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Speaker 1: When it comes to parenting, there is simply never a

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Speaker 1: dull moment. Have you noticed that when kids are around,

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Speaker 1: it's on, there's stuff happening. This is the podcast where

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Speaker 1: we dissect what's going on in our families and do

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Speaker 1: our best to make family life better so that we

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Speaker 1: Could they Welcome to the Happy Families podcast Real Parenting

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Speaker 1: Solutions every Day. It's Australia's most downloaded parenting podcast where

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Speaker 1: Justin and Kylie Colson. Kylie, quiet week for you, not

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Speaker 1: much going on, everything relaxed.

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Speaker 2: You're hilarious. I don't know where you've been, clearly not

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Speaker 2: at home.

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Speaker 1: Five kids at home at the moment and I know four.

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Speaker 1: much quieter when there's only four instead of so much

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Speaker 1: five or six. Kicking off today, this is our old

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Speaker 1: do Better Tomorrow episode If You Knew to the Pot.

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Speaker 1: Every Friday we reflect on the week that was, look

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Speaker 1: at what went well or what didn't so that we

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Speaker 1: can be better parents. And I want to share this

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Speaker 1: from one of our employees. Very rare we get the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to feature one of our key staff on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: But my staff actually implement the stuff that we talk about,

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Speaker 1: Like they listen to the pod, and they read the books,

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Speaker 1: and they are engaged with the social media, and they

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Speaker 1: see the stuff that I write, and sometimes they try it.

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Speaker 1: And this is what Mim told me when she tried

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Speaker 1: to implement some things that we talked about on a

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Speaker 3: Hi, Justin and Kylie, it's Mim here. Back in January,

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Speaker 3: I listened to Your Doctor's Desk episode on sleep and

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Speaker 3: day could set the tone for the entire day. Intrigued,

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Speaker 3: I decided to give it a shot. A little backstory.

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Speaker 3: There are three things you should know about me. Firstly,

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Speaker 3: I am not a mover. I don't like walking, exercising,

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Speaker 3: you ever see me running, trust me, you should run too,

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Speaker 3: because as there are probably zombies behind me. Number two,

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Speaker 3: mornings in our house are pure chaos. I go to

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Speaker 3: School mornings often feel overwhelming, especially with one child who

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Speaker 3: sometimes refuses to go to school hello high emotions, and

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Speaker 3: The school bus stops right outside our house, and while

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Speaker 3: episode on Sleep, I took the plunge. When my husband

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Speaker 3: got up at six am for work, I got up too,

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Speaker 3: Instead of meeting their morning grumpiness with my own, I

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Speaker 3: And here's the crazy part. I have been jumping out

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Speaker 2: You're starting a new routine like that. So the fact

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Speaker 1: Of course, you've got to go to bed on time,

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Speaker 1: So mim so glad that you shared that with us,

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Speaker 2: I've had a couple of beautiful wins with our kids

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Speaker 2: this week. Yeah great, last week I shared that with you.

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Speaker 2: desirous than usual to let go of all of that distraction,

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Speaker 2: And I've loved it. I've absolutely loved it.

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Speaker 1: So many take our messages. When I listen to what

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Speaker 1: But there's something about making that connection. There's something about

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Speaker 1: the Sunshine Coast. It was a big conference for Queensland

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Speaker 1: Foster and Kinship Cares. Five hundred people in the room

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Speaker 1: and ambassadors and government ministers and all that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: Several of them said that they were quite pleased to

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Speaker 1: not have to go and do all the polling stuff

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Speaker 1: on election day because they got to sit in a

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Speaker 1: conference and listen to me talk instead of being out

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Speaker 1: there eating sausages and Lamington's. I don't know if they

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Speaker 1: were being polite or if they really meant it, but anyway,

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Speaker 1: it was just wonderful to be with a room of

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Speaker 1: people who care so much about kids that they're not

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Speaker 1: just looking after their own biological children, but they're sacrificing

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Speaker 1: their time, their effort to help other people's children to

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Speaker 1: navigate what can sometimes be a really hard and even

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Speaker 1: a traumatic life. But my favorite part of the day,

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Speaker 1: as much as I loved giving that talk, was being

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Speaker 1: able to drive fifteen minutes home which felt really good

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Speaker 1: because normally I'm on aeroplanes and that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: And I walked into the kitchen. You were in the

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Speaker 1: kitchen with one of the kids. You've been out and

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Speaker 1: done the shopping. You'd been to the farmer's market that morning,

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Speaker 1: just to try something different, and you'd bought all the

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Speaker 1: fresh fruit and veggies. And I've come into the kitchen

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Speaker 1: and you're there. You're chatting with our daughter. Then I'm

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Speaker 1: there and all the fruit and veggies bit by bit

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Speaker 1: getting put away, we're cleaning up the kitchen. We've got

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Speaker 1: some music on and we're just enjoying. And then one

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Speaker 1: of our other kids came in and it felt like

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if we've ever had a

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Speaker 1: Saturday like it. If we have, it's been a long

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Speaker 1: time where we were all hanging out in the kitchen

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Speaker 1: doing a couple of basics that need to be done,

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Speaker 1: but really just enjoying one another's company and feeling relaxed.

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Speaker 1: And I just thought, this, this is how it's supposed

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Speaker 1: to be, right, Like, this is how family life is

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Speaker 1: supposed to be. Where we're not pushed from pillar to post,

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Speaker 1: we're not trying to be efficient and effective at all times,

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Speaker 1: but rather we're just being in the moment doing basic,

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Speaker 1: simple things, Kylie, it just felt good.

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Speaker 2: A number of years ago I brought this beautiful home

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Speaker 2: daycore piece and it was literally a hand painted wooden

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Speaker 2: sign that said the gathering Place. And as the morning unfolded,

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Speaker 2: what occurred to me was that when we create the

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Speaker 2: right environment, our children actually flocked to us like bees

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Speaker 2: to honey. Like it was just when when we've got

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Speaker 2: time and we're not hurried and we're not rushed, watching

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Speaker 2: each of the kids just kind of meander into our

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Speaker 2: space and start conversations that were just and there was

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Speaker 2: no there was no weight to any of it, but

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Speaker 2: they just wanted to be there and they didn't want

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Speaker 2: to go. And it was beautiful. It was absolutely beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it made my weekend. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what else to say other than to say that it

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Speaker 1: was perfect. It's what a happy family is supposed to be, right,

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Speaker 1: everyone hanging out in the kitchen and enjoying one of

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Speaker 1: this's company, bit of music in the background, good healthy

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Speaker 1: food on the table.

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Speaker 2: It just felt so did that Basil smell.

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Speaker 1: I just love the whole lot. Anyway, There our take

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Speaker 1: our messages and fundamentally, it all comes back to one thing.

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Speaker 1: Kidspell love t Im, kids fell love t Im. And

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Speaker 1: the more we can slow it down, the more that

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Speaker 1: we can breathe and just have the space to be together,

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Speaker 1: the happier our families feel. Slow it down.

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Speaker 2: When you think about how we opened this and shared

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Speaker 2: MEM's experience, Yeah, this is just a beautiful reality that

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Speaker 2: the more time we can give ourselves to be the

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Speaker 2: people we want to be, the happier our families are.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely love it. We really hope that this gives you

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Speaker 1: some inspo for the weekend. Hopefully you can, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: go to the farmer's market tomorrow morning and shop and

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Speaker 1: fill your fridge with green, healthy, abundant, life giving food

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Speaker 1: and food is medicine. Food is medicine and spend time

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Speaker 1: with the kids. Slow it down for the weekend, have

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Speaker 1: a wonderful weekend, and thank you so much for choosing

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Speaker 1: to spend your time with us. We're so grateful that

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Speaker 1: you do. The Happy Famili's podcast is produced by Justin

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Speaker 1: Rouland from Bridge Media. If you'd like more info and

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Speaker 1: more resources that will make your family happier, you'll find

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Speaker 1: them at Happy families, dot com, dot au,