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Speaker 1: I would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the

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Speaker 1: This is Rise and Conquer, the podcast where we strive

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson. Join me as we explore parenthood, business, manifestation,

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Speaker 1: Are you ready, Ali's Welcome to the Rise and Conquer Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 3: Are you so excited to be here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very excited.

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Speaker 4: I haven't been to the Gold Ghost yet this year,

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Speaker 4: so also excuse to come up and do it in person.

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Speaker 2: So thanks having me.

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Speaker 1: No, thank you so much for coming in person. I

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Speaker 1: am so excited because you have been part of the

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Speaker 1: community for a very long time. We actually met when

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Speaker 1: we went on the Beautiful Rise retreat together and honestly,

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Speaker 1: I fell in love with your personality. Like even before

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Speaker 1: we were talking off air, I was like, how's Roy,

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Speaker 1: And do you want to tell the R and C

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Speaker 4: So my name's Elise and I'm from South Australia and

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Speaker 4: I have a business called Live and Outdoor Adventures, which

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Speaker 1: That's so beautiful and incredible and so unique. I feel

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Speaker 1: like when you told me, I was like, I, first

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Speaker 1: the ap. So and so, like the women coming on

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Speaker 4: I think often a lot of my customers are either

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Speaker 4: maybe they've just had a divorce or they've left work

436
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 4: and they've something got all this space and time they're thinking, well,

437
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 4: what actually do I love when I'm not with my kids?

438
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 4: What are my passions on my hobbies or my interests.

439
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 4: Who am I exactly outside of yeah, who am I

440
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 4: in relation to my husband? Or who am I in

441
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 4: relation to my kids? Who are you in relation to yourself?

442
00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 4: And typically, when they finally come and experience one of

443
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 4: these retreats or adventures, because some of them it's even

444
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,479
Speaker 4: a microadventure, a two hour powder boarding lesson can still

445
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 4: show a huge amount of growth in a woman because

446
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 4: she's put down her guard, She's felt safe and seen

447
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 4: and supported. She's got out of her comfort zone, and

448
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 4: I've given her some helpful, encouraging, kind tips to get

449
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 4: her standing up. And then she leaves feeling empowered, She

450
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 4: feels capable, she feels confident, She feels that she can

451
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,239
Speaker 4: trust strangers because at the start of the session as

452
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 4: a stranger, and also, I hope believes in the capabilities

453
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 4: of women too, because she wasn't relying on her husband

454
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 4: to create the experience. She sees a female instructor as

455
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,360
Speaker 4: a safe space and knows that even if she falls off,

456
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 4: if I can help rescue her back on the board,

457
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 4: she feels safe and supported by another woman. And on

458
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 4: the weekend, we did have a capsized kayak and being

459
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 4: able to successfully rescue them and get them both back

460
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 4: in their boat. They were so surprised, and I was like,

461
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 4: course I can rescue. I'm a kayaking instructor. But that also,

462
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 4: I hope helps change the perceptions and in society at

463
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 4: large of what women are capable of and what we

464
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 4: can do. And that's not to diminish everything that men

465
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 4: bring to society and everything that men do for us

466
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 4: as women as well. And I wouldn't be in business

467
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,199
Speaker 4: without the support and mentorship from some amazing man in

468
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 4: my life. But to show women that they can do

469
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 4: it is just so powerful.

470
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Speaker 1: That's incredible, and I think that is that's quite game changing,

471
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Speaker 1: especially for when a woman when she has her own back,

472
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Speaker 1: you know, Like I feel like me and Tim went

473
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: through a very you know, it's coming up thirteen years

474
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 1: together and literally next week, and we went through an

475
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: interesting time even last year, and it was really about

476
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 1: again I had to go through this process of like, well,

477
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: who am I without Tim? Not that we were separated

478
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: or anything, but like who am I without him? Who

479
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: am I not being a mom? Who am I not

480
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 1: in business? And I really had to kind of like

481
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: build that self concept and have this really beautiful relationship

482
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: with myself where he compliments me and he empowers me,

483
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: and you know, being a mum empowers me.

484
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Speaker 3: But it's like that's not the end all be all,

485
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 3: it's just it's.

486
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Speaker 1: Me first and having my own back, and so I

487
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: think that's like that's really important.

488
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 4: Definitely, and then it just makes the relationship so much

489
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 4: stronger when you have that mutual respect and mutual adoration,

490
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 4: and there's the cohabitating and the convenience of being able

491
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 4: to assist one another and support one another, but it's

492
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 4: not codependent to the point that you can't live without them.

493
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 4: You've got your own life and your own passions and

494
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 4: your own hobbies and skills, and then when you come together,

495
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 4: it just elevates both of you and you can support

496
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 4: and make everything easier. And yeah, I feel that that's

497
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 4: been the same in my relationship because we're planning to

498
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 4: move on too. My partner's sailboat. It's a huge adventure.

499
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 4: It's way out of my comfort zone. So I'm going

500
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 4: to have to practice what I preach to my clients

501
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 4: in you know, getting out of your comfort zone and

502
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 4: trying new outdoor experiences and backing yourself, and I really

503
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,239
Speaker 4: believe that all of my other experiences outdoors are going

504
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 4: to assist that. But just knowing that I'm not going

505
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 4: to be solely dependent on Roy to sail the boat,

506
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 4: I'm going to learn so that I can feel confident

507
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 4: that should anything happen, I've got that. And then having

508
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,239
Speaker 4: that mutual trust and the way that we can then

509
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 4: lean on each other makes her so much stronger together too.

510
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: I love that, And you know what, I have such

511
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: a good role model for that. My mum is like,

512
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 1: you know, she was apprehensive too, because my dad wanted

513
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: to buy a boat live in the boat.

514
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 3: They retired when they were fifty, and.

515
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Speaker 1: She was like, I don't want to live in a boat,

516
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: Like I don't want to do this.

517
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Speaker 3: And then they did it.

518
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Speaker 1: And I have seen her like she's so adventurous. She

519
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: knows how to sail the boat. She'll be up you

520
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: know the mask, like pulling all the ropes. I don't

521
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: know what they do, but she knows everything. She knows

522
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: how to do it. She's so capable. She's always the

523
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: one to jump in first and go snorkeling. They have

524
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: like this fun little machine that's like.

525
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 3: A motor in the water.

526
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: Yeah that like they can be underwater motorized like a

527
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: handheld thing, they go snorkeling, and she has just absolutely

528
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: like she's always kind of been like that growing up,

529
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: always been so capable. But I've loved to see her

530
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: thriving on the boat and yeah she does it, like

531
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: she gets in and she does it, and yeah, she's

532
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: such a great role model for me for that, because

533
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: it's so true, like we shouldn't just be sun tanning

534
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: on the side. We can get in, we can have

535
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: fun and you know, of course we can do both.

536
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: But I think that's such an incredible message.

537
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, the sunsetting on the side reminds me of when

538
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 4: I was growing up. We had family in Crescent Head

539
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 4: and we'd travel to the East Coast from South Australia

540
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 4: to visit my family. And I can distinctly remember being

541
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 4: fourteen years old and looking out into the surf brain

542
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 4: and only seeing men, and.

543
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 2: I was already a bit nervous.

544
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 4: I was self conscious of my body, being an adolescent girl,

545
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 4: and I thought, well, I can't actually see any girls

546
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 4: out there. Maybe it's a heavy break, maybe girls don't

547
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 4: surf here, Like I'm not meant to be here anyway,

548
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 4: and so I was able to talk myself out of

549
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 4: getting in. And then on the flip side of that,

550
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 4: just two weeks ago running a women's surf camp and

551
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 4: just looking out and seeing an all female lineup, And

552
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 4: when I ran a surf camp last year, that was

553
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 4: the first time I'd seen a whole surf break where

554
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 4: it's just women, and I was like, this is really

555
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 4: powerful and I've helped create that. So yeah, I think

556
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 4: that and then the more that young girls are then

557
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 4: seeing other women out in the surf like I saw

558
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 4: this morning, that helps them see that their life can

559
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 4: be so much more than traditional gender roles, and their

560
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 4: life can be so much more than And of course

561
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 4: they can still ten on the beach and they can

562
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 4: still want to have massages in their downtime.

563
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 2: But absolutely to not feel boxed into a.

564
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 4: Like there are other opportunities. And I really believe that,

565
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 4: you know, we're animals. We've evolved and we now spend

566
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 4: a lot of our time in buildings in artificial light,

567
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 4: but we're meant to be in nature, and so just

568
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 4: it's that it's not really teaching, it's just that reminding

569
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 4: people that that's still within them. That of course, they

570
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 4: feel better when they're outdoors in fresh air, in sunlight,

571
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 4: jumping into the ocean, because that's we're designed to be outdoors.

572
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 4: And so it's just that remembering that often comes through

573
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 4: with clients as well. And so that's so beautiful that

574
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 4: your mum is remembering and she's found all that in

575
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 4: her retirement.

576
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Speaker 2: That's amazing.

577
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: I know, it is amazing, and I love where things

578
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: are going with that because that's like, you know, with

579
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: my daughter Ivy, that's something I'm really going to encourage her, like, yeah,

580
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: play sport, like go and do the adventuress stuff. And

581
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: she I can really see it, like she wants to

582
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: do everything that I'd wants to do and what I

583
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: want to do, Like she's so adventurous.

584
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Speaker 3: But at the same time she wants to come put

585
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 3: make up on with Mum when she's getting ready.

586
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: So I think, like we can be whoever we want

587
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: to be and really instilling that in everyone and being like, well,

588
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: go figure out who you.

589
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: Want to be.

590
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Speaker 1: Let's finish off the potty with some rapid fire questions.

591
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Speaker 3: What is your go to mantra?

592
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 4: Well, of course at the top of my mind is

593
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 4: life happens for me, and that couldn't have mine anytime.

594
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 4: I have to keep reminding myself of that and no

595
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 4: one is you, and that is your power. And it

596
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 4: sounds so cliche, but it really does help me remember

597
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 4: that the outdoor adventure space might look a certain way typically,

598
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 4: but my space can be different. So no one else

599
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 4: in my space might be running kayaking tools that look

600
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 4: like mine, where you can do yoga and meditation at

601
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 4: the experience and have berries on your pancake because it's

602
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 4: a bit different to maybe what you typically think of

603
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 4: and see. But remembering that that's my strength and not

604
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 4: thinking that you might put people off. If my career

605
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 4: experiences around what I enjoy, that's going to attract the

606
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 4: right people, know what you mean?

607
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Speaker 2: That's my power.

608
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Speaker 3: I love that so much. What's a current book you're reading?

609
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 4: I just got your land. Well I've only just starting.

610
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 4: Is it There to Lead by Brene Brown?

611
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: And I haven't read it.

612
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it's not in you. I've heard a

613
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: lot of her quotes before.

614
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 4: But that book was given to me by my sea

615
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 4: kayaking mentor, Malcolm Hamilton, who was training up a group

616
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 4: of US women to paddle across baths straight over a

617
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 4: decade ago.

618
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: Wow.

619
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Speaker 2: So I really trust.

620
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,239
Speaker 4: Him and he saw a lot in me, a lot

621
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 4: of potentially me back then, and now I have a

622
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 4: career as a kayaking instructor thanks to him. So the

623
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 4: fact that he lent that book to me, I was like,

624
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 4: all right, I trust him.

625
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: I better read this.

626
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 4: So I've only just started, but the first chapter already

627
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 4: about you know, feeling nervous and excited at the same time,

628
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 4: feeling like doubt and confidence at the same time, just

629
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 4: being able to hold that duality that helping me love that.

630
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: I do love that book. And last question, what are

631
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: you currently calling in manifesting?

632
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 4: So I'm manifesting my dream lifestyle, which looks like selling

633
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 4: out experiences for women into Australia from spring through to

634
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 4: autumn and then having winters off to just sail the boat.

635
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 4: And a lot of people, you know, say that you

636
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 4: can't do that. You have to work full time to

637
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 4: afford that lifestyle. Boats, you're expensive, and I hear lots

638
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 4: of naysayers, but I'm really just leaning into that that

639
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 4: can happen for us, and that with the right tours

640
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 4: and the right energy that I will be able to

641
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 4: make that lifestyle work for us, and I'm really excited

642
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 4: for Roy to hopefully come and work in the business too,

643
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 4: and to just create more expensive experiences on the Flurio,

644
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 4: combining wellness, nature, aboriginal culture, great food, and then having

645
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 4: winters off, because why not.

646
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Speaker 1: I love that so much, because what's the point of

647
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: life otherwise. Yeah, oh my gosh, that is so incredible.

648
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: And I see that like it's already happened. It's done.

649
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's done, It's done.

650
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my gosh, Alice, it has been such a

651
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: pleasure to have you on the podcast.

652
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.

653
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: making the trip and being a longtime community member. And

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Speaker 1: like I said, the first time I met you, I

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Speaker 1: could just like tell that you were so special and

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Speaker 1: you had such beautiful energy. So it's so it's been

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Speaker 1: just amazing to have you here and have you talk

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Speaker 1: about what you love. And you can feel the energy

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Speaker 1: and the purpose and the passion in when you're talking

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Speaker 1: about your business, when you're talking about this, so I

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Speaker 1: just know it's going to be better than you could

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Speaker 1: have imagined.

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Speaker 2: No doubt.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me, and that's definitely mutual. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I've been listening to the podcast for so many years

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Speaker 4: now and seeing your evolution has just constantly been an expander.

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Speaker 2: For me and my business. So thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Elise, and of guys, I will put all

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Speaker 1: the links in the show notes. Check out Alise, check

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Speaker 1: out her adventures, and especially if you're in South Australia

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Speaker 1: and go do something that is going to like wow.

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Speaker 3: You create that experience where you're like.

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Speaker 1: I am capable, I have got my own back, I

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Speaker 1: love my own energy. I love you know this time

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Speaker 1: by myself because it really does change you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very important. We all need it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to this episode of

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Speaker 1: the Rise and Conquer podcast. If you enjoyed it and

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Speaker 1: want more, connect with us via Instagram or continue the

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Speaker 1: conversation on our beautiful Facebook community page. All the details

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Speaker 1: are in the show notes, and I'd love to hear

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Speaker 1: more about your journey.

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Speaker 3: Also, we're an independent podcast with a small but mighty team,

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Speaker 3: so we really do appreciate your support.

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Speaker 1: If you have a spare moment, please click the follow

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Speaker 1: or subscribe button to the podcast, and if you leave

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