Speaker 1: Today, Matt, we have a very special guest for Three
Speaker 1: Doting Dads.
Speaker 2: It is Nick Cody.
Speaker 1: He is a comedian recognized internationally. He's appeared on the
Speaker 1: Conan O'Brien show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was. I think it was the fourth ever
Speaker 3: Australian to appear on the show, which is a huge feeder.
Speaker 3: Was a few years ago. And I fucking love Conan O'Brien.
Speaker 2: I like his hair moves when he talks.
Speaker 3: He is absolutely hilarious and he's a great bloke as well.
Speaker 3: If you're not familiar with his stuff, I highly recommend
Speaker 3: you check out his YouTube special. It's called Live at
Speaker 3: the Corner Hotel. Will put the link in the show
Speaker 3: notes as well and also put that up on Stories
Speaker 3: and Two Doting Dads Very funny.
Speaker 1: Yes, he's also one of the hosts of the Morning
Speaker 1: Breakfast Show with Fifi, Fev and Nick.
Speaker 3: And now he is a dad. If he wasn't, it
Speaker 3: would be awkward.
Speaker 2: It would be weird. We just said three doting dads.
Speaker 3: Married to his beautiful wife Lucia, he has two boys,
Speaker 3: they are five and two. And I just want to say,
Speaker 3: I know we mentioned it before. He's a comedian, but
Speaker 3: he is bloody.
Speaker 1: Hilarious and he's lovely, lovely to have here, and we
Speaker 1: had a great old chat.
Speaker 4: So enjoy.
Speaker 3: Welcome back to three doting dads.
Speaker 2: I am Maddie, Jay, I'm Ash and I'm Nick Curti.
Speaker 3: This is a podcast that's all about parenting.
Speaker 2: It's the good, the bad, and the relatable.
Speaker 3: Now, for legal reasons, we do have to say that
Speaker 3: there is never any advice given on this podcast. However,
Speaker 3: this episode will be a little bit different because we
Speaker 3: have the pleasure of being joined by another dad who
Speaker 3: I would say, is it better dad than us?
Speaker 1: They're all better than us, man, It's not hard. It's
Speaker 1: subjective though, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, being a good dad.
Speaker 3: It's a pleasure to have you here.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: Before I ask about your parenting, I do want to
Speaker 3: ask you something else on dad related. What's Conan O'Brien like?
Speaker 2: Super friendly and a lot warmer than he had to be? Wow? Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's good.
Speaker 3: How did that come about? So anyone who doesn't know
Speaker 3: you were the fourth ever Puzzy to be on his show?
Speaker 3: How did that come about?
Speaker 2: I did the Edinburgh Fringe Festival in twenty fifteen twenty
Speaker 2: sixteen twenty seventeen. But in twenty sixteen, Booker JP came
Speaker 2: along to my show how Refringe Yeah, and then got
Speaker 2: the call up. That's a huge that's huge, Yeah, because
Speaker 2: Matt's a really big fan of Conan. It's the best.
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 2: I love watching back. I should have done. There were
Speaker 2: like five other bits I should have done. My spot
Speaker 2: was all right, could have been better, you.
Speaker 3: Know, the hometown, the small town yeah, good gear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was still cop shit about that from
Speaker 2: people from small towns. But it's I actually love small town.
Speaker 2: It's like you make fun of the thing you love,
Speaker 2: You make one of the things like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: liked small kids.
Speaker 3: Anyone who's not familiar. Yeah, there's the reason why they're
Speaker 3: small town.
Speaker 2: Ye. If small towns were good, they would have gotten bigger.
Speaker 2: That's really you know, yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 1: Small town shut up, relaxed, soaked, and so we made
Speaker 1: fun of rural doctors ones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking hell. People were just.
Speaker 1: Like there was like that were heroes.
Speaker 2: Remember, they were just like we.
Speaker 3: Called them vets. I think, yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2: I told them they're just like vets.
Speaker 1: You got to see you got to see a goat
Speaker 1: a child and a pig after it, and.
Speaker 3: Those people are like, I might just give two doting
Speaker 3: dads one last try.
Speaker 2: Town. I got heaps for that.
Speaker 3: JP was the booker. Yeah, and so after the gig,
Speaker 3: did you just say, hey, let's.
Speaker 2: Well night before the gig. You're in the dressing room
Speaker 2: and I had my manager there, my mate Max Price,
Speaker 2: who's a comedian who was living in LA at the time,
Speaker 2: and they were like, you can bring another person if
Speaker 2: you're And I'd been back and forth to the States
Speaker 2: over sort of three years leading up to that, and
Speaker 2: I thought, there's one bloke I'm going to invite because
Speaker 2: I see him every time I go, and each time
Speaker 2: I go the gigs have gotten better. And it was
Speaker 2: a bartender from a dive bar around Yeah, and so
Speaker 2: it didn't perform. Yeah, it was from this shitty bar
Speaker 2: I used to go to. It's closed down now and
Speaker 2: every time i'd go to l A, I'd go to
Speaker 2: this bar shithole, and each time it turned up. He's like,
Speaker 2: holy ship Australian's back when this time and these time
Speaker 2: the gigs had gotten better. So that time I rolled
Speaker 2: in and went doing Conan on Tuesday. You want to come?
Speaker 2: He's like fucking yes, ringing the bells. I was sick.
Speaker 2: Probably poor preparation for a large gig, but I went
Speaker 2: to the first La Rams game when they were back
Speaker 2: in La. The game, it was like thirty two degrees
Speaker 2: middle of the day. She did this before, Yeah, this game.
Speaker 2: So I flew with left Australia on a Sunday, arrived
Speaker 2: there Sunday morning, pick up my mate Max Price. Go
Speaker 2: to the football scorching sun middle of the day, just
Speaker 2: drinking beers. Oh my gosh, drunk sunburn issues with this
Speaker 2: crap sounds exactly like something. Yeah, yeah, red hot chili
Speaker 2: beppers played it. Picked up the bartender told him we're
Speaker 2: doing Conan on Tuesdays and then before they get you
Speaker 2: get there a few hours before they film sort of
Speaker 2: four o'clock in the afternoon around there. And one of
Speaker 2: the other guests on that day was Marshall Lynch. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you're American football name. His nickname is
Speaker 2: beast Mode. So played for Seattle Seahawks and I want
Speaker 2: to say the Raiders for a little bit. But gun
Speaker 2: Gun football player and his touchdown running a playoff game Seattle.
Speaker 2: The crowd got so loud that it registered on the
Speaker 2: Richter Scar run. He was on I Love American Football
Speaker 2: and played American football and Melbourne growing up. And I
Speaker 2: was chatting to him for a bit and then Conan
Speaker 2: came out and like, I just remember shirt, his shirt
Speaker 2: was on, no tie, slacks and he was in socks.
Speaker 2: He wasn't in shoes yet. He's like Marshall and Marshallan
Speaker 2: turns around and he like pretends to throw a kick
Speaker 2: at him, and then Marshall AND's like fake fight, and
Speaker 2: I'm just sitting there like what the.
Speaker 3: Do I John?
Speaker 2: But it was just one of those it's just sitting anything. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just surreal, like what a weird.
Speaker 1: Like the sequence of events, like just to be on
Speaker 1: Conan and then you're with like yeah, Marshall.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like all the late night show hosts
Speaker 3: all get a bad rap at the moment. Everyone's kind
Speaker 3: of everyone saying they're actually.
Speaker 2: They're all credators.
Speaker 3: Apparently the only one who everyone kind of says is.
Speaker 4: For now.
Speaker 1: I've got another sad story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, bring him back down. And then Marshall when he
Speaker 2: had like two security guards with him, just like he's
Speaker 2: already a big unit. These guys were like six foot
Speaker 2: just huge launch, just showing nothing, and there was like
Speaker 2: a big catering table and the guys are walking around
Speaker 2: having a look at the catering table. And then this
Speaker 2: giant who's just given no one anything for half an
Speaker 2: hour turns around and goes this motherfucker's got a cupcake mountain,
Speaker 2: and was like pumped up real life, it's just what
Speaker 2: is happening around the back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a chat yesterday and before this record, obviously,
Speaker 3: and one of the biggest surprises I think about you
Speaker 3: is maybe because you're like a quintessential Aussie bloke, you
Speaker 3: don't seem like someone who would have had a career
Speaker 3: as a nanny.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we were shocked. I was not expecting your
Speaker 2: career is a stretcher. Was three four months in would
Speaker 2: have been.
Speaker 1: You would have made a past probation period.
Speaker 2: So yeah, career. I was eighteen and I got a
Speaker 2: job with a family who the husband and wife for
Speaker 2: actors for the Australian Shakespeare Company and they were going
Speaker 2: on tour and they had two boys who were ten
Speaker 2: and two at the time, and you were eighteen, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: my girlfriend at the time, her friends are family friends
Speaker 2: or something, and they said Hey, Nick's having a gap
Speaker 2: year after high school. Would he be interested in coming
Speaker 2: on tour around Australia with the Australian Shakespeare Company and
Speaker 2: looking after the boys.
Speaker 3: Working anywhere at that time? Or we're going.
Speaker 2: To look at yeah. Just my mum was a receptionist
Speaker 2: at a law firm in Melbourne for years, so i'd
Speaker 2: work in you were practicing law, Yeah, was practicing law.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I'll love for an interview because
Speaker 2: I knew they were interviewing a few different people. But
Speaker 2: the boys, I think they had a female nanny and
Speaker 2: then they had their auntie or something look after him
Speaker 2: on the last two trips. So like an eighteen year
Speaker 2: old dude rolls in and the ten year old's like
Speaker 2: this fucking rules.
Speaker 1: He just walked in with your testosteronie. Yeah, that's him.
Speaker 3: Do you remember what they asked you for the interview?
Speaker 2: Well? I remember I asked a ten year old. I
Speaker 2: was like, man, what do you what are you like?
Speaker 2: And he's like PlayStation and footy and I'm like sick,
Speaker 2: my boy, it's going to be And then the two
Speaker 2: year old they gave me like a trial day or
Speaker 2: he was about to turn two, maybe and they said
Speaker 2: he goes for a nap, but one wake up between
Speaker 2: two thirty and three, and so I'm like, yeah, no worries.
Speaker 2: And they leave to go and do rehearsals for the day.
Speaker 2: And it gets to like twelve thirty, quarter to one.
Speaker 2: I remember the little kid. I'm like, hey, man, come on,
Speaker 2: it's time for a nap. He's like, nah, Mick, you
Speaker 2: always call me Mick, Mick. No, no nap, I need nap.
Speaker 2: I'm like, cool, brother, map had no idea.
Speaker 1: Now that I've got two kids on my lying, you
Speaker 1: look back and then you go, oh man.
Speaker 2: Because at like six o'clock they've come home at quarter
Speaker 2: past six and it's six o'clock. This kid has just
Speaker 2: gone just exploded, And I'm like, what has happened? What
Speaker 2: has happened? This kid was such a legend. Why is
Speaker 2: he melting? And then his parents come in and they're like,
Speaker 2: how was it? Okay? It was pretty good until fifteen
Speaker 2: minutes ago. I don't know what he had a good nap.
Speaker 2: They said that was the nap. But I'm like, dad
Speaker 2: didn't have one. He said he didn't need one.
Speaker 3: They're like, he definitely needs he naps aside was it
Speaker 3: pretty easy overall, or was it a huge learning curve
Speaker 3: to be thrust into the world of eighteen.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, my dad told me to take the job
Speaker 2: so that it would show me how hard it is
Speaker 2: to have kids, and so I wouldn't ear you off immediately.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do a big western suburbs of Melbourne thing,
Speaker 2: and that is get a chick pregnant when you're nineteen,
Speaker 2: and so he goes, that'll blast you through that side. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're not going to want to he's pretty good.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Did did it work?
Speaker 2: Yeah, hundred percent. I didn't have a kid until I
Speaker 2: was thirty one. Life out of you Yeah, sick like
Speaker 2: I've got to travel see all these four parts of Australia.
Speaker 2: It was all through the Northern Territory and play PlayStation
Speaker 2: with the with the ten year old was like a
Speaker 2: road trip. It was in like a tour bus. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Do you remember with any other I don't. I don't
Speaker 3: want to also like put you in the ship here,
Speaker 3: but without any of the mistakes that you made aside
Speaker 3: from the naps.
Speaker 2: I remember one day, which I know it's bad at
Speaker 2: the time, but I now use it for my kids,
Speaker 2: and that was the little one. We're at a pool
Speaker 2: and maybe Darwin or Cans or something at the hotel.
Speaker 2: And he didn't have floaties on. And it was the
Speaker 2: kid's pool, but at the very far end of the
Speaker 2: kids pool it gets the normal size and he was
Speaker 2: just sitting there in the tiny bit of water. Fine,
Speaker 2: keep an eye on him. He's fine. He gets up,
Speaker 2: comes around and he said, jump in. I jump in
Speaker 2: big pool. I wouldn't do it. Don't jump in the
Speaker 2: big pool. He's like, I'm big, I'm jumping in.
Speaker 4: And then.
Speaker 2: Underneath the counter. Three. Yeah. Now with my two boys
Speaker 2: occasionally they're like, I'm going to do this over all, right,
Speaker 2: have a crack to see what happened. That's actually good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my son is still in float He can swim,
Speaker 1: but he's still in floats for reassuring. And like he
Speaker 1: took him off and then he forgot that he'd taken
Speaker 1: him off and just ran and the.
Speaker 3: Issue with floating, and we're all.
Speaker 2: There's a kid at bottom of the pool. But he
Speaker 2: won't do it again. That's for sure. It is.
Speaker 3: And then after that three month stint, you then carried on.
Speaker 3: You've extended your career of nannying. Knowledge of parenting, you've
Speaker 3: gone international.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was something who was scouted the top nannies
Speaker 2: from around the world. I was at UNI. I went
Speaker 2: to UNI for six months, so I did this is grim.
Speaker 2: So I was eighteen. I thought I was going to
Speaker 2: be an athlete. I was like, didn't we have decently?
Speaker 2: I still do, honestly. I think I'm six weeks after cancer.
Speaker 1: That's why we all wear jerseys to the game, just
Speaker 1: in case they're like you, yeah, you're on.
Speaker 2: You're like, I'm ready. I was eighteen. I got drunk
Speaker 2: one day and I watched Jerry Maguire and I was like, sick, job.
Speaker 2: If I can't be an athlete, sick I'll be a
Speaker 2: player agent and signed up to Bachelor of Business Sports Management,
Speaker 2: nice and then turned up. I was like, fucking, this
Speaker 2: is not fun. I did not like this at all.
Speaker 3: But nothing like the movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah. One of the teachers, she was a camp counselor
Speaker 2: at this summer camp in Oregon like ten years before
Speaker 2: or something, and they were looking for a few Aussies
Speaker 2: to go to be camp counselors there and like just
Speaker 2: love the States, always wanted to go, and she's would
Speaker 2: anyone be keen? I was like, oh, I used to
Speaker 2: be a nanny and I was working at a bar
Speaker 2: at the time, and yeah, I did all the interviews
Speaker 2: and everything got the all clear. It was just very clear.
Speaker 2: You can earn eighty six cents an hour. It's something
Speaker 2: insane when they spread it over the amount of time
Speaker 2: you make, like twelve hundred at the time, it was
Speaker 2: twelve hundred US eight weeks.
Speaker 3: Which sounds okay when when you're at a time.
Speaker 2: When you, yeah, a nineteen year old kid, twelve hundred
Speaker 2: US dollars is like, well, I'm actually set for life
Speaker 2: when you convert that.
Speaker 1: If you did it these days, it actually would be
Speaker 1: set for live, would you?
Speaker 2: With the ship's bad.
Speaker 3: I'm going to sound really naive here, but are the
Speaker 3: summer camps for naughty kids in America?
Speaker 2: Or is it just no? So what I've learned is
Speaker 2: there seems to be two times. There's the summer camps
Speaker 2: where it's fucking Jack Nicholson's kid is coming in on
Speaker 2: a helicopter and if you tell a kid no, they're like,
Speaker 2: well I'll sue you. Yeah, Jack Nicholson. Yeah. And it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, is there're no iPhone charges in this fucking joint,
Speaker 2: you know, just on off, sound like my kids. But
Speaker 2: then there's the one I worked out, which is like
Speaker 2: an YMCA camp, and that was more middle class, lower class.
Speaker 2: Occasionally you get some naughty kids in there, but I
Speaker 2: like it was awesome. It was the worst thing. You
Speaker 2: get him for a week. So you get him from
Speaker 2: Sunday midday until Saturday midday, so six full days. I
Speaker 2: was in charge of a cabin, so I'd have seven
Speaker 2: or eight kids in the cabin and each week you'd
Speaker 2: get a different age group and parents would drop their
Speaker 2: kids off. And yeah, so my son Steve is on
Speaker 2: he's on like eight different ritilants for different things and wow,
Speaker 2: yeah he's on a lot of meds AND's we don't
Speaker 2: think it's great for him. So this week he's just
Speaker 2: not going to have any meds. Cool experiment, not to
Speaker 2: be a part of Yeah, yeah, oh my god, like
Speaker 2: Steve gets night, I really want to wean him off.
Speaker 1: But anyway, we're just going to leave you with none
Speaker 1: of them, and we could go.
Speaker 3: I did that actually actually happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd get the odd kind of prep.
Speaker 3: Do you get as a nineteen year old.
Speaker 2: Just face it helps to like I think that sort
Speaker 2: of stuff helps you to be a parent one day.
Speaker 2: Just a fucking game face.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're freaking out. If you're freaking out, the
Speaker 1: kids senses it. But if you're like, nothing worse. I've
Speaker 1: like sent a dad away from a park before because
Speaker 1: a kid fell off something and everyone went, You're like, hey, buddy,
Speaker 1: and this dad went oh, and then the kid locked
Speaker 1: under that, and I'm like, you got to go, man, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Bring that fucking attitude to this. I remember bringing it's
Speaker 2: all down somewhere. I used to work this guy.
Speaker 1: He was on the stairs with his kids and the
Speaker 1: kid fell down the stairs and I was like early
Speaker 1: twenties at this point, so I wasn't even and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, he was like you get I was like, well,
Speaker 1: he was like this is all that reaction like that
Speaker 1: would have hurt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like the kid was like no one else
Speaker 2: was reacting. Why don't my kids like that? Might just
Speaker 2: kick off?
Speaker 3: Femurs sticking through this, Yeah, yeah, walk it off. Did
Speaker 3: they give you any advice or tips of how to
Speaker 3: discipline when you're working with those kids?
Speaker 2: I was like the kids I got were fairly good,
Speaker 2: because I've been that nanny the year before just learned
Speaker 2: a few tricks. No means no, don't talk back, you know,
Speaker 2: And then you get I'm not above bashing a kid.
Speaker 2: Where I'm from, there was a lot of that back
Speaker 2: in Australia. But they talked, they got the crocodile. They
Speaker 2: got me to teach kayaking and archery because I was
Speaker 2: Australian and rugby and rugby. I'm like, guys, I'm from
Speaker 2: fucking Melbourne. Now I have no idea about any of
Speaker 2: those things. But yeah, the kids were generally pretty I
Speaker 2: do remember one day an archery teaching the kids archery
Speaker 2: and there was a kid. Two kids just wouldn't shut up.
Speaker 2: And worse, a deer has come out of the wood
Speaker 2: and just come into the archery range. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: I will drop this deer. If your kids don't be got,
Speaker 2: I will shoot a deer. My camp name was beef Jerky.
Speaker 2: You get all that, you get special names, like a
Speaker 2: camp name for beef jerky. So it's just like ten
Speaker 2: eight year olds like beef jerk. You don't know.
Speaker 1: This is how they're not knowing what's going on.
Speaker 2: No natural predators, just having a look. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: and then did you hear no, No, that's a everyone
Speaker 2: get it out of there. Yeah, that's smart.
Speaker 3: And so after that stint, is that how your parent?
Speaker 2: Now you're like, I will count this.
Speaker 3: Come out of a neighbor's house, I've got a brick
Speaker 3: walking to the park with a bow and out? After
Speaker 3: that stint, were you thinking this could be an actual
Speaker 3: career for me now? Or was it the opposite and
Speaker 3: you're going, I don't want to fucking see another kid
Speaker 3: for a long long time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it was heaps of fun. I never thought
Speaker 2: you'd get the odd overseas camp counselor who would return
Speaker 2: each year, but it's like quite a It takes a
Speaker 2: lot of work and energy just to get the visa,
Speaker 2: and you know, the US don't make it super easy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: at that point, I'd always wanted to try stand up,
Speaker 2: And then talking to some of the guys that I'm
Speaker 2: still mates with now, they're like, dude, you should, man,
Speaker 2: you've got over here to do this silly, just surely
Speaker 2: you can do some gigs. So then when I got
Speaker 2: back home, I started doing open mics and straight away
Speaker 2: yeah pretty much. Wow.
Speaker 3: Did you consider billing yourself as beef jerky or.
Speaker 2: Is it always going to be Yeah, unfortunately coming to
Speaker 2: the stage is it's Jerky's killed or threatened. It's a
Speaker 2: real cool like eighties comedy name I Reckon. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: is a good Yeah. Yeah, def Jam presents.
Speaker 3: You meet your now wife Lichi. Did you meet her
Speaker 3: working together at all?
Speaker 2: Yeah? We worked on a TV show called Kinny, a
Speaker 2: sketch Troy Kinney. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've
Speaker 2: seen some of it. Well, I haven't seen much of
Speaker 2: him lately. He's going he's on a big live to
Speaker 2: at the I can't.
Speaker 1: Stand up because, yeah, I only really known through his
Speaker 1: videos and stuff.
Speaker 2: This funny. I hope you don't find this embarrassing. I
Speaker 2: was telling my wife Letcher out doing this pod Maddy
Speaker 2: j Maddy j MA. Did she well, No, I haven't
Speaker 2: seen the bat. I did not know. I know you
Speaker 2: from this. He cries a lot in it. That's how
Speaker 2: I let me starts drumming on the k it's broken.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah I was.
Speaker 2: I didn't know. Apologies, that's very rood of it.
Speaker 1: I knows a very personal He'll be like start crying.
Speaker 2: No Rose, no, Rose. I've got a good screenshot of you,
Speaker 2: just like full cry. That's great.
Speaker 3: I didn't.
Speaker 2: That's what made some fall. Well, that's what you think.
Speaker 3: So what was the scene? Moving along? Not to focus
Speaker 3: on the bachelor.
Speaker 2: Anymore, although to traumatized whilst.
Speaker 3: We hear MoMA Mire did vote me Jake, you're doing
Speaker 3: a scene with liuch here on the team.
Speaker 2: Yes, she was just helping her friend out in the
Speaker 2: art department. So she's an actor and an ad but
Speaker 2: her mate just needed a hand on this job and
Speaker 2: she just joined as that. And then after it wrapped
Speaker 2: months later we went out there you go, was it
Speaker 2: love at first sight? Well, because I had a girlfriend
Speaker 2: at the time. Yeah, so she was the other girl.
Speaker 2: She was the other girl. Didn't happen at the time,
Speaker 2: good bloke, Just for the record, didn't happen or both
Speaker 2: at the same time.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like madd he had twenty seven different women
Speaker 1: that he could get.
Speaker 3: Didn't She didn't kill a deer?
Speaker 1: Why I'm reading between the lines over here?
Speaker 2: So many chicks here and they're recording it all. That's
Speaker 2: how I get you.
Speaker 3: One question, I think it must be the most common
Speaker 3: question that we get from listeners is how did you
Speaker 3: know you were ready to start a family? For you
Speaker 3: and le Cheer how did that conversation take place?
Speaker 2: Well, sheme on, big boy, I can I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, she yelled, filled me up.
Speaker 3: A beautiful story.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry it was she's she's super family oriented, so
Speaker 2: he really tight. She's got two younger sisters, big family
Speaker 2: events all the time. My family too, but not the
Speaker 2: same way that her family are. She always wanted kids.
Speaker 2: I never wanted care. I didn't want to get married.
Speaker 2: I had so much it's so many old cut that
Speaker 2: stand up, copy paste, copy paste. I used to have
Speaker 2: a heaps of stand up bits about never wanting to
Speaker 2: get married. Or she would laugh at Yeah, why is that?
Speaker 2: Do you think I just didn't Well, at the time,
Speaker 2: I just didn't. I just didn't want to know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was yeah, now yeah. Then you meet someone here
Speaker 2: like I could see this happening, yeah yeah yeah. And
Speaker 2: then the unluckiest that we decided all right, let's have
Speaker 2: a kid. This is end of twenty seventeen. So I
Speaker 2: used to be on the road like seven eight, nine
Speaker 2: months a year. I would always be away, and I
Speaker 2: was like, all right, we're going to try for cal
Speaker 2: try and be home or you know, you've got to
Speaker 2: oulating yes, Yes, that's an interesting time because we're going
Speaker 2: for a third and I know the tap of like
Speaker 2: this is a fun full around and I know the
Speaker 2: tap when it's the day is the day to give
Speaker 2: it your best. It's business. Yeah, I've been called out.
Speaker 2: I take it like I'm a soldier or something. Tag
Speaker 2: me in for me in Coachy boys, Ready for war.
Speaker 2: The first pregnancy test, she took, no, baby, we're a
Speaker 2: bit flat, and I was like, like, I've never done
Speaker 2: this before, never had a pregnancy test, never seen the
Speaker 2: look on someone's face when it's a no go. Fuck.
Speaker 2: What should we do? I know, let's rescue a dog.
Speaker 2: We've rescued a dog that was a Staffy cross kelpy
Speaker 2: named YOU'MI just a lunatic dog, sweetest part but just insane.
Speaker 3: And then together or did you just go straight.
Speaker 2: Picked it together? But I wanted a pure bred Staffy.
Speaker 2: I love Staffi's actual actual Staffies, even though they're built,
Speaker 2: you know, stock and they look scary, but they're the
Speaker 2: softest stock. Yeah. Whereas my wife said, you're not having that.
Speaker 2: I don't like that look of a dog. She wanted
Speaker 2: something a bit sleeker, not that fat head. She's like
Speaker 2: she just thinks I wanted a staffy because I look
Speaker 2: like just around give us a pat. She said, let's
Speaker 2: pick this one instead. It was a cross. We didn't
Speaker 2: know what the cross was until later, but it ended
Speaker 2: up being kelpy fucking crazy, insane. This stuff full of
Speaker 2: the strength of a staffy, with the energy of a Kelvy.
Speaker 2: It's just it's not necessary. Yeah, And then like a
Speaker 2: week later or something less, even another pregnancy tastes pregnant.
Speaker 4: Fuck.
Speaker 2: I went from no us responsibility ultimately you've got planned
Speaker 2: B and Plan A all in one.
Speaker 3: Did you keep the rescue dog or what happened?
Speaker 2: My first son was born towards the end of twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: And then like a month or two later, my manager
Speaker 2: asked me about breakfast radio and like doing stand up,
Speaker 2: you go in and just do little bits on radio
Speaker 2: and promote shows and whatever. But this was for like
Speaker 2: a permanent spot on a breakfast show but in Brisbane.
Speaker 2: I was like, well, I live in Melbourne, not moving,
Speaker 2: love Brisie, but I'm not moving, and they said just
Speaker 2: try it out. And when I had to try and
Speaker 2: it went it was fun, and they offered me the
Speaker 2: job and I was like, oh, I don't want to
Speaker 2: be locked in. At the time, Charlie was three months
Speaker 2: old and did not sleep through a night. There were
Speaker 2: nights where he's waking up every hour on the hour,
Speaker 2: fucking insanity. And I was like, I was used to
Speaker 2: going to bed at one, two, three in the morning,
Speaker 2: waking up whenever I want, do whatever I want. And
Speaker 2: now it's like it's your real hard Yeah. Now it's like, hey,
Speaker 2: you know how you're not sleep well at three fifty?
Speaker 2: Do you want to get up and go?
Speaker 1: You still do you still do a night radio because
Speaker 1: you're like, I mean other or night anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And even now, like I tell people, so that job,
Speaker 2: you'd have to be in there at four thirty going
Speaker 2: through stuff, have a meeting five till five thirty, You're
Speaker 2: on there five thirty till nine insane.
Speaker 3: I would say it's one of I mean, I shouldn't
Speaker 3: say one off, because I'm sure there's a lot of
Speaker 3: jobs out there that are very, very tough. But it's
Speaker 3: hard in that it's very very early and you've got
Speaker 3: this little window where you're on you're on air, and
Speaker 3: you've got to be high quick sharp.
Speaker 2: I've no good right, Like, it's a lot of coffee. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll be all right. Actually, you'd be no good.
Speaker 3: That type of negativity.
Speaker 2: How much sleep do you need tonight.
Speaker 3: Consistently? I think my limit would be like six hours. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's kind of back to back. But you can do
Speaker 3: you can do six anything lower than five as a
Speaker 3: one off. I'm struggling.
Speaker 2: I'll do for it hours, three hours, whatever. It's not
Speaker 2: a competition, mate, yes it is. Everything is. Life is
Speaker 2: a competition, Matt. I won't sleep, Yeah, I won't sleep.
Speaker 2: That's what it takes. You go to bed at eight
Speaker 2: pm and wake up at eleven pm. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: I'll do like eight till six, and then on the weekends,
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm in bet at like three am, and
Speaker 1: then I'm back up again at like six.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's rough. And you know the thing, it's like,
Speaker 2: if you have under five hours sleep, I think it's
Speaker 2: the equivalent of like four or five standard drinks. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What if I've only had five hours sleep and four
Speaker 1: or five stands drinks?
Speaker 2: So I can't slay each other out?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is that that's what I other police and they're like,
Speaker 1: you're good fighting five week Yeah?
Speaker 3: When you got this job, did lud cheer go amazing,
Speaker 3: this is great, you know, full time work. We've got
Speaker 3: a family now.
Speaker 2: You don't have to travel as much. You think it
Speaker 2: would be that, but it's more. You've just got a
Speaker 2: kid that doesn't sleep, so everything is just like what Brisbane. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's a dog gun just jumping in the backyard trying
Speaker 2: to kick possible. It's you think about it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: just it was too much. So generally for the Brisbane show,
Speaker 2: I'd go up a week a month, and then three
Speaker 2: weeks a month i'd be in Melbourne or on the
Speaker 2: doing it from on the road or whatever. And twenty nineteen,
Speaker 2: all the touring and everything for the year is locked
Speaker 2: in in sort of August September, so it was before
Speaker 2: I got the job. So all these dates, all these
Speaker 2: things are all locked in, and I'm getting up at
Speaker 2: three point fifty and the kid doesn't sleep and there's
Speaker 2: a fucking mental dog. It was just the shittest to
Speaker 2: you know, how do you can't imagine? I just blew out.
Speaker 2: There's no sleep. Coffee, coffee, so many coffees, just in
Speaker 2: survival mode. Yeah. And then at the end of twenty nineteen,
Speaker 2: I thought, you know what, I've got one year left
Speaker 2: on this contract. What I'm going to do is get COVID.
Speaker 2: The one thing no COVID was coming. I thought, what
Speaker 2: a great year. What I'll do I don't quit things,
Speaker 2: so I just won't drink. I won't drink for a year,
Speaker 2: just hard drugs. I'll see what I just math, just
Speaker 2: injected and archery. So no booze, no booze for twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: which is the worst year to not Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, that was the best year for drinking, I
Speaker 2: shouted everyone else was having at home.
Speaker 3: Did it help though? Was it making things more manageable?
Speaker 2: All it does? I don't know. Are you given much
Speaker 2: more of a vibe of heaps and heaps of he said, yeah, yeah, yeah, monster.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ash's nickname. I'm you're pretty responsibe, pretty responsible. I've
Speaker 3: always have your blow out here and there couple of
Speaker 3: beers midweek.
Speaker 2: He doesn't have a lot of body fat, so two
Speaker 2: or three beers and he's I never when he said
Speaker 2: he was also thirty six, I was fuck you.
Speaker 1: To get out of your own house. But that's how
Speaker 1: you do it.
Speaker 3: Had like an extended period of the booze.
Speaker 2: Okay, like the longest I've done like three What did
Speaker 2: I do last year? I was like four days? Not bad,
Speaker 2: that's more than hard. Yeah, that's pretty good. I take that.
Speaker 3: Pros and cons of being off the booze.
Speaker 2: With kids specifically, Yeah, it's so everyone thinks it's like
Speaker 2: you must feel amazing all the time, but it's not.
Speaker 2: It's that you never feel shit, so you wake up
Speaker 2: the best bit of your energy. It's boring though, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I remember the whole year. That's probably the worst thing,
Speaker 2: which was actually all right. You wake up in the
Speaker 2: morning and your energy is the same as at midday,
Speaker 2: six pm, ten pm. You're just on this. That sounds terrible. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's no doubt, there's no mood up. Yeah. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: like this morning. So I'm in Sydney for two nights,
Speaker 2: and last night I knew this morning I've got to
Speaker 2: get up for radio. But I'm not sleeping at home
Speaker 2: with the kids. Got a gig at the comedy store, No,
Speaker 2: absolutely not. I was having boiler makers, beers and whiskey
Speaker 2: beer whiskey. Yeah, get up before thirty, just chare, We'll
Speaker 2: walk into the studio fresh. It's good, but there's no
Speaker 2: kids punching me in the head, it's fine, but the
Speaker 2: year off, it'small that. Your energy is just level.
Speaker 3: How did you manage the sleep?
Speaker 2: I don't really with.
Speaker 1: Your first Yeah, because I was similar to and Matt's
Speaker 1: you my second one that would that would suck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you think it's worked out. Yeah, there is
Speaker 2: something nice about having one that doesn't sleep the first
Speaker 2: time around. So when the second one rolls around, yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, and then it sleeps and yeah, all right,
Speaker 2: that makes you more annoyed to the first one. Me too.
Speaker 1: My first he slept like forty minutes at a time
Speaker 1: around the clock for so long, and then the second
Speaker 1: one was a dream compared to that. She couldn't be
Speaker 1: as bad as that, So I think that was sort
Speaker 1: of like a bit of a say but when you
Speaker 1: got it the other way around, you we are so
Speaker 1: fucking good at this job parenting.
Speaker 3: And then whole sense of confidence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, shoot you down.
Speaker 3: Did you guys try and get help with the sleep
Speaker 3: or was it something that they just you bub grew
Speaker 3: out of?
Speaker 2: I still remember and my wife i't like me saying this,
Speaker 2: but we went to like a sleep I don't know,
Speaker 2: like a sleep class or something, but we're cooked like
Speaker 2: we haven't slept. Yeah, and the woman running this sleep
Speaker 2: class at some point has said something. And then there's
Speaker 2: a break and it's you got twenty minutes, go get
Speaker 2: a coffee or whatever. And as we're walking, my wife's like,
Speaker 2: I'm not doing this. I don't like this lady. And
Speaker 2: it's like, are you sure you're just not really tired,
Speaker 2: and she said something, Yeah, the lady probably said something
Speaker 2: very reasonable, and my wife's like, hate her, hate everything
Speaker 2: she's about. We're out of here, she says. I get tangry,
Speaker 2: she gets angry, she gets like hungry angry. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: she is generally pretty good on not a lot of sleep.
Speaker 2: Whereas I get I get tangry, I get tired, angry
Speaker 2: and angry. Yeah. Yeah, I just know when I'm told
Speaker 2: my wife sends me to bed now like a two
Speaker 2: year old. This it's all gone to ship and I'm
Speaker 2: quitting this. I've had enough for this. This is nonsense.
Speaker 2: And she's like, you go and have a nap. Now,
Speaker 2: I want to get your blanket. So we try to
Speaker 2: get help for the first one. The lady said something
Speaker 2: that my wife didn't agree with. We're out of there,
Speaker 2: and then just just kept going until how long until?
Speaker 2: Must have been a year in a bit. He wasn't
Speaker 2: a great sleeper. Yeah, it feels like forever though. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I've got a photo of him when we were he
Speaker 2: must have been just under one, maybe just turned one,
Speaker 2: and we're on the Gold Coast like a little family
Speaker 2: holiday and he's had a rough night sleeping and read
Speaker 2: a cafe. The next morning he's sort of standing up
Speaker 2: on a chair and he looks eighty six. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: looks like you've just shrunk an old man down the eyes.
Speaker 2: And it was just.
Speaker 1: Like he's just lived a really hard life.
Speaker 2: He's seen a lot of things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you must have been scared shitless then to go
Speaker 3: number two when number one was just like crazy time
Speaker 3: in your life with a tricky.
Speaker 2: Thing as well. Yeah, so well the second one, I
Speaker 2: always thought I'm not having one. I know. There was
Speaker 2: some article on ABC the other day about serial killers. No,
Speaker 2: it was more like, it turns out only children can
Speaker 2: be awesome, and most of them are all just can't share.
Speaker 2: Can't share it, cannot share any adult I know that's
Speaker 2: a single kid. You figure it out pretty quickly, you know,
Speaker 2: And it's actually fine, And I get if you're unable
Speaker 2: to have a second kid, I get it, get a
Speaker 2: rescue dog, that's the same. But the people that can't
Speaker 2: have it, of course, that's brutal. Not talking about that,
Speaker 2: the people that just have one, and then actually, you
Speaker 2: know what's great about one? You can focus on them more.
Speaker 2: That'd be good for them in the long run. Just
Speaker 2: say you're weaker than the bill.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not as strong as the rest of us.
Speaker 2: And there we go.
Speaker 1: When kid grows up, it's just like, it's going to
Speaker 1: think everything's about that.
Speaker 2: Look. I honestly, after the trauma of the first one,
Speaker 2: I was genuinely didn't want another one.
Speaker 3: Will just say to anyone listening who is a parent
Speaker 3: of one child, Hey, we love you, and we.
Speaker 2: Love you as much as we love rural doctors. There's
Speaker 2: a rural doctor with one kid. Yeah, yeah, they're also
Speaker 2: event It was always going to be on the cards
Speaker 2: going in for the second one. It's like, well, I'm
Speaker 2: already in. Yeah, well the night of I.
Speaker 1: Don't want to know anything about it's already in.
Speaker 2: Oh those people, I don't know how far apart you,
Speaker 2: but kids both like a couple of years apart.
Speaker 3: I think we're all pretty similar. We're eighteen months.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like two and a years apart. But those people like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I've got a one year old and two months old.
Speaker 2: Your mum had five under seven.
Speaker 3: She had three under three?
Speaker 2: Whoa on them out Irish triplets?
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was. She was a maniac. I couldn't think
Speaker 3: of anything.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. When she told me that, I nearly
Speaker 2: fell over. I was like, fuck. But that was from
Speaker 2: a time where you could hit him, which does you know, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's cheat codes. There was no social media back then.
Speaker 2: Maybe hitting kids or whatever. Let him do whatever.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming though, it was a much easier run into
Speaker 3: having two kids, given that number one was so tricky
Speaker 3: work in life was chaotic, that number two was a
Speaker 3: lot more pleasant.
Speaker 2: Well it was COVID in twenty twenty. We got an
Speaker 2: exemption in August or something to go up to Queensland
Speaker 2: because I was on Triple M in Brisbane and just
Speaker 2: that like to get out. It was like four months
Speaker 2: of lockdown in Melbourne and then get to Queensland. We
Speaker 2: had to do the two weeks of hotel quarantine with
Speaker 2: the two year old in the almost two years old,
Speaker 2: and my wife for the first kid was like no
Speaker 2: screens until they're too no screens. I don't agree, and
Speaker 2: we're doing, We're doing.
Speaker 3: I'm going to pull you up there.
Speaker 2: Two weeks hotel quarantine, like stuck in a hotel room,
Speaker 2: no screen, no screens. Oh my god, those screens that
Speaker 2: would have been we did it? Yeah, holy what did
Speaker 2: you do? Just lock it in there. The second kid,
Speaker 2: the second kid six months and I think could use
Speaker 2: a remote, both my kids swiping away d MS at
Speaker 2: six months he's on my phone.
Speaker 1: Trying to I'm getting important text messages't yeah.
Speaker 2: But got to go to Brisbane. Everything's open, everything's good
Speaker 2: to go. And then yeah, fell pregnant in Brisbane. So
Speaker 2: they came home with a little queens lay there in
Speaker 2: there beautiful.
Speaker 1: Don't say that he's a queen's yeah, right, okay, so
Speaker 1: is your second a girl?
Speaker 2: So two boys? Me crazy, Yeah, and it's a bit
Speaker 2: of fun. And the two year old he turned to
Speaker 2: a couple of months ago. But when he turned to
Speaker 2: he was eighteen kilos. Like, he's a good he's a unit.
Speaker 2: You want to just staffy. And it's like my five
Speaker 2: year old is the like sweetest, so smart, very artistic.
Speaker 2: He just loves drawing and painting, and du gymnastics, and
Speaker 2: the two year old is a fucking legy, like just
Speaker 2: coming past dick punch there.
Speaker 3: Wow, this might be a dumb question, yeah, but I'll
Speaker 3: ask it anyway. I've got two girls, so we've actually,
Speaker 3: other than a fringe haircut, which was a home job,
Speaker 3: we've never gotten haircuts. How's that process for two boys?
Speaker 2: The two year old's got big curly hair, like blonde
Speaker 2: curly hair like iust have when I was like mine
Speaker 2: was like white, this white curly thing. He's got very
Speaker 2: similar head of me. And then the five year old's
Speaker 2: got this straight almost looks a bit like grub, you know,
Speaker 2: just straight, but it's got color through it like chicks
Speaker 2: and pay hundreds of dollars to get the Yeah, all
Speaker 2: my wife friends look at the beauty.
Speaker 3: It's actually taking him down to the salon.
Speaker 2: They don't have to get their hair cut that often
Speaker 2: because I got longish.
Speaker 1: Obviously, Mason hasn't a haircut, she's so young. But Oscar
Speaker 1: couldn't stand it, the feel of the hair on him,
Speaker 1: oh cutting him, so I just like has had to
Speaker 1: pin him down and shave his head because he was just.
Speaker 2: Did you look like owned? It was like you know sheep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know when you used to have to give
Speaker 1: them a COVID test and you'd.
Speaker 2: Be like, oh yeah, it was like that.
Speaker 1: It's like trying to like and I'm just like shaving
Speaker 1: his head, but yeah, nightmare.
Speaker 2: Ye mind. I sort of sell anything I know if
Speaker 2: I know they're not going to enjoy it. So the
Speaker 2: my eldest, when he was younger and he had to
Speaker 2: get needles for the first time, my wife would make
Speaker 2: me take him in. So it's like he's equating these needles. Yeah, dad,
Speaker 2: I did it right. But when he got old enough,
Speaker 2: I said, man, when the needle goes in, I said,
Speaker 2: it's going to hurt unless you say, gone get. You
Speaker 2: say that, they'll laugh, it won't hurt. He's like, all right, daddy.
Speaker 2: He's like two in a bit and he's got the
Speaker 2: sleeve rolled up and he's looking. I'm like, yeah, man,
Speaker 2: you've got to do it, and shine gone get. She
Speaker 2: loses it and I'm like, did it hurt? He's like
Speaker 2: so now every time, but I'd forgotten. So the next
Speaker 2: time I'm taking him along to get you, I had
Speaker 2: just completely forgotten and sit down and the needle comes out.
Speaker 2: He's like don't get him now, that's his megan. I
Speaker 2: just try and give him a thing, like with a haircut.
Speaker 2: I was like, dude, you get to go to a barber, right,
Speaker 2: dad has to sit in the chair, I'll be honest,
Speaker 2: like a loser. I got to sit in a chair
Speaker 2: like a loser. When you go to the barber. Because
Speaker 2: you're so young and your hair is so cool, they're
Speaker 2: going to put a skateboard deck out over the chair,
Speaker 2: so you get to like almost skateboard. We'll get your haircut,
Speaker 2: which is I think the cool anyone's ever got to do.
Speaker 2: So it was one of the things I learned when
Speaker 2: nanny and it's like, if something's going to be ship,
Speaker 2: just sell it. You've just got to sell threatening my
Speaker 2: kids and you're just like, oh no, yeah, sell me
Speaker 2: this pan when they don't listen to the cell this threats.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm selling your threatening.
Speaker 3: You would have been a great agent, a sports agent.
Speaker 2: You would have Yeah. Yeah, it's really selling it. Those
Speaker 2: busted acls come back stronger, broken bones, stronger bones. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I've got to get this guy. He's thirty eight prime.
Speaker 1: He's wearing his jersey to all the games.
Speaker 2: One of the.
Speaker 3: Biggest pain points I think with young kids is holidays.
Speaker 3: Now you've done something which I think is on like borderline,
Speaker 3: like lunacy. You've taken a weak road trip with both
Speaker 3: your boys. What was it thinking behind?
Speaker 2: So my wife went with her mum and sisters to
Speaker 2: Greece in the middle of last year for a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks. There was like a terrible thing happened in
Speaker 2: the family, so they wanted to get away. And I
Speaker 2: was like, you should all go and do that. That's brilliant,
Speaker 2: go and do that. And she said, well, the two
Speaker 2: weeks is the two weeks you're off radio, so it's
Speaker 2: going to be your whole holidays with the one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: That's fine, whatever, And then she asked me, what are
Speaker 2: you going to do while I'm gone? And I said,
Speaker 2: I'm going to take them on a road trip around
Speaker 2: Victoria's screen, I reckon, yeah, she doesn't know that it
Speaker 2: was screens I put on Lonely Planet. She comes back,
Speaker 2: they're like twelve apostles boys, heaps of icy poles if
Speaker 2: you remember, five places. And I said, yeah, I'm going
Speaker 2: to take them on a road trip and she said
Speaker 2: why would you do that? And I said, well, I
Speaker 2: want to see if I can worst. Camp's the worst
Speaker 2: you come home. Yeah, they don't know the itinery. I
Speaker 2: don't know what I've got planned trips. Yeah, the driveway.
Speaker 2: So we went to Phillip Island for two nights, then
Speaker 2: Hillsville and we went to the zoo for a day.
Speaker 2: Then we went to Mansfield which is at the bottom
Speaker 2: of Mount Buller for a night, and then we went
Speaker 2: up Mount Buller and stayed up on Mount Buller for
Speaker 2: a night because it was snow seas and then came back.
Speaker 2: So it was like five days or something away. I'll
Speaker 2: be honest. One of the reasons why I did it.
Speaker 2: I knew if I could pull it off, the like
Speaker 2: dad credit, Oh, it's high, like in circles, I'm fucking
Speaker 2: up her friend's husbands.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you know what I mean, if Matt did that,
Speaker 1: be like, why can't you fucking do that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like to a group of mountaineers going to
Speaker 3: summon at Everest. Yeah, what the fuck are you guys doing?
Speaker 2: Yeah in the Yangsoka dickheads, get up, get up, have
Speaker 2: a go. So I knew it was going to be
Speaker 2: fun a road trip. It's not. I don't have to
Speaker 2: fly with them. I don't have to deal with that.
Speaker 2: We're all in the car. We're still within a few
Speaker 2: hours of home at any point. They're strapped in, do
Speaker 2: a bunch of activities in the morning, drive over nap
Speaker 2: time or whatever to get to the next place, and
Speaker 2: then set up. And it was genuinely like one of
Speaker 2: the funnest weeks. I still remember in philip By that
Speaker 2: heaps of stuff was booked out because it was Holidays.
Speaker 2: Booked this motel. So normally when we go away, we'll
Speaker 2: stay in a like a mantra or something, you know,
Speaker 2: like a two bedroom apartment, you know. But we hadn't
Speaker 2: stayed in a motel before. And we walk in and
Speaker 2: my five year old for at the time almost five,
Speaker 2: he's like, what, Dad, have a look at this. There's
Speaker 2: a TV on top of a fridge and the kettles
Speaker 2: next to it. This room. This is crazy. I was like, man,
Speaker 2: this room rules, and he's like, I can I draw it?
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, sit there drawing. It's like I can
Speaker 2: watch Bluey in bed and you can make a cup
Speaker 2: of tea beautiful.
Speaker 3: The house.
Speaker 2: Can we get back, yeah, because a beer out of
Speaker 2: the TV. He loved it. My youngest to turn two
Speaker 2: a week or so later. He was fairly good. Occasionally
Speaker 2: would just get at Phillip Island. There's a huge maze
Speaker 2: and we wanted to get to all the checkpoints. But
Speaker 2: you know, we're three of five flags in and the
Speaker 2: eldest wants to quit. I was like, man, finish two more.
Speaker 2: You feel like a champion. We could go home now
Speaker 2: and you'll remember being a bit of a loser. We
Speaker 2: gave up. Are we going to give up? I don't
Speaker 2: want to give up. All I wanted to do was
Speaker 2: just go get a beer. But I was like, let's
Speaker 2: get the last two. But I had to carry the
Speaker 2: eighteen kilo last come boys, let's go carry for a bit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just cooked, everything's cooked. But the tough one was the snow.
Speaker 2: Taking two kids to the snow. I'd never been to
Speaker 2: the snow. I'd never driven up to the snow by
Speaker 2: Myself's a recipe for disasters. Yeah, the room was two
Speaker 2: hundred meters from the car, but in a blizzard, going
Speaker 2: down a hill with an eighteen kilo kid and a
Speaker 2: thing and a suitcase and a fact.
Speaker 3: That was the snow adds a layer of complexity. That, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's not needed.
Speaker 1: I literally went to the shop and it was drizzling
Speaker 1: and got macie other car and walked from the car
Speaker 1: park to the open and she was just.
Speaker 2: Like, I can't imagine her in the snow. We went
Speaker 2: to boggling, so you just sit on a tobog. The
Speaker 2: oldest could go by himself, so he'd go down, and
Speaker 2: then I'd go down with the youngest. And the problem is,
Speaker 2: though you go down together, but you've got to use
Speaker 2: your feet as breaks, and when you slam your feet
Speaker 2: into the snow, snow kicks up, but it gets you
Speaker 2: a chest level. But it was just fucking cover. And
Speaker 2: he was just like throwing punches at at snow, trying it.
Speaker 2: And then when the fiver I wanted to do one
Speaker 2: more run on the tobomo. He'd done about ten of them.
Speaker 2: He had a blind he was loving it. And of
Speaker 2: course it's like one more dad, And I'd heard so
Speaker 2: many dads tell me that if there's ever going to
Speaker 2: be a mistake, one more fangs down this mountain. Then
Speaker 2: just decides to go ninety degrees to the left through
Speaker 2: this mesh sort of fence that hit him there, so
Speaker 2: it looks like his head's come off smashed into the snow.
Speaker 2: But I'm up top I can hear him. You go, go, bud,
Speaker 2: you're right right mate, right, I'm like, he's not all right.
Speaker 2: It's got my pleasure. I've got to do a head
Speaker 2: injury assessment on him. This is in the eyes, just
Speaker 2: lay out. I don't move elevated. But he had to
Speaker 2: carry his toboggan back up after acting himself because I
Speaker 2: couldn't get down with the mate. Let's to boggle down,
Speaker 2: get Charlie. We've got to help him out. And as
Speaker 2: soon as I'd sit the young bloke on these like no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I know what happens. Shit, the snow was just like
Speaker 2: twenty four hour. He's got great memories to favor of,
Speaker 2: like playing in the snow, throwing snowballs to bolganing. But
Speaker 2: that's twenty minutes of that twenty four hours. Just fuck
Speaker 2: it goes so sly. Yeah, definitely needed another pair of hands.
Speaker 3: But is there another trip on the cards after this one?
Speaker 3: Like we step it up a notch.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think I'll have to do it again.
Speaker 2: We might come up to Sydney. Actually, did you get
Speaker 2: your dad credit? First of all, oh so much, my wife,
Speaker 2: I'm giving it to you. Just admit, she kept saying,
Speaker 2: just admit it was hard. Soon it was really easy.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I.
Speaker 3: Like Max in a wheelchair.
Speaker 1: We spoke yesterday after you said I took the kids
Speaker 1: away on my own and we both went fuck that.
Speaker 1: So you've got one up on us as visual.
Speaker 2: Yeah. If you think it's going to be a normal
Speaker 2: holiday now with kids, you're not you used to have.
Speaker 1: I'm so frustrated at the airport and all sorts of
Speaker 1: things like now that I used to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: we grab the bag. Now I'm like, get the bag,
Speaker 1: get to the higher car.
Speaker 2: One of one of the best bits. I don't know
Speaker 2: how your wives pack, but three months before and everything that, everything,
Speaker 2: the kitchen sinks in them. They're first drawing a fucking
Speaker 2: old passport. What's going on? And we have to bring
Speaker 2: a suitcase full of nappies. It's like we went down
Speaker 2: to the Gold Coasts they sell them there. What the
Speaker 2: fuck are we doing? We went to Balley and my wife's.
Speaker 1: Like, why do you have so many suitcases? And she's like,
Speaker 1: we'll go to have all the nappies. I was like,
Speaker 1: first of all, they sell nappies there. She's like, they're
Speaker 1: not going to be the same, and I was like,
Speaker 1: they are going to be the same. Like you understand
Speaker 1: that tourists go there all the time, right, yeah.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, do you know what we
Speaker 2: should do?
Speaker 1: We should putting in my board bag just to protect
Speaker 1: the surfboards.
Speaker 2: Smart that's that's a dad brain.
Speaker 1: And I was like, sweet, let's do that. Save us
Speaker 1: a whole nother suitcase. Anyway, the surfboard didn't turn up.
Speaker 2: Oh, and she was like, I told you this would happen.
Speaker 2: And I was like, look, we'll go to the shop
Speaker 2: lo and behold, guess what.
Speaker 1: They've got their fucking nappy and they got a whole
Speaker 1: wall of them and.
Speaker 2: She was like oh. I was like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: So that was one of the best bits was because
Speaker 2: I've the most frustrated I've ever been. I reckon is
Speaker 2: my wife saying, hey, don't worry, I've got myself and
Speaker 2: the boys covered. You just pack whatever you need. So
Speaker 2: she'll pack it all and then you go, hey, you
Speaker 2: go put it in the car. And I'm like, this
Speaker 2: is like tetrist, that's fucking my spine. The concept of
Speaker 2: space is not know what, you expected me to try
Speaker 2: and fire around here, find a way it gets done.
Speaker 2: But I'm always frustrated. So the fact that I got
Speaker 2: to pack it's like minimal. Take one pair of shorts. Yeah,
Speaker 2: one shirt, Dad, I want to jump in the mud.
Speaker 2: Well you got no other clothes.
Speaker 3: I thought you were going to say that we're going
Speaker 3: to try and walk across another boards like, Dad, come,
Speaker 3: I need the credit.
Speaker 2: It was funny. Yeah, it was just great. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was like little weird bits of it were fun.
Speaker 2: Like we're driving through like the Dandi in I'm standing
Speaker 2: Victoria and I want can we get some fruit? I
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, for sure, I've reckoned. There's places around
Speaker 2: here itself, there'd be little farms and packed it. But
Speaker 2: we're hunter gatherers. When are these pretty prepared. Let's go
Speaker 2: and get it ourselves. But you know, like we're driving
Speaker 2: through and he's like, Dad, look at this sign. It
Speaker 2: was just a massive painted apple. I'm like, yeah, man,
Speaker 2: let's go in there. And it happened to be an
Speaker 2: org that that had heaps then you know, just those
Speaker 2: things they remember, like two massive bags of apples. Yeah,
Speaker 2: kids are like this is this is crazy to see
Speaker 2: that big apple. Yeah, sh they forget the snow. Yeah
Speaker 2: you don't remember a big bag of apples? Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 2: But in like three years time, they'll be like that
Speaker 2: big bag was. Like friends of my wife took their
Speaker 2: kids on like an eight month caravanning trip or something
Speaker 2: like so long, and then when they got back and
Speaker 2: asked the kids, what was your favorite part? And I'm like, dad,
Speaker 2: remember that caravan park when the Pooh truck came and
Speaker 2: pumped all the pool out of the like we could
Speaker 2: have just gone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, before we go. I do want to ask. Maybe
Speaker 3: there's there's no answer to this question, but I'll try
Speaker 3: my luck anyway. Is there any advice, like one particular
Speaker 3: saying that you would say could help any potential mums
Speaker 3: or dads out there who are expecting their first child.
Speaker 2: You go on as many dates as possible. Now, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm not This isn't even a tip for when the
Speaker 2: kid comes, because you don't know what you're going to get.
Speaker 2: That's the you know, you had a great sleeper ship sleeper.
Speaker 2: You don't know what's coming, but you can control what
Speaker 2: you do up until the baby comes. Very true, hopefully,
Speaker 2: and that would be just heaps of date nights suck
Speaker 2: a lot. We were that's what he's getting out. I reckon.
Speaker 2: We saw so many move like we were seeing the
Speaker 2: shittest movie, Like we just got through every every movie.
Speaker 2: We were just watching ship because we're like soon we
Speaker 2: won't be able to do now. People are like, have
Speaker 2: you seen I'm like, no, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've seen the insides of my eyelids and that's about it.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen anything. It is just get here first,
Speaker 2: sex a lot. I did.
Speaker 3: You were going to say, go on, gett now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, moms to be when you're pushing it out,
Speaker 2: it's not gonna hurt if you are gone.
Speaker 3: Absolute ye.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for having me. Really appreciate it.
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