WEBVTT - FROM MARRIED TO FIRED! BECK TALKS CELEB APPRENTICE! 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.720 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:05.000 TV Reload the podcast last week. They might welcome back 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:08.039 to TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris and on this 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:11.280 podcast I go behind the scenes with the biggest players 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:14.640 in television. Each episode you will get a front row 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:19.560 seat with content makers like executive producers, writers, editors and 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:23.400 casting agents, plus the talent that we see on our screens. 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:27.400 TV Reload reloads the shows that you are currently watching 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:30.800 and gives you a better insight at our television industry 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:34.920 and streaming services today. On the podcast, I have beck Zemech, 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:38.280 who has gone from married at First Site to fired 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:41.280 at First Site. The former bride with an A grade 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:45.560 Television X Factor joined Channel nine season of Celebrity Apprentice 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:49.680 with her signature business smarts and her sassy remarks. This 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:52.640 new season of Celebrity Apprentice is on four nights a 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:55.280 week at seven thirty on Channel nine and it has 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:58.880 Lord Sugar back in Australia doing what he does best, 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:03.840 and that is terrors Australian celebrities. I love Celebrity Apprentice 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:06.520 and I think this show is brilliant. I like the 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:09.600 way that the drama keeps building and I appreciate the 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:13.080 fact that you might not necessarily know all the celebs 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:16.040 like you may big named celebs like Nicole Kidman or 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:19.319 Hugh Jackman. But the more you watch this series, the 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:21.400 more you get to really know these people. 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:23.160 I also really. 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:25.680 Appreciate the support of the charities in this show, and 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:29.000 Beck will explain why she chose her charity today. In 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:32.320 our chat, we squashed some pretty big rumors. We go 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:35.360 behind the scenes on how this show is made, and 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:39.039 also we'll find out how Maths was quite different to 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:43.440 Celebrity Apprentice. However, let's get started with today's guest. I'd 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:47.000 like to welcome former Maths participant Beck to TV Reload. 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:49.960 When it comes to during the show minus, your thoughts 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:51.440 were absolutely not I. 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:54.960 Set the rules, I asked the questions, and I make 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:56.040 the final decision. 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:58.960 There was times where I was running off to Roman. 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:03.320 You can from the star started lineup of Australian icons. 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:06.080 I think, out of everyone, the producers must have found 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:07.480 him the hardest to deal with. 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:11.160 They've all signed on to raise mind blowing money for 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:12.400 deserving charity. 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:14.239 At the end of the day, I'd already had a 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:16.799 villain edit. What's the I thing that can happen as 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:21.320 they battle it out to become the next celepard or apprentice. 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:25.840 I one hundred percent felt that it was her trying 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:29.079 to relate me back to married at first sight payback. 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:29.720 How are you? 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:31.600 I'm fantastic. How are you? 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:35.680 I'm doing very well. Look, congratulations on your time on 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:38.880 Celebrity Apprentice. I loved you on the show and was 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:41.240 really looking forward to seeing more of you. 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:44.680 Thank you. I actually really enjoyed being on the show. 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.720 It was such an incredible experience. 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:50.080 My first question that I really want to ask you 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:53.960 is are the cast more ruthless this year than ever before? 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:58.480 I'd say no, because behind the scenes we are just 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:03.359 one big, happy family, just an absolute, outstanding, amazing group 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:08.040 of support. On camera, though, I think I think Lord 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:11.280 Sugar is a bit sassy, more sassy than I thought 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.600 he would ever be, and he does push a few buttons. 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:18.000 And you were all married at first sight, as I 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:21.280 was well reading your resume, Mate, it might be five 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:22.200 at first glance. 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:27.520 He's very good at that and it kind of explodes. 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:31.720 So I think everyone was confident to go in there thinking, 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:34.680 you know, game on, this is a competition, and no 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:36.960 one really took it to hearts. So I think it's 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:40.920 going to come across really ruthless, but in reality, it's 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:43.200 not like that at all. So yeah, it would be 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:44.680 interesting to see how it plays out. 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:48.120 So everyone is still on the Christmas list at this point. 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:49.880 Absolutely, everyone's on the Christmas List. 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.400 Well, I guess that's the question that everyone wants to 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:57.320 know about this iteration of Celebrity Apprentice, is how scary 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:59.800 is Lord Sugar in between shooting? 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:04.080 Well, he runs the show pretty much, so if he 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:06.680 doesn't want to do a wide shot, we're not doing 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:09.360 a wide shot, and we're happy with that, but obviously 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:13.160 producers aren't. And I think out of everyone, the producers 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:16.320 must have found him the hardest to deal with, maybe 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:19.440 not wanting to do a certain scene or say something again, 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:23.200 or especially with wide passes. He got very impatient in those. 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:26.159 And other than that, you know, I think he's a 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:29.080 great guy, but you don't really know because he does 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:30.559 hold his cards very close. 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:33.920 You can't exactly be handing out cupcakes and doing multiple 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:37.200 shots and being really accommodating because that's off brand for 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:37.680 who he is. 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:41.719 Yeah, that's right. He was definitely not accommodating for anyone 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:45.080 as well. But I found him freaking hilarious. I loved it, 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.040 and he had some really good one liners. 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.080 Did you take any ideas from Martha from last year? 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:53.120 I must admit I thought Martha did very well last year, 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:56.039 and I went into watching that series thinking I didn't 0:04:56.080 --> 0:05:01.160 really like Martha that much and then walked away loving her. So, yeah, 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:03.080 did you hit her up for any ideas? 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:07.120 I didn't. Actually, I thought, you know, with TV and 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:10.599 what plays out, it never is what it is, So 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:13.800 I've learned that from previous TV shows, and I thought 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:17.000 I'd just go into this, you know, knowing what can 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:20.360 happen and how you know edits and things can work. 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:24.159 So I just wanted to have a full experience, not knowing, 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:26.880 you know, what I was getting myself into. I didn't 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:29.120 want to know any tips to like kind of help 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:32.159 me out, to get me any further in kind of 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:34.440 doing the dossiers and the challenges and things like that. 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:36.720 We want to talk about a big rumor that's been 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:38.159 floating around for a while now. 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:40.560 How did Celebrity Apprentice come up? 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:43.440 There have been a few rumors of a quid pro 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:47.200 quo situation, where did you agree to something in the 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.800 final filming of merrit at First Sight in order to 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:51.799 secure a spot on this show. 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:58.800 Oh, very interesting. Absolutely not, that's kind of that's quite 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:00.160 an interesting. 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:02.719 That have you not heard that one before? 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:06.160 I haven't heard that one. There's a bit of a 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:10.599 conspiracy theory that one no, so Married at First Site 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:14.000 has absolutely nothing to do with this M Dolshine are 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:16.240 the ones that make Married at First Site and then 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:20.120 they send it to Channel nine and Warner Brothers do 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:25.400 Celebrity Apprentice, so it's a completely different production company. However, 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:29.719 the producers that decided to leave and go to Warner Brothers, 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:31.960 a few of them were from Made at First Site. 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:34.480 I think they married. I've had something to be like 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:38.200 Beck would be all bloody good at this show. They 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:41.040 know me, you know, very well, from being on Made 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:42.880 at First Site, and I think my name got put 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:45.480 in the mix when it comes to during the show. 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:50.160 My initial thoughts were absolutely not until I had a 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:54.800 few conversations with a few people, like within the production company, 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:59.360 and yeah, then I thought why not? Like this is different, 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:02.240 this is enough ortunity to raise money for charity, Like 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:04.240 I mean of bit selfish if I don't want to 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:07.039 go do something like that in my life. So yeah, 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:10.160 that's how it came up. It really wasn't anything other 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:10.480 than that. 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.240 You know, those rumors sound to me like they've surfaced 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:16.560 from somebody else's retelling of your story. And so the 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:19.040 rumor was you know that there was an edit or 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:21.600 there was something that finished off your time or married 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:24.080 at first sight. That was a little bit controversial that 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.480 a lot of people felt at the time that you 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:28.640 should have stood up and said, hey, that's not exactly 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.440 how it happened, but you were silenced to get a 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:33.400 spot on this show. So I think it's a really 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:36.880 good chat for us to have to tell the truth. Yeah. 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:41.680 Look, so with contracts, especially since probably your day on 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:45.400 reality TV, like the contracts have been getting tighter and 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:48.720 thicker and thicker and thicker and thicker to make sure 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:51.720 that you do not speak like the first thing you 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:54.360 do before you even get on TV, sign these contracts 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:58.080 that pretty much say like you will not speak up 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:02.000 against absolutely anything on the show. And every year when 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.280 something happens, if someone tries to speak up, they pretty 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:06.320 much go back and go, oh, we didn't have that contract. 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:08.880 Let's put it in. So I was married at first night, 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:13.080 season what eight? So they've had eight years to perfect 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:17.040 this contract now, So it's not about people not wanting 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:20.000 to speak up. Like, let's make that clear. I think 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:22.320 everyone wants to have their say about what happens, and 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:25.720 I think because some people don't have that say, it 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:29.240 does mentally affect them heavily. I wouldn't say I didn't 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:31.400 have my say. I did on a few podcasts and 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:35.800 actually chat about what actually happened as soon as the 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.720 show ended. And you'll probably be the same with you know, 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:40.920 Celebrity Apprentice. You know, there's only so much you can 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:43.840 say until you're off embargo, but it just takes so long, 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.400 and they do that on purpose because the show's in 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:49.000 and out. It's dead by then. People don't care. It's 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:52.320 old news. So yeah, you have to really just ride 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:55.320 the wave and that's that's what that's what you have 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:58.320 to do. Yeah, there's nothing out, No, unless you really 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:02.559 want to get taken to call and go against Channel nine. 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:06.800 I don't have the money to do that. If someone does, eventually, 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.360 they probably wouldn't have put someone that rich on the show. 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:11.719 So if you're rich and you wanted to get on 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:14.440 married at first art, you probably might be. 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:16.600 You know, what's so funny is that this is like 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:19.920 a common thing amongst the media circuit that the villains 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:25.320 on reality television are actually the nicest to meet an interview. 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:27.880 And it's so true. 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:31.400 Like I've been doing interviewing and podcasting for a while now, 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:33.680 and sometimes I'll be a little bit scared of people 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:36.680 before chatting with them one on one, and then every 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:41.280 single time without fail, I can list Ginaliano. Actually, let's 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:43.360 not list people in case I get myself into trouble. 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:48.600 But the villains aren't normally much nicer, And I wonder 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:51.040 whether or not you have a theory on that. What 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.560 do you think the theory on being a villain on 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:57.280 reality television is to then being the nicest people to 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:58.360 be interviewed in the media. 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:02.719 Yeah. Look, I think when it comes to the villain edit, 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:06.400 the way they're able to edit a villain is because 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:10.280 you have said things that might be controversial or are 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:12.880 open and honest. So it's not as if anything ever 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.120 comes I guess from a bad place. I think it's 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:18.880 more so you're not afraid to speak your mind. You're 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:23.400 someone who's quite comfortable in your own skin, and when 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:26.640 you then I guess, step out of that reality and 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.839 that TV show. You're still that person that is able 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:32.560 to speak their mind and I think is comfortable in 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:35.080 their skin, where I guess some of the other people, 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:37.960 even though they come off really nice, then they're not 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:42.120 and they're nervous and they're timid, and they find it 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:44.400 hard to be in the public eye, Whereas I think 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.280 villains are able to take it. I think they especially 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.800 when they know that you can take it, that's when 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:53.360 they'll give it to you as well. So I don't know, 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.480 you just get put between a rock and a hard place. 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:57.560 Especially with the amount of hours of filming you do, 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.959 you just really don't know how it's going to play out. 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.080 I'm curious whether celebrities on this sort of a show 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:06.800 do they lean into their brand or do they try 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.440 and create something new. And I'll give you the example 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:12.200 of you know, Gamble, she kind of seemed to be 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:15.840 leaning into her housewives brand. What's going on for you? 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:18.360 Are you leaning into your merit at first sight brand? 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:21.280 Or are you trying to create something new for frustrated to see. 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:24.040 I think Gamble is just like that. I think she's 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:29.359 definitely a real housewife through and through on an offscreen 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:34.120 She is absolutely just hilarious and no filter that is 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:37.680 actually Gamble is the person, which is quite funny. She 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:39.840 probably could have leaned a bit more into her business 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:43.240 side of things, but I think I went in more 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:48.240 so with who I am and what I'm not through business. 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:52.600 I've been doing business since I think I got my 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.720 first error manager role when I was nineteen, So business 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.560 has been a massive part of my life. And I 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.440 went in then quite confident knowing that I knew quite 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:04.080 a lot about these things. So when I got given tasks, 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:06.160 I felt like I was back in school wanting to be, 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:09.760 you know, the eight grade kind of child. And you know, 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:11.360 that's kind of the way I grew up. I was 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:14.160 in a very strict family where you know, straight a's 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:18.960 don't fail, and I used to get I guess fulfillment 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:22.880 for you know, winning, and I just kind of brought 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:25.679 that back for me, and yeah, I just wanted to 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:28.160 see everyone achieve. I was even studying once to be 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:31.520 a teacher. I just always have had this thing about 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:34.760 me where I want everyone to learn and grow and 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:38.319 do it as a team. And I just absolutely thrived 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:40.319 being around in that environment. I loved it. 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:42.559 So then watching the show last night. 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:44.040 Did you think that we got to see that or 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:46.679 do you think that we got to see beck from 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:47.520 Married at First Sight? 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:49.600 Again? Like, what was your take home from watching the 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:50.360 show last night? 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:53.040 Based on I think like a lot of things that 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:56.960 have come through my social media and support networks and 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.080 things like that. A lot of people were saying like, 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:02.360 don't know why you got fired. You're not one to 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.760 say you know, only a few words, like I think 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.200 it doesn't really quite make sense for everyone at the moment, 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:12.120 so maybe everyone needs to keep watching to see what 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:17.440 happens down the track in the show, however, again can't 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:21.719 control edits but the day goes not just for one day, 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:25.520 that's actually over two entire days, our golf days. So 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:27.719 if you think about the boys doing it versus the 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:32.200 girls and getting filmed for at least twenty hours each, 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:35.640 that's already forty hours within itself without one hour must 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:39.800 interviews each person. So there's no way you can possibly 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.800 put in like what actually goes on in a day 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.720 at all. But I'm glad I got to live the 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.560 experience and be there for those two days, and you know, 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:51.240 see how all one plays and at the end of 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:56.400 the day, no one deserves to get fired ever, you know, 0:13:56.520 --> 0:14:00.400 no one's done anything wrong or purposely wrong. Producers love 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:06.280 to try make things go wrong, that's for sure. But yeah, no, 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:12.080 I feel that my ad verse even the episode. For example, 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:15.360 they use Samantha Jade's audio to say I'm nasty in 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:18.720 my opening ad before the show premieres, and then last 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:21.240 night it was very clear that Samantha Jade had actually 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.720 said that about Gamble. So it's just small things like that. 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:28.560 You know that those small tits and checks of editing 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:31.480 that I kind of can create whatever character you want. 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:34.680 You're kind of familiar with this kind of territory more 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.240 so than anyone else on the shows. And I am 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:40.400 loving chatting with you today about this because you were 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:42.480 just coppying it on the chin. You're like, you know, 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:44.520 I know what I'm in for, I know what's going 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:46.080 to happen, and I'm okay with it. 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:46.480 Yeah. 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:48.800 I think going in, like, if you're ever going to 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:52.760 do a second TV show, especially after something like Marde 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:58.120 at first sight, it can never be as bad. No, 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:01.800 I think this time's a bit different because I found 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:05.000 purpose and meaning going onto the show. Obviously, raising money 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:08.280 for charity is a very different ballgame. And at the 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.040 end of the day, I already had a villain edit. 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:12.480 What's the thing that can happen? You have another one, 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:16.240 or you have a slightly better one. So arms all 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.840 for it. And I'm like a D grade celebrity. I 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:22.200 got to hang out with some A grade celebs all day, 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:25.440 all the time. I now know Benji Marshall like, who 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:28.040 would not take an opportunity like that? It's pretty black, 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:29.520 bloody awesome, you. 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:32.200 Know, talking about the boys on their side. You know, 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:34.840 I've been lucky enough to see a couple of episodes, 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:38.920 but so far, I want to know is Darren leaning 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:42.320 into this villain role or is he unaware of how 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:44.280 he's coming across. I mean, have you had to pull 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:46.560 him aside and say, I've been on maths, You've got 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:48.440 to be careful of this, or do you think he's 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:48.920 owning it? 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:54.000 I think he's owning it. Darren is very confident within 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.720 himself and he actually I don't think he has done 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:01.360 like actual reality TV before, so I think he thinks 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:03.520 his The thing is when you do like an Hour 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:07.240 Master interview, if you make true Snyde comments and the 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.080 rest are beautiful. They've only got time to show to 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:12.400 Snyde comments, so they're probably the ones that are going 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:17.640 to get shown. I think Darren is so good at heart. 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:22.600 I've really valued Darren, even behind the scenes, and it 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:25.240 was part of the show. He really you know, I 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:27.200 don't know, he just gave a new lease of life 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:31.080 some days where it was just getting very dull. However, yeah, 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:34.480 I don't think he thought through a few of his comments, 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:37.640 unless again they've kind of pieced them together where he 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:38.640 looks like a bit of an. 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:43.000 Asshole who's a threat at the moment. I would have 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:44.680 to say probably Darren I. 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:46.920 Was hoping to take over Lord Sugar's position when he 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:47.520 looked the part. 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:49.800 You know, you got cash, but I have a lord. 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:54.880 Though it's still good television. What do you think We're 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:59.080 the most different aspects of filming Celebrity Apprentice over filming 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.280 something like Meredith. So it's like, I mean, they're both 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:05.000 Channel Line productions, they're both beautifully shot, you know, everyone 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:08.640 looks so glamorous, but again they are still very different 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:09.840 types of reality. 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:14.000 So this one is much more I guess structured. So 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:17.320 you know that you're going to be waking up going 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:19.520 into a task you have a cool time. They actually 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.800 do your hair, makeup, wardrobe on Celebrity Apprentice, so that 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:27.359 is a massive, massive win. You're able to actually mingle 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:32.320 with the contestants off camera, which is fantastic as well. 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:36.399 Whereas in Made at First Sight you're pretty much living 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:40.560 in a box and you're not really knowing what's coming 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:43.640 up next until that very kind of day or second 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:47.159 where it's like, okay, today, it's now your next commitment ceremony. 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.960 It's not as if every Saturday is the commitment ceremony, 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:53.320 you know, it's whenever we're going to have one. I guess. 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:56.200 With Celebrity Apprentice, you kind of already have the gist 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:58.280 of how the day's going to play out, what you 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:00.399 need to do, and then you'll go and do a 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:04.440 master interview afterwards, so you actually get to sleep on it, 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:07.640 reflect and then sit down whether the exact same outfit, 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.640 and then do your master interviews the next day where 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.320 you'll go through the entire day, whereas on marriede at 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:17.040 First Site you will have emotions about something and then 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:20.040 get pulled aside and then get questioned and questioned and questioned, 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:22.399 not knowing how long these questions are going to go 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:26.040 for until you finally get pulled back into your little 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:30.280 bubble of isolation with your partner. So I think the 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:34.199 pretty much the biggest difference is like the support network, 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:38.560 the communication, the I guess you're not taking away like 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:41.080 your ability to just go and talk to people. And 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:43.320 you know, I know COVID does play a massive role 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:45.520 in that when you're trying to film as well, but 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:48.520 at least you are able to talk off screen, You're 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:52.120 able to catch up with people, get to know these people. 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:56.480 I find that even though Selebly apprenticed didn't when in 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:59.160 film for as long as Married at first sight, I 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:03.479 know the cast so much better like personally because we 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:05.560 actually were able to speak, rather than I'm married at 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:08.720 first sight, where I still could say only no, you 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:11.120 know five minutes of these people where we actually did 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:14.080 speak quickly and or after the show kind of thing. 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:15.320 It's very different. 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:18.359 You know, how long are those boardroom sessions because they 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:21.719 are so punchy on television then they're so fast, but 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:24.080 I'm sure they must take a while to film. How 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:25.960 long are you sitting there in front of Lord Sugar? 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:28.440 Oh they take a whole day. But the great thing 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:31.440 is compared to a dinner party where they wo'ld start 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:33.880 it at nighttime and you would run till three am. 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:38.359 They'll let us sleep in, start at nine o'clock, ten o'clock. Obviously, 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:40.520 with Lord Sugar around, it will take as long as 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:43.560 he wants it to take, but it's usually just a day. 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:46.600 It's a day's worth. The crazy thing about it is 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:49.560 the amount of camera angles they want to take from 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:52.800 a boardroom. They need to move lights, which means everyone 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:55.240 has to accept the room. We have to walk into 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:57.240 that room. Well, we have to actually walk into the 0:19:57.280 --> 0:20:00.920 foyer three four times, and then we walk into the 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:02.960 room three four times, and then we exit the room 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:06.919 three four times. It takes a long long time, especially 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:09.960 because they want everyone serious face, so they'll actually bring 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:12.640 a camera around for everyone's serious face. If anyone cracks it, 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:15.639 they pretty much have to start again. So we're just 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:18.560 sitting there like, no one crack a smile, like, let's 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:19.280 just get through this. 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:21.680 Yeah. 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:24.200 And then obviously when we're talking about how that the 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:28.680 day unraveled, Lord Sugar will make sure he talks pretty much, well, yeah, 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:31.040 he would make sure he talks absolutely everyone. Everyone needs 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:33.840 to be able to have said something for them to 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:36.720