1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: Here at two good Sports. 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 2: We would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: land on which we record this podcast. There were Inuri people. 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 2: This land was never seated, always was, always will be. 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 2: Happy birthday to you, Happy beirthday to you, Happy beth Day. 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 3: Dear is Jealmy. 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: Happy belidd birthday to. 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 3: You in French? 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 4: Are you actually, George enough of that once you get 10 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 4: over a certain age you don't want to acknowledge birthdays. 11 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: But welcome good sports. 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: Dear listener. 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: I hope that you were singing along with me, because 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 2: one of the goodest sports that you'll ever meet abs Gelby. 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: It was her birthday since the last time that we spoke, 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 2: and she's radiating joy and wisdom. 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 4: She's radiating sleep because the one thing I asked for 18 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 4: was my parents to be in down to help out 19 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 4: with a small child. 20 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 3: So I am well slept, but no, I had a 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 3: really nice dage, Georgia. It's very sweet, thank you, But 22 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: how are you my good sport? 23 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: Ah? Well, do you know what? You're well slept? 24 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: And I actually am not, and it leads into my 25 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: bad sport of this episode. We're starting strong because you 26 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: know what, I cannot stand sleep paralysis. 27 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: Have you ever had that before? 28 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 3: No? 29 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 30 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: Before coming in today to record, I was like trapped 31 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: in a limbo where I was in bed. It's been 32 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: so windy anyone who's sitting in the southeast of the country. 33 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 2: And I could not get any sleep, so I moved 34 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 2: myself to the couch because the windows were rattling so much. 35 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: So I went to the couch and I was like 36 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 2: sleeping on the couch and I was like, please, let 37 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: me get a couple of hours. I've got a podcast 38 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: to do. And then I had this crazy thing. It's 39 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: like where you're trapped and you're asleep, but you're not asleep, 40 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: so it's like you're conscious but you can't yeah. Yeah, 41 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: And people you see all those memes where it's like 42 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: a sleep paralysis demon and it's like that, you know, 43 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: naked monkey moving across across the grass for a towel. 44 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: I love, I said naked monkey as if monkeys were close. 45 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: But honestly, bad sport. If you haven't ever experienced it, 46 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: good for you. My bad sport is get it out 47 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: of my head. No sleep paralysis demon. 48 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 3: It is the worst. 49 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: It's the worst. 50 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 4: I was about to say sleep paralysis is actually very 51 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 4: handy for the time zone in Paris. Oh yes, that 52 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 4: would have been really handy for the Paralympics. A bit 53 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 4: of a disclosure. We are recording earlier, earlier this week 54 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 4: than usual, so we're not going to dive into the 55 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 4: Paralympics lest we miss something. Yes, before this actually goes 56 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 4: to air, so we're not ignoring it. We just don't 57 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 4: want to miss any of the big headlines, so we 58 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 4: are going to be addressing that in a later perhaps 59 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 4: good Sport, Bad Sport an episode. 60 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: But what have you got for me? Good sport, bad sport. 61 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: Bad sport. 62 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: Oh no, double bad sport, double bad. We took too 63 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: much joy with the singing. 64 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 4: Okay again, this is going to give away the time 65 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 4: of record, but whatever. Last night, the All Australian squad 66 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 4: was announced. The group photo looks like Year twelve private 67 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 4: school boys got it. 68 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 3: Just didn't want to be there. 69 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: I've not seen it so mad. 70 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 4: The Sydney players, which had the majority of players in 71 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 4: this lineup, decided not to wear a tie. And your 72 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 4: Australian needs to get a blazer. It's very augusta you 73 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 4: get presented a blazer. Yes, they just didn't wear ties. 74 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 4: What do you mean so they had that the open 75 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 4: It just looks so they look like a yachtsman. It 76 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 4: looks ridiculous, Like make it mandatary that they all wear ties. 77 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: So sorry, don't wear times. I've just seen a quick photo. 78 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: My first look at the photo, and you're so right. 79 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 3: All those tie goes for one kilometer. 80 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: I'm immediately like, Goulden Heeney, where are your ties? What 81 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: is going on? 82 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 3: They look very Sydney. 83 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you're so right. They're at the yacht club. 84 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 3: Congratulations to all. 85 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 4: But I just think maybebe make it mandatory that they 86 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 4: all wear the same tie. 87 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: And if we're being serious about being named in a 88 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: national in quotation marks team, maybe play a game. 89 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 4: Okay, just because you have state of origin doesn't mean. 90 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: I'm just I say it every Yeah, it's such. 91 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 4: It's so confusing, though, Mike, where do these if we 92 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 4: announce the vix and the All Stars. I get it, 93 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 4: and I do think they're a space for origin in 94 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 4: AFL to come back and it was always fix versus 95 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 4: everyone else. Yeah, but you can't have the best players 96 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 4: take on everyone else. It would be a crime scene. 97 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 4: And also they all play out a position. There's like 98 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 4: four hundred midfielders in that site. 99 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: Actually, you're so right. 100 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 4: I've got one wingman because they're like, how else do 101 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 4: we get decos in this site? 102 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 3: And we can't not give it to Dacos. So it is. 103 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 4: And also Marcus Bondepelli got the AFL Player's MVP Award, 104 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 4: which is always a nice precursor to who might win 105 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 4: the Brown Lot. 106 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: Do you think that that seals it? Do you think favorite? 107 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 4: No, it depends on it's if you have players in 108 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 4: your team that still votes from you potentially. 109 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're so right, but it is one that means 110 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 3: a lot. 111 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, because didn't tra Law also get named in the 112 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: All Australia did So maybe he's pinched a couple of 113 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: he's playing with the Bulldogs, right, maybe he's pinched like 114 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: a couple of votes away from the Bond. But other 115 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: than like the Bond, surely it's Crips. 116 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: Otherwise I can't really I don't really know. 117 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 4: Well, Bond was also captain. He was an All Australian 118 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 4: captain and the vice captain was Crips. Are they going 119 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 4: to be wrestling for a Brown Low? No one knows 120 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 4: decos is also like I would like to enter the chat, so. 121 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 3: That's all to come. 122 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 4: But my bad sport while not talking about sport is 123 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 4: my God's sort out your ties. But what we are 124 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,559 Speaker 4: actually talking about this week is a topic of such 125 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 4: interest to me because it's one of those ones that 126 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 4: has fun facts riddled through it, where I go, they're 127 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 4: earning how much to do what now? And we're talking 128 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 4: about athletes as a personal brand. That's coming up, George. 129 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 4: Long before we ticked, or talked or uploaded a Hudson 130 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 4: filtered square image to the grid, hell, even before we 131 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 4: updated our status with. 132 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: What's on our mind? 133 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 4: Like the diary entries that no one asked for, do 134 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 4: not deep dive back into yours by the way you 135 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 4: start to to who you were as a person. But 136 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 4: long before social media, people of influence have been used 137 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 4: to sell products because if they use it and we 138 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 4: use it, maybe we're not so different from the superstars 139 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 4: after all. And arguably the most influential people in the 140 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 4: world of mega advertising dollars are athletes MJ. Brady, Pele Becks, 141 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 4: Ronaldo Messi, Rogers Arena Ali Bolt. These are all one 142 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 4: name brands that transcend their sport and become somewhat demigods, 143 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 4: but also walking billboards and Georgie. 144 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 3: No one cares. 145 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 4: Well, you don't care that you're selling space on your 146 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 4: guernsey if you've got a Nike Swush or an under 147 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 4: Armour badge. 148 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: All we care is that you perform in the arena. 149 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: Yes, and if that Nike Swush has helped you, maybe 150 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: it will help me at my under thirty fives netball 151 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: social game. 152 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: On the weekend. 153 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 154 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 4: And do you think about the most lucrative advertising space 155 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 4: in the world, and that's during a sports game at 156 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. Hell, they basically become movies in themselves 157 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 4: and the money that goes into it. 158 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 3: We know that. 159 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 4: But as I said, this has been Jesus probably had 160 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 4: a logo on him. This has been going on for 161 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 4: a very very long Pio. So why this week when 162 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 4: a very prominent Australian athlete is supposedly wanting a trade 163 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 4: from a club for one of the reasons being again 164 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 4: supposedly because we haven't heard from Christian Petrarca about why 165 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 4: he hasn't confirmed he'll be at the Demons next year. 166 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 4: One of the reasons supposedly is that he wants to 167 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 4: build his own personal brand. 168 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, q Upprol. 169 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: Apparently not allowed to want that. You're not allowed to 170 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: publicly or overtly want that. Especially in this country. This 171 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: has been a topic that you know, Jemy, I mean 172 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: you and I. We love sports, so we talk to 173 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: each other about sport all day, every day, every week, right. 174 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 3: Remember that time we started a podcast here we are here, 175 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 3: we are here, we are. 176 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: But this is one of those conversations where and I 177 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: know that we're both based in Melbourne, but where I'll 178 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: be war looking through the office and they'll be just 179 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: a group huddled together, men, women, and they'll all be 180 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: talking about track and what he's doing, and what's going 181 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: on at Melbourne and what's the real issue going on there? 182 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: How could everyone have stuff this up so badly? Why 183 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: isn't he talking to his club? Why won't he confirm 184 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: for twenty twenty five? 185 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: It is an. 186 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:22,239 Speaker 2: Issue that has really captivated a lot of the country. 187 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: And I think you're right, Jealmy. 188 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: I think it is because he's dared to say something 189 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: that people go oh and judge him for. 190 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 4: And more the point he hasn't said it, there's just 191 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 4: a gaping chasm where he hasn't said anything. Yeah, and 192 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 4: we're waiting to find out what commentators have come in 193 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 4: the commentary because I am a nerd and I listen 194 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 4: exclusively to sports talkback. 195 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 3: Is how dare he? 196 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: Yes? 197 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 3: Just play the game. 198 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 4: Your brand, You've got a Norm Smith medal, you've got 199 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 4: a Premiership, just your brand. It shouldn't be about you. 200 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 4: It should be about your teammates and the sport. And 201 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 4: I thought, my god, how Australian. 202 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: How Australian, especially when you consider the context that surrounds 203 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: Christian Ptruck and this particular AFL season. Wind back the tapes, 204 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: you will find an episode of you and I calling 205 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: his club a bad sport. 206 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 3: You were like, who let him back out. 207 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: There after he suffered what I mean, armchair expert over 208 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: here could deem at the time a disgusting injury, like 209 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: a horrible injury, right, and then he got back onto 210 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 2: the field with four broken ribs. 211 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: I think it was a punctured lung and a ruptured spling. 212 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 4: This is during the King's Birthday match, which is of 213 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 4: course also the Big Freeze, so we are going way 214 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 4: back when. But it was one of those ones where 215 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 4: to defend the doctors at the club. You just don't 216 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 4: know the level of damage at that time, and players 217 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 4: go back out there. 218 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 3: With broken ribs all the time. Bizarre, But here we are. 219 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 4: And also what we're discussing today isn't Christian Petrarca. 220 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 3: It's athletes as a brand. 221 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 4: But we feel like this context is really important if 222 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 4: we're going to use him as a springboard. 223 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think that it's something that a lot 224 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: of people are just I don't think they've purposely forgotten 225 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 2: about it, it's just they're choosing a different path right 226 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: now and focusing on him as a brand rather than 227 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 2: him as a person. Yes, not even him as an athlete, 228 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: him as a person. Because he went through such a 229 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 2: scary time. He went back out on the field, whatever 230 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: your thoughts are about that, he ended up needing to 231 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 2: go to hospital, was rushed to hospital, had to undergo 232 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: surgery for all of those injuries, which were likened to 233 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 2: some that you would experience in a car crash, had 234 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: to undergo surgery, and it was all happening so quickly. 235 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: He didn't go under general anesthetics. They just numbed the area, 236 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: so he was awake for it all. 237 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 3: And you're talking the spleen. 238 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, like your abdomen is being cut open and 239 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 4: you're awake. 240 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I'm sorry. I've had nightmares that were more 241 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 3: charming than that. 242 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: Sleep paralysis demon there you go, Oh my god, I 243 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 2: mean track, I know it's not exactly the same, but. 244 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 3: Could you talk about sleep paralysis? 245 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 4: He actually said, since then, I've had insomnia where I'm 246 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 4: just reliving that moment. And he also talks about what 247 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 4: his fiance said. 248 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: Oh. Yes, there was a time apparently in the hospital 249 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: during his recovery and immediately in that aftermath of his 250 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: surge because he had internal bleeding, that she got a 251 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: phone call at three am saying from a surgeon saying, oh, 252 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: we don't know if he's going to make he's in 253 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: a critical condition. Yeah, Which you can't just bounce back 254 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 2: from that. So obviously there's going to be some discussions 255 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 2: going through your mind about what your future may look like. 256 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 2: And then if you're already a person who thinks about 257 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: what life is like away from the footy field, Christian 258 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 2: Petrarca is a brand, Yes, like him away from footy 259 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: with his cooking and being a chef and all of 260 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: those things. I mean that just for me is a 261 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 2: natural progression then that of course that would be included 262 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 2: into any kind of discussion. 263 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 4: Absolutely, But I think it's also he is like anyone 264 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 4: who went through car crash like symptoms post an accident 265 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 4: that happened in the workplace, I'd probably have some questions 266 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 4: about how it was managed. But it's more that the 267 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 4: story has come out that he wants to be traded 268 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 4: to a larger club in Melbourne, i e. Ideally a 269 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 4: Carlton or a Collingwood, because Melbourne are a big fish. 270 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, the oldest club in the AFL. Right, that he. 271 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 4: Would like to do so because there's more eyes, there's 272 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 4: more fan and there's a bigger brand. This is what's 273 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 4: been suggested by people in the know. 274 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 1: That's his crime. 275 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: I would say, he's put it out there that he 276 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: would love more attention, but he hasn't. 277 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 3: Others have on his behalf. 278 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: You're right, You're right, others have on his behalf, but. 279 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 3: He hasn't denied it. 280 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 4: Yes, so there is a window there. But you speak 281 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 4: about Track the brand, Yes, he has one hundred and 282 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 4: seventy two thousand followers as we speak on his personal 283 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 4: account and since that accident that happened way back on 284 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 4: the tenth of June. His personal brand has aligned with 285 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 4: Online Ralph Lauren, Fragrances, Colgate, Samsung, Laroche, prose Yopro, and 286 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 4: my Protein. So this is since that accident, but that's 287 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 4: not where arguably his brand lives. His brand lives on 288 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 4: on Track five at on Track five again, this is 289 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 4: all via Instagram, where he has four hundred and seventy 290 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 4: three thousand followers, and on that account, he has in 291 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 4: the last couple of months, like we're not even talking 292 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 4: way back to the accident, aligned with Australian Eggs, Sporting Globe, Coppro, Mistate, 293 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 4: Mount Barker, Chicken, Primo Foods, VIC Markets, Bibby Foods. Firstly, 294 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 4: all of those call us. Call us because we were sports. 295 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 3: We would love to work with you. 296 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: If I. 297 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 3: Love Coppro Mistake, I've got shares in. 298 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: It, he's not even alive. 299 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: I've got shares in it because I believe so much 300 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: in that company. 301 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 4: So none of this is us putting shade on Christian 302 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 4: Petruka for what he's done since the accident. But what 303 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 4: we're saying is he is a brand and each one 304 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 4: of those would be a lucrative alignment that will set 305 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 4: him up for life after sport. So why is this 306 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 4: such a big deal. 307 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: Because it's also nothing that's new, right, Like, we have 308 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: seen this in an international context for decades. 309 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: Ever since we were kids growing up. 310 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: I remember Michael Jordan in what was it a Warner 311 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: Brothers movie, Space Jam, I've got the shirt. 312 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, he is bigger than the sport. 313 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 4: So we decided to zoom out, yes, because it's all 314 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 4: been very tight on Christian. So let's look at the 315 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 4: largest sporting landscape. Because when we started looking at some 316 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 4: of the numbers that the world's biggest athletes have made 317 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 4: from endorsements over the year, Wow, wow, wow, they are 318 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 4: just fun fact after fun fact. 319 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's incredible. 320 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: I mean I only recently watched that movie with Matt 321 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: Damon called Air, which is allegedly tracking, like you know, 322 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: based on a true story, tracking Michael Jordan's assent and 323 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: how he actually got the shoe deal in the first 324 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 2: place with Nike. 325 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, so MJ's where we obviously need. 326 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have to. 327 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 4: We have to do Georgie over his illustrious career at 328 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 4: the Bulls. 329 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: How much money did he. 330 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: Make ninety four million dollars American American. 331 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 4: Not bad, stunning, not bad, very very comfortable. How much 332 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 4: has he made from air Jordan more than ninety four million, 333 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 4: over one and a half billion dollars, and his net 334 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 4: worth he's apparently three point five billion dollars. 335 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: Who us, Oh my gosh. 336 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 4: And so Jordan really started this trend, particularly of sneakers, yes, 337 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 4: and athletes. 338 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: Yes. 339 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 3: And you may remember how have I got him into 340 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 3: this episode? No one knows. 341 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 4: Noah Lyles after winning the one hundred meters his first 342 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 4: thing he said in the press conference was I want 343 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 4: a sneaker. 344 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, not a pair of spikes. 345 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 4: I want a sneaker because that is where the money is. 346 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 2: So it's also because it because essentially it's giving him 347 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 2: a passive income, right totally, and a very very lucrative one. 348 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 2: The being like Mike, oh, oh my god, my god. 349 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 2: It's it's just a phenomenon. Because the biggest year in 350 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: sales for Nike's Jordan brand was in twenty twenty two, 351 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: two years ago. It's not something that's depreciating. If anything, 352 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: it just keeps ascending, keeps ascending, keeps climbing. 353 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 3: Speaking of just keeps climbing. 354 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 4: This is probably my greatest example and my favorite example 355 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 4: of what these endorsements can do. Caitlin Clark. Yes, so 356 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 4: she's a rookie, a rookie in the WNBL. 357 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 3: Wish a rookie. 358 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: She was here. 359 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 4: She's a rookie in the WNBA and arguably one of 360 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 4: the biggest names in women's sport and very famously earns 361 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 4: a fifteenth of what her male counterpearts do in the NBA. 362 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 4: But she signed a twenty eight million dollar contract for 363 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 4: eight years with Nike. 364 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 365 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so this is and has serial brands. Yes, 366 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 4: that's what I am and all of these different things. 367 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 4: So this actually helps immensely female athletes with high profiles 368 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 4: because she hain't making what Jordan did over her career. 369 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: No, she might what Jordan did, but she could potentially 370 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 2: get there, like this is the path, right, and she's 371 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: had to be very clever in the initial stages of 372 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: her career. As you say, she's a rookie, she's only 373 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: in her early twenties in being aware of herself as 374 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: a brand and marketing herself that way. 375 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 4: And the one thing I will say is that no 376 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 4: one ever over Michael Jordan's career went. Do you think 377 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 4: the bloke needs to take basketball more seriously and think 378 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 4: less about shoes? I mean, if you've watched the documentary 379 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 4: on Netflix, his teammates were like, he needs to do less, 380 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 4: he needs to do less, he needs to do less. 381 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: Just chill. 382 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 4: When you are performing on the court, no one cares 383 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 4: about what you're building outside of it. 384 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 3: If you're an American, if you are an American. 385 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 2: Case in point, Tiger Woods, right, one of the biggest 386 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 2: golfers us growing up. I think that we really did 387 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 2: hear about Michael Jordan, and we heard about Tiger Woods. 388 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: Like anyone who was like, who's the best athlete in 389 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 2: the world, people would say Tiger. 390 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 3: And again, swushh, this. 391 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: Is Nike, Nike, this is Nike. This is Nike. 392 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 3: So now I think of his son with an identical kit, 393 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 3: also with my kids. 394 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: So right with that red, that red shirt, that red rolo, 395 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 2: the red, it's the red, It's the red Polo. 396 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: And look at that. It's so identifiable to us. 397 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: This is what we mean as this next coming of 398 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 2: a fleets as the ultimate influences because. 399 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: They always have been and they are right now. 400 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 2: Free you can pluck that image we've got there. I 401 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 2: mean Tiger Wood signed his one of his first endorsement 402 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 2: deals with Nike at nineteen, a five year deal worth 403 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 2: forty million dollars, and obviously that then grew and grew. 404 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 4: I grew the fact that that was in nineteen ninety 405 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 4: six and we were just hero in Caitlyn Clark's deals. 406 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 3: It's worth a lot less. 407 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, probably gives context to where we're at. But 408 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 4: he actually in January this year it was the end 409 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 4: of his twenty seven year deal with Nike that was 410 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 4: worth five hundred million US. 411 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 3: I mean, it's good think golfers don't make too much 412 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 3: money with price money, so OBSEVD five hundred Let's. 413 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 4: Just break that down, Like I know that we just 414 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 4: talked about one and a half billion dollars. Think about 415 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 4: how big a brand Taylor Swift is. Oh and she 416 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 4: only just cracked a billion. 417 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, only only just this year. Yeah. 418 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: With the eras to her is when she became a 419 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: billionaire officially. Yeah, and she's the only I think she's 420 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: the only musician who's cracked the billionaire status from America. 421 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: Was it well from. 422 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: Being her own songwriting, yeah, through her own jay Z 423 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 2: as a producer, producer and stuff like that, whereas it's 424 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 2: all on the you know, it's all on her pen. 425 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 3: Shall we say, well, the one that really the number 426 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 3: that I messaged you and said, what the hell was 427 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 3: Steph Curry? And under Arma Oh yeah. 428 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 4: And the fact that over his career he's going to 429 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 4: make a billion dollars from under Ama. 430 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 2: Crazy crazy, But I've only and for me, Underrama is 431 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 2: a brand that I probably would have only entered my 432 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: consciousness in the last I don't know, five years, Yes, 433 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 2: Like honestly, I'd never heard of it before then. So 434 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: it takes like a Steph Curry, It takes athletes like 435 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 2: this for it to filter through into pop culture and 436 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 2: then it's like, oh, hang on, I wanted that. 437 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 4: And I think the thing to realize with all of 438 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 4: these is that American clubs and American sporting franchises are 439 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 4: privately owned. Yes, so the club takes care of itself 440 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 4: and you take care of yourself. There are no limitations 441 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 4: on what you can do. NRL and AFL completely different operation. Yes, 442 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 4: so those clubs, as part of your salary, you are 443 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 4: aligned with what their brands are and it is very 444 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 4: strongly stipulated what you can and cannot do. 445 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: Yes, and it's also comes into the international versus national market. 446 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 2: If we were walking down the street in Atlanta, Georgia, 447 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 2: I doubt that they know Reese Welsh. 448 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: They should, but they probably don't. 449 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: If you're walking down the street. 450 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 4: Of Collins Street in Melbourne, you're probably also pushing it. 451 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 4: So we don't really need to go to Georgia see 452 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 4: a Lebron Jersey, Sherry Red Shiger Woods kit. 453 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 3: So essentially what we wanted to establish. 454 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 4: With all of this is big business athletes and endorsing brands. 455 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 4: And if you've ever wondered, we'll hang on like how 456 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 4: much of this actually has cut through? Like if my 457 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 4: favorite athlete says they like or dislike a beverage, how 458 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 4: much does it move the needle on a global scale. 459 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 3: Well, arguably the. 460 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 4: Most famous athlete in the world, Cristiano Ronaldo, back at 461 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 4: the twenty twenty Euros, sat down for a press conference 462 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 4: and noticed that there was a bottle of Coca Cola 463 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 4: sitting in front of him with all the cameras, and 464 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 4: he went not today, moved the Coca Cola off the 465 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 4: desk and pulled out some water and said it was 466 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 4: something as simple as you should drink water. 467 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, drink water kids. 468 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 3: So clearly was going this isn't what fuels me. The 469 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 3: water is. 470 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, there was globally a drop of one point 471 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 4: six percent in shares for Coca Cola. And you're like, 472 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 4: well one point six that's five point two billion dollars. 473 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: That sounds more. You know if you put it a 474 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: those term. 475 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 4: Point two billion dollar dive us in the immediate aftermath, 476 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 4: that's the power. 477 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: That is the power of it, right, And those athletes 478 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 2: that we've just mentioned very quickly here, they would never 479 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 2: have had to make an apology for that. 480 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: You know, they're like, great, the plan is working. Where 481 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 1: is he now? 482 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: I understand the commentary around it, right, because Australians we 483 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: we we've got that tall poppy syndrome. 484 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: We hate those tall poppies. Right. 485 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 4: Oh, don't you dare tell me how good you are? Yeah, 486 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 4: I'll tell you how good you are. And you are 487 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 4: to deny it? 488 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, then no, don't accept me. 489 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 3: You Actually he's better. 490 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: Yes, you act like a woman when we say nice 491 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: top and the guy got it on sale. 492 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 3: Yeah no it's not too nice. I need to iron it. 493 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 3: Yours is nicer. It's nice. 494 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: Yours is nice. 495 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 2: This whole thing, I've had it fresh, I've had it 496 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: for twenty seven years. 497 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: That's how I want you to act. 498 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: So I'm even fighting against my own default here, right, 499 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 2: because it's how we've been raised. 500 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 4: And also when you think about athletes and American athletes, 501 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 4: Lebron came out and said, like, I think I'm the 502 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 4: greatest of all time. 503 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 3: I should be the greatest of all time. 504 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 4: If any and we're talking like against Shordan yeh, because 505 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 4: he's basically gone. 506 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 3: Well, if you look at the stats and how long 507 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 3: I've played, I am better. 508 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, imagine imagine came out and said that. 509 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 4: Imagine how quickly we'd get our sickle to cut down 510 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 4: that top poppy in Australia. 511 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 3: If any athlete came out and. 512 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 4: Goes, well, I am obviously the greatest of all time, 513 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 4: we just wouldn't cop it. 514 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 3: Part of me loves that humble Australian champion that another 515 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 3: part of me goes, why can't people make hay when 516 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 3: the sun shines? That's it. 517 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 1: I think it's naive. 518 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 2: I think it's a naive notion now, to be honest, 519 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 2: And so while I don't think dismiss it completely. You 520 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 2: can still hold on to it a little bit, like 521 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 2: keep the sickle just In Holsted. Maybe keep the sickle 522 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 2: Holsted and just maybe think about the person the brand. 523 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 1: As the person. 524 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 4: The one thing I will say, and what they're trying 525 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 4: to set up is if you look at the AFL 526 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 4: over the last ten years, I would argue the biggest 527 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 4: brands post their retirement A Buddy Franklin yep and Dustin Martin. 528 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I remember Dusty with his bonds. Ad What 529 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 2: access did you get to the two of those while 530 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 2: they were playing? 531 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 1: Oh yeah nothing. They never did media. 532 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 3: They did nada. 533 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 4: They weren't selling me yopro, they weren't part of Red Bull, 534 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 4: they had no alignments. Yeah, so much so that everyone's 535 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 4: like desperate to know anything about them. 536 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 3: Whereas Christian Petruc is gone the other way. 537 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of video, there's a lot of 538 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 4: content and he's gone for that build. But as Australians 539 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 4: we like the quiet, humble one. 540 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that just. 541 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 4: Achieves, especially as members achieved for the club and will 542 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 4: buy whatever you tell us to buy. 543 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 3: Later on. 544 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 2: I think there's a very real reality and it's a 545 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 2: close reality in which Christian Petrarca's endorsement deals could far 546 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 2: outstrip his payments his AFL salary, which we're probably not 547 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: too far from that day. 548 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 4: He does have five years remaining on his contract and 549 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 4: that income will peak at one point seven million dollars yep, 550 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 4: and it's not going to fall below one point two. 551 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 4: So he ain't needed I know, in this economy and 552 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 4: cost of living, I just see he's not to bolster 553 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 4: that in order to afford a comfortable lifestyle. 554 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: I have a question without notice for you, great before 555 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 2: we get to our fun fact, which athlete in the 556 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 2: world that we live in right now? Of the athlete 557 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 2: as an influencer, a super influencer, really, which athlete would 558 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: you want repping your personal brand? 559 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 3: Jess Fox, I don't even think. I don't even have 560 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 3: to think. 561 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 4: Strow You didn't, No, that was just their bam and 562 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 4: everything about her. 563 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, drop the curly girl routine. I'm interested. 564 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 4: So I'm with you. You who's your ash party? 565 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, squimmy. 566 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: Oh, But it's just I just love everything. Obviously I'm 567 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 2: not alone in this. I love everything that she stands for. 568 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 2: And I'll let her talk about the team. Right the team, 569 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 2: the team, the team, it's it takes a village to 570 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 2: build an athlete. So I love all of that because 571 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 2: her brand, I think, I would argue, is slightly different 572 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 2: and I think that she has values that I hold 573 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,719 Speaker 2: very high as well. So I would love that Ash 574 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: come on board to good sports. 575 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 4: So when we frame this whole thing, we've established that 576 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 4: a lot of athletes and a lot of famous people, 577 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 4: for a very long period of time, have made the 578 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 4: majority of their money not from their craft, but from 579 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 4: the way they leverage their brand to support other brands 580 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 4: and get paid very handsomely to do. So that ain't new. 581 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 4: What is potentially new for the AFL and something and 582 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 4: NRL and something that Australian codes are going to have 583 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 4: to get their head around is that Australian athletes are 584 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 4: watching these and getting offers from companies like Red Bull 585 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 4: to build their brands and to think about life beyond 586 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 4: football and finding that very appealing and that's something that's 587 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 4: going to run simultaneously with their athletic career. Do we 588 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 4: the fans get the right to go I don't like 589 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 4: that and is that called for? 590 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: I think we have the right to say it, but 591 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: it doesn't have any impact. 592 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 3: So this is just going to become the way forward. 593 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah, I honestly do. I honestly do, 594 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: because if you want your club to survive, if you 595 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 2: want a club to support, they have to look at 596 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 2: these options a lot of the times. And then if 597 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: they choose a path that you don't like, that's on 598 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 2: you as a fan then to be like, Okay, well 599 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 2: maybe I'm not I need to take a step back, 600 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 2: maybe I'll follow someone else. 601 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 4: And the athlete just needs to wear the criticism that 602 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 4: will come if their form in any way waivers. 603 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the Those are the high stakes games. I 604 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: think that in this modern sporting landscape, that's what you're 605 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 2: playing for. 606 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 4: Do you expect the needle to shift in terms of 607 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 4: Australian audiences and how critical we are of this? 608 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I would love it too. 609 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: I would love it too. 610 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 2: But I think that it's always going to be the 611 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 2: louder voice of why the hell do you want that 612 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 2: stay in your lane? 613 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 4: And is that potentially louder for athletes like Christian where 614 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 4: we can publicly look at the fact that he's going 615 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 4: to be on one point seven as opposed to Arion Tiitmas, 616 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 4: who was on everything leading in to the Paris Games, 617 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 4: Like we just found out that she slept on a 618 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 4: temper mattress. Yes, she's been endorsing brands till the cows 619 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 4: come home and we go get it, girl, because you've 620 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 4: got one shot in four years to actually make a 621 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 4: living out of this. 622 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 3: Is there a difference between that. 623 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 2: I think for people and their concept and their understanding 624 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 2: of it, there is, but they shouldn't be necessarily. People 625 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 2: are able to separate it, and I'm not sure if 626 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 2: that's a gendered thing right now. I don't know if 627 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 2: it's because of the differences in their sports and how 628 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 2: their pay structures work, but people can separate it. 629 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 4: I would also argue it's generational, yeah, totally, Oh totally, 630 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 4: and a lack of understanding between the fact that social 631 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 4: media is the new Nike footwear and that this is 632 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 4: a platform that you can professionally leverage and it's not 633 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 4: trivial and. 634 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: It lives rent free in our minds. 635 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 3: Or rent free in our hands. 636 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 4: At the first thing we do when we wake up 637 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 4: and the last thing we do when we go to sleep, 638 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 4: we wwis track all the best and we're going to 639 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 4: watch this space to find out. Actually, I think we're 640 00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 4: all waiting with beta breath to find out what he's 641 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 4: gonna say, what's gonna happen? And is he going to 642 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 4: be a demon next year? You're gonna make it? What 643 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 4: do you think? 644 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 2: I don't think so, really yeah, I don't think he 645 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 2: will be. For him to stay there, there needs to 646 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 2: be a whole lot of bridges built with the actual 647 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 2: playing stuff and the coaching cohort and it, and for 648 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 2: Track himself like that's that's both ways. 649 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: So everyone's going to have to give. 650 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,959 Speaker 2: And I don't know if people, all of the players 651 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 2: within this story, I don't know if they will. 652 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 4: I think he'll still be there, given that Craig mccraye 653 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 4: has been on the record being like we love Christian Petrucker. 654 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 4: Have you seen our draft cand we don't have the 655 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 4: royal flush it would take for that trade to go through. 656 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 4: So that's Collingwood, who he's supported as a kid Track 657 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 4: so that he's not he's not gone there. 658 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 3: And then the other big club is Carlton. 659 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: I can see him in Carlton in the trade with 660 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: Harry mackay, but. 661 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 4: Then Harry's management and the club have come out and 662 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 4: been like, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, don't go wrong, Like 663 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 4: nothing's been spoken about yet. 664 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 2: I'm just saying as someone who doesn't really understand the 665 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 2: AFL trade period because the NRL doesn't have a comparison. 666 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: It's so fun, it's but this has given me great 667 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 2: interest because I don't care about pick thirty six for 668 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 2: the second round of the fourth round of the twelfth divided. 669 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: All the time you do, but now I care. Yeah, 670 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: watch this space, Jemmy, Time for a fun fact. 671 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 3: I love a fun fact, and our. 672 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: Fun fact is very demure, very mindful. 673 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 4: Oh god, just when you thought you were safe from that, 674 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 4: has that phrase just been everywhere? 675 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: Oh everywhere? 676 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: My inbox? Yeah, yeah, it's. 677 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 4: Flooded with subject line very demure, and I'm like, what, 678 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 4: can't leave me alone? 679 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 3: Don't TikTok? 680 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 2: I would argue the only thing that may have flooded 681 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: your inbox more than that is the term brat, and 682 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 2: our fun fact involves both of them. 683 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 4: The brad Greg Kamala Halla Harris has decided to make 684 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 4: part of her brand as well. 685 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 2: Did you know that the U You know that the 686 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 2: US Open, you know, famously a tennis tournament, actually is 687 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 2: a fashion catwalk. It's a runway show because Naomi yasaka 688 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 2: my god, has she answered all of my hopes, wants 689 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 2: and dreams with the outfit that she rocked out in 690 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 2: this week? 691 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 692 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 2: It is in a collaboration with Nike, who she's been 693 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: with for many, many years, and a fashion designer called 694 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 2: yun Ahn. And if you have not seen this on 695 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 2: your socials, you don't have socials, no, because it is 696 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 2: the most fabulous outfit in the Brat Green Charlie XCX 697 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: must be getting involved in here somewhere. 698 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 4: For those of you playing at home that don't know 699 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 4: what Bratt Green is, it's also tennis ball green. It 700 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 4: is if you want something, it's it's fluorescent ch truce, which. 701 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: Makes it sound less cool. I'm not gonna lie. I'm 702 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: not gonna lie. People are like, oh my god, is 703 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: that Bratt Green. 704 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, it's kind of chatruce, but yeah, okay, 705 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 2: here we go, Here we go. And basically why I 706 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 2: love it so much is that it ties so nicely 707 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 2: into our main discussion this week, Because have I been 708 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 2: following everything that's going on in the tennis landscape in 709 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: this tournament not necessarily Can I tell you every single 710 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 2: detail of that woman's outfit? 711 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 3: Yes, my bloody can. 712 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 4: The reason yes I can, it's made so many headlines 713 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 4: is it is ridiculous. Oh my goodness, it is ridiculous 714 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 4: to think that someone would play tennis in there. There 715 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 4: is an enormous lime green bow. 716 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: She's turned into the met Gala. 717 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 3: She's turned it into the met Gala. 718 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: The costume change. 719 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 3: There are bows on her nikes. 720 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: Yes, what did you say about the shoes? 721 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 4: I want them, but not to play tennis, to walk 722 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 4: around it in general life. 723 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: It's working. Her influence is at play. 724 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 4: Oh and I'm playing Devil's advocate here and it might 725 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 4: be showing my age I. 726 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 3: Have aged since we last. 727 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 4: Part of Me goes. This isn't a Mickey Mouse tournament. No, 728 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 4: it's the US Open. 729 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 3: Maybe focus on the sport. 730 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: It's fun. 731 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: It is focusing on the sport, because do you know 732 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 2: what I used to love about watching Serena Williams and 733 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 2: Venus Williams. Part of it, genuinely and Maria Sharapover genuinely 734 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 2: was to see them at court doing their job, but 735 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 2: was also to see what they're wearing. Like, honestly, I 736 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: would look forward to that. I wanted to see what 737 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 2: collaboration they had come up with. 738 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 4: But my argument would be, and I don't know if 739 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 4: you feel this about work, because you and I have 740 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 4: people that put together wardrobes for us, yes, stylas at work. 741 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 4: If there was a button I could press that I 742 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 4: wore a polo every day and I didn't have to 743 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 4: think about it. 744 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: Sorry, Johnny, that's the man button. I think it is there. 745 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: I think it is there. 746 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 4: I believe that's the Carl Stefanovi for the entire year button. 747 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 4: I would press that because it's one less thing that 748 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 4: you have to think about and you can just focus 749 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 4: on your job. 750 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,959 Speaker 3: And I love fashion more than the next person you do. 751 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 3: I love it. Met Gala's my super Bowl. I own that. 752 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 4: But I also think when you are there to perform, 753 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 4: having to worry that there might be someone else in 754 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 4: blue and that you'll get told off for that is 755 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 4: not where my head's at. 756 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 3: I just want to do my job. 757 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 2: Do you think, though, because I would say that this 758 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 2: outfit and the costume change and the whole theatrics of 759 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 2: it actually helps. Naomia Saka because famously doesn't love press, 760 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 2: doesn't love the attention. 761 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: Doesn't like having to do all of that. 762 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 2: This allows her to show her personality in a way 763 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,479 Speaker 2: that her words don't. 764 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 3: Is this her nor lyles warm up? 765 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it could be. I really think it 766 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: could be. 767 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,720 Speaker 2: And it's also part of her bringing that Japanese culture 768 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 2: into her game as well and into her brand. 769 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 4: And shall we say, building a personal brand, building a 770 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,240 Speaker 4: personal brand. 771 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 1: I love it. 772 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 2: It's brat, it's demure, it's somehow both of those things 773 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,760 Speaker 2: which seem that they are competing. 774 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 1: But here we are. 775 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 4: You've never sounded younger than me. But thank you for 776 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,240 Speaker 4: listening to do good sports. 777 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 3: It is sports news sold differently with one of us 778 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 3: that TikTok's. 779 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,479 Speaker 4: And another one who certainly does not. And I own 780 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 4: that and that is fine, but please do. 781 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 3: Follow us at two good sports podcasts. 782 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 4: Also give us your feedback on this one, because we're 783 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 4: way off. 784 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think about track? What do you 785 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 2: think about where we're at with this whole situation? 786 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 4: Now? Are we okay with players leveraging their brand to 787 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 4: clearly try to build the life for themselves outside the game, 788 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 4: or should they just play the sport. 789 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 3: Until then? 790 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: Be a good sport