WEBVTT - Ask uncut - Put a Single Ring On It

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<v Speaker 1>Lifeun Cut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose lands

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<v Speaker 1>were never seated. We pay our respects to their elders

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<v Speaker 1>past and present.

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<v Speaker 2>Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was

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<v Speaker 2>recorded on de rug Wallamuta Land. Hi guys, and welcome

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<v Speaker 2>back to another episode of Life on Cut.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Laura, I'm Brittany, and this is ask Gun Cut

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<v Speaker 3>where we answer you. Do you dark? And you're burning questions?

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<v Speaker 3>What's going on this Thursday? I woke up in a

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<v Speaker 3>real flurry this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Mcflurry. You work up with a mcfluurry.

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<v Speaker 3>What does that mean? Waking up with desserts in your bed?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Do you know what this is? I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>come straight out of the bat here with the best

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<v Speaker 1>straight out of the gate, the bat, the gate, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you want to come out of. I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 1>straight out of the gate. You know what the best

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<v Speaker 1>mcflurry is?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that took a detail.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in existence, the best mcflow is everything with caramel sauce.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you order that, you'll never be the same again.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so that's not the mcflurry.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you're just saying that the best topping is caramel

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<v Speaker 1>sauce topping. No, you order, this is your order. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>walk you through it if you guys need Hey, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you I'm just gonna get a mcfluury please with

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<v Speaker 1>everything and caramel sauce. That's what you order. You order

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<v Speaker 1>every topping in one and then you put the caramel

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<v Speaker 1>sauce on the top.

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<v Speaker 3>What was the thing that compelled you when you walked

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<v Speaker 3>into McDonald's to place that order? It's probably break You

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<v Speaker 3>were like, I want every single thing. Chuck ash Brown

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<v Speaker 3>in there as well. Please?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I remember the first time we

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<v Speaker 1>are taking such a detoy. This is so funny. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember the first time I ordered that. I was seventeen, no,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had just got my peas. Now, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you just get your license, all you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do is drive your friends around and you go through

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<v Speaker 1>McDonald's drive through. I feel like it's a rite of passage, right,

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<v Speaker 1>McDonald's drive through when you get your license is a

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<v Speaker 1>rite of passage. Now, I remember going through the drive through.

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<v Speaker 1>My mum had this car called a Nissen Exa and

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<v Speaker 1>it was like it was a convertible, like not a

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<v Speaker 1>fancy one, but it was not the roof came off

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<v Speaker 1>and it was bright regularly because it was old.

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<v Speaker 3>And it fell off one day. Ye not because it

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<v Speaker 3>was supposed to.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just one of those ones that like you

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<v Speaker 1>pressed the button and it flaps back and whatever that

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<v Speaker 1>is fans Actually not it wasn't you actually physically pulled

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<v Speaker 1>it off.

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<v Speaker 3>Yea.

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<v Speaker 1>Though the pop tops is a pop top and then

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<v Speaker 1>have the range. I had to pull up aside road

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<v Speaker 1>and put the pop top back off, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>bright red. Anyway, I just got my license and I

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<v Speaker 1>remember going through Maca's drive through and ordered my mcflurry

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<v Speaker 1>thinking I was so cool. My friend was in there

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<v Speaker 1>like we were just killing it. And then I couldn't leave.

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<v Speaker 1>I stalled like five times if at the McDonald's drive

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<v Speaker 1>through window. You know when you just keep stalling, the

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<v Speaker 1>ladies in hysterics, and I've never been more mortified in

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<v Speaker 1>my life. Finally turned the car back on and did

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<v Speaker 1>a burnout out of McDonald's and that was my experience

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<v Speaker 1>for my first month.

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<v Speaker 2>This has turned into a core memory for you. You've

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<v Speaker 2>held you so long and I've never heard that story before.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm traumatized. But anyway, that was Anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for sharing your mcflourish.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you would, so you woke up in a mcflurry.

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<v Speaker 3>We are long gone past that.

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<v Speaker 2>I woke up this morning to a guy coming, or

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<v Speaker 2>as actually two men, two men coming.

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<v Speaker 3>That wast Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>You won't come to Matt coming.

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<v Speaker 2>No, two guys who rocked at my house to fix

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<v Speaker 2>our air conditioning, which is being broken all through summer.

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<v Speaker 2>So glad that they arrived now that it's fucking autumn.

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<v Speaker 2>Might I just add, you know when they say that

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<v Speaker 2>they give you a window, They're like, I'll arrive between

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<v Speaker 2>six am and four in the afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>It's never going to be the six am one. It's

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<v Speaker 1>never going to be right on the dot. You never

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<v Speaker 1>first cab off the rain. So I hear the doorbell go,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm nude, and I was like what anyway, I

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<v Speaker 1>shucked a towel on, thinking it was just someone dropping off.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know what I I just.

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<v Speaker 2>Thought maybe it was a postman or I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but I threw a towel on. Matt had to like

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<v Speaker 2>pick Marley up and put her back in her bedroom. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>open the door and then there's these two men there

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<v Speaker 2>coming to do the two men coming, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>coming to do the air con and I was like fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways, then I spent my morning trying to get ready

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<v Speaker 1>and get dressed and shower myself and be here around

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<v Speaker 1>two foreign men in my room.

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<v Speaker 3>Not foreign, but that was strange.

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<v Speaker 1>They were You're often greet people naked. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>just about a towel on. I don't feel like that

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<v Speaker 1>that's that exposed.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>If you're nude but you put a towel on? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that like very confronting for the person at the door. No,

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<v Speaker 1>But for some reason, it is more like you can

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<v Speaker 1>go to the beach and be in a tiny little

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<v Speaker 1>bikini and it's not like you're showing too much, but

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, if you answered in a towel,

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<v Speaker 1>it hits different because someone knows you you've been masturbating,

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<v Speaker 1>or you've been in the shower or doing something news me. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying you. But the towel at home hits

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<v Speaker 1>different to like a bikini at the beach.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it's context. What if you answer the

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<v Speaker 2>door in a bikini at your house? Also kind of

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<v Speaker 2>weird for six am in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Still fine, the towel hits different.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, did you get just come in?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>And then he was like, can I you know when

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<v Speaker 2>you I just hadn't prepped, Like nothing was cleaned, not

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<v Speaker 2>on me, but like the house was out, The house

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<v Speaker 2>was a mess, the bathroom was like everything about our

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<v Speaker 2>house looks like we are, you know, disgusting.

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<v Speaker 3>We had random people in our house and it was disgusting.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, we're here now, and we've taken a really long

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<v Speaker 1>time to get to the point, which is that we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to answer your questions. You were not there yet talking. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>we're having a yarn, Misschew. I came in this morning

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<v Speaker 1>and Laura goes, oh, you look pretty and I was like, thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>could I wearing a very like Buffonti top no over.

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<v Speaker 1>Then she goes, oh, I know what's happening. And what

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, the peacocking has begun.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I said, what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, well, do you go on to see Ben

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<v Speaker 1>next week? The peacocking has begun, and there is something

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<v Speaker 1>to be said for that, like the pruning and the preening,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're getting ready is starting, the nails are starting,

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<v Speaker 1>the lashes are starting.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we all know.

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<v Speaker 2>After last week's episode, the waxing has probably started as well.

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<v Speaker 3>A wick whacker?

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<v Speaker 1>What is yes? I actually just might have one on

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<v Speaker 1>each point.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of you won't know this, but like Britt

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<v Speaker 2>is going over to see ben next week and they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have what like two weeks together.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we won a two week holiday radio break. We're

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<v Speaker 1>still bringing you the podcast, but we're we've got radio breaks,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're like, what are we going to do? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to duck over to see Benjamin? Which is his name? Benjamin? Benjamin? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't pronounce the jay?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, thanks?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you feel you in a scale of one

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<v Speaker 2>too excited? Like do you feel nervous to see him?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you just excited to see I know you guys

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<v Speaker 2>FaceTime every day, but like me now a couple of months.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not nervous at all, but I cannot wait to

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<v Speaker 1>have sex.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Like, don't wait for his dad to listen to

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<v Speaker 2>this episode, Hi, dad in law.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think that's standard where adults we've been

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<v Speaker 1>apart for a couple of months, we're in love. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's normal. But no, I'm excited for sure. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just that it's the weather's not great there, which is fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going for the weather. I'm going for love.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't annoy you though that every time you take a holiday,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah you have to go somewhere that's cold and wet. Correct. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it sucks, It really sucks. It actually really does suck.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess the difference is he so you guys know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going. It's my holiday, so I get two weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>but he doesn't. He's not on holiday. He still works

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<v Speaker 1>every day. I think he only gets one day off

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<v Speaker 1>the entire time there. So it's just part of the

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<v Speaker 1>long distance commitment. I guess I'll see him in the mornings,

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<v Speaker 1>I see him the afternoon and night, but he still

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<v Speaker 1>goes and does his job. And I'll still be recording

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast from there, so it's gonna be fine. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>there some little check ins from Scotland. Anyhow, accents are

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<v Speaker 1>not my thing. I want to talk to you about

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<v Speaker 1>something else, something more, something more serious. Okay. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you've seen this going around. There's a company

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<v Speaker 1>called Pair and they have released this new silicone ring.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this is when I read this, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>is this a penis ring? Is this a cock ring? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is this silicon ring? Why does it need to

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<v Speaker 1>be silicone? I don't think it has to be. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just what it is. Long story short, they've released a

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<v Speaker 1>ring for singles to wear single people to sort of

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<v Speaker 1>put out to the world that they're open to being

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<v Speaker 1>approached when they're out, that they're single, that they're open

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<v Speaker 1>to date. Now, the premise is, when we're in love

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<v Speaker 1>and we're taken and we're married, we wear a ring,

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<v Speaker 1>we wear a wedding ring, and when you're out. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you ever did this, Laura, I know

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<v Speaker 1>producer Keisha did I know? I do when I was single,

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<v Speaker 1>you do glance down to check if there's a ring.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's even if it's subconscious, because if

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<v Speaker 1>someone's got a wedding ring on, you're not even on

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<v Speaker 1>your radar. So the idea is, okay, if we can

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<v Speaker 1>do that when we're married and saying we're taken, why

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<v Speaker 1>can't we do it and say we're open to dating.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's this this blue silicon ring that people are

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to wear on their middle finger. It's like forty bucks,

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<v Speaker 1>which is so much for a silicon ring, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>so that you wear it out and it's signaling to

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<v Speaker 1>everybody that, like, hey, I am open to being approached

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<v Speaker 1>if you like, Now, what do you think about this idea?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't hate the idea, like I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>hate the idea that there is a physical marker, which

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<v Speaker 1>kind of is like, I'm open to being approached, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm open to the idea of dating, right, especially for

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<v Speaker 1>someone who might be introverted and might not like be

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<v Speaker 1>very good at starting conversations or Yeah, but I also think, what's.

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<v Speaker 2>The likelihood, like how popular is this thing? Because what's

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<v Speaker 2>the likelihood that someone's actually gonna have it? Not only

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<v Speaker 2>that someone's gonna have it, but that someone's even gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have any fucking idea what this thing is?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is I mean because people like us are

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it, Okay, right, it's actually brilliant marketing from

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<v Speaker 1>the team fighting the good fight it is. It's brilliant marketing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean it's like anything. It's like when Tinder started.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember back in the day when the first online real

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<v Speaker 1>online dating app started and a no one knew about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but everyone was like, ill, I don't want to go

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<v Speaker 1>online dating, and it wasn't a really popular thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't the done thing, and it was almost a

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<v Speaker 1>thing that you did in secret at the start. But

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<v Speaker 1>then you people talk about it, it becomes popular and it

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<v Speaker 1>takes off. I reckon that's what might happen with the

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<v Speaker 1>Silicon ring. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think when you talk about like online dating, I

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<v Speaker 2>think online dating has been through several phases of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think originally online dating was like your e harmony

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<v Speaker 2>and it was sort of fish yeah, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>for older people, like people who maybe had been divorced

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<v Speaker 2>and were looking for companionship. It kind of had a

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<v Speaker 2>really different feeling around it.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like it was very serious. Yeah, like you

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<v Speaker 1>were on plenty of fish. You were wanting to settle

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<v Speaker 1>down a husband. You were wanting that deep and meaningful chat.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not wanting like the friends with benefit.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I think as Tinder came into the scene,

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<v Speaker 2>it changed the age demographic, like it really brought it down.

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<v Speaker 2>But I remember originally when Tinder came out, the feeling

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<v Speaker 2>around it was like, oh my god, as if you

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<v Speaker 2>would use a dating site. And then it was only

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<v Speaker 2>as it grew in popularity and kind of it got

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<v Speaker 2>to a point where almost everyone was on there. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're online dating, it's so commonplace now that there's absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>no judgment with it. But I think it's the same

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<v Speaker 2>thing for this, right, Like no one wants to be

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<v Speaker 2>the first to do something. No one wants to be

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<v Speaker 2>the first to wear a ring on their middle finger

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<v Speaker 2>and be.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I am single, because it sounds a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Lame, and it also makes you seem like a tattoo

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<v Speaker 1>on your head, being like available, open, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it almost makes that that's become like such a

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<v Speaker 2>core part of your identity. And it also means that

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<v Speaker 2>like you're aggressively looking for someone by constantly wearing something

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<v Speaker 2>that says to everybody around you, I am single.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember just like taking them back a step. But

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when I went on online dating for the

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<v Speaker 1>same I felt the same thing. I was, you're almost

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassed to tell people about it. And then I remember

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<v Speaker 1>matching with someone and I was like loose dating them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember having a conversation about how we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to tell people we met. What story are we going

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<v Speaker 1>to come up with, because there's no way you can say,

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<v Speaker 1>like when we met on Tinder. Even my sister Sherry

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<v Speaker 1>and her now husband Jay, who met on Tinder. They've

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<v Speaker 1>been together. I guess it's six this years now, So

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<v Speaker 1>they met about six years ago, which you know, Tinder's

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<v Speaker 1>been out way longer than that. But even when they

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<v Speaker 1>met for a few years they were like, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>to come up with story. How embarrassing, And it's still

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<v Speaker 1>sort of until the last few years. Now they don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny, but it took quite a long time for

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<v Speaker 1>it to be acceptable. And I don't know if that's

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<v Speaker 1>just online dating or if it takes us as a

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<v Speaker 1>person a lot to accept that we don't have our

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<v Speaker 1>meat cue because online dating isn't the story that you want,

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<v Speaker 1>like you want. Even when I met Ben, which we

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<v Speaker 1>met online, we started to joke, he said, I said

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. He's like, can we come up with

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<v Speaker 1>a better story? How nice would it have been if

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<v Speaker 1>we were walking past each other on the promenade and

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<v Speaker 1>running to each other with a dog and started talking.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're like, at the end of the day, it

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<v Speaker 1>is what it is. Ninety percent of people that's made

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<v Speaker 1>up statistic. A lot of people meet online and it's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It just takes that romantic story away.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean when you.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about a meat cute, it's because we've been sold

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<v Speaker 2>for so long that relationships in the start of relationships

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<v Speaker 2>are supposed to be this really like romantic idealic, magical time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess when you bring in the tech of it,

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<v Speaker 2>do you eat tinder or bumble? It takes that romance

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<v Speaker 2>and that romantic idea out of it, which I do

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<v Speaker 2>also think for this new ring, do I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to take off?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Really, realistically, I will eat my own shit if it does.

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<v Speaker 2>But Keisha last because she's like the amount of times

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<v Speaker 2>you've had to eat shit on this podcast. No, But

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<v Speaker 2>I just think, like, will it take off?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>But also I mean I would never have thought that

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<v Speaker 2>online dating is as prolific as what it is now,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I never thought that it would become so

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<v Speaker 2>commonplace that majority of people who are single would have

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<v Speaker 2>it on their phones. I think that there is a

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<v Speaker 2>big difference between wearing a wedding ring when you're married

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<v Speaker 2>and wearing a ring on your middle finger to be single,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think for me, like I wear a wedding

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<v Speaker 2>ring for myself, I'm not wearing a wedding ring to

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<v Speaker 2>be like.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, boys don't come near me I've got a wedding

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<v Speaker 1>ring on because you need to beat those I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to beg them off me. Like, that's not I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that that's why most people wear a wedding ring.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the majority of people wear a wedding ring

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a reminder of that commitment for themselves. It's

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<v Speaker 1>also like for me, you know, I think jewelry and

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<v Speaker 1>this is coming from the jury designer and me, I

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<v Speaker 1>think jewry is really important tonymaine dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no sale this week.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's really special because jewelry is this one item,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you don't really have it with clothing. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>have it with hair products or other accessories or handbags,

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<v Speaker 2>but jewelry transports you to a time.

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<v Speaker 3>It's something that can have so much meaning. Imdude in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it could be from your grandmother, it could be

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<v Speaker 2>something that's a family air loom. Like jewelry is very

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<v Speaker 2>sentimental because it carries stories with it. And so that's

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<v Speaker 2>why I think wedding rings are so important. Do I

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<v Speaker 2>think that having a single ring has the same importance

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<v Speaker 2>norm I think it's like it's almost the opposite. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like a very much a branding of like I am single, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>which is fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's fine. The problem I think it could

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<v Speaker 1>have is that will it open you up to being

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<v Speaker 1>approached by anyone? Because that's not what it means when

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<v Speaker 1>you're wearing this ring. It doesn't mean I'm open for

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<v Speaker 1>every single Joe blow in this place to take anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>It also takes away because you know how sometimes if

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<v Speaker 1>someone approaches you and you're not interested, you say sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing someone. You can't do that anymore because they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>well that you're lying because you've got the blue ring on.

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<v Speaker 1>Like so, I don't know if I was single, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I would wear it, And I also would

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<v Speaker 1>hope like, are we as a generation I'm getting really

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<v Speaker 1>deep now as a generation, at the point where we

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<v Speaker 1>can't just go and have a conversation with someone in

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<v Speaker 1>real life if we're interested. Are we at a point

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<v Speaker 1>where we're so scared of being rejected that we won't

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<v Speaker 1>try to have that conversation? Like I would still appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>someone coming up to me and saying, hey, saw you

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<v Speaker 1>across there, Like can I get your drink? Even if

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, oh my god, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually seeing someone and they're like cool, no worries.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are these days gone? Why can't we do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Why are we still? I think we're all try in

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<v Speaker 1>this idea of like being on our phones, being on media,

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<v Speaker 1>having to need a ring just have a conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's easy to say that, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's a big spectrum of different types of people and personalities.

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<v Speaker 2>There's been people who have always struggled with just walking

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<v Speaker 2>up to someone in the bar. Yes, we know that,

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<v Speaker 2>like people are more adverse to it now because of

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<v Speaker 2>online dating, but there have been a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>and I would say most people struggle with just going

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<v Speaker 2>up and striking a conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have that confidence and I talk for a living.

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<v Speaker 1>Would a blue ring give you that confidence? So if

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<v Speaker 1>you were the person that struggles to have a conversation anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>if someone has a ring on, is that going to

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<v Speaker 1>make all of a sudden your idea of public speaking

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<v Speaker 1>fear go away?

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<v Speaker 3>Not at all?

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<v Speaker 2>Benefitent It may make me seem more approachable in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of like, it may break that barrier down and may

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<v Speaker 2>make it easier for someone else to approach me. That

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<v Speaker 2>might be why someone's wearing it. They might wear it

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<v Speaker 2>not because it's going to be them doing the initiating,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's a signifier that they're open to other people

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<v Speaker 2>initiating and they think that that might, you know, make

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<v Speaker 2>that more accessible.

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<v Speaker 3>Keisha's had an idea.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually just remember when I was at schoolies this

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<v Speaker 4>gone back in the Gold Coast. I remember when we

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<v Speaker 4>used to go into the clubs and they would give

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<v Speaker 4>you an option of picking a red sticker or a

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<v Speaker 4>green sticker, and it was to indicate whether you were

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<v Speaker 4>single or in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like the matrix.

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<v Speaker 3>At school in the Gold Coast in twenty eleven.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I graduated and yeah, used to go in

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<v Speaker 4>and I remember I thought I was a fucking genius

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<v Speaker 4>because I had really long hair, so I would get

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<v Speaker 4>both stickers and I would flip my hair from one side.

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<v Speaker 3>To the other depending on who the person was.

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<v Speaker 1>That is pretty smart, that's fair. And then they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>show me your other side.

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<v Speaker 3>But like the concept is the same.

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<v Speaker 4>It's to kind of be like, are you open to

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<v Speaker 4>being approached or you closed off?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that's the problem. What you just said,

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<v Speaker 1>you had the pre thought of being like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>might not want them to talk to me if you've

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<v Speaker 1>got this blue ring on baby that rings on if

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<v Speaker 1>you are single, if you're a listener and you're single.

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<v Speaker 1>We wanna do a pole because we genuinely want to

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<v Speaker 1>know would people wear this stuff? Would you buy a

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<v Speaker 1>blue silicon ring for forty dollars to wear out to

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<v Speaker 1>indicate that you're single, or like, you know, maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>life oncut one. Let's make one the one. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>I was putting the fields out fall. It's just all right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for Vibe and unsubscribe. Actually I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>have an unsubscribe. I only have a Vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>This is basically like what we're recommending this week, or

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<v Speaker 2>what we've used or come across that we think is

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<v Speaker 2>very handy and very useful. And I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>many people this is going to be useful too, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to throw it out there anyway because it

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<v Speaker 2>makes my life so much easier. And every single time

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<v Speaker 2>I post a reel or I post a video on

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<v Speaker 2>like Instagram or social media where I have edited my

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<v Speaker 2>clips together, like my videos together, I always get questions

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<v Speaker 2>as to how I've done it. And I feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're someone who spends a lot of time on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 2>you probably will already know this. But if you're somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who just really wants to maybe I don't know, make

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<v Speaker 2>a family video or make a reel, and you want

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<v Speaker 2>an easy way, an easier way of doing it, it's

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<v Speaker 2>an app.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So the app I'm recommending is called Splice. Matt got

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<v Speaker 2>me onto it. It is what he edits every single

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<v Speaker 2>one of his dumb, funny skits with. It is so

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<v Speaker 2>easy to use. It's a very intuitive video editing app

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<v Speaker 2>that you can download through the app Store. Also not sponsored.

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<v Speaker 2>You can do voiceover on it. You can add music

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<v Speaker 2>from iTunes, you can add your own music and do

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<v Speaker 2>fade ins, fade out. Literally anything that you can think

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<v Speaker 2>of in terms of video editing, you can do it

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<v Speaker 2>through this app. And it also just makes it so

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<v Speaker 2>unbelievably easy. You can do it all on your phone.

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<v Speaker 2>So that is my recommendation. It is called Splice, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it is freaking great. I use it genuinely

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<v Speaker 2>every week.

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<v Speaker 1>I also use Splice and I have for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>I can vibe your vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when I said I was like, this is what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm recommending this week, brit It was like, that is

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<v Speaker 2>not a hot take, and I was like, well, other

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<v Speaker 2>people might not know it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just didn't know how many people want to edit

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<v Speaker 1>their videos. But it is great. I just even do

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<v Speaker 1>little delila of videos with it. It's brilliant. From like complicated

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<v Speaker 1>to the little it's great. My vibe this week is

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<v Speaker 1>a TV show. It's a show that has kept me

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely hooked. I haven't had this level of interest in

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<v Speaker 1>a very long time. The only other one I recommend

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<v Speaker 1>a few weeks ago, so You, which was brilliant. I

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<v Speaker 1>finished that, also brilliant. But this is on Netflix and

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<v Speaker 1>it's called sweet Tooth, so it's pretty new because I

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<v Speaker 1>saw it in the trending in the other day. Sweet

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<v Speaker 1>Tooth now as a really tiny little wrap up of

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<v Speaker 1>what it is, just trust me on it. It's post apocalyptic.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a virus where I feel like it was very

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<v Speaker 1>covid es because this virus came through lots of people

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<v Speaker 1>were dying from it, and off the back of that,

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<v Speaker 1>these babies were being born, not all of them, but

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<v Speaker 1>some babies were being born. And they call them hybrids,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a half animal half human. Everybody thinks that

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<v Speaker 1>these hybrids are the reason the virus came, so they're

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to kill off all these children and are half

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<v Speaker 1>animal and half human. And the whole idea of this

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<v Speaker 1>show is this one little boy it follows who is

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<v Speaker 1>a half deer. He's the cutest little thing. He ends

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<v Speaker 1>up being alone in the wilderness and this man finds

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<v Speaker 1>him and it's them against the world for a little while,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find his long lost mum. It sounds probably

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<v Speaker 1>terrible if you're listening, it is so good and on

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<v Speaker 1>Rotten Tomatoes i checked, it rates very very highly. He

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really have any bad reviews. So not my usual show.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm really going to recommend this to the show

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<v Speaker 1>Sweet Tooth on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 2>When you tried to describe to me what it was about,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, this is the weirdest thing I've ever heard,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm a kind of hood on the second describe,

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<v Speaker 2>might give it a Goain, It's really really good.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta trust me, all right, get into the questions.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was on a night out with a friend,

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<v Speaker 2>I met a guy. He was so charming and flirty

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<v Speaker 2>and we immediately hit it off. His friend invited, asked

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<v Speaker 2>me and my friend back to his apartment where we

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<v Speaker 2>could continue having drinks. Our physical intimacy progressed throughout the

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<v Speaker 2>night and we got very close. Only I didn't sleep

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<v Speaker 2>with him because I kind of got this weird gut

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<v Speaker 2>feeling that something was off.

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<v Speaker 3>But we did plenty of other things.

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<v Speaker 2>We left the night with me giving him my number

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<v Speaker 2>and saying we couldn't wait to go on another date

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<v Speaker 2>and spend some more time together. The next day, I

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<v Speaker 2>found his Instagram and naturally started talking him. His tag

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<v Speaker 2>photos have a wedding video of him and his beautiful wife.

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<v Speaker 2>I then clicked on her profile and it showed me

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<v Speaker 2>that they are still very much married and very much

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<v Speaker 2>still in love. I feel disgusted with him and myself.

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<v Speaker 2>My question is this, do you think the wife has

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<v Speaker 2>a right to know? And should I be the one

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<v Speaker 2>to tell her? If I was in her shoes, I

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<v Speaker 2>know that I would want to know about his infidelity.

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<v Speaker 1>Please never help know the answer to these. It's so

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<v Speaker 1>hard because he didn't do anything right. Yeah they're kissed, No,

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<v Speaker 1>well physically that we did everything but have sex, so.

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<v Speaker 3>You know he oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what The thing is, though, the reason

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<v Speaker 1>these are so hard is because yes, I would want

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<v Speaker 1>to know if I was the wife, if my partner

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<v Speaker 1>was playing up, But do you want to bring in

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<v Speaker 1>the shit storm that this is going to bring in,

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<v Speaker 1>Like she's going to want to talk to you, she's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna want to involve you, she's going to want to

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<v Speaker 1>speak to you on the phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything hard of it is because also she's just there

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<v Speaker 2>living her life, being happy. She's happily married, everything's fine, fine, fine, fine,

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<v Speaker 2>find fine. She lives in like Narnia, and then all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden her world is going to come crashing

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<v Speaker 2>down all around her, but her entire reality is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be crushed.

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<v Speaker 1>I would probably message him and be like, fuck you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd let him know that I know you piece of shit,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a wife, blah blah blah blah blah. I

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<v Speaker 1>would do that, because that's just like I'd just be angry.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if i'd want to invite that into

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<v Speaker 1>my life. And I feel bad saying it because I

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<v Speaker 1>have been on the receiving end of both. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>the person that someone's told, which you know I've appreciated.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's also a part of you that it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>why did you tell me that? Like we've ruined it

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<v Speaker 1>even though you want to know. And then I've been

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<v Speaker 1>the person that has told somebody, and I regretted that

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<v Speaker 1>at the end deeply the shit storm that that brought

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<v Speaker 1>for over a year, and I was like, I should

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<v Speaker 1>it just let it go?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that these situations are so personal, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that every single person who's put into this situation

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<v Speaker 2>will react differently. Would I want to know if I

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<v Speaker 2>was the wife, like if Matt had gone out and

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<v Speaker 2>done something like this to me, would I want to know?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I expect somebody who doesn't know me to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>bring on that drama, to kind of take the moral

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<v Speaker 2>high road and be the person to tell me. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't expect that of anyone else. I expected of my husband,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't expect it of a stranger. I think

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<v Speaker 2>in this instance, whichever option you choose to do, there

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<v Speaker 2>is no right or wrong answer. It's whatever you can

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<v Speaker 2>morally live with and whatever you can bring into your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Because if you're going, yeah, it's going to bring with

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<v Speaker 2>it some fucking baggage. This one night almost stand that

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<v Speaker 2>you had is going to bring with it so much

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<v Speaker 2>drama because you're going to have to justify what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to have to give her details. She's going

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<v Speaker 2>to want to know the whole story. He's going to

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<v Speaker 2>probably contact you and blow the fuck up as well, like.

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<v Speaker 1>She'd probably end up believing him over you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a good chance that they'll work through it,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know she only has the small pieces of

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<v Speaker 2>information that you're giving her, and probably only as much

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<v Speaker 2>as you feel comfortable with actually telling her and the

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<v Speaker 2>amount of time that you because you're going to give

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<v Speaker 2>the information and then walk away like you're dropping the bomb,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you're leaving it for her to figure out.

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<v Speaker 2>So she will probably reach out to you to try

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<v Speaker 2>and get more closure, more information, more understanding, which you

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<v Speaker 2>can't blame her if she does that. I do not

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<v Speaker 2>think if I was in this situation that I would

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<v Speaker 2>tell the wife, and I know that that goes against

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<v Speaker 2>me saying that if I was the wife, I would

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<v Speaker 2>want to know, but I don't think that I would

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<v Speaker 2>want to bring that level of drama into my life.

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<v Speaker 2>And I may contact him and say, hey, you're an

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<v Speaker 2>absolute piece of Shit's me, you are a piece of shit.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not my responsibility to play vigilante for their relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not my responsibility to hold him accountable for the

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<v Speaker 2>way that he's behaving in his relationship. And it's not

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<v Speaker 2>your responsibility either, if you want to take the moral

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<v Speaker 2>high road and do that, though you're absolutely entitled to tricky.

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<v Speaker 3>What would you do if.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't happen? I would do it, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's because and I say the same thing. I say,

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<v Speaker 1>I would want to know for sure, but I have

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<v Speaker 1>done it. I went back and forth for about two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks when this situation happened to me, do I tell

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<v Speaker 1>this person this is the problem? Right? It wasn't that

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<v Speaker 1>the boyfriend and nearly cheated with me, But I knew

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<v Speaker 1>he was cheating on this girl. But she was my friend,

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<v Speaker 1>if this makes sense, So I knew her. We weren't close,

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<v Speaker 1>we were just associated. And I went back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>because I was like, it wasn't me, but I do know,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like wanting to marry him, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh my god. I eventually decided to I

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<v Speaker 1>ask some other friends. They were like, probably tell her

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<v Speaker 1>fucking ship fight? Like oh, I was like, what I

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<v Speaker 1>I I had so much regret that I did it

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<v Speaker 1>in the end because that she didn't believe me for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, and then I got stuck in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there was a bit of like accusations towards me,

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<v Speaker 1>or how do I know this way? Did I get

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<v Speaker 1>it from? Why would I?

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<v Speaker 2>Because they or people always want to shoot the messenger

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<v Speaker 2>when you're when your entire identity, your whole world just

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<v Speaker 2>came crashing down. The last person that you're grateful towards

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<v Speaker 2>is the person who tells you you're feeling fucking mad.

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<v Speaker 1>And fast forward a couple of years and she was

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<v Speaker 1>great about it. She's moved on, she understood why the time,

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<v Speaker 1>But it was still what that brought into my life,

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<v Speaker 1>the anxiety that then I was going to run into

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<v Speaker 1>them because then she told him that it was me

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<v Speaker 1>that dropped the informations that he was in and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, ough out, like it wasn't my best friend,

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<v Speaker 1>it was I just thought I was doing the whole

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<v Speaker 1>girl code thing and it just backfired. So I think,

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<v Speaker 1>if this situation, if it is someone, if it happened

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<v Speaker 1>like that and it was someone close to you, then

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<v Speaker 1>of course you would do it. Like if it's a

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<v Speaker 1>good friend or someone you really know, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>just some guy you met. I would just don't think

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<v Speaker 1>i'd do it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like this whole idea of girl code, Like I get,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that you want to have another woman's back,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to look out for their welfare and their

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<v Speaker 2>well being, especially when you know that they're in a

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<v Speaker 2>bad relationship. But I don't want someone listening to this

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<v Speaker 2>thinking like, oh, like you know you've chosen the wrong thing,

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<v Speaker 2>or because you wouldn't do it, that you're a bad person.

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay to have boundaries in your own life to

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<v Speaker 2>preserve your own mental health. And I think bringing purposely

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<v Speaker 2>or knowingly bringing drama into your life that you may

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<v Speaker 2>not have the emotional capacity to deal with right now,

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay that you choose that option.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, you can definitely choose you in that situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Totally.

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<v Speaker 1>Question two Okay, a little longer, but I'm feeling this

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Hi, girls, I live overseas and I've been

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<v Speaker 1>listening and loving your podcast since twenty twenty. My love

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<v Speaker 1>of Ozzie podcast, including yours, has actually played a role

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<v Speaker 1>in my decision to move to Australia for a year.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody is exactly like us here.

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<v Speaker 1>Which brings us to my issue. I decided on my

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<v Speaker 1>own that I want to do this yearly adventure to Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do have a boyfriend of just over two years.

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<v Speaker 1>When I told him about my choice, I pretty much said,

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<v Speaker 1>come with me or don't, but either way, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to Australia. After some thought, he decided to come with me.

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<v Speaker 1>My issue here is, oh, I don't actually know if

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<v Speaker 1>he's the one. I have a lot of love for him,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think I'm in love with him. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that either going on this adventure with him will

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<v Speaker 1>be a good thing or take away an opportunity for

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<v Speaker 1>me to have a solo experience and a fresh start.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm twenty six years old, which I know in many

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<v Speaker 1>ways is still young, but I'd like to get married

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<v Speaker 1>and have kids sooner or later. There is nothing wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with my boyfriend. He's so loving and kind, He's someone

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<v Speaker 1>that I can rely on, etc. He's really excited for

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<v Speaker 1>this trip to Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>But before we.

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<v Speaker 1>Start booking it and one hundred percent looking in, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure if it's the right thing to

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<v Speaker 1>do to bring in with me, Do I bring him

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<v Speaker 1>with me to have an experience knowing he might not

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<v Speaker 1>be the one, Or do I cut it now so

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<v Speaker 1>I can experience a solo trip and fresh start.

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<v Speaker 3>Um, what should she do?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I know what. I think. Laura's confused just thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about what she wants to do. But I know what

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<v Speaker 1>I would do in this situation. What I would do

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<v Speaker 1>is say, I'm really excited to go on this trip,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do want to have a little bit of independence.

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<v Speaker 1>So why don't you ask or tell him you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to go for a few months first, because you want

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 1>to be solo. Like it could be one month, two months,

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 1>three months, and then he can maybecome and meet you

0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:52.480
<v Speaker 1>after the fact, so you do get to experience some

0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 1>travel on your own. I think that is completely fine

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 1>to do, and then he can come later say I

0:28:57.160 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 1>want to go do some solo travel, do some backpacking,

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 1>experience life on my own. I think the issue, though,

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:06.000
<v Speaker 1>is that you've already invited him, You've already said come,

0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 1>and now he's excited. You can change it. He can

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:09.480
<v Speaker 1>still come, he's just coming three months later.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine Imagine if Ben, Imagine if he had said, let's

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 2>go traveling together. You had gotten excited, and then he

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:19.959
<v Speaker 2>turned around and said, hey, honey, actually I want some

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 2>solo time. I want to go for three months on

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 2>my own.

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I did this. I did this for an entire year.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you did, but you were the one who

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<v Speaker 1>did it. I'm saying, imagine if you were on the

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:32.200
<v Speaker 1>receiving end of this, you would fucking hate it. I

0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:35.360
<v Speaker 1>do not think I think that is the best thing

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 1>to do in this situation. You don't know if you

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 1>want him to come, but you don't know if you

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 1>don't want him to come, like you don't know, so

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:43.960
<v Speaker 1>go on your own for a couple of months. You're

0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>either going to miss him terribly and cannot wait till

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 1>he comes and you'll say, come right now, I miss you,

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 1>or you'll realize that, Okay, I didn't actually miss him

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 1>that much. I love my new life. I know now

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 1>that this is the life I want. I don't really

0:29:58.080 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>see another way around this. The last thing you want

0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 1>to do is bring this poor guy, make him move

0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 1>across the world for you to get there, and then say, souls,

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I made a mistake to me. That is ten times

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 1>worse than saying, hey, I'm going to actually go for

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 1>two months on my own and then you come. I

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know if I agree in this, because I guess

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 1>for me, I know that you have done something similar,

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 1>but you also use it as a trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out what.

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:22.400
<v Speaker 3>You wanted in your relationship.

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 2>But I think by doing that, you're expecting someone to

0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 2>wait around, but you haven't actually told them that you're

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 2>not sure, and I think that that's kind of unfair.

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:33.280
<v Speaker 2>I do actually think that the lack of transparency with

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 2>that person means either it's just hurtful to say, hey,

0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 2>let's do this trip together and then turn around and say, oh, actually,

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:40.640
<v Speaker 2>let's do three months apart.

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 3>I know if that was me and that was my.

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Partner and he had said that to me, I would

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 1>be deeply hurt that they had changed their mind and

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be away from me. Would you not be

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>more hurt if they made you move across the world

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 1>and then were like psych totally?

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 2>Which is also why I think there needs to be

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 2>some very honest conversations now that I don't think it

0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 2>has to be black or white. I think it can

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 2>be you know, I really need to do this. I'm

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 2>not sure what I want in my life.

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:04.959
<v Speaker 3>Right now. I love being with you.

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:06.960
<v Speaker 2>You're an amazing person, but there is a part of

0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 2>me that really feels like I need to go and

0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 2>experience the world and have some independence. I guess my

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 2>worry is is that if you kind of just frame

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:18.240
<v Speaker 2>it as though I want to just go and do

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 2>two months of solo travel and then come meet me,

0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 2>he's still going to put his life on hold. He's

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 2>still going to make all those arrangements in his mind

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 2>that's happening in two months time. But then you've left

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 2>your options open, so then you could turn around and

0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 2>go actually, don't come for me, which.

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, at the end of the day, say whatever

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 1>you want to him. But I think the only answer

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 1>here is to go by yourself for a month or two.

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I really do. I don't think there's any way around this.

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Can I mean, and they're not moving to another country,

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 2>They're just going for an extended trip.

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Is that not no year is moving you're moving overseas

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 1>for a year.

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Is it not possible to kind of put a shorter

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 2>time period on it and go together. I mean, I

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 2>think that travel is such a make or break in relationships.

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 2>You're going to know very quickly whether you enjoy it,

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:03.720
<v Speaker 2>because I think travel puts a pressure cooker in any relationship.

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 2>It's like you either thrive in that environment or you

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 2>don't at all. Because who's to say that just because

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:12.160
<v Speaker 2>you did organize to spend an entire year together, that

0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 2>your relationship is gonna last that year anyway?

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 3>Do you know what I mean?

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Like you might break up, you might like things happen.

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Just because you've committed to a year travel together doesn't

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 2>mean that you absolutely cannot break up with that person

0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:23.920
<v Speaker 2>in a year.

0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 1>I guess the reason I'm pushing I mean, like Laura

0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:28.320
<v Speaker 1>and I we have different ideas of how this should

0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 1>go down, which is fine. The reason I'm pushing to

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>go on your own at the start and then to

0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 1>come rather than you both to go together, is because

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 1>you've literally said, I don't know if I want to

0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>be solo. I don't know what that is like. You're

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:43.080
<v Speaker 1>not going to know what that's like. If he comes

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 1>with you from the very start, you're just not going

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 1>to because he doesn't know anyone in that country. You

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know anyone in that country. You're going to want

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 1>to spend all your time together. The only way you

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 1>are going to have a proper solo experience is if

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:58.360
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't come with you immediately. Now that could just

0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 1>be four weeks for you. It could be as it

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 1>could be twelve weeks. I mean I did it for

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 1>an entire year. My partner was going to come and

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 1>then I was like, do you know what I And

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I was with him for four years. I said, I

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 1>just want to be on my own for you, like

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 1>I love you, We're going to stay together, but I

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 1>want to experience solely trouble. And he was like, I

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 1>get it shatted, I'm not going to see you, but like,

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 1>that's what life is. If you want to go and

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 1>experience sometime on your own, do it, and it is

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 1>a conversation you need to have. However you want to

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:25.200
<v Speaker 1>phrase that, if you want to tell him you're unsure

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 1>about him, or if you want to say I just

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 1>want to know what some independence is, like I want

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 1>to feel that, I want to be scared. I want

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 1>to not know what's around the corner. I want to

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 1>have to figure out stuff on my own. However you

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 1>want to frame it, I just genuinely don't believe if

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 1>you guys come together, you're ever going to get that experience.

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 3>I do agree.

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that you'll get that experience, but I

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 2>do think that you have to make a decision around

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 2>how you have the conversation. And I don't think that

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 2>you can just keep someone waiting while you figure your

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 2>life out. And that's my only thing that I guess.

0:33:56.640 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 2>The thing that's different with you, Britt is when you left,

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 2>did you know for and that you still wanted to

0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:03.280
<v Speaker 2>be with him, or were you like, Hey, you pause

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 2>your life, I'm going to go live my life for

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 2>a year and then I'm going to come back to this.

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Or were you like, hey, I'm going to go live

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:09.760
<v Speaker 2>my life for a year and I'll make a decision

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 2>as to whether I want you or not.

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I was option B. I didn't know what I

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:15.040
<v Speaker 1>wanted and that was why I did it. I didn't

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:17.240
<v Speaker 1>know who I was. I didn't know what I wanted

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:18.719
<v Speaker 1>life to be. If I wanted to be with him,

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:19.760
<v Speaker 1>if he was the right person.

0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 2>But was he very well aware that that's what you

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:24.799
<v Speaker 2>were doing and he chose in see that to me

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 2>is unfair.

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 1>No, because why would I do that for him? Because

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I still loved him and I wouldn't want him to

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 1>go and sit there thinking what am I doing? Am

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I going to leave him any second? I think that's

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 1>worse because we still loved each other fiercely, but deep inside,

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:39.359
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know who I was because I'd only ever

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:41.360
<v Speaker 1>been with this person, and I'd never ever been on

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:43.479
<v Speaker 1>my own, so I didn't know if I just wanted

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 1>to be on my own and come back to him

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:47.880
<v Speaker 1>or if I wasn't if it wasn't him, and the

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:49.279
<v Speaker 1>only way I could work that out was to go

0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:49.839
<v Speaker 1>and be on my own.

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:52.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, look, I can understand what you're saying.

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:54.800
<v Speaker 2>I guess I'm looking at this from the other side

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 2>of it, from the person who's being left, And I

0:34:57.280 --> 0:35:00.840
<v Speaker 2>think it is a bit selfish to not be honest

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 2>that you're trying to figure things out, because that person

0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:06.480
<v Speaker 2>is essentially putting their life on hold being committed to you,

0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:09.439
<v Speaker 2>thinking that you're committed to them while you're out there

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 2>in the world kind of just living life independent of them,

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 2>really unsure as to whether they're the person. And I

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:18.040
<v Speaker 2>think everybody deserves to be in a relationship with someone

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 2>who fiercely chooses them, And I don't know if you

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:23.040
<v Speaker 2>can waste a year of someone's time figuring that out.

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:24.799
<v Speaker 1>Well, what wouldn't be here, She'd be gone for two

0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:27.760
<v Speaker 1>months and then should decide. But think of it this way. Okay,

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 1>so we're doing all angles here. If you say to

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:32.719
<v Speaker 1>him now, because I also get what you're saying, Laura,

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:34.840
<v Speaker 1>but she's not sure that's what she wants. She just

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been on her own yet. If you say to him,

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I want to be with you.

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I love you in the right way.

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 1>I need to go figure that out. There's a high

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 1>chance when you come back in three months say I

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:50.279
<v Speaker 1>was wrong, I love you, He'll say fuck off. There

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:52.799
<v Speaker 1>is a big chance if someone says I'm not sure

0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:54.359
<v Speaker 1>about you and then they say, oh I was wrong,

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:56.239
<v Speaker 1>I am, they're gonna be like, well, you weren't sure

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:59.399
<v Speaker 1>three months ago, but you don't even know. If you're

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:01.239
<v Speaker 1>not sure, you don't even know what that is. So

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:03.319
<v Speaker 1>I think it's okay to not go and put this

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:06.279
<v Speaker 1>doubt in their head. If it's not really deep inside you,

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it is that you just want this one little

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 1>experience on your own, and then you realize that they

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 1>are absolutely your person and that you could change you

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 1>So I think it's a big call to put that

0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:19.799
<v Speaker 1>doubt in their mind now because they might not want

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:22.440
<v Speaker 1>you back after that, which is it's a risk totally.

0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:24.840
<v Speaker 2>I guess the thing is, though, that doubt's already going

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:27.760
<v Speaker 2>to be there, because if you have already said let's

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:30.959
<v Speaker 2>go travel together, they've already gotten excited about this trip

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:33.400
<v Speaker 2>that you're going to do as a couple. They're already

0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:35.759
<v Speaker 2>making arrangements to be able to go and leave and

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:39.880
<v Speaker 2>take a year together. If you turn around and say, now, actually,

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:41.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do X amount of time on my

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:44.920
<v Speaker 2>own without you, that doubt's already there, that has already

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:46.080
<v Speaker 2>been cemented in that person.

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:47.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't agree with that. We're not going to agree

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 1>on that one, because I think it's okay as a

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 1>couple to be like, hey, I changed my mind, I

0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:52.560
<v Speaker 1>want to go and have a I want to be

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:55.320
<v Speaker 1>on my own for a month. I think I'm.

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Very interested to hear people's opinions on this. I'd be

0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 2>so interested to know whether, if you're on the receiving

0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:03.799
<v Speaker 2>end of that, whether that would destabilize you in that relationship.

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:05.560
<v Speaker 2>I think for me, if Matt was to turn around

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:07.400
<v Speaker 2>and say I need to go away and have a

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:10.920
<v Speaker 2>holiday independent of you. That would really rock my belief

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 2>in us as a couple. That he and I don't

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:15.080
<v Speaker 2>mean just like a holiday like go away for a weekend.

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean if we'd plan to do a Europe trip

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 2>for a year and he was like, actually, I need

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:20.319
<v Speaker 2>to go and do it on my own. I think

0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 2>for me it would kill me.

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:24.239
<v Speaker 1>But you're married with two kids and thirty seven. She's

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:26.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty six, maybe together for two years, like she's figuring

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 1>out who she is and what she wants. So I

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 1>don't think we ever really know who we are and

0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:32.360
<v Speaker 1>what we want. And she's still in a mid twenties.

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 1>So maybe I'm different. I'm a very independent person and

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I have made a decision a long time ago that

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<v Speaker 1>I won't ever put my life on hold when I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do something for someone else, I will find

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:48.160
<v Speaker 1>a way around it. Whether that's an open conversation, if

0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:51.240
<v Speaker 1>you have to think to yourself, not you, Laura, this girl.

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:54.560
<v Speaker 1>If you don't do this and you never have an

0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:57.360
<v Speaker 1>experience overseas on your own, will you be okay with that?

0:37:57.480 --> 0:37:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Is this something you want to tick off your bucket

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<v Speaker 1>list of life? Is it something you know deep down it,

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 1>you will always regret if you don't do it. These

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 1>are questions to ask yourself. But for me, maybe I'm different.

0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm because I'm a bit of a loan soldier.

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm looking at it from a different lens. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you have an open conversation. If my

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 1>partner said to me, came to me and said I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do a month or two on my own,

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 1>would I be upset? Yes, absolutely would I understand probably

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:22.480
<v Speaker 1>if we had a conversation and they explained it. If

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 1>they said I just want to go, I've never been

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:26.600
<v Speaker 1>on my own before, I could go for it. I mean,

0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:30.719
<v Speaker 1>but I believe, and again I might be different. I

0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 1>don't believe in relationships where couples do everything together. I

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:38.839
<v Speaker 1>thoroughly believe for a successful, healthy relationship to thrive for

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<v Speaker 1>the next forty years that you need to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to do things on your own. You need to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to go and have a girls trip. He needs

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:45.440
<v Speaker 1>to be able to go have a boys trip. You

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<v Speaker 1>have your own interests. I don't think you have to

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<v Speaker 1>live in each other's pocket. So maybe I am just

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:51.279
<v Speaker 1>looking at it from a different lens because I know

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<v Speaker 1>there are couples that would never ever want to do

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:53.879
<v Speaker 1>anything without each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I think we're going to see this differently, and

0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:57.920
<v Speaker 2>it's not often that we it's not often that we

0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:01.360
<v Speaker 2>answer questions and like don't get to a mutually exactly

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:03.719
<v Speaker 2>the same point. It's actually never I do want to

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<v Speaker 2>say though, of course I agree with you when you

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<v Speaker 2>say that you think that couples should be independent of

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<v Speaker 2>each other and do things independently of each other. Nobody

0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 2>is disagreeing with that, Like I one percent think is

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<v Speaker 2>so important to a healthy long term relationship. We're probably

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:18.440
<v Speaker 2>never going to get to the same place. But for me,

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<v Speaker 2>I know that that would make me feel very, very insecure,

0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:24.360
<v Speaker 2>and I think I would want the honesty. I just

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:26.960
<v Speaker 2>don't think that you are like because I see it

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<v Speaker 2>very much as being selfish in that you're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out what you want while you keep someone waiting,

0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 2>And that's what I don't like about it.

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:37.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we thoroughly disagree, Yeah we do. It is so fun.

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:38.759
<v Speaker 1>This happened like once a year that.

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<v Speaker 3>We actually it's up to you. I do want you more,

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<v Speaker 3>all right. Question number three.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, this hasn't been written in by anyone. This is

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<v Speaker 2>not an ask gun cut from a listener. This is

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<v Speaker 2>my own little moral pickle.

0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 1>My little task gun cut, my little home.

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Pickle with Mattie Jay that I we had a fight

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<v Speaker 2>the other day. Actually wasn't a fight. We had a tiff,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to get your opinion on this. So

0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 2>matt every night we get into bed and he has

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<v Speaker 2>like a bit of a wind down routine. He'll sit

0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 2>on TikTok for a while, he might read a news article.

0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:16.400
<v Speaker 2>He'll be doing stuff while he's in bed. This is

0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:19.160
<v Speaker 2>post shower, teeth rushing whatever. He's just in bed, winding

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 2>down to go to sleep. I, however, have a very

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 2>busy workday, and whenever I have decided because I also

0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 2>I get to bed, I also scroll, I do whatever

0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:29.279
<v Speaker 2>it is that I'm doing my phone. But then it's

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:31.520
<v Speaker 2>always me who's the one that makes the decision it's

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:33.920
<v Speaker 2>time to go to sleep now. So I will say

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:35.879
<v Speaker 2>it's time to go to sleep, now, turn my phone off,

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:37.960
<v Speaker 2>put it down, you know, roll over, turn the light off,

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:40.359
<v Speaker 2>the lip. He has an issue with the fact that

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:42.879
<v Speaker 2>I am the drill sergeant of going to sleep time

0:40:43.160 --> 0:40:45.800
<v Speaker 2>and that I don't allow him the opportunity to finish

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:47.920
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is that he was doing. So, whether it

0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:50.160
<v Speaker 2>was that he needs to read the last chapter of

0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 2>a book or the last bit of an article, or

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:54.640
<v Speaker 2>he wants to watch three more things on TikTok. He

0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:56.239
<v Speaker 2>has an issue with the fact that as soon as

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I've made that decision that it's time to sleep, that

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:02.440
<v Speaker 2>he must sleep. Also, who's in the wrong, because it's him.

0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 3>How am I in the wrong?

0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Because let me tell you why. When you first, when

0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:10.480
<v Speaker 1>we discussed this earlier, I thought it was more like

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, when we go to bed, it's bedtime. So

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I thought you'd all you're scrolling in the lound room.

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Then you're like, it's bedtime, you go into the room,

0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 1>you go to sleep, but you are both doing your

0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:23.000
<v Speaker 1>wine down routine. You're both scrolling. It's not up to

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:25.399
<v Speaker 1>you to be like, I've decided it's time, so you

0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 1>end it. I think what it needs to be is

0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:29.439
<v Speaker 1>all right, let's do another ten minutes so it gives

0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:31.520
<v Speaker 1>time people time to do a wrapper. But I think

0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 1>you can't.

0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:34.279
<v Speaker 2>It's not a toddler. I don't need to say two

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:35.520
<v Speaker 2>more minutes of screen time.

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:38.359
<v Speaker 1>Okay, how would you feel Let's reverse it? How would

0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:40.360
<v Speaker 1>you feel if you were in the middle of doing something,

0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Matt rolled over and said I'm done, took your phone

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:44.839
<v Speaker 1>and put it down, and you're like, babe, i'm doing

0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 1>something you It would not fly on reverse. So I

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:49.239
<v Speaker 1>think it needs to be like a meet halfway. I

0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 1>would get up and go and sit in the lounge room,

0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:52.920
<v Speaker 1>which is scrolling.

0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:53.319
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:55.279
<v Speaker 2>The reason why I have such strong feelings about this

0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 2>is because the bed is specifically for sleeping. So if

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 2>one person has made the decision that it is time

0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:05.320
<v Speaker 2>for them to sleep, that's what that gets priority.

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:05.959
<v Speaker 3>Every time.

0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:09.040
<v Speaker 1>I think ifrom the middle of the day and someone's like, hey,

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:11.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to use this space to sleep, now, that's

0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:14.520
<v Speaker 1>the function of that space. But his problem, I think

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:17.879
<v Speaker 1>his problem is the fact that you're just saying I'm

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:18.600
<v Speaker 1>the decision maker.

0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:19.319
<v Speaker 3>I think this is what.

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting here. Yes, I think you're not the decision maker.

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 1>You're a couple, So I think you need to be like,

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:26.040
<v Speaker 1>let's wrap it up in ten minutes, not I've decided

0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:28.000
<v Speaker 1>this so you have to do it right this second.

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:29.319
<v Speaker 1>That's what I think his problem is.

0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:31.839
<v Speaker 2>It's not seven thirty, it's like eleven o'clock at night

0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:33.800
<v Speaker 2>when I'm like, it's time for sleep now.

0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:37.320
<v Speaker 1>But it's okay for you to be scrolling until you're already.

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 1>So I think that's where his problem is. So I

0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:40.880
<v Speaker 1>think maybe you guys need to do it like a

0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:43.120
<v Speaker 1>ten minute signal where you're like, hey, let's finish what

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 1>we're doing, so he doesn't feel like you're just telling

0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:46.359
<v Speaker 1>him that's been fair.

0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:47.719
<v Speaker 3>Okay. I have one more thing.

0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:50.600
<v Speaker 2>The issue I have though, is I'm always the first

0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:52.600
<v Speaker 2>person to say I'm going to bed, so I get

0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:55.720
<v Speaker 2>into bed, but then he comes in and has his shower,

0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:57.799
<v Speaker 2>and Dick's around in the bathroom for a.

0:42:57.760 --> 0:42:59.520
<v Speaker 3>While, so I'm already waiting.

0:42:59.840 --> 0:43:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I have a question, Yes, does he use headphones? No?

0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 4>Okay, that I can understand as a bit of a

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:11.160
<v Speaker 4>that's annoying, But also.

0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:13.160
<v Speaker 2>It wouldn't even matter if you had headphones on. I

0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:14.120
<v Speaker 2>can't stand the light.

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:18.440
<v Speaker 4>It's the okay, Now.

0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:21.279
<v Speaker 1>He can roll over put his headphones in doing the light.

0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:23.879
<v Speaker 1>I think his problem is with the authority. I don't

0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:26.200
<v Speaker 1>think it's a fact. I think it's the now or never.

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:27.799
<v Speaker 4>Like I don't know if I agree, because I'm a

0:43:27.800 --> 0:43:30.319
<v Speaker 4>really troubled sleeper. Like, I've had problems sleeping for years

0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 4>and years and years, and this dates back to so

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 4>long ago, and I remember when I lived with my boyfriend,

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:38.600
<v Speaker 4>and I often have to listen to things to.

0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:39.160
<v Speaker 3>Go to sleep.

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 4>I have to, like I seem to have a very

0:43:42.760 --> 0:43:45.439
<v Speaker 4>hyperactive mind. And I know everyone's like you should sit

0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:48.520
<v Speaker 4>there and count sheep. But if someone laying next to

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:50.799
<v Speaker 4>me was like, yo, you can't have any sound, you

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:52.799
<v Speaker 4>can't have any light, I'd be like, cool, that means

0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:54.720
<v Speaker 4>I'm literally not getting to sleep tonight.

0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:58.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, then you can sleep on the couch, although sometimes

0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:00.239
<v Speaker 2>I do go to sleep with my omnilux male on.

0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:03.319
<v Speaker 3>Matt's like, you're kidding me on, yeah, Like I put

0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:03.640
<v Speaker 3>it on.

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:06.279
<v Speaker 1>That light is blind. I put it on, and Matt's like,

0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:08.000
<v Speaker 1>it's like we're in an infrared sauna.

0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:09.960
<v Speaker 3>And I'm just like laying there with this. Oh no,

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:11.920
<v Speaker 3>you don't know. Is he getting like the off cut.

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:15.440
<v Speaker 4>Health benefits On one side, he's youthful, but only on

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:16.520
<v Speaker 4>his left hand.

0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:18.279
<v Speaker 1>You're supposed to wear every ten minutes you fall asleep

0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:19.800
<v Speaker 1>with like twelve hours you're glowing.

0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:26.399
<v Speaker 4>I think if he brings headphones, it's play on, play on.

0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:29.000
<v Speaker 4>I can understand if you're trying to get to sleep

0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:31.320
<v Speaker 4>and someone's watching a TikTok video, especially if they're laughing

0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:32.239
<v Speaker 4>and carrying on.

0:44:32.800 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 3>That I can understand is like an irk. Known't quite fair.

0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:38.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't even care that I'm outnumbered. The bed is

0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:40.840
<v Speaker 2>for sleeping. The person who wants to sleep is the

0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:41.800
<v Speaker 2>winner of that argument.

0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I also know, Okay, I'm gonna throw this to my

0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:46.279
<v Speaker 1>sister for a second. So my sister Sherry and her

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 1>husband Jay, So Jay works. Jay's from the UK and

0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 1>he still works on UK time, so he does a

0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:55.760
<v Speaker 1>lot of night work. Bitch, he will often say to Sherry.

0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:57.319
<v Speaker 1>Because he usually is in a loundroom so he doesn't

0:44:57.320 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 1>wake up, he'll often say like, can I work him

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:03.240
<v Speaker 1>better night? Because he wants to just feel like he's

0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:06.040
<v Speaker 1>he's with her, like be next to her still because

0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:08.320
<v Speaker 1>he's otherwise he's never sees that. And she's like, of course,

0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:10.840
<v Speaker 1>he puts his headphones in, she puts an eyemask on,

0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:12.440
<v Speaker 1>and he just works in bed next to her, and

0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 1>it's fine.

0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:14.799
<v Speaker 3>That's great for them, it doesn't work for me.

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:18.160
<v Speaker 1>I love you, thank you, and I'll always have your back.

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:20.800
<v Speaker 1>If he don't tell him I'm on his side. He listen,

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:23.520
<v Speaker 1>but I sort of am like, I understand, and I

0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:25.160
<v Speaker 1>think there is an easy way for you guys to

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:27.320
<v Speaker 1>meet half Wait, you put an eye mask on, Laura.

0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:31.440
<v Speaker 1>You're happy to wear your omnilux, which is like you've

0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:34.120
<v Speaker 1>ever seen put an eye mask on. He can put

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:36.200
<v Speaker 1>his headphones in, he can roll over and just go

0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:38.759
<v Speaker 1>to sleep, like he's not going to do it all night.

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I think his problem is you being like, look, we're

0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:43.799
<v Speaker 1>not in coots with.

0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:47.399
<v Speaker 4>But if we were to be in cootes with one

0:45:47.400 --> 0:45:50.080
<v Speaker 4>of you right now, I think we're pretty strongly falling

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:51.440
<v Speaker 4>on his side.

0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:53.359
<v Speaker 3>Like, hey, guys, that's enough from us today.

0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:55.919
<v Speaker 1>It's been a great episode to hear at Aska and cut.

0:45:55.760 --> 0:45:58.800
<v Speaker 3>I think Laura wants to do you all know the drill.

0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:03.920
<v Speaker 4>Also, Omniluck sponsored the podcast can already you got so

0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:04.680
<v Speaker 4>many shout up.

0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:06.919
<v Speaker 1>That's why they don't sponsor, because they know we're gonna

0:46:06.920 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 1>talk about it anymore. Just saying the brand we need

0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:14.359
<v Speaker 1>to just be like that bright face mask. Tell your mum,

0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 1>to you dad, tell you dog, tell your friends, put

0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:17.960
<v Speaker 1>the plug in charge your in and told you to night,

0:46:19.400 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 1>go to sleep.