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Speaker 1: Today, Matt, we have a very special guest for Three

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Speaker 2: It is Nick Cody.

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Speaker 1: He is a comedian recognized internationally. He's appeared on the

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Speaker 1: Conan O'Brien show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was. I think it was the fourth ever

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Speaker 3: Australian to appear on the show, which is a huge feeder.

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Speaker 3: Was a few years ago. And I fucking love Conan O'Brien.

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Speaker 2: I like his hair moves when he talks.

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Speaker 3: He is absolutely hilarious and he's a great bloke as well.

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Speaker 3: If you're not familiar with his stuff, I highly recommend

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Speaker 3: you check out his YouTube special. It's called Live at

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Speaker 3: the Corner Hotel. Will put the link in the show

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Speaker 3: notes as well and also put that up on Stories

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Speaker 3: and Two Doting Dads Very funny.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he's also one of the hosts of the Morning

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Speaker 1: Breakfast Show with Fifi, Fev and Nick.

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Speaker 3: And now he is a dad. If he wasn't, it

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Speaker 3: would be awkward.

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Speaker 2: It would be weird. We just said three doting dads.

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Speaker 3: Married to his beautiful wife Lucia, he has two boys,

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Speaker 3: they are five and two. And I just want to say,

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Speaker 3: I know we mentioned it before. He's a comedian, but

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Speaker 3: he is bloody.

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Speaker 1: Hilarious and he's lovely, lovely to have here, and we

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Speaker 1: had a great old chat.

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Speaker 4: So enjoy.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to three doting dads.

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Speaker 2: I am Maddie, Jay, I'm Ash and I'm Nick Curti.

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Speaker 3: This is a podcast that's all about parenting.

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Speaker 2: It's the good, the bad, and the relatable.

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Speaker 3: Now, for legal reasons, we do have to say that

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Speaker 3: there is never any advice given on this podcast. However,

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Speaker 3: this episode will be a little bit different because we

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Speaker 3: have the pleasure of being joined by another dad who

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Speaker 3: I would say, is it better dad than us?

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Speaker 1: They're all better than us, man, It's not hard. It's

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Speaker 1: subjective though, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, being a good dad.

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Speaker 3: It's a pleasure to have you here.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Before I ask about your parenting, I do want to

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Speaker 3: ask you something else on dad related. What's Conan O'Brien like?

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Speaker 2: Super friendly and a lot warmer than he had to be? Wow? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's good.

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Speaker 3: How did that come about? So anyone who doesn't know

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Speaker 3: you were the fourth ever Puzzy to be on his show?

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Speaker 3: How did that come about?

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Speaker 2: I did the Edinburgh Fringe Festival in twenty fifteen twenty

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Speaker 2: sixteen twenty seventeen. But in twenty sixteen, Booker JP came

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Speaker 2: along to my show how Refringe Yeah, and then got

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Speaker 2: the call up. That's a huge that's huge, Yeah, because

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Speaker 2: Matt's a really big fan of Conan. It's the best.

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Speaker 3: I love.

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Speaker 2: I love watching back. I should have done. There were

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Speaker 2: like five other bits I should have done. My spot

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Speaker 2: was all right, could have been better, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, the hometown, the small town yeah, good gear.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was still cop shit about that from

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Speaker 2: people from small towns. But it's I actually love small town.

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Speaker 2: It's like you make fun of the thing you love,

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Speaker 2: You make one of the things like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Anyone who's not familiar. Yeah, there's the reason why they're

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Speaker 2: Ye. If small towns were good, they would have gotten bigger.

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Speaker 2: That's really you know, yeah, exactly right.

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Speaker 1: Small town shut up, relaxed, soaked, and so we made

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking hell. People were just.

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Speaker 1: Like there was like that were heroes.

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Speaker 2: Remember, they were just like we.

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Speaker 3: Called them vets. I think, yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 2: I told them they're just like vets.

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Speaker 1: You got to see you got to see a goat

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Speaker 3: Those people are like, I might just give two doting

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Speaker 3: dads one last try.

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Speaker 2: Town. I got heaps for that.

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Speaker 3: JP was the booker. Yeah, and so after the gig,

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Speaker 2: Well night before the gig. You're in the dressing room

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Speaker 2: and I had my manager there, my mate Max Price,

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Speaker 2: and they were like, you can bring another person if

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Speaker 2: holy ship Australian's back when this time and these time

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Speaker 2: the gigs had gotten better. So that time I rolled

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Speaker 2: He's like fucking yes, ringing the bells. I was sick.

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Speaker 2: Probably poor preparation for a large gig, but I went

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Speaker 2: beast Mode. So played for Seattle Seahawks and I want

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like all the late night show hosts

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Speaker 1: I've got another sad story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, bring him back down. And then Marshall when he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a chat yesterday and before this record, obviously,

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Speaker 3: don't seem like someone who would have had a career

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we were shocked. I was not expecting your

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Speaker 1: You would have made a past probation period.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, career. I was eighteen and I got a

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Speaker 3: Working anywhere at that time? Or we're going.

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Speaker 2: To look at yeah. Just my mum was a receptionist

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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I'll love for an interview because

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Speaker 1: He just walked in with your testosteronie. Yeah, that's him.

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Speaker 2: Well? I remember I asked a ten year old. I

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Speaker 2: I'm like, cool, brother, map had no idea.

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Speaker 2: Because at like six o'clock they've come home at quarter

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Speaker 2: how was it? Okay? It was pretty good until fifteen

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Speaker 2: They said that was the nap. But I'm like, dad

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Speaker 2: didn't have one. He said he didn't need one.

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Speaker 3: They're like, he definitely needs he naps aside was it

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, my dad told me to take the job

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Speaker 2: so that it would show me how hard it is

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't do a big western suburbs of Melbourne thing,

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Speaker 2: and that is get a chick pregnant when you're nineteen,

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Speaker 2: and so he goes, that'll blast you through that side. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're not going to want to he's pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Did did it work?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hundred percent. I didn't have a kid until I

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Speaker 2: Yeah? We worked on a TV show called Kinny, a

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Speaker 2: Yes, she was just helping her friend out in the

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Speaker 1: It wasn't like madd he had twenty seven different women

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Speaker 3: and le Cheer how did that conversation take place?

437
00:21:53,119 --> 00:22:01,919
Speaker 2: Well, sheme on, big boy, I can I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

438
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, she yelled, filled me up.

439
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 3: A beautiful story.

440
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 2: I'm sorry it was she's she's super family oriented, so

441
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 2: he really tight. She's got two younger sisters, big family

442
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 2: events all the time. My family too, but not the

443
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 2: same way that her family are. She always wanted kids.

444
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 2: I never wanted care. I didn't want to get married.

445
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 2: I had so much it's so many old cut that

446
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 2: stand up, copy paste, copy paste. I used to have

447
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 2: a heaps of stand up bits about never wanting to

448
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 2: get married. Or she would laugh at Yeah, why is that?

449
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,360
Speaker 2: Do you think I just didn't Well, at the time,

450
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 2: I just didn't. I just didn't want to know. Yeah,

451
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 2: I was yeah, now yeah. Then you meet someone here

452
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 2: like I could see this happening, yeah yeah yeah. And

453
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 2: then the unluckiest that we decided all right, let's have

454
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 2: a kid. This is end of twenty seventeen. So I

455
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 2: used to be on the road like seven eight, nine

456
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 2: months a year. I would always be away, and I

457
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 2: was like, all right, we're going to try for cal

458
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 2: try and be home or you know, you've got to

459
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 2: oulating yes, Yes, that's an interesting time because we're going

460
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 2: for a third and I know the tap of like

461
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: this is a fun full around and I know the

462
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: tap when it's the day is the day to give

463
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 2: it your best. It's business. Yeah, I've been called out.

464
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 2: I take it like I'm a soldier or something. Tag

465
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: me in for me in Coachy boys, Ready for war.

466
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 2: The first pregnancy test, she took, no, baby, we're a

467
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 2: bit flat, and I was like, like, I've never done

468
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 2: this before, never had a pregnancy test, never seen the

469
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 2: look on someone's face when it's a no go. Fuck.

470
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 2: What should we do? I know, let's rescue a dog.

471
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 2: We've rescued a dog that was a Staffy cross kelpy

472
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 2: named YOU'MI just a lunatic dog, sweetest part but just insane.

473
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 3: And then together or did you just go straight.

474
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: Picked it together? But I wanted a pure bred Staffy.

475
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 2: I love Staffi's actual actual Staffies, even though they're built,

476
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 2: you know, stock and they look scary, but they're the

477
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,239
Speaker 2: softest stock. Yeah. Whereas my wife said, you're not having that.

478
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 2: I don't like that look of a dog. She wanted

479
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 2: something a bit sleeker, not that fat head. She's like

480
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: she just thinks I wanted a staffy because I look

481
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 2: like just around give us a pat. She said, let's

482
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 2: pick this one instead. It was a cross. We didn't

483
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 2: know what the cross was until later, but it ended

484
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 2: up being kelpy fucking crazy, insane. This stuff full of

485
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: the strength of a staffy, with the energy of a Kelvy.

486
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 2: It's just it's not necessary. Yeah, And then like a

487
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 2: week later or something less, even another pregnancy tastes pregnant.

488
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 4: Fuck.

489
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 2: I went from no us responsibility ultimately you've got planned

490
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: B and Plan A all in one.

491
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 3: Did you keep the rescue dog or what happened?

492
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 2: My first son was born towards the end of twenty eighteen.

493
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 2: And then like a month or two later, my manager

494
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 2: asked me about breakfast radio and like doing stand up,

495
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: you go in and just do little bits on radio

496
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 2: and promote shows and whatever. But this was for like

497
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 2: a permanent spot on a breakfast show but in Brisbane.

498
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 2: I was like, well, I live in Melbourne, not moving,

499
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 2: love Brisie, but I'm not moving, and they said just

500
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 2: try it out. And when I had to try and

501
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 2: it went it was fun, and they offered me the

502
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 2: job and I was like, oh, I don't want to

503
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: be locked in. At the time, Charlie was three months

504
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 2: old and did not sleep through a night. There were

505
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 2: nights where he's waking up every hour on the hour,

506
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 2: fucking insanity. And I was like, I was used to

507
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 2: going to bed at one, two, three in the morning,

508
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 2: waking up whenever I want, do whatever I want. And

509
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 2: now it's like it's your real hard Yeah. Now it's like, hey,

510
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 2: you know how you're not sleep well at three fifty?

511
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: Do you want to get up and go?

512
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: You still do you still do a night radio because

513
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: you're like, I mean other or night anyway.

514
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, And even now, like I tell people, so that job,

515
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 2: you'd have to be in there at four thirty going

516
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: through stuff, have a meeting five till five thirty, You're

517
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 2: on there five thirty till nine insane.

518
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 3: I would say it's one of I mean, I shouldn't

519
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 3: say one off, because I'm sure there's a lot of

520
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 3: jobs out there that are very, very tough. But it's

521
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 3: hard in that it's very very early and you've got

522
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 3: this little window where you're on you're on air, and

523
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 3: you've got to be high quick sharp.

524
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: I've no good right, Like, it's a lot of coffee. Yeah,

525
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: I'll be all right. Actually, you'd be no good.

526
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 3: That type of negativity.

527
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 2: How much sleep do you need tonight.

528
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 3: Consistently? I think my limit would be like six hours. Yeah,

529
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 3: that's kind of back to back. But you can do

530
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 3: you can do six anything lower than five as a

531
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 3: one off. I'm struggling.

532
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: I'll do for it hours, three hours, whatever. It's not

533
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 2: a competition, mate, yes it is. Everything is. Life is

534
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: a competition, Matt. I won't sleep, Yeah, I won't sleep.

535
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: That's what it takes. You go to bed at eight

536
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 2: pm and wake up at eleven pm. Yeah, that's what

537
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: I mean.

538
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: I'll do like eight till six, and then on the weekends,

539
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm in bet at like three am, and

540
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: then I'm back up again at like six.

541
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's rough. And you know the thing, it's like,

542
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 2: if you have under five hours sleep, I think it's

543
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: the equivalent of like four or five standard drinks. Yeah.

544
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: What if I've only had five hours sleep and four

545
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: or five stands drinks?

546
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 2: So I can't slay each other out?

547
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

548
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: Is that that's what I other police and they're like,

549
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 1: you're good fighting five week Yeah?

550
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 3: When you got this job, did lud cheer go amazing,

551
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 3: this is great, you know, full time work. We've got

552
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 3: a family now.

553
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 2: You don't have to travel as much. You think it

554
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: would be that, but it's more. You've just got a

555
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 2: kid that doesn't sleep, so everything is just like what Brisbane. Yeah,

556
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 2: there's a dog gun just jumping in the backyard trying

557
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: to kick possible. It's you think about it. Yeah, yeah,

558
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 2: just it was too much. So generally for the Brisbane show,

559
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 2: I'd go up a week a month, and then three

560
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: weeks a month i'd be in Melbourne or on the

561
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: doing it from on the road or whatever. And twenty nineteen,

562
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: all the touring and everything for the year is locked

563
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 2: in in sort of August September, so it was before

564
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 2: I got the job. So all these dates, all these

565
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 2: things are all locked in, and I'm getting up at

566
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: three point fifty and the kid doesn't sleep and there's

567
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 2: a fucking mental dog. It was just the shittest to

568
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 2: you know, how do you can't imagine? I just blew out.

569
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: There's no sleep. Coffee, coffee, so many coffees, just in

570
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 2: survival mode. Yeah. And then at the end of twenty nineteen,

571
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: I thought, you know what, I've got one year left

572
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 2: on this contract. What I'm going to do is get COVID.

573
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: The one thing no COVID was coming. I thought, what

574
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 2: a great year. What I'll do I don't quit things,

575
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 2: so I just won't drink. I won't drink for a year,

576
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: just hard drugs. I'll see what I just math, just

577
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: injected and archery. So no booze, no booze for twenty twenty,

578
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: which is the worst year to not Yeah yeah, yeah,

579
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, that was the best year for drinking, I

580
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: shouted everyone else was having at home.

581
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 3: Did it help though? Was it making things more manageable?

582
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: All it does? I don't know. Are you given much

583
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: more of a vibe of heaps and heaps of he said, yeah, yeah, yeah, monster.

584
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ash's nickname. I'm you're pretty responsibe, pretty responsible. I've

585
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 3: always have your blow out here and there couple of

586
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 3: beers midweek.

587
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: He doesn't have a lot of body fat, so two

588
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: or three beers and he's I never when he said

589
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: he was also thirty six, I was fuck you.

590
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: To get out of your own house. But that's how

591
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: you do it.

592
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 3: Had like an extended period of the booze.

593
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,959
Speaker 2: Okay, like the longest I've done like three What did

594
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: I do last year? I was like four days? Not bad,

595
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 2: that's more than hard. Yeah, that's pretty good. I take that.

596
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 3: Pros and cons of being off the booze.

597
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: With kids specifically, Yeah, it's so everyone thinks it's like

598
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: you must feel amazing all the time, but it's not.

599
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: It's that you never feel shit, so you wake up

600
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: the best bit of your energy. It's boring though, Yeah,

601
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: I remember the whole year. That's probably the worst thing,

602
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: which was actually all right. You wake up in the

603
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: morning and your energy is the same as at midday,

604
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: six pm, ten pm. You're just on this. That sounds terrible. Yeah,

605
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 2: there's no doubt, there's no mood up. Yeah. Yeah, And

606
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,719
Speaker 2: like this morning. So I'm in Sydney for two nights,

607
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 2: and last night I knew this morning I've got to

608
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: get up for radio. But I'm not sleeping at home

609
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: with the kids. Got a gig at the comedy store, No,

610
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: absolutely not. I was having boiler makers, beers and whiskey

611
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: beer whiskey. Yeah, get up before thirty, just chare, We'll

612
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: walk into the studio fresh. It's good, but there's no

613
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: kids punching me in the head, it's fine, but the

614
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: year off, it'small that. Your energy is just level.

615
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 3: How did you manage the sleep?

616
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: I don't really with.

617
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: Your first Yeah, because I was similar to and Matt's

618
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: you my second one that would that would suck.

619
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you think it's worked out. Yeah, there is

620
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: something nice about having one that doesn't sleep the first

621
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: time around. So when the second one rolls around, yeah,

622
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: all right, and then it sleeps and yeah, all right,

623
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: that makes you more annoyed to the first one. Me too.

624
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: My first he slept like forty minutes at a time

625
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: around the clock for so long, and then the second

626
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: one was a dream compared to that. She couldn't be

627
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: as bad as that, So I think that was sort

628
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: of like a bit of a say but when you

629
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: got it the other way around, you we are so

630
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: fucking good at this job parenting.

631
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 3: And then whole sense of confidence.

632
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, shoot you down.

633
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 3: Did you guys try and get help with the sleep

634
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 3: or was it something that they just you bub grew

635
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: out of?

636
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 2: I still remember and my wife i't like me saying this,

637
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,479
Speaker 2: but we went to like a sleep I don't know,

638
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: like a sleep class or something, but we're cooked like

639
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: we haven't slept. Yeah, and the woman running this sleep

640
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 2: class at some point has said something. And then there's

641
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: a break and it's you got twenty minutes, go get

642
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,959
Speaker 2: a coffee or whatever. And as we're walking, my wife's like,

643
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 2: I'm not doing this. I don't like this lady. And

644
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: it's like, are you sure you're just not really tired,

645
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: and she said something, Yeah, the lady probably said something

646
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: very reasonable, and my wife's like, hate her, hate everything

647
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: she's about. We're out of here, she says. I get tangry,

648
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: she gets angry, she gets like hungry angry. Yeah, but

649
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 2: she is generally pretty good on not a lot of sleep.

650
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: Whereas I get I get tangry, I get tired, angry

651
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: and angry. Yeah. Yeah, I just know when I'm told

652
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: my wife sends me to bed now like a two

653
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: year old. This it's all gone to ship and I'm

654
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 2: quitting this. I've had enough for this. This is nonsense.

655
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 2: And she's like, you go and have a nap. Now,

656
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: I want to get your blanket. So we try to

657
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: get help for the first one. The lady said something

658
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: that my wife didn't agree with. We're out of there,

659
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 2: and then just just kept going until how long until?

660
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 2: Must have been a year in a bit. He wasn't

661
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: a great sleeper. Yeah, it feels like forever though. Yeah.

662
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: I've got a photo of him when we were he

663
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: must have been just under one, maybe just turned one,

664
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 2: and we're on the Gold Coast like a little family

665
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: holiday and he's had a rough night sleeping and read

666
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: a cafe. The next morning he's sort of standing up

667
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: on a chair and he looks eighty six. Yeah, he

668
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 2: looks like you've just shrunk an old man down the eyes.

669
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: And it was just.

670
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: Like he's just lived a really hard life.

671
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: He's seen a lot of things.

672
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, you must have been scared shitless then to go

673
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: number two when number one was just like crazy time

674
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 3: in your life with a tricky.

675
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: Thing as well. Yeah, so well the second one, I

676
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 2: always thought I'm not having one. I know. There was

677
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 2: some article on ABC the other day about serial killers. No,

678
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: it was more like, it turns out only children can

679
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 2: be awesome, and most of them are all just can't share.

680
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 2: Can't share it, cannot share any adult I know that's

681
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 2: a single kid. You figure it out pretty quickly, you know,

682
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: And it's actually fine, And I get if you're unable

683
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 2: to have a second kid, I get it, get a

684
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: rescue dog, that's the same. But the people that can't

685
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 2: have it, of course, that's brutal. Not talking about that,

686
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: the people that just have one, and then actually, you

687
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: know what's great about one? You can focus on them more.

688
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 2: That'd be good for them in the long run. Just

689
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 2: say you're weaker than the bill.

690
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not as strong as the rest of us.

691
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: And there we go.

692
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: When kid grows up, it's just like, it's going to

693
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: think everything's about that.

694
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 2: Look. I honestly, after the trauma of the first one,

695
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: I was genuinely didn't want another one.

696
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: Will just say to anyone listening who is a parent

697
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 3: of one child, Hey, we love you, and we.

698
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,439
Speaker 2: Love you as much as we love rural doctors. There's

699
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: a rural doctor with one kid. Yeah, yeah, they're also

700
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 2: event It was always going to be on the cards

701
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 2: going in for the second one. It's like, well, I'm

702
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: already in. Yeah, well the night of I.

703
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: Don't want to know anything about it's already in.

704
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: Oh those people, I don't know how far apart you,

705
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 2: but kids both like a couple of years apart.

706
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 3: I think we're all pretty similar. We're eighteen months.

707
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, like two and a years apart. But those people like, yeah,

708
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 2: I've got a one year old and two months old.

709
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 2: Your mum had five under seven.

710
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 3: She had three under three?

711
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: Whoa on them out Irish triplets?

712
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was. She was a maniac. I couldn't think

713
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: of anything.

714
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god. When she told me that, I nearly

715
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: fell over. I was like, fuck. But that was from

716
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: a time where you could hit him, which does you know, Yeah,

717
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 2: that's cheat codes. There was no social media back then.

718
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 2: Maybe hitting kids or whatever. Let him do whatever.

719
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: I'm assuming though, it was a much easier run into

720
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 3: having two kids, given that number one was so tricky

721
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 3: work in life was chaotic, that number two was a

722
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 3: lot more pleasant.

723
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: Well it was COVID in twenty twenty. We got an

724
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 2: exemption in August or something to go up to Queensland

725
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 2: because I was on Triple M in Brisbane and just

726
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: that like to get out. It was like four months

727
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: of lockdown in Melbourne and then get to Queensland. We

728
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 2: had to do the two weeks of hotel quarantine with

729
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: the two year old in the almost two years old,

730
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: and my wife for the first kid was like no

731
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 2: screens until they're too no screens. I don't agree, and

732
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: we're doing, We're doing.

733
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: I'm going to pull you up there.

734
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: Two weeks hotel quarantine, like stuck in a hotel room,

735
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 2: no screen, no screens. Oh my god, those screens that

736
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 2: would have been we did it? Yeah, holy what did

737
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 2: you do? Just lock it in there. The second kid,

738
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: the second kid six months and I think could use

739
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 2: a remote, both my kids swiping away d MS at

740
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: six months he's on my phone.

741
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: Trying to I'm getting important text messages't yeah.

742
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 2: But got to go to Brisbane. Everything's open, everything's good

743
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 2: to go. And then yeah, fell pregnant in Brisbane. So

744
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 2: they came home with a little queens lay there in

745
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: there beautiful.

746
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: Don't say that he's a queen's yeah, right, okay, so

747
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: is your second a girl?

748
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: So two boys? Me crazy, Yeah, and it's a bit

749
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 2: of fun. And the two year old he turned to

750
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 2: a couple of months ago. But when he turned to

751
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: he was eighteen kilos. Like, he's a good he's a unit.

752
00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: You want to just staffy. And it's like my five

753
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 2: year old is the like sweetest, so smart, very artistic.

754
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: He just loves drawing and painting, and du gymnastics, and

755
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 2: the two year old is a fucking legy, like just

756
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 2: coming past dick punch there.

757
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 3: Wow, this might be a dumb question, yeah, but I'll

758
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 3: ask it anyway. I've got two girls, so we've actually,

759
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 3: other than a fringe haircut, which was a home job,

760
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 3: we've never gotten haircuts. How's that process for two boys?

761
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: The two year old's got big curly hair, like blonde

762
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 2: curly hair like iust have when I was like mine

763
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: was like white, this white curly thing. He's got very

764
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 2: similar head of me. And then the five year old's

765
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 2: got this straight almost looks a bit like grub, you know,

766
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: just straight, but it's got color through it like chicks

767
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: and pay hundreds of dollars to get the Yeah, all

768
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: my wife friends look at the beauty.

769
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 3: It's actually taking him down to the salon.

770
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 2: They don't have to get their hair cut that often

771
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 2: because I got longish.

772
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 1: Obviously, Mason hasn't a haircut, she's so young. But Oscar

773
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: couldn't stand it, the feel of the hair on him,

774
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: oh cutting him, so I just like has had to

775
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: pin him down and shave his head because he was just.

776
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: Did you look like owned? It was like you know sheep.

777
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know when you used to have to give

778
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: them a COVID test and you'd.

779
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 2: Be like, oh yeah, it was like that.

780
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: It's like trying to like and I'm just like shaving

781
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: his head, but yeah, nightmare.

782
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 2: Ye mind. I sort of sell anything I know if

783
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: I know they're not going to enjoy it. So the

784
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: my eldest, when he was younger and he had to

785
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 2: get needles for the first time, my wife would make

786
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 2: me take him in. So it's like he's equating these needles. Yeah, dad,

787
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 2: I did it right. But when he got old enough,

788
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 2: I said, man, when the needle goes in, I said,

789
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: it's going to hurt unless you say, gone get. You

790
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 2: say that, they'll laugh, it won't hurt. He's like, all right, daddy.

791
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 2: He's like two in a bit and he's got the

792
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: sleeve rolled up and he's looking. I'm like, yeah, man,

793
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 2: you've got to do it, and shine gone get. She

794
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: loses it and I'm like, did it hurt? He's like

795
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 2: so now every time, but I'd forgotten. So the next

796
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 2: time I'm taking him along to get you, I had

797
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 2: just completely forgotten and sit down and the needle comes out.

798
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: He's like don't get him now, that's his megan. I

799
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: just try and give him a thing, like with a haircut.

800
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: I was like, dude, you get to go to a barber, right,

801
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 2: dad has to sit in the chair, I'll be honest,

802
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: like a loser. I got to sit in a chair

803
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: like a loser. When you go to the barber. Because

804
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: you're so young and your hair is so cool, they're

805
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: going to put a skateboard deck out over the chair,

806
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: so you get to like almost skateboard. We'll get your haircut,

807
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 2: which is I think the cool anyone's ever got to do.

808
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: So it was one of the things I learned when

809
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 2: nanny and it's like, if something's going to be ship,

810
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: just sell it. You've just got to sell threatening my

811
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: kids and you're just like, oh no, yeah, sell me

812
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: this pan when they don't listen to the cell this threats.

813
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm selling your threatening.

814
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 3: You would have been a great agent, a sports agent.

815
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: You would have Yeah. Yeah, it's really selling it. Those

816
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 2: busted acls come back stronger, broken bones, stronger bones. Yeah.

817
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 2: I've got to get this guy. He's thirty eight prime.

818
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 1: He's wearing his jersey to all the games.

819
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: One of the.

820
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 3: Biggest pain points I think with young kids is holidays.

821
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 3: Now you've done something which I think is on like borderline,

822
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 3: like lunacy. You've taken a weak road trip with both

823
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 3: your boys. What was it thinking behind?

824
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 2: So my wife went with her mum and sisters to

825
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: Greece in the middle of last year for a couple

826
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 2: of weeks. There was like a terrible thing happened in

827
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 2: the family, so they wanted to get away. And I

828
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 2: was like, you should all go and do that. That's brilliant,

829
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 2: go and do that. And she said, well, the two

830
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: weeks is the two weeks you're off radio, so it's

831
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: going to be your whole holidays with the one hundred percent.

832
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: That's fine, whatever, And then she asked me, what are

833
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 2: you going to do while I'm gone? And I said,

834
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,439
Speaker 2: I'm going to take them on a road trip around

835
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: Victoria's screen, I reckon, yeah, she doesn't know that it

836
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: was screens I put on Lonely Planet. She comes back,

837
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: they're like twelve apostles boys, heaps of icy poles if

838
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: you remember, five places. And I said, yeah, I'm going

839
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 2: to take them on a road trip and she said

840
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 2: why would you do that? And I said, well, I

841
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 2: want to see if I can worst. Camp's the worst

842
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: you come home. Yeah, they don't know the itinery. I

843
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: don't know what I've got planned trips. Yeah, the driveway.

844
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 2: So we went to Phillip Island for two nights, then

845
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 2: Hillsville and we went to the zoo for a day.

846
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 2: Then we went to Mansfield which is at the bottom

847
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 2: of Mount Buller for a night, and then we went

848
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: up Mount Buller and stayed up on Mount Buller for

849
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 2: a night because it was snow seas and then came back.

850
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: So it was like five days or something away. I'll

851
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 2: be honest. One of the reasons why I did it.

852
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: I knew if I could pull it off, the like

853
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: dad credit, Oh, it's high, like in circles, I'm fucking

854
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: up her friend's husbands.

855
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you know what I mean, if Matt did that,

856
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: be like, why can't you fucking do that?

857
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like to a group of mountaineers going to

858
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 3: summon at Everest. Yeah, what the fuck are you guys doing?

859
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah in the Yangsoka dickheads, get up, get up, have

860
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 2: a go. So I knew it was going to be

861
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: fun a road trip. It's not. I don't have to

862
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 2: fly with them. I don't have to deal with that.

863
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: We're all in the car. We're still within a few

864
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: hours of home at any point. They're strapped in, do

865
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 2: a bunch of activities in the morning, drive over nap

866
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 2: time or whatever to get to the next place, and

867
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: then set up. And it was genuinely like one of

868
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: the funnest weeks. I still remember in philip By that

869
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: heaps of stuff was booked out because it was Holidays.

870
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: Booked this motel. So normally when we go away, we'll

871
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: stay in a like a mantra or something, you know,

872
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: like a two bedroom apartment, you know. But we hadn't

873
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 2: stayed in a motel before. And we walk in and

874
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: my five year old for at the time almost five,

875
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: he's like, what, Dad, have a look at this. There's

876
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 2: a TV on top of a fridge and the kettles

877
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 2: next to it. This room. This is crazy. I was like, man,

878
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 2: this room rules, and he's like, I can I draw it?

879
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, sit there drawing. It's like I can

880
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 2: watch Bluey in bed and you can make a cup

881
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: of tea beautiful.

882
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 3: The house.

883
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: Can we get back, yeah, because a beer out of

884
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: the TV. He loved it. My youngest to turn two

885
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 2: a week or so later. He was fairly good. Occasionally

886
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 2: would just get at Phillip Island. There's a huge maze

887
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: and we wanted to get to all the checkpoints. But

888
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: you know, we're three of five flags in and the

889
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 2: eldest wants to quit. I was like, man, finish two more.

890
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 2: You feel like a champion. We could go home now

891
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: and you'll remember being a bit of a loser. We

892
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: gave up. Are we going to give up? I don't

893
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: want to give up. All I wanted to do was

894
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: just go get a beer. But I was like, let's

895
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 2: get the last two. But I had to carry the

896
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: eighteen kilo last come boys, let's go carry for a bit. Yeah,

897
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 2: just cooked, everything's cooked. But the tough one was the snow.

898
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 2: Taking two kids to the snow. I'd never been to

899
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: the snow. I'd never driven up to the snow by

900
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: Myself's a recipe for disasters. Yeah, the room was two

901
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 2: hundred meters from the car, but in a blizzard, going

902
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 2: down a hill with an eighteen kilo kid and a

903
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: thing and a suitcase and a fact.

904
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 3: That was the snow adds a layer of complexity. That, yeah,

905
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 3: it's not needed.

906
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: I literally went to the shop and it was drizzling

907
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: and got macie other car and walked from the car

908
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: park to the open and she was just.

909
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: Like, I can't imagine her in the snow. We went

910
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 2: to boggling, so you just sit on a tobog. The

911
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: oldest could go by himself, so he'd go down, and

912
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 2: then I'd go down with the youngest. And the problem is,

913
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 2: though you go down together, but you've got to use

914
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,479
Speaker 2: your feet as breaks, and when you slam your feet

915
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: into the snow, snow kicks up, but it gets you

916
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: a chest level. But it was just fucking cover. And

917
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: he was just like throwing punches at at snow, trying it.

918
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 2: And then when the fiver I wanted to do one

919
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: more run on the tobomo. He'd done about ten of them.

920
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: He had a blind he was loving it. And of

921
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: course it's like one more dad, And I'd heard so

922
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 2: many dads tell me that if there's ever going to

923
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 2: be a mistake, one more fangs down this mountain. Then

924
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: just decides to go ninety degrees to the left through

925
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: this mesh sort of fence that hit him there, so

926
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 2: it looks like his head's come off smashed into the snow.

927
00:46:54,600 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 2: But I'm up top I can hear him. You go, go, bud,

928
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: you're right right mate, right, I'm like, he's not all right.

929
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 2: It's got my pleasure. I've got to do a head

930
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: injury assessment on him. This is in the eyes, just

931
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 2: lay out. I don't move elevated. But he had to

932
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: carry his toboggan back up after acting himself because I

933
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 2: couldn't get down with the mate. Let's to boggle down,

934
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 2: get Charlie. We've got to help him out. And as

935
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: soon as I'd sit the young bloke on these like no, no, no, no, no,

936
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: I know what happens. Shit, the snow was just like

937
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 2: twenty four hour. He's got great memories to favor of,

938
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: like playing in the snow, throwing snowballs to bolganing. But

939
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 2: that's twenty minutes of that twenty four hours. Just fuck

940
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 2: it goes so sly. Yeah, definitely needed another pair of hands.

941
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 3: But is there another trip on the cards after this one?

942
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 3: Like we step it up a notch.

943
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think I'll have to do it again.

944
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 2: We might come up to Sydney. Actually, did you get

945
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 2: your dad credit? First of all, oh so much, my wife,

946
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 2: I'm giving it to you. Just admit, she kept saying,

947
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: just admit it was hard. Soon it was really easy.

948
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 2: Oh no, I.

949
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 3: Like Max in a wheelchair.

950
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: We spoke yesterday after you said I took the kids

951
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 1: away on my own and we both went fuck that.

952
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 1: So you've got one up on us as visual.

953
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. If you think it's going to be a normal

954
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: holiday now with kids, you're not you used to have.

955
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: I'm so frustrated at the airport and all sorts of

956
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: things like now that I used to be like, oh,

957
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: we grab the bag. Now I'm like, get the bag,

958
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: get to the higher car.

959
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 2: One of one of the best bits. I don't know

960
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 2: how your wives pack, but three months before and everything that, everything,

961
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: the kitchen sinks in them. They're first drawing a fucking

962
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 2: old passport. What's going on? And we have to bring

963
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 2: a suitcase full of nappies. It's like we went down

964
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 2: to the Gold Coasts they sell them there. What the

965
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: fuck are we doing? We went to Balley and my wife's.

966
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: Like, why do you have so many suitcases? And she's like,

967
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: we'll go to have all the nappies. I was like,

968
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,439
Speaker 1: first of all, they sell nappies there. She's like, they're

969
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: not going to be the same, and I was like,

970
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: they are going to be the same. Like you understand

971
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: that tourists go there all the time, right, yeah.

972
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, do you know what we

973
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: should do?

974
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: We should putting in my board bag just to protect

975
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: the surfboards.

976
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 2: Smart that's that's a dad brain.

977
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: And I was like, sweet, let's do that. Save us

978
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: a whole nother suitcase. Anyway, the surfboard didn't turn up.

979
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 2: Oh, and she was like, I told you this would happen.

980
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 2: And I was like, look, we'll go to the shop

981
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: lo and behold, guess what.

982
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: They've got their fucking nappy and they got a whole

983
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: wall of them and.

984
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 2: She was like oh. I was like, oh my gosh.

985
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 2: So that was one of the best bits was because

986
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 2: I've the most frustrated I've ever been. I reckon is

987
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: my wife saying, hey, don't worry, I've got myself and

988
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: the boys covered. You just pack whatever you need. So

989
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 2: she'll pack it all and then you go, hey, you

990
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 2: go put it in the car. And I'm like, this

991
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 2: is like tetrist, that's fucking my spine. The concept of

992
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: space is not know what, you expected me to try

993
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: and fire around here, find a way it gets done.

994
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 2: But I'm always frustrated. So the fact that I got

995
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 2: to pack it's like minimal. Take one pair of shorts. Yeah,

996
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: one shirt, Dad, I want to jump in the mud.

997
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 2: Well you got no other clothes.

998
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 3: I thought you were going to say that we're going

999
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 3: to try and walk across another boards like, Dad, come,

1000
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 3: I need the credit.

1001
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 2: It was funny. Yeah, it was just great. I don't know.

1002
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,959
Speaker 2: It was like little weird bits of it were fun.

1003
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: Like we're driving through like the Dandi in I'm standing

1004
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 2: Victoria and I want can we get some fruit? I

1005
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, for sure, I've reckoned. There's places around

1006
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: here itself, there'd be little farms and packed it. But

1007
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 2: we're hunter gatherers. When are these pretty prepared. Let's go

1008
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: and get it ourselves. But you know, like we're driving

1009
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 2: through and he's like, Dad, look at this sign. It

1010
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: was just a massive painted apple. I'm like, yeah, man,

1011
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 2: let's go in there. And it happened to be an

1012
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: org that that had heaps then you know, just those

1013
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 2: things they remember, like two massive bags of apples. Yeah,

1014
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 2: kids are like this is this is crazy to see

1015
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: that big apple. Yeah, sh they forget the snow. Yeah

1016
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 2: you don't remember a big bag of apples? Yeah, absolutely,

1017
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 2: But in like three years time, they'll be like that

1018
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 2: big bag was. Like friends of my wife took their

1019
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: kids on like an eight month caravanning trip or something

1020
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 2: like so long, and then when they got back and

1021
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 2: asked the kids, what was your favorite part? And I'm like, dad,

1022
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 2: remember that caravan park when the Pooh truck came and

1023
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:36,479
Speaker 2: pumped all the pool out of the like we could

1024
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 2: have just gone.

1025
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, before we go. I do want to ask. Maybe

1026
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 3: there's there's no answer to this question, but I'll try

1027
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 3: my luck anyway. Is there any advice, like one particular

1028
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 3: saying that you would say could help any potential mums

1029
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 3: or dads out there who are expecting their first child.

1030
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 2: You go on as many dates as possible. Now, okay,

1031
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 2: I'm not This isn't even a tip for when the

1032
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 2: kid comes, because you don't know what you're going to get.

1033
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 2: That's the you know, you had a great sleeper ship sleeper.

1034
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 2: You don't know what's coming, but you can control what

1035
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 2: you do up until the baby comes. Very true, hopefully,

1036
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: and that would be just heaps of date nights suck

1037
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 2: a lot. We were that's what he's getting out. I reckon.

1038
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 2: We saw so many move like we were seeing the

1039
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 2: shittest movie, Like we just got through every every movie.

1040
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: We were just watching ship because we're like soon we

1041
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 2: won't be able to do now. People are like, have

1042
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: you seen I'm like, no, I don't know.

1043
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 1: I've seen the insides of my eyelids and that's about it.

1044
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: I haven't seen anything. It is just get here first,

1045
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 2: sex a lot. I did.

1046
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 3: You were going to say, go on, gett now.

1047
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, moms to be when you're pushing it out,

1048
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 2: it's not gonna hurt if you are gone.

1049
00:52:58,600 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 3: Absolute ye.

1050
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for having me. Really appreciate it.

1051
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: Love your bloke's work.

1052
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 3: If you've enjoyed this episode, we would love it if

1053
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,440
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1054
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 3: may benefit from having three dads, one of whom knows

1055
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,239
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1056
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 3: give us a review subscribe, we would also love that

1057
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,520
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1058
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 3: comment of.

1059
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: The review saying, just because you begged, and I'm going to

1060
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: leave you a review, But they gave us five stars,

1061
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: so that's nice.

1062
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 2: We beg for it.

1063
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 3: We'll see you guys next Wednesday.

1064
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 2: Nick, thanks again, thanks again, appreciate it.

1065
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 3: Two Doting Dads podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country

1066
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 3: throughout Australia and the connections to land, see and community.

1067
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,240
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1068
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,239
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1069
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1070
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