get my TikTok? 204 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: The humpback Sky Wheatley has omitted she is a hypocrite 205 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: for launching an Only Fans account after previously slamming the 206 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: platform so back in September twenty twenty two, the former 207 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: Big Brother contestant caused outrage when she blamed OnlyFans creators 208 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: for ruining marriages. She revealed she was fuming that some 209 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: women in her industry are making good money by filming 210 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: themselves performing sex acts. Now. The backlash was swift and 211 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: even ruined a long term friendship with fellow influencer Michael Finch, 212 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: who posted her rant to YouTube. 213 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: So it came as a real shock. 214 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: Last month when Sky announced she was starting an OnlyFans account. 215 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: In an Instagram Q and A this week, the former 216 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: Big Brother contestant was asked if she thinks she's a 217 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: hypocrite for having an only fans account after ranting about 218 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: the platform. Sky responded saying absolutely so hypocritical. I'm a 219 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: fuck wit but A people don't know the context and 220 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 1: B I had no control over that being posted to 221 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: the internet and see people change, their minds grow and 222 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: change all the time. Also, we'll explain in depth this 223 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: when I can be fact. At the moment, I don't 224 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 1: have the energy, but I owe you guys an explanation 225 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: and definitely want. 226 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 2: To touch on it. 227 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: Isn't that hilario though, because maybe she was so angry 228 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: with Michael Finch for sharing it because she had plans 229 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: back then to create an only fancying. I find hypocritical though, saying, oh, 230 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: I didn't know that that rant of mine was going 231 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: to be released, but you clearly hold those views. It 232 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: just got shared publicly, so you didn't publicly want people 233 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: to know your views, but that was still your views. 234 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: At least, she said, she's a hypocrite, Like at least 235 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: she said, Look, I'm a fuck quit. Yeah I did 236 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: see so dramatics. Instagram shared the news and Sky comment 237 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: and saying I'm cringe kisskidd and this is why people 238 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 1: love Sky and will continue to support her. 239 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 240 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: Well, in terms of content she's sharing on OnlyFans, I've 241 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: not subscribed myself, but you can go have a look 242 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: and see the captions that she's sharing. The photos are 243 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: blanked out, but it does appear she is using only 244 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: fans to document her recent surgery to fix her botch 245 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: breast augmentation, and when she launched the account last month, 246 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: she did say that she would be filming her breast 247 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: journey as well as TMI stuff, but insisted she wouldn't 248 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: be posting hardcore pornography. She wrote, I wouldn't show nips 249 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: purely because I'm a mum. I would die if that 250 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: affected my children at school. Now, Sky is charging twenty 251 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: USD a month for her content. How does that compare 252 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: to the other creators? So if you look at the 253 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: top creators. Anna Paul is charging ten Australian dollars a 254 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: month and Mikayla Tester is charging fifteen. Wow, I'm surprised 255 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: that Mikayla and Anna aren't charging more. Well, you've got 256 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: to think about it. They have so many subscribers and 257 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: it's predicted they earn around two hundred thousand to two 258 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand a month. Well, exactly, I've seen 259 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: some creators charging about five dollars a month, so I 260 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: kind of feel like that's a bit of an average 261 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: rate as well, so they are actually charging a premium. 262 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: Mikayla Tester did come out and urge her followers not 263 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: to charge minimum way. She said, girls, you're worth more 264 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: than a cheeseburger, and a cheeseburger's full fifteen now Sky's 265 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: only Fans promotion. It did take a bit of a 266 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: hit on Thursday night because she took to Instagram to 267 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: complain that her TikTok actually got deleted because she added 268 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: her only fans link to the bio let's throw to 269 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: what she said, accounts got banned. 270 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm so I didn't realize you weren't 271 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 4: meant to put your of link in the bio, Like 272 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 4: what if it's just like some people don't even use 273 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 4: it for sexual shit, Like there's like famous people on 274 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 4: of that, you know just talk to their fans and shit, 275 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 4: that's so fucked up. 276 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm not across this only fans well, but even I 277 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: know you were not allowed to add OnlyFans links or 278 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: even really refer to only fans on TikTok or most 279 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: social media platforms exact pash, She's like, some people don't 280 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: even use it for sexual shit, but she has been. 281 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I know we said she's not posting hardcore porn, 282 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: but she is posting risk photos as well. But is 283 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: that the concern really from TikTok or is TikTok just 284 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: doesn't want other people to go over to only fans 285 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: and stop using TikTok. I think it's a bit from 286 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: column A, a bit from Colum b I mean, you've 287 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: got to think about how many teenagers and young kids 288 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: are using TikTok, and I think it's good that they 289 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: have these measures in place so it is a platform 290 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: that is kept safe for children. 291 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 4: Don't need our shrimp and took plastic lobsters. Tis no, man, 292 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 4: 'tis a remorseless eaton machine. 293 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: Three food bloggers are suing Chinese restaurants Silver Pearl for 294 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: defamation after being accused of faking food poisoning to avoid 295 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: paying three hundred and sixty. 296 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: Four dollars for a lobster dinner. 297 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: The influencers have taken the matter to the federal court 298 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: after being labeled entitled classless, dishonest, and fraudulent by the restaurants. Sophie, 299 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: how did. 300 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: This all unfold? 301 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: Well, this drama first erupted in December twenty twenty on 302 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: Christmas Day. Now, if you cast your mind back, we 303 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 1: were still very much in the midst of the pandemic. 304 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: But at the time we were very naive, thinking that 305 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: maybe we were coming out of the worst of it, 306 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: and restaurants were starting to open up again and food 307 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: bloggers were making their way back out onto the scene. Now, 308 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: sisters Julie and Belinda Newen and Jennifer Doe, who were 309 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: joined by a fourth companion, dined at the restaurant on 310 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: Christmas Day. The women are being touted as social media influencers, 311 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: but as a side note, I have been unable to 312 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: find any of their social media accounts. 313 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: Now. 314 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: They ended up going to the restaurant and ordered a 315 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: live lobster to be served shashimi style along with a 316 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: bottle of red wine. Now, exactly what happened next is 317 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: being disputed by the social media influencers and the restaurant 318 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: owners in the federal court. I cannot believe this has 319 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: gone to the federal court. It is pretty crazy that 320 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: it's gotten this far. Now, after the women dined at 321 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: the restaurant, Silver Pearl's official Instagram account posted a recount 322 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: of the food blogger's alleged behavior. In the now deleted 323 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: Instagram post, the restaurant's management shared a photo of the 324 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: influencers with the text beware fraudulent diners. 325 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: Now. 326 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: Management then alleged that halfway through the meal, the women 327 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: complained to staff that they were feeling sick and accused 328 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: them of serving frozen lobster instead of the fresh lobster. Now, 329 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: the restaurant owners claim that they have CCTV footage which 330 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: shows the women continuing to eat whilst complaining about the food. Now, 331 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: after the complaint, the restaurant owners say that staff bought 332 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: the remains of the lobster to the women's table and 333 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: explained that the very vibrant color of the head juices 334 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: means that the crustation has only recently cut, so they 335 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: were trying to prove that this wasn't a frozen lobster. 336 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: The owners then claimed that the women completely finished their 337 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: lobster and wine and then refused to pay. The Post 338 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: then claims that the restaurant's management identified the women through 339 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: Instagram the next day and sent a direct message requesting 340 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: that they settled the bill, which came to three hundred 341 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: and sixty four dollars. Now, after reaching out, the restaurant 342 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: owners alleged that the three women blocked their account and 343 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: this was the kicker. The Post then said, what makes 344 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: this matter worse is that after they left us, they 345 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: went to another seafood restaurant across the road and ordered 346 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: lobster and wine. Again. How could anyone eat more of 347 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: what made them feel sick, let alone order another meal? 348 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 3: Now? 349 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: Does this not. 350 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: Remind you of the Simpsons episode when Homer sues the 351 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: all you can eat seafood restaurant and they go to 352 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: court and they say, Tomage, what happened when you left 353 00:15:58,600 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: the restaurants? 354 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: I think we needed throw to a clip of what was. 355 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: Said missus Simpson, What did you and your husband do 356 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: after you were ejected from the restaurant? We pretty much 357 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: went straight home. Missus Simpson, you're under oath. We drove 358 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: around until three am looking for another all you can 359 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: eat fish restaurant, and when you couldn't find one, we 360 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: went fishing. Now, in this post, the restaurant's management did 361 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: address the diners directly by their name, and said that 362 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: the post would remain online for forty eight hours to 363 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: act as a warning to other hospitality venues about them. 364 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: The post then finished saying, Belinda, Julie, and Jennifer, we 365 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: are disappointed with your dishonest and fraudulent behavior. We have 366 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: hosted many food bloggers before and none have ever acted 367 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: this entitled this is totally classless behavior, and we hope 368 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: your reputation was worth tarnishing for three hundred and sixty 369 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: four dollars. Now, this post was a company by a 370 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: couple more where they shared photographs of where the women 371 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: had been sitting and further comments about their alleged behavior. 372 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: These are pretty big claims that this restaurant made against 373 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: these food bloggers, and that's what they're seeing over. So 374 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: they claim that the post portrayed them as fraudsters who faked. 375 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 2: An illness to get a free meal. 376 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 1: They also say that the Post painted them as scammers 377 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: and bullies. Now they're Barrister Roger Remsen said that while 378 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: the case on the surface appears to be minor, it's 379 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: not because the restaurant's complaint was republished in the Sunday Telegraph, 380 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: which is one of the most widely read newspapers in Australia. 381 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: He continued, saying was also republished on four. 382 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 2: Different news websites. 383 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: Now, before we do get into the court proceedings, when 384 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: I was doing my research into this case, I found 385 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: an article written by the Daily Telegraph in January twenty 386 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: twenty one about this incident. Now, they didn't name the 387 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: food bloggers in question, However, in the article, they go 388 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 1: on to claim that it's not the first time one 389 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: of these food bloggers has attracted backlash from a restaurant. 390 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: Idle reported that acclaimed chef, an owner of bizarre food 391 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: collective Attilia Lilsman, has previously blasted the same food bloggers. 392 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: The chef said that the blogger widely overestimated her pulling 393 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: power to negotiate free meals in exchange for posting pictures 394 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: and glowing endorsements of the food. Attilia is quoted as saying, 395 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: there's no likes or comments about the food on the posts, 396 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: so it appears all fake. She has been around for 397 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: a couple of years and she has hit me up. 398 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: But I told her where to go, He continued, saying, 399 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: she enters into verbal agreements stating she will bring business 400 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: in it, but she doesn't deliver her end of the bargain. Now, 401 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: I do have to point out that that is all 402 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: alleged and that has not been proven. Now, I'm still 403 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: astounded that this has made its way to the federal court. 404 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: The judge put on the case, Justice from With, also 405 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: is rather surprised about it. He has suggested a few 406 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: times that the matter could be better dealt with in 407 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: a lower court by way of mediation. He even went 408 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: as far to say that the federal court should only 409 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: take on high stakes deformation cases such as those by 410 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: acclaimed actor Jeffrey Rush and also Ben Robert Smith. I 411 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: don't think these food bloggers have considered how time consuming 412 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: and also expensive this whole trial is going to be, 413 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: and I think it's all just gotten out of control. 414 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: The only winners in this case are going to be 415 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: the lawyers. It's clear to me that for the food bloggers, 416 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: it's not about money. This is about reputation. 417 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 418 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: Well, Justice Bromwich has said that he would be astonished 419 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: if the food bloggers received any substantial amount of damages 420 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: if they were successful in this case. I do agree 421 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: with you, it's probably reputational repair. What's going to be 422 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: really interesting is if the judge rules in the food 423 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: bloggers favor, it may set precedents for other cases similar 424 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: to this. I mean, think of all the businesses that 425 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: name and shame customers who come in. I've seen so 426 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: many ones about you know, this person has apparently stolen 427 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: this item from store, let's name and shame them. 428 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: Do you know this person? 429 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: Is it going to get to the point where businesses 430 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: are too scared to even call out people potentially doing 431 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: the wrong thing. Yeah, well, I think that's all we've 432 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: got time for today. Thank you for joining us for 433 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: another e episode of Outspoken. 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