1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: This is outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate and 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: all things reality TV, influencers, entertainment, and issues facing women. 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: That is so fetch thank you. 7 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: I've got to share with everyone because Amy has literally 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: just lean in front of me to press record on 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: the podcasting equipment, and I was taken aback about how 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: dry your hands are? What is going on? It's all 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: the hand sanitizer I've been using, and this is actually 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: my hands looking a little bit better. Wow. I wouldn't 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: have liked to see them looking bad. So you what 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: are your hands like yours? I have renownedly very dry skin, 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: so my hands are very scratchy. I've got very ugly 16 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: looking hands. I have to decide. But I do remember 17 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: our hairdresser, Mary Anne. She actually told me as a 18 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: twelve year old that I should be a hand model, 19 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: and I've always really taken that with me. Okay, are 20 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: your hands looking good? Just because you've been moisturizing them 21 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: so you can look at your ring. Well, that's the thing. 22 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: Sophy's always saying, how soft my skin is, and it's 23 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: just simply because I moisturize and my hands were getting 24 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: a little bit dry. And my tip is I got 25 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: a big bottle of moisturizer and I keep it in 26 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: my car and put it on when I'm at the 27 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: traffic light. Wow, what earth shattering advice there. Just moving 28 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: on to something a little bit more exciting, and we're 29 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: going to be checking out your prospective wedding venue this week. 30 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 31 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: So Rees and I went down to Maximilian last weekend 32 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: and we kind of scoped it out. It's sort of 33 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: on top of my list of venues, and I don't know, 34 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: everyone's saying, oh, you should go to more than one venue, 35 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: but we kind of really like it. And I'm like, well, 36 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: if I go and look at other venues, is that 37 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: just going to confuse me. I think you've got to 38 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: go and check out some more, because although you like 39 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: this one, you don't know what's out there if you 40 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: don't have a look. Well, I've had a look online 41 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: and I'm sorry, but the price seems very good compared 42 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: to the other venue. So it is also a budgeting thing. 43 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: It's funny because you are floating the idea of having 44 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: your wedding in January because apparently that's a bit more 45 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: of an affordable time. I'm sitting here selfishly as the 46 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: bride'smaid or potential bridesmaid because you haven't asked me yet, 47 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: and thinking, am I going to be sweating my face 48 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 1: off during this ceremony? Can I just add its January 49 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, not any time. There's plenty of time 50 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: for me to ask you to be my bride'smaid. I 51 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: literally am trying to come up. I'm stressing. I'm trying 52 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: to come up with a way to ask my bridesmaids 53 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: to what they say, propose to my bridesmaids, And I'm 54 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: trying to think of a really cool way that isn't 55 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: ridiculously expensive, because yes, I could be buying. My thought 56 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: was to buy those really cool pajamas that are like 57 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: personalized that you can wear on the day. But then 58 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: I wait, so let me get this straight. You now 59 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: have to ask people and propose to them in a 60 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: way for them to be your bridesmaids. Yes, this is 61 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: a lot of stress on me. I've been proposed to 62 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: you now apparently I have to propose to the bridesmaid. 63 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: But I think, is this something that's done all the time. Yeah, well, 64 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: even the guys get in on it. So Brandon is 65 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: a groomsman in his friend's wedding and they had this 66 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: big dinner party to ask people, and they had this 67 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: beautifully decorated table and on each seat there was a 68 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: little box and when they open ends it up, there 69 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: was like a personalized letter. And for the guys they 70 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: got a golfing like myt that was personalized. Those boxes 71 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: are so bloody expensive because of these boxes that you 72 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: have like the person's name on it and they open 73 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: it up and it's like some little will you be 74 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: my bridesmaid? The boxes alone cost like twenty bucks. Will 75 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: tell us in our Facebook community, have you proposed to 76 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: your bridesmaids in a really creative way? And if you've 77 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: got any ideas for me? I mean, I know Amy 78 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: and Sophie are going to see the post in there, 79 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: but you know there's other people that I might be 80 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: inviting to be my bridesmaids too. They might be listening 81 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: to this podcast. 82 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 4: Today we are doing a replying to hater comments over it. 83 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: You sound like a fat Palican from Nemo. That's creative. 84 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: I'm really creative. 85 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm impressed. 86 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: I need to make a YouTube channel. 87 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: You do. Before we get into the main topic, we 88 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: wanted to issue a trigger warning. We will be discussing 89 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: issues surrounding domestic violence. If you don't want to listen, 90 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: please skip forward. The time code will be in the 91 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: show notes. On Thursday, Vanessa Sierra shared a shocking video 92 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: of her boyfriend, Australian tennis player Bannard Tomic, to Instagram. 93 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: In the video, Tomic appears to be destroying her laptop, 94 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: breaking it over his knee. For those who haven't seen it, 95 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: will throw it to the audio. Now, ahra, mamma, when Aram, 96 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: when I lost Mama? 97 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 4: There we go. 98 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: Nice camera. This video is clearly very disturbing and shocked 99 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,679 Speaker 1: a lot of people. And I think what I found 100 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: most worrisome is the fact that it appears that Tomic 101 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: lunges towards Vanessa and then the recording stops, and it's 102 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: quite clear that when Tomic realizes he's being filmed, he's 103 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: visibly worried. Oh he definitely looks panicked. I mean, in 104 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: this sort of social media world that we all live 105 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: in a video like that, it can destroy people's reputations. 106 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: Exactly right. So Vanessa, as well as sharing this view 107 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: video of the incident, she also shared a video of 108 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: the smashed up parts of her laptop, phone, and what 109 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: looked like a tablet. So The video was accompanied by 110 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: texts that read, sixteen thousand dollars worth of damage. Currently 111 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: can't work and half a million crypto is locked. I'll 112 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: give one hundred dollars for the first person who can 113 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: guess what happened. The video was captioned also and it 114 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: said don't mess with the tennis player's ego. To replace 115 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: the sixteen thousand dollars worth of damage from his little tantrum, 116 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: I'm leaking a private tape on my only fans. Not sorry. 117 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: It's pretty crazy because Bernard Tomic has literally destroyed her livelihood. 118 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: She can't she says she can't work, and it's true 119 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: because all of her work that she does is online. 120 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: Her phone is smashed, her computers a smash that's been 121 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: a blatant attempt to stop her from doing her job 122 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: well or asking for help. I mean, with her phone smash, 123 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: she can't contact anyone. And I suppose that was a 124 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: lot of what people were fearing when they saw this video, 125 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: and Vanessa commented under the photo for anyone asking, I 126 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: am okay. I gave myself time to take care of 127 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: my mental health before posting anything. The material items are replaceable. 128 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: She also went on to comment that, just to clarify, 129 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 1: he didn't and never has laid hands on me. She 130 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: also went on to share, I was upset with him 131 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: for not checking on me when I was hospitalized. Argument 132 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: escalated to him ruining my livelihood. Before we get too 133 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: far into the topic, I feel like we need to 134 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: go into who exactly is Vanessa Sierra Kate? Can you 135 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: explain for those who might not know well. Vanessa Sierra 136 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: is well known for being on Love Island, Australia, and 137 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: she has gone on to have a very successful career 138 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: on Only Fans. So, prior to being on Love Island, 139 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: she was actually dating Math's contestant Jessica Power's brother Race Power. 140 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: So sadly the relationship ended when Vanessa shared a really 141 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: shocking photo of herself where it appeared she had a 142 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: black eye. So, Vanessa says Reese allegedly assaulted her at 143 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: a fitness camp in Thailand. She wrote on Instagram seven 144 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: days of isolation and I'm back to myself again. Those 145 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: closest to me already know what happened. This was taken 146 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: the day I left, and it does not even hint 147 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: to the extent of what I went through. Domestic violence 148 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: isn't a fucking joke. So here it is literally a 149 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: taste of your own medicine. On a completely separate note, 150 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: Ree's power, how is Thailand? Reese went on to deny 151 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: the allegations in a lengthy Instagram post. So he wrote, 152 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: there's always two sides to every story, and everyone needs 153 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: to believe that. Everyone's jumped on the bandwagon without even 154 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: hearing my side of the story, which I understand. If 155 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: a girl makes an allegation about a claim, whether it's 156 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: an attractive girl or any girl, everyone's going to jump 157 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: on the bandwagon. And I fully understand that. I can't 158 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: even finish that sentence without being like, what does it 159 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: have to do with the girl's appearance? If someone believes 160 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: someone's claim of domestic violence, Like, it's just so frustrating 161 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: to read that. What I take from this too, is 162 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: it just seems like she there's so many cries for help. 163 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: I mean it's so alarming that again she's having to 164 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: post the bad behavior of one of her partners. I 165 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: feel really sorry for her and I feel really sorry 166 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: for her as well. And it's hard because the way 167 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: that she has put this out to the media, there 168 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: is going to be a lot of victim blaming going on. 169 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: And I really want to make that clear that in 170 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: no way is our discussion blaming her at all, because 171 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: you don't know how you're going to act in a 172 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: situation like this, and I do feel like she is 173 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: crying out for help. Yeah, but what about Bernard Tomic 174 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: Because a lot of us know he is a tennis player, 175 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: but I think it's relevant to talk a little bit 176 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: about his backstory as well. 177 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: Well. 178 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 1: He has really earned himself the title of a tennis brat. 179 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: I feel like that's the way we all think of him. 180 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: So this incident is just the latest in a long 181 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: string of controversies in his very polarizing tennis career. So 182 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: he was labeled Australia's brightest tennis hope. He was actually 183 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: ranked the world's top under fourteens player, and he won 184 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: the Australian Open Juniors in two thousand and eight and 185 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: one of Bernard's first controversies actually involved Leyton Hewitt. So 186 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: Bernard was only sixteen the time, and he famously snubbed 187 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: Layton who offered to have a hit up of tennis 188 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 1: with him. I remember that that did really get him 189 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: off side with a lot of other tennis players as well, 190 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: and that incident, of course caused a huge rift between 191 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: the players. They are still not friendly with one another. 192 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: So he also had his first run in with the 193 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: law on Australia Day in twenty twelve, and I think 194 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,479 Speaker 1: we will all remember that famous Orange V eight BMW 195 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: which he was seen speeding in. So he was fined 196 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: three times for traffic offenses and as a PEA player, 197 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: he wasn't supposed to be driving the BMW alone, but 198 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: he had been given an exemption to use it to 199 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: get to training in Southport. So again the following year 200 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: he was also caught speeding, this time in a yellow 201 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: Ferrari on the Gold Coast and that ended up costing 202 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: him his driver's license. Hasn't there been some alleged punch 203 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: ups involving Bernard as well. Yeah, so a punch up 204 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: allegedly happened in a spa. So it said that he bar. 205 00:09:59,600 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 206 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: So apparently he turned on police officers after they were 207 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: called to a break to break up a fight between 208 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: him and a friend in Surfer's Paradise on the Gold Coast, 209 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: and Bernard reminded the officers of who he was and 210 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: accused them of running a hate campaign against him. And 211 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: it really just gets worse because in twenty twelve he 212 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: was suspended from the Australian Open Davis Cup team with 213 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: Tennis Australia citing his poor efforts and attitude, and later 214 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: he ranted about Tennis Australia in a press conference. So 215 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: it's not even just in his personal life that things 216 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: were imploding, it was also his professional life. What about 217 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: that incident involving Bernard's father, John, because he head budded his 218 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: son's hitting partner in Madrid. It seems to be something 219 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: about these tennis parents, doesn't they? Oh, definitely, well, apparently 220 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: he claims to have head butted the tennis partner as 221 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: self defense. This did not go down well in court, 222 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: so his father was sentenced to eight months in prison 223 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: in a Spanish court. Fortunately he didn't actually have to 224 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: serve the jail time, as the sentence was less than 225 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: two years. Well, that's not the only brush with the 226 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: law of the Tomic family have had. In twenty fifteen, 227 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: Bernard was arrested in Miami on charges of trespassing and 228 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: resisting arrest after a late night party in a ten 229 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a night hotel penthouse. Unfortunately doesn't stop there, 230 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: because in twenty sixteen he had a rather petty outburst 231 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: because he refused to pay a twenty dollars tennis court 232 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: fee at the Brisbane International. I mean, it's safe to 233 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: say he really has not grown up at all or matured. 234 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: What about all those famous pictures of him getting a 235 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: laptances and that Gold Coast nightclub. Yeah, well that's where 236 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: he was famously called atolly by newspaper. That's right. Was 237 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: at school, that's right. Well, going back to this video, 238 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: while it was clearly extremely shocking, I don't think fans 239 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: were surprised that there seemed to be some issues going 240 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: on between these two. Well, on the weekend, Vanessa posted 241 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: to her Instagram a number of cryptic messages which hinted 242 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: that her relationship with Tomic was over. She wrote, I've 243 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: always been real and raw with you guys about my 244 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: life both my ups and downs despite potential judgment, and 245 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: you've always been incredibly supportive and my rock. I'll speak 246 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: to you all when I'm ready. She then shared another 247 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: post that said you've got to be with someone who 248 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: got plans for both yall, not just them. She also 249 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: shared another Instagram photo featuring a broken heart emoji and 250 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: caption it fooled me twice so. Last month, Vanessa also 251 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: shared a rather telling video to her TikTok where she 252 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: wrote what people think my relationship is like and showed 253 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: all these happy videos and then to what my relationship 254 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: is actually like and showed countless videos of her crying. 255 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: I feel like I only realized these two were together 256 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: in February when the Australian Open was on, Because if 257 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: you cast your mind back, there were a lot of 258 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: people talking about the vlog Vanessa shared where she was 259 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: complaining that she had to wash her own hair. Now. 260 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: The comment was very tongue in cheek, however, she got 261 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: a lot of trolling over it, and then everyone kind 262 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: of backflipped and said it wasn't fair. I remember finding 263 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: that so amusing because all the news stations were running 264 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: with that, and it amused me that the journalist would 265 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: have had to sit down and watch her vlog order 266 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: to find the grab. Well, what I found more shocking 267 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: was that Bernard revealed that she's in fact his tennis coach, 268 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: despite her having no tennis ability. This seemed to be 269 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: a big loopholder allow her to travel with him. So 270 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: what has Bernard Tomic's response been to all of these allegations. Well, 271 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: Bernard actually responded on his Instagram account initially, and he 272 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: wrote on his Insta story, Vanessa Sierra thinks leaking our 273 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: tapes on her OnlyFans is going to affect me. Hold up, 274 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: let me recount my millions. Now, this isn't the first 275 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: time Bernard has referenced his bank account when he's been criticized. So, 276 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 1: after losing in the qualifying finals ahead of the twenty 277 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: eighteen Australian Open, Tomic said, I just count money. That's 278 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: all I do. I count my millions. You go do 279 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: what I did on court. Bye bye, You go make 280 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: thirteen to fourteen million. Good luck guys. Then, after losing 281 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 1: at Wimbledon in twenty seventeen, Bernard signed off by saying, 282 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: you probably don't like me, but at only twenty four 283 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: you guys can only dream about having what I have 284 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: at twenty four end of the day. Don't like me 285 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: or whatever, just go back dreaming about your dream car 286 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: or house what I go by them. To be honest, 287 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm really not surprised by his wanker comments. I mean, 288 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 1: how many times does he have to reference how much 289 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: money he's got? But you would think that somebody would 290 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: have got into his head and said, hey, Bernard, I 291 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: think you need to release an official apology because that 292 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: vision of him breaking the computer was over every news station. 293 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: What I'm actually so shocked about, just going back to 294 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: the money for a second, is how has he actually 295 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: made all this money? Because he has been, you know, 296 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: despite being touted as this success story, he has been 297 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: very underwhelming in his tennis performance and ability. And I'm sorry, 298 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: but who are the sponsors that would ever sign up 299 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: to work with this individual? Well, I did find the 300 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: comment kind of contradictory to the sixty minutes interview that 301 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: Vanessa Sierra did where she spoke about that she makes 302 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: a lot more money than Bernard Tomic and talked about 303 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: how she makes millions from OnlyFans, So it seemed like 304 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: a bit of an odd flex for Bernard to be like, oh, 305 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: well I'm going to count my millions. Well, she could 306 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: be well, fuck you, Bernard, I'm counting more. Actually I 307 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: did see in the comments section somebody wrote, oh no, 308 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: Bernard's gonna lose all of his sponsors, and she wrote 309 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: what sponsors and her laughing face. The interesting thing, though, 310 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: is Bernard has done a complete backflip out of as 311 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: of recording the podcast. On a Friday night, he actually 312 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: shared a photo of him and Vanessa kissing, and he said, 313 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: shouldn't have broken her stuff. I don't know what came 314 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: over me. My ego too big, but I'm going to 315 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: drop it for you, so sorry, wifey. Please let's make 316 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: things right now. Vanessa has also subsequently removed the post 317 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: of Bernard breaking her computer off Instagram. It still remains 318 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: on TikTok, but it's safe to say that they must 319 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: have had some sort of discussion and appears that they 320 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: are trying to resolve things, which I find very alarming. 321 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: I find this behavior quite typical of someone who is 322 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: an abuser, because what an abuser will normally do is 323 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: make a public declaration and apologize. And obviously that's worked 324 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: because she's removed the video. It will be interesting to 325 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: see in time she does actually returned to this relationship. 326 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: And I mean, I don't want to judge her for 327 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: doing that, because I understand that these type of relationships 328 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: aren't black and white. And this is really a time 329 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: that I hope Vanessa's family come around her and help 330 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: her and her friends help her in this situation exactly. 331 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: And just to point out, Vanessa has denied that Bernard 332 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: has ever laid a finger on her. She isn't accusing 333 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: him of abusing her. Yeah. Well, it's quite interesting because 334 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: Vanessa hasn't even come out and said that they're not together. 335 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: And this was quite contentious because Hughsey, of all people, 336 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: he was actually dragged into the drama because on his 337 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: radio show he said it's fair to say that they've 338 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: broken up. Now. Apparently Hughsey and Vanessa Sierra are friends 339 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: behind closed doors, which I've found quite strange. Vanessa then 340 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: went onto Instagram and said, for anyone who listened to 341 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: Hughsey on the radio, I never confirmed a breakup. My 342 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: initial response saying I don't talk to media does not 343 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: count as a reply to his DM. Clearly, off the 344 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: record means nothing these days, and She concluded with the 345 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: hashtag fake news. You know, it's funny because if you 346 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 1: use the term off the record, that's when you tell 347 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: the truth about something. By hey, it's off the record. 348 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: So it's kind of contradictory what she's saying. She's obviously 349 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: told Hughsey that they've broken up, but wasn't expecting him 350 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: to tell everybody on air. 351 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 352 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: Well, Hughsey is backtracked on his show and he apologized 353 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: to Vanessa for breaking her trust. He said, I never 354 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: said that they've broken up. I said that she has 355 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: sent some dms, and I didn't say what she had 356 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: said in the DMS. I definitely shouldn't have said it's 357 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: fair to say they have broken up. I shouldn't have 358 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: said that, and I apologize to you now, Vanessa. I 359 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: hope that we can build a bridge so that we 360 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: can be friends again. Before we wrap this up, I 361 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: do want to get your guys' opinion because in the 362 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: original post on Instagram, Vanessa did say that she would 363 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: be leaking more videos of Bernard Tomic and a lot 364 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: of people thought that that potentially meant revenge porn because 365 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: she said she'd be putting on her only fans account. 366 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if we can just assume that it 367 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: was revenge porn. I mean, I know the fact that 368 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: she said it was going to be on OnlyFans, your 369 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: mind immediately thinks to something pornographic. However, perhaps she was 370 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: going to share more more abusive videos but wanted to 371 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: put the paywall there. Well, a follower did actually say, 372 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: do you have Bernard's permission to share those videos? That's 373 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: really wrong with you to do that, and she said, 374 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: I do have his permission. So I'm really confused about 375 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: what she was going to actually share. Could I'm just 376 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: asking this, I actually don't think it's true, but a 377 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: lot of people have been saying, potentially this is a 378 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: publicity stunt. Could this be Bernard and Vanessa Sierra launching 379 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: their OnlyFans account together. I definitely do not think this 380 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: is a publicity stunt. I don't think you can fake 381 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: that video, like the look of rage on his face, 382 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: and I don't think that Vanessa Sierra would do that. 383 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: I mean, she herself has said that she has been 384 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: a victim of domestic violence, and I think we need 385 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: to take women's claims about domestic violence seriously. This was 386 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: clearly a cry for help. This poor woman clearly has 387 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: has been through this before, if judging by her Instagram 388 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: posts with a black eye. I feel really sorry for 389 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: her and I really think she needs help, and you 390 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: know what, it pisses me off. A Tennis Australia hasn't 391 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: come out and said anything. I think that this needs 392 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: to go further in terms of this behavior is not 393 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: acceptable for anyone to do, particularly someone like Bernard Tomic 394 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: who was a role model. This is amy coming to 395 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: you from the future. Since recording more information has come 396 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: to light, Vanessa Sierra has taken to her Instagram over 397 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: the weekend, labeling her behavior childish for sharing the video 398 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: of Bernard breaking her laptop. Police in Croatia, which is 399 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: where Bernard and Vanessa are currently located, have confirmed to 400 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: the media they are investigating the case after receiving a 401 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: complaint from a woman who claimed her belongings had been destroyed. 402 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: Let's have a listen to what Vanessa Sierra had to 403 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: say on her Instagram story. 404 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 4: I obviously wanted almost stuff replaced, which she refused to 405 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 4: do at the start, and I guess it was pretty 406 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 4: charleished with me to post the video, but in my head, 407 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 4: I was just like, Okay, well, I've got to make 408 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 4: the money back somehow. But since then, Bernard has actually 409 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 4: paid me back and he's sent me an apology and 410 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 4: we're finally talking again, so he has come to his senses. 411 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 4: And I also want to put this out there that 412 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 4: Bernard's going through a lot of persons stuff at the moment, 413 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 4: so if you guys can please be mindful of that. 414 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 4: I'm being mindful of that, so I'm trying not to, 415 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 4: I guess, create any more hate towards him, which I 416 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 4: already have created. Currently, I don't really know what I'm 417 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 4: gonna do. My plan was to come home, but I 418 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 4: do need to work things out with Bernard before I 419 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 4: make any big decisions. So I'll keep you guys updated 420 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 4: as always, and thank you for being patient and supportive. 421 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: Love you, guys. 422 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 4: I was the like full of hate for talking to Bernard. 423 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 4: I haven't said I've made any decisions yet. I simply 424 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 4: said that I'm talking to him, and I'm not excusing 425 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 4: any of the behavior. I don't say any of it 426 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 4: is okay, but I'm here to make my own decisions. 427 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 4: I'm giving him a chance to explain himself and talk 428 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 4: to me. And I think that's fair enough. So I'd 429 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 4: appreciate a little bit of kindness in the messages because 430 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 4: I don't think what I'm doing is wrong. I'm not 431 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 4: excusing anything. I'm just letting you guys know how things are. 432 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 4: I'm still staying in my own hotel. He's staying in 433 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 4: his own hotel. And yeah, I don't know what else 434 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 4: to say. I'm actually shocked at how much hate that 435 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 4: message got. But apparently being trying to be mature in 436 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 4: a relationship is not the way. 437 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: Also, last night, Vanessa shared a sneak peek on her 438 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: Instagram to a new Only Fans video which showed Vanessa 439 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: in a G string being spanked with a tennis racket. 440 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: So it seems this story isn't quite over. Hopefully for 441 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: Vanessa's sake, She's safe and now just a quick break 442 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: to say a big thank you to our sponsor of 443 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: today's episode, Peppicoat. 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So this included an aprin a shopping bag, 471 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: and to be honest, some very underwhelming products. So nothing 472 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: like her pink ticket that she has been promoting. No, 473 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't a pink ticket. But so all people had 474 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: to do was head to the app store, rate and 475 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: review Sonny and leave their Instagram handle at the end 476 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: of the review so the team could pick a winner. 477 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: It does seem like a very desperate bid to try 478 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: and strengthen the ratings on her app at the moment, 479 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,719 Speaker 1: because it isn't rating well. There are a lot of 480 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: negative reviews at the moment on that well. I think 481 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: the rating is sitting at about a three point three 482 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: at the moment. That is bad considering what a big 483 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: fan base she actually has. 484 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 2: Well. 485 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 1: The post that Sarah put up was met with a 486 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: lot of backlash. Many people accused Sonny of misleading potential 487 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: users of the app with false reviews, and following the backlash, 488 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: the post was amended to read we are six months 489 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: old this month, tell us what you love about Sonny 490 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: and go into the draw to win this prize. They 491 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: also amended the bit that said rate and review Sonny 492 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: to read rate and review Sonny based on your experience. 493 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: Then hours later the post was removed and replaced with 494 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: another post that read paused. With a number of queries 495 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: we have been sent regarding our recent giveaway, we've made 496 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: the decision to temporarily pause the competition while our team 497 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: ensures that we comply with relevant laws. We will be 498 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: sure to update you on the next steps and any 499 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: changes that need to be made. We are sorry for 500 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: the inconvenience and appreciate your ongoing love and support. This 501 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me because I did see one Sarah's day 502 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: hate page actually prompting people to report this competition. So 503 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: it seems like it has caught up with Sarah. Well, 504 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: it seems to me like this competition has been brought 505 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: about in it sort of a bit of desperation because 506 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: there has been a lot of talk about the fact 507 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: that the six month subscriptions that people see signed up 508 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: for are coming to an end with Sonny. So like, well, Sophie, 509 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: you remember did you sign up to six months? I 510 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: did sign up to six months? And I literally have 511 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: not touched the app for about four or five months 512 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: cook anything from her. I cooked a few disasters. Yeah, well, 513 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: I wanted to put it out there. I wanted to 514 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: find some healthy recipes because I have Have you had 515 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 1: a Google? I have, but I have naturally high cholesterol, 516 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: So I thought, oh, beauty, this might actually have some 517 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: good recipes. But unfortunately for me, I have not enjoyed that. 518 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: Have you left a review? No? I have not rated 519 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: and reviewed. Has anyone else noticed? 520 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 4: Though? 521 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: There does seem this big push at the moment to 522 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: be I mean an extra push I must say, to 523 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 1: be promoting a lot of their products because they've also 524 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: been promoting Sarah's White Fox boutique clothing with the competition, 525 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: and this is kind of getting rid of the dregs 526 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: that didn't sell because doing a thirty percent of sale. 527 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: And also now she's come out and announced that she's 528 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 1: going to have a third e book. So I think 529 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: that what's happening here before it was all, you know, 530 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 1: the commentary was I'm putting my all into the sunny walking, 531 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: working around the clock with it. Now, all of a sudden, 532 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: I think they've reassessed the situation and said, Look, no 533 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 1: one cares about her cooking. People care about your fitness, 534 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: and I mean at the moment, I think today, she 535 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: was sharing photographs of herself in labor, So it's clearly 536 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: going to be marketed as very much you know, oh, 537 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: bouncing back after you've had your post baby. Yeah, there's 538 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: a lot of people talking about the fact that she 539 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: is trying to remarket herself as a bit of a 540 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: mummy vlogger. And she actually has changed her Instagram picture 541 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: of her and Fox, which I don't think she has 542 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: ever had. So it does seem like she is trying 543 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: to signal that transition into the mummy blogger and maybe 544 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: away from the cooking. I do think these desperate attempts 545 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: to raise funds could potentially be because they've probably put 546 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: a lot of money into the app. I mean, it's 547 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: not a cheap thing to do to create your own app. 548 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: Look to be honest, I mean, is there that much 549 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: demand for gluten free, dairy free, sugar free food. I 550 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: think that she should have released her as an e book. 551 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: She probably would have made a stack of money. I 552 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: think that she's probably bitten off more she can chew 553 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: with this app and Unfortunately, people aren't loving it, and 554 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: that's why there is a three star rating. Well, I'm 555 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: surprised that she's gone back to actually releasing an e 556 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: book because I feel like that's very twenty fourteen. I 557 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: mean e books were really popular with like Kayla Estinas's 558 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: Bikini Body Challenge, and she made the move onto an app, 559 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: and we also saw it with Keep It Cleaner. So 560 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: Steph and Laura actually launched Keep It Cleaner. I think 561 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: the actually called it Keep It Clean as an ebook, 562 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 1: and that's gone on to an app. So I'm surprised 563 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: that they're not incorporating her workout routine into the app. Yeah, 564 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: but it's pbably easy. It's probably proof that the app 565 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: isn't working. I think it's a it's a quick push 566 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: for money. I think now getting back into the legalities 567 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: over this competition, Amy, what are the laws surrounding encouraging 568 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: people to leave reviews with the lure of a prize. Well, 569 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: it's really interesting because according to the A Triple C, 570 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: they consider it misleading to write reviews when you haven't 571 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: experienced the good or service that you are reviewing, and 572 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: also it's considered misleading to solicit others to write review 573 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: views about your business and goods if you know that 574 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: they haven't experienced the products either. So this is why 575 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: we've seen the team at Sunny change up the wording 576 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: of the post. In regards to offering incentives in return 577 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: for reviews, the A Triple C says the incentives should 578 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: only be offered in exchange for reviews of a business 579 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: if the incentives are offered equally to consumers. So this 580 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: basically means that if a person leaves a negative review, 581 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: they still have an opportunity to win the prize pack, 582 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: and if they offer a positive review, they also have 583 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: an opportunity to win. So it didn't seem like they 584 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: were giving any sort of metric as to how the 585 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: competition would actually be drawn, so you would assume by 586 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: reading it that if you left a really glowing review, 587 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: you would go into a have a very good chance 588 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: of winning. Well. The A Triple C also states that 589 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: the incentive must be prominently disclosed to users who rely 590 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: on affected reviews, so that means that they would have 591 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: to get every person who was leaving a review to disclose, Hey, 592 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm entering a competition and this is obviously not being done. 593 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: So this is one breach I would assume that has 594 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: happened same rule. Does the same rule apply for podcasts. 595 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,479 Speaker 1: I'm not going to name any podcasts, but I have 596 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: seen multiple podcasts that have a lot of followers based 597 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: on their influencer status, and they offer a prize for 598 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: people leaving them good reviews. I feel like this is 599 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: that's quite deceptive as well to people that might listen 600 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: to the podcast. I mean, it's an interesting one because 601 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: it does refer to a business, so it would depend 602 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: if the podcast is a business or if it's a 603 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: passion propose. It's different because you don't pay to listen 604 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: to a podcast, but it might be a little bit different. 605 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: But it is misleading, but you still make money off 606 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: it and have sponsors who you know. If you get 607 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: a lot of listeners, you get people paying you more money. 608 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: So I feel like it could fall into that category. 609 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: So what does everyone make of them actually pausing the competition. Well, 610 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: I think it's quite clear that it wasn't their decision 611 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: to pause it. I think it was probably a decision 612 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: made by the A Triple C. I mean, the AH 613 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,959 Speaker 1: Triple C wouldn't jump in that quickly. But I think 614 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: people were commenting some of the regulations in the comments, 615 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: so that might have prompted them to take it down. Okay, 616 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: before they got into much trouble. Well, what did you 617 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: think about the way the Sunny team handled this negative 618 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: feedback online? Well, there was really interesting messaging. So one 619 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: comment from the Sunny team said that it had been 620 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: brought to their attention that there were a number of 621 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: fake slash negative reviews on the app Store, and then 622 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: if people would like any further clarification on what the 623 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: app is like, to DM them. So they're trying to 624 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: say that all these negative reviews are actually fake reviews. 625 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: And it was quite funny because a few people responded saying, well, 626 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: we've DMed you and we've actually received no response. And 627 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: then there were a lot of people commenting that were 628 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: saying that their comments had been deleted on Sonny's page, 629 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: not just on the day that this competition occurred, but 630 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: also on other days. Well, I have actually seen this 631 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: Sarah's Day hate page actually posting a lot of the commentary, 632 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: and people seem to be leaving legitimate comments saying that 633 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: they have an issue with it, and they do get deleted. 634 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: And it's quite funny because When you look at Sonny's comments, 635 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: it's quite clear that they haven't had a really large 636 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: take up compared to say an app like He Cleaner, 637 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: because I actually follow Keep It Cleaner on Instagram and 638 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: there are genuine comments on there where it only seems 639 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: to be like Sarah is commenting on the Pope. 640 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 641 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: Well, I think Sarah's commenting to boost the engagement, because 642 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: if you get somebody who's got a huge following and 643 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: they comment on your Instagram, it's going to boost that 644 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: engagement level. Doesn't seem to be working. No, it doesn't 645 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: seem to be working. But someone raised the issue about 646 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: Sunny deleting comments, and Sonny responded saying thanks for your message. 647 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: As an approach to bullying, Instagram hides comments if they 648 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: are reported too many times. Please note we have not 649 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: deleted any comments. Our team is working to rectify this 650 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: issue in the most compliant and fair way. Wow, but 651 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: it's so funny because a lot of people were saying 652 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: that someone had shared a comment saying can I please 653 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: ask what is Sarah's qualifications for producing this app? 654 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 655 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: And that was deleted as bulling bones. This comment was 656 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: left up for quite a while and it accumulated a 657 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: large number of likes, and then it was deleted when 658 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: the Sunny team realized. So that kind of comment is 659 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: not going to be deleted for bullying by Instagram. It's 660 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: quite obvious that they are deleting the comments themselves. 661 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 662 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: Well, it'll be very interesting to see what happens with 663 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: Sonny because this is obviously a project that needs constant updating. 664 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: Because for those who don't know, Sarah has promised to 665 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: put new recipes every week. So I suppose we'll wait 666 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: and see what happens with the app. 667 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 2: Look, look, I'm reading this too. 668 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 3: Oky guy. 669 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 2: Daniel Darcy says, I personally don't like Chris Fox. I 670 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 2: think he tries way too hard. 671 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 4: What do you have to say about that? 672 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, fuck gotta here, Danny L. 673 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: I very much enjoyed watching Medisine Wooley's Q and A 674 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: vlog last night on YouTube because this was extremely juicy. 675 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: She opened up about the reasons behind why she's moving 676 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: out alone despite telling everyone she was gonna move out 677 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: with her boyfriend Jonathan Sower and her best friend Caitlin. 678 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: She also innocently decided to tell us what her dream 679 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: car was. However, this has caused a lot of contention 680 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: because she she has announced herself as an MG partner, 681 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: so on an Instagram account and on her podcast, she 682 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: has been spooking MG and saying that she's loved driving 683 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: around it. So let's take a little reminder of what 684 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: she said on her podcast, also exciting. 685 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 3: We got to drive around in some super stylish, cute 686 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 3: MG three cars for the past week. If you guys 687 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 3: follow us on Instagram and also on the Girl Code Instagram. 688 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: They're actually so cute. They are so cute. Since getting 689 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: the MG, I'm actually so obsessed with it. 690 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 3: Such a cute car. If you guys actually want to 691 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 3: know more about the cars that we've been driving around 692 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 3: for the past week, we have highlights on the Girl 693 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 3: codes Instagram page and you can look at all the 694 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 3: cunuwe features. 695 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: So then this is what she said her dream car was, 696 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: which is quite contradictory. 697 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 3: So my dream car right now is to get I 698 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 3: want the big black Jeep Wrangler with the big black wheels. 699 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: Wow, how awkward. I'm guessing that people at MG are 700 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: pretty pissed off after seeing that Q and A. She 701 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: further dug herself a hole by saying that buying a 702 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 1: car is the worst financial move because it's a depreciating asset. 703 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 3: Buying a car is just the worst financial move because 704 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 3: it's just such a depreciating asset, so as soon as 705 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 3: you buy it, you start losing money. So I'm just 706 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 3: it's really hard for me to justify spending the money 707 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 3: on a car when I'm just like, I have my fear, 708 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 3: you know. But then also I'm like, how good would 709 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 3: it be to be driving around. 710 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: In the jeep? So I find this very boggling that 711 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: you would put this out to your YouTube followers, who 712 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,479 Speaker 1: you're telling, Okay, buy this car because I've been paid 713 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: to it, but actually buying a car is a terrible 714 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: financial decision. Well, despite the stuff up about the car, 715 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: I actually did enjoy this Q and A video because 716 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 1: she was really real and honest in her video, and 717 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: she really she just kind of went there with some 718 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 1: of the answers. I got to disagree because I found 719 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: that she kind of you know, yeah, she did include 720 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: comments about people asking her what's going on with her boyfriend, 721 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: because it's quite clear if something's going on the fact 722 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: that they said they were going to move out together 723 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: and suddenly they're not, and there's been kind of some 724 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: cryptic clues that she's been talking about on her podcast. 725 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's good that she acknowledged it. However, she 726 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,479 Speaker 1: kept cutting it and editing it, so she really didn't 727 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 1: say anything other than, oh, we're having issues with communication. 728 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: But then on Friday night she backed it up by 729 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: putting a picture of him grabbing her boob and then 730 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: them being all lovey dovey. So I feel like they're 731 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: trying to like it's very contradictory the messaging at the moment. 732 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe that's the issue, contradictory communication maybe, But 733 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: that's what's interesting about her having this podcast. I actually 734 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: think it's a good move by her because on her 735 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: Instagram she doesn't really she only really shares the highlights, 736 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: and a lot of people can't relate to that. I 737 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: think that influencers need to become a bit more real, 738 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: and I think she is making an effort to do that. Yeah, 739 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: but I feel like you've got to match it up 740 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 1: on the platforms, Like you can't go on to one 741 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: platform and really open and honest, and then on your 742 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: Instagram you're pretending that everything's perfect, well onto another. You 743 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: see Q and A Michael Finch opened up on his 744 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: instance stories about his new lifestyle. Let's throw to the 745 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 1: most interesting parts. 746 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 2: Be completely honest. I was depressed and anxious as fuck, 747 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 2: and I was a super super angry person, and I 748 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 2: just couldn't work out why. And I knew that a 749 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 2: big part of things was majority of the life, and 750 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 2: I knew that the lifestyle choices that I was making 751 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 2: at the time were the main cause of it, but 752 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 2: I didn't know how much of it. And I just 753 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 2: became obsessed with it, you know what I mean. And 754 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 2: I fucking enjoy it so much. And yeah, I have 755 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 2: a healthy relationship with alcohol now too. I still like 756 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,240 Speaker 2: to get super wasted, but I drink to have fun. 757 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 2: I don't drink to forget or forget about what's going 758 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 2: on in you know, real life and reality like that. 759 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 2: And I think that's okay. I'm happy with that. 760 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 1: You know, it sounds like Michael Finch's had to take 761 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: a big break on social media to be able to 762 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: do all of these things, to be able to change 763 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: his whole lifestyle. Yeah, he has been very quiet on 764 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 1: social media, and he's sort of hinted at a bit 765 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: of a comeback. I mean, I don't know what that 766 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 1: looks like, because it doesn't seem like he hangs out 767 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: with many of his old friends. I mean, we used 768 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: to see him with Shane and Lily Brown all the time. 769 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: It seems like that cruise a little bit on the 770 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 1: back burner, and it seems like he has sort of 771 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: changed into this sort of like I want to say, 772 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: Earth Mother. So he's like growing his own vegetables. He 773 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: loves cooking, and he looks like a completely different person. 774 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: He does. I think it's the hair, and he's got 775 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 1: his new teeth. He does look his skin looks glowing 776 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: from all of the veggies. Are you sure that's not 777 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: the filter? Oh, it's a little bit of the filter. 778 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: It's a little bit of him. But I do think 779 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: that if he does become consistent again with his content, 780 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: he will bring back some of that audience that has 781 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: left him because a lot of the people who would 782 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: have followed Michael Finch back in the day, they've grown 783 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: up a little bit. I mean, I'm thirty two. I 784 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 1: wouldn't mind seeing him talk about his veggie patch. Yeah, 785 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: exactly right. I also really enjoyed how he spoke about 786 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: people perceiving him as rich, so he said, I was 787 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: never rich. I spend a lot of money on shit 788 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: that goes to waste in the end, and you're really 789 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: left with nothing but a low bank account. Honey. Now, 790 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: I think it's really great that he's coming out on 791 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: his platform and saying, Okay, I had that lifestyle, I 792 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: don't have it anymore, but I'm actually happier away from that. Yeah. Well, 793 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: you do see a lot of influencers these days earning 794 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: a lot of money very quickly, and often they go 795 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: and spend it on design of things, and that's definitely 796 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,280 Speaker 1: what Michael did. I remember he had his Gucci cand 797 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,280 Speaker 1: or when he was always flying business class overseas, which 798 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,919 Speaker 1: is fair enough if that's what he wanted to spend 799 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: his money on. But I suppose it is a really 800 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: good message to his younger followers that maybe it would 801 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,280 Speaker 1: have been a better idea to save it, and maybe 802 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: if they're in that position, that's what they should do. Well. 803 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 1: I feel like he's more relatable now. I mean he 804 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 1: was really you know, he became popular because he was 805 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: this relatable, funny guy, and now he's sort of back 806 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: like as one of us. I do feel like people 807 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: liked watching his bougie lifestyle though. Yeah, I do, but 808 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: I think that gets old pretty quickly, like you've seen 809 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: with Shanni Grimm, and she still living quite a luxurious lifestyle, 810 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: and I feel like interest in her has really dropped. 811 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 1: So I suppose another interesting part of this Q and 812 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 1: A had to do with Lily Brown. So Lily and 813 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: Michael have been pretty public about the fact that they've 814 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: had a falling out. They used to be best friends. 815 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: They were on lots of YouTube videos together, and suddenly 816 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: they kept like unfollowing each other and then following each other, 817 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: and it just seemed pretty apparent that there was a rift. 818 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: Michael has revealed he's updated us and that they have 819 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: actually rekindled their friendship, which made me quite happy. Yeah, 820 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: that is really cool because Michael is the one who 821 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:36,280 Speaker 1: really introduced Lily to the Instagram world and the YouTube world. 822 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 1: That's how she kind of got big by being his friend. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 823 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: So I feel like it's, you know, the world is 824 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 1: fine now they're back together. Well, I think that's all 825 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: we've got time for today. Thank you so much for 826 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: joining us for another episode about Spoken. If you did 827 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 1: enjoy the episode, we'd love if you could go and 828 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: leave us a review. I'm sorry, we're not going to 829 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: be sunny. We're not going to be sending anybody any pack. Yeah, 830 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: we're leaving us a review. 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