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Speaker 1: Now we've been talking quite a bit about petrol prices

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Speaker 1: and even after I got off here yesterday, my phone

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Speaker 1: was blowing up about the cost of petrol. Joining me

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Speaker 1: in the studio is Ben Haythorpe from AAANT the Advocacy

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Speaker 1: and Well he works in advocacy and community engagement.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Ben, Good morning Katie.

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Speaker 1: Hi you really good. Great to have you in this studio.

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Speaker 2: Nice to be back now.

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Speaker 1: I know you caught up with Dan from Breakfast a

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Speaker 1: couple of days ago to talk about these petrol prices.

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Speaker 1: But the lay of the lands changed a little bit

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Speaker 1: over the recent days, hasn't ash.

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Speaker 2: The last twenty four hours. Can I use the term

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Speaker 2: roller coaster because that's what's happening with petrol prices here

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Speaker 2: in Darwen. You know we've seen a massive spike with

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Speaker 2: probably six or seven retailers, and you know we're pushing

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Speaker 2: prices of close to two dollars And now you know,

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Speaker 2: I checked my phone fifteen minutes ago and the story's changed.

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Speaker 1: It's really interesting. I mean, dodgy. I can think of

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Speaker 1: a few different words for it, but I'll use so

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Speaker 1: you don't need to now. I mean, when you look

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Speaker 1: at the terminal gate price for Darwin, for your own

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Speaker 1: lettered Friday last week it was a dollar sixty point

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Speaker 1: five today a dollar sixty six point four. There's really

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Speaker 1: nothing justifying like a thirty percent or a thirty cent increase,

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Speaker 1: is there?

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Speaker 2: You've said it? Yeah, that's exactly right. You know. I

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Speaker 2: think there was a little bit of panic buying and

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Speaker 2: perhaps a little bit of opportunistic selling. You know, there

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Speaker 2: was queues out the front of some petrol stations earlier

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Speaker 2: on in the week in Darwin. But yeah, if you

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Speaker 2: go pass now, there's no cues anymore. And I think

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Speaker 2: people are sort of, you know, taking stock a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Ben, do you reckon we're going to see those petrol

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Speaker 1: prices fluctuate based on what is happening in the Middle East.

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Speaker 2: Well, the interesting part of this story is and a

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Speaker 2: lot of people are worried about the Middle East, and

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Speaker 2: you know, because it is such an important part of

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Speaker 2: where crude oil does come from. So twenty percent of

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Speaker 2: the world's oil comes through through the straits of holl Mars,

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Speaker 2: but eighty percent of the world's oil comes from other places.

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Speaker 2: And a lot of our crude oil comes from our

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Speaker 2: near neighbors, like in Indonesia and Malaysia, and so you know,

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Speaker 2: I think keep that in mind because there is still

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Speaker 2: supply out there. Yeah. Sure, things are going to be

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Speaker 2: a little bit disrupted, you know, while this war is

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Speaker 2: going on, but you know, look at the long term

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Speaker 2: view and hopefully we're still going to have plenty of

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Speaker 2: crude or coming our way.

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Speaker 1: A couple of things that were raised with us yesterday

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Speaker 1: by listeners. First off, two people got in contact with

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Speaker 1: me yesterday and said, Katie, the advertising board outside where

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Speaker 1: I went to fill my car up, one person said

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Speaker 1: was at a certain price, then when they went to

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Speaker 1: the bowser it was at a higher price. I mean

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Speaker 1: that is not allowed, is that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I would have serious concerns if that is a

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Speaker 2: common thing that's happening here in Darwin, because yeah, I'd

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Speaker 2: not totally okay with the laws, but I always say

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Speaker 2: that's virginally illegal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'd encourage that person to get in contact

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Speaker 1: with Consumer Affairs or the a Triple C because that

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Speaker 1: is dodgy as that should not be happening.

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Speaker 2: I agree, I agree.

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Speaker 1: Now, then the other thing that people were contacting me

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Speaker 1: about yesterday was the ant app crashing or something going

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Speaker 1: on with the AA N T app.

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Speaker 2: What was happening there, Yeah, or actually a couple of

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Speaker 2: things actually, but yeah, what happens with the A N

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Speaker 2: T app is every day a new bar code is generated,

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Speaker 2: and that gets generated at midnight. And there was a

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Speaker 2: period I think from midnight till nine am till the

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Speaker 2: people got back into the office that they realized that

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Speaker 2: the new barcode hadn't been generated. But I do believe

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Speaker 2: that has been fixed. The second issue, and this relates

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Speaker 2: to all of this, is the numbers of people that

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Speaker 2: were accessing that app tripled on that day. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: that also caused a few issues as well, But I

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Speaker 2: do believe that that's all resolved. But yeah, if there

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Speaker 2: are still people having issues, you feel free to contact

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Speaker 2: the A and T.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Ben, what I mean, what's your advice for

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Speaker 1: people today around filling up their cars? I mean, some

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Speaker 1: people are sort of freaking out and they're going out

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Speaker 1: there and they're you know, they're wanting to fill their

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Speaker 1: cars up. What do we need to do?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm driving around on half a tank

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Speaker 2: at the moment, and to be honest, I haven't filled

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Speaker 2: up meact.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking I was a bit lazy by not

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Speaker 1: doing it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so look, I guess, you know, maybe I'm too

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Speaker 2: much of a glass half full type of guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't see the real need to do it. And

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Speaker 2: the other good news in this is we do have

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Speaker 2: quite cheap fuel here and Darwin the Eastern States, you know,

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Speaker 2: their boom has sorry, their spike has lasted way longer

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Speaker 2: than ours. So they're paying two twenty over in Sydney,

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Speaker 2: Melbourne and Brisbane. Now apparently, so our fuel is you know,

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Speaker 2: very good, very competitive.

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Speaker 1: Yep, and we I mean I've just started to sort

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Speaker 1: of keep an eye back on the my fuel lap

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Speaker 1: as well, and I'll continue to do that and read

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Speaker 1: those prices out for our listeners over the next few days.

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Speaker 1: But I guess you just got to go to where

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Speaker 1: it's cheaper.

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Speaker 2: Look, definitely, you know, that's the real power of information

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Speaker 2: and the power of using our wallets. You know, we

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Speaker 2: can with a few clicks on our phone work out

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Speaker 2: that hey, if we go one hundred meters down the road,

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Speaker 2: we're going to save twenty cents a leader. Now that

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Speaker 2: I'll be encouraging all motorists to do that, you know, shopper,

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Speaker 2: use the power of your wallet. And as I said

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Speaker 2: to him, if you find a cheap fuel place, going

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Speaker 2: buy a cup of coffee off them too, because they

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Speaker 2: make money out of coffee as well. And it's a

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Speaker 2: good way to support those those doing the right thing,

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Speaker 2: that are doing the right thing, because that's.

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Speaker 1: A big part of it is you do want to

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Speaker 1: support those that are doing the right thing by the

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Speaker 1: customers exactly well, Ben Haythorpe from the A n T.

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Speaker 1: Always great to catch up with you. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for having a chat with us this morning.

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Speaker 2: Great thanks Katie, thank you