Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
Speaker 1: TV Reload the podcast last week. They might welcome back
Speaker 1: to TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris and on this
Speaker 1: podcast I go behind the scenes with the biggest players
Speaker 1: in television. Each episode you will get a front row
Speaker 1: seat with content makers like executive producers, writers, editors and
Speaker 1: casting agents, plus the talent that we see on our screens.
Speaker 1: TV Reload reloads the shows that you are currently watching
Speaker 1: and gives you a better insight at our television industry
Speaker 1: and streaming services today. On the podcast, I have beck Zemech,
Speaker 1: who has gone from married at First Site to fired
Speaker 1: at First Site. The former bride with an A grade
Speaker 1: Television X Factor joined Channel nine season of Celebrity Apprentice
Speaker 1: with her signature business smarts and her sassy remarks. This
Speaker 1: new season of Celebrity Apprentice is on four nights a
Speaker 1: week at seven thirty on Channel nine and it has
Speaker 1: Lord Sugar back in Australia doing what he does best,
Speaker 1: and that is terrors Australian celebrities. I love Celebrity Apprentice
Speaker 1: and I think this show is brilliant. I like the
Speaker 1: way that the drama keeps building and I appreciate the
Speaker 1: fact that you might not necessarily know all the celebs
Speaker 1: like you may big named celebs like Nicole Kidman or
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackman. But the more you watch this series, the
Speaker 1: more you get to really know these people.
Speaker 2: I also really.
Speaker 1: Appreciate the support of the charities in this show, and
Speaker 1: Beck will explain why she chose her charity today. In
Speaker 1: our chat, we squashed some pretty big rumors. We go
Speaker 1: behind the scenes on how this show is made, and
Speaker 1: also we'll find out how Maths was quite different to
Speaker 1: Celebrity Apprentice. However, let's get started with today's guest. I'd
Speaker 1: like to welcome former Maths participant Beck to TV Reload.
Speaker 3: When it comes to during the show minus, your thoughts
Speaker 3: were absolutely not I.
Speaker 4: Set the rules, I asked the questions, and I make
Speaker 4: the final decision.
Speaker 3: There was times where I was running off to Roman.
Speaker 3: You can from the star started lineup of Australian icons.
Speaker 3: I think, out of everyone, the producers must have found
Speaker 3: him the hardest to deal with.
Speaker 1: They've all signed on to raise mind blowing money for
Speaker 1: deserving charity.
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, I'd already had a
Speaker 3: villain edit. What's the I thing that can happen as
Speaker 3: they battle it out to become the next celepard or apprentice.
Speaker 3: I one hundred percent felt that it was her trying
Speaker 3: to relate me back to married at first sight payback.
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 3: I'm fantastic. How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing very well. Look, congratulations on your time on
Speaker 1: Celebrity Apprentice. I loved you on the show and was
Speaker 1: really looking forward to seeing more of you.
Speaker 3: Thank you. I actually really enjoyed being on the show.
Speaker 3: It was such an incredible experience.
Speaker 1: My first question that I really want to ask you
Speaker 1: is are the cast more ruthless this year than ever before?
Speaker 3: I'd say no, because behind the scenes we are just
Speaker 3: one big, happy family, just an absolute, outstanding, amazing group
Speaker 3: of support. On camera, though, I think I think Lord
Speaker 3: Sugar is a bit sassy, more sassy than I thought
Speaker 3: he would ever be, and he does push a few buttons.
Speaker 2: And you were all married at first sight, as I
Speaker 2: was well reading your resume, Mate, it might be five
Speaker 2: at first glance.
Speaker 3: He's very good at that and it kind of explodes.
Speaker 3: So I think everyone was confident to go in there thinking,
Speaker 3: you know, game on, this is a competition, and no
Speaker 3: one really took it to hearts. So I think it's
Speaker 3: going to come across really ruthless, but in reality, it's
Speaker 3: not like that at all. So yeah, it would be
Speaker 3: interesting to see how it plays out.
Speaker 2: So everyone is still on the Christmas list at this point.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, everyone's on the Christmas List.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess that's the question that everyone wants to
Speaker 1: know about this iteration of Celebrity Apprentice, is how scary
Speaker 1: is Lord Sugar in between shooting?
Speaker 3: Well, he runs the show pretty much, so if he
Speaker 3: doesn't want to do a wide shot, we're not doing
Speaker 3: a wide shot, and we're happy with that, but obviously
Speaker 3: producers aren't. And I think out of everyone, the producers
Speaker 3: must have found him the hardest to deal with, maybe
Speaker 3: not wanting to do a certain scene or say something again,
Speaker 3: or especially with wide passes. He got very impatient in those.
Speaker 3: And other than that, you know, I think he's a
Speaker 3: great guy, but you don't really know because he does
Speaker 3: hold his cards very close.
Speaker 1: You can't exactly be handing out cupcakes and doing multiple
Speaker 1: shots and being really accommodating because that's off brand for
Speaker 1: who he is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. He was definitely not accommodating for anyone
Speaker 3: as well. But I found him freaking hilarious. I loved it,
Speaker 3: and he had some really good one liners.
Speaker 1: Did you take any ideas from Martha from last year?
Speaker 1: I must admit I thought Martha did very well last year,
Speaker 1: and I went into watching that series thinking I didn't
Speaker 1: really like Martha that much and then walked away loving her. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: did you hit her up for any ideas?
Speaker 3: I didn't. Actually, I thought, you know, with TV and
Speaker 3: what plays out, it never is what it is, So
Speaker 3: I've learned that from previous TV shows, and I thought
Speaker 3: I'd just go into this, you know, knowing what can
Speaker 3: happen and how you know edits and things can work.
Speaker 3: So I just wanted to have a full experience, not knowing,
Speaker 3: you know, what I was getting myself into. I didn't
Speaker 3: want to know any tips to like kind of help
Speaker 3: me out, to get me any further in kind of
Speaker 3: doing the dossiers and the challenges and things like that.
Speaker 1: We want to talk about a big rumor that's been
Speaker 1: floating around for a while now.
Speaker 2: How did Celebrity Apprentice come up?
Speaker 1: There have been a few rumors of a quid pro
Speaker 1: quo situation, where did you agree to something in the
Speaker 1: final filming of merrit at First Sight in order to
Speaker 1: secure a spot on this show.
Speaker 3: Oh, very interesting. Absolutely not, that's kind of that's quite
Speaker 3: an interesting.
Speaker 2: That have you not heard that one before?
Speaker 3: I haven't heard that one. There's a bit of a
Speaker 3: conspiracy theory that one no, so Married at First Site
Speaker 3: has absolutely nothing to do with this M Dolshine are
Speaker 3: the ones that make Married at First Site and then
Speaker 3: they send it to Channel nine and Warner Brothers do
Speaker 3: Celebrity Apprentice, so it's a completely different production company. However,
Speaker 3: the producers that decided to leave and go to Warner Brothers,
Speaker 3: a few of them were from Made at First Site.
Speaker 3: I think they married. I've had something to be like
Speaker 3: Beck would be all bloody good at this show. They
Speaker 3: know me, you know, very well, from being on Made
Speaker 3: at First Site, and I think my name got put
Speaker 3: in the mix when it comes to during the show.
Speaker 3: My initial thoughts were absolutely not until I had a
Speaker 3: few conversations with a few people, like within the production company,
Speaker 3: and yeah, then I thought why not? Like this is different,
Speaker 3: this is enough ortunity to raise money for charity, Like
Speaker 3: I mean of bit selfish if I don't want to
Speaker 3: go do something like that in my life. So yeah,
Speaker 3: that's how it came up. It really wasn't anything other
Speaker 3: than that.
Speaker 1: You know, those rumors sound to me like they've surfaced
Speaker 1: from somebody else's retelling of your story. And so the
Speaker 1: rumor was you know that there was an edit or
Speaker 1: there was something that finished off your time or married
Speaker 1: at first sight. That was a little bit controversial that
Speaker 1: a lot of people felt at the time that you
Speaker 1: should have stood up and said, hey, that's not exactly
Speaker 1: how it happened, but you were silenced to get a
Speaker 1: spot on this show. So I think it's a really
Speaker 1: good chat for us to have to tell the truth. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Look, so with contracts, especially since probably your day on
Speaker 3: reality TV, like the contracts have been getting tighter and
Speaker 3: thicker and thicker and thicker and thicker to make sure
Speaker 3: that you do not speak like the first thing you
Speaker 3: do before you even get on TV, sign these contracts
Speaker 3: that pretty much say like you will not speak up
Speaker 3: against absolutely anything on the show. And every year when
Speaker 3: something happens, if someone tries to speak up, they pretty
Speaker 3: much go back and go, oh, we didn't have that contract.
Speaker 3: Let's put it in. So I was married at first night,
Speaker 3: season what eight? So they've had eight years to perfect
Speaker 3: this contract now, So it's not about people not wanting
Speaker 3: to speak up. Like, let's make that clear. I think
Speaker 3: everyone wants to have their say about what happens, and
Speaker 3: I think because some people don't have that say, it
Speaker 3: does mentally affect them heavily. I wouldn't say I didn't
Speaker 3: have my say. I did on a few podcasts and
Speaker 3: actually chat about what actually happened as soon as the
Speaker 3: show ended. And you'll probably be the same with you know,
Speaker 3: Celebrity Apprentice. You know, there's only so much you can
Speaker 3: say until you're off embargo, but it just takes so long,
Speaker 3: and they do that on purpose because the show's in
Speaker 3: and out. It's dead by then. People don't care. It's
Speaker 3: old news. So yeah, you have to really just ride
Speaker 3: the wave and that's that's what that's what you have
Speaker 3: to do. Yeah, there's nothing out, No, unless you really
Speaker 3: want to get taken to call and go against Channel nine.
Speaker 3: I don't have the money to do that. If someone does, eventually,
Speaker 3: they probably wouldn't have put someone that rich on the show.
Speaker 3: So if you're rich and you wanted to get on
Speaker 3: married at first art, you probably might be.
Speaker 1: You know, what's so funny is that this is like
Speaker 1: a common thing amongst the media circuit that the villains
Speaker 1: on reality television are actually the nicest to meet an interview.
Speaker 2: And it's so true.
Speaker 1: Like I've been doing interviewing and podcasting for a while now,
Speaker 1: and sometimes I'll be a little bit scared of people
Speaker 1: before chatting with them one on one, and then every
Speaker 1: single time without fail, I can list Ginaliano. Actually, let's
Speaker 1: not list people in case I get myself into trouble.
Speaker 1: But the villains aren't normally much nicer, And I wonder
Speaker 1: whether or not you have a theory on that. What
Speaker 1: do you think the theory on being a villain on
Speaker 1: reality television is to then being the nicest people to
Speaker 1: be interviewed in the media.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, I think when it comes to the villain edit,
Speaker 3: the way they're able to edit a villain is because
Speaker 3: you have said things that might be controversial or are
Speaker 3: open and honest. So it's not as if anything ever
Speaker 3: comes I guess from a bad place. I think it's
Speaker 3: more so you're not afraid to speak your mind. You're
Speaker 3: someone who's quite comfortable in your own skin, and when
Speaker 3: you then I guess, step out of that reality and
Speaker 3: that TV show. You're still that person that is able
Speaker 3: to speak their mind and I think is comfortable in
Speaker 3: their skin, where I guess some of the other people,
Speaker 3: even though they come off really nice, then they're not
Speaker 3: and they're nervous and they're timid, and they find it
Speaker 3: hard to be in the public eye, Whereas I think
Speaker 3: villains are able to take it. I think they especially
Speaker 3: when they know that you can take it, that's when
Speaker 3: they'll give it to you as well. So I don't know,
Speaker 3: you just get put between a rock and a hard place.
Speaker 3: Especially with the amount of hours of filming you do,
Speaker 3: you just really don't know how it's going to play out.
Speaker 1: I'm curious whether celebrities on this sort of a show
Speaker 1: do they lean into their brand or do they try
Speaker 1: and create something new. And I'll give you the example
Speaker 1: of you know, Gamble, she kind of seemed to be
Speaker 1: leaning into her housewives brand. What's going on for you?
Speaker 1: Are you leaning into your merit at first sight brand?
Speaker 1: Or are you trying to create something new for frustrated to see.
Speaker 3: I think Gamble is just like that. I think she's
Speaker 3: definitely a real housewife through and through on an offscreen
Speaker 3: She is absolutely just hilarious and no filter that is
Speaker 3: actually Gamble is the person, which is quite funny. She
Speaker 3: probably could have leaned a bit more into her business
Speaker 3: side of things, but I think I went in more
Speaker 3: so with who I am and what I'm not through business.
Speaker 3: I've been doing business since I think I got my
Speaker 3: first error manager role when I was nineteen, So business
Speaker 3: has been a massive part of my life. And I
Speaker 3: went in then quite confident knowing that I knew quite
Speaker 3: a lot about these things. So when I got given tasks,
Speaker 3: I felt like I was back in school wanting to be,
Speaker 3: you know, the eight grade kind of child. And you know,
Speaker 3: that's kind of the way I grew up. I was
Speaker 3: in a very strict family where you know, straight a's
Speaker 3: don't fail, and I used to get I guess fulfillment
Speaker 3: for you know, winning, and I just kind of brought
Speaker 3: that back for me, and yeah, I just wanted to
Speaker 3: see everyone achieve. I was even studying once to be
Speaker 3: a teacher. I just always have had this thing about
Speaker 3: me where I want everyone to learn and grow and
Speaker 3: do it as a team. And I just absolutely thrived
Speaker 3: being around in that environment. I loved it.
Speaker 2: So then watching the show last night.
Speaker 1: Did you think that we got to see that or
Speaker 1: do you think that we got to see beck from
Speaker 1: Married at First Sight?
Speaker 2: Again? Like, what was your take home from watching the
Speaker 2: show last night?
Speaker 3: Based on I think like a lot of things that
Speaker 3: have come through my social media and support networks and
Speaker 3: things like that. A lot of people were saying like,
Speaker 3: don't know why you got fired. You're not one to
Speaker 3: say you know, only a few words, like I think
Speaker 3: it doesn't really quite make sense for everyone at the moment,
Speaker 3: so maybe everyone needs to keep watching to see what
Speaker 3: happens down the track in the show, however, again can't
Speaker 3: control edits but the day goes not just for one day,
Speaker 3: that's actually over two entire days, our golf days. So
Speaker 3: if you think about the boys doing it versus the
Speaker 3: girls and getting filmed for at least twenty hours each,
Speaker 3: that's already forty hours within itself without one hour must
Speaker 3: interviews each person. So there's no way you can possibly
Speaker 3: put in like what actually goes on in a day
Speaker 3: at all. But I'm glad I got to live the
Speaker 3: experience and be there for those two days, and you know,
Speaker 3: see how all one plays and at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, no one deserves to get fired ever, you know,
Speaker 3: no one's done anything wrong or purposely wrong. Producers love
Speaker 3: to try make things go wrong, that's for sure. But yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I feel that my ad verse even the episode. For example,
Speaker 3: they use Samantha Jade's audio to say I'm nasty in
Speaker 3: my opening ad before the show premieres, and then last
Speaker 3: night it was very clear that Samantha Jade had actually
Speaker 3: said that about Gamble. So it's just small things like that.
Speaker 3: You know that those small tits and checks of editing
Speaker 3: that I kind of can create whatever character you want.
Speaker 1: You're kind of familiar with this kind of territory more
Speaker 1: so than anyone else on the shows. And I am
Speaker 1: loving chatting with you today about this because you were
Speaker 1: just coppying it on the chin. You're like, you know,
Speaker 1: I know what I'm in for, I know what's going
Speaker 1: to happen, and I'm okay with it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think going in, like, if you're ever going to
Speaker 3: do a second TV show, especially after something like Marde
Speaker 3: at first sight, it can never be as bad. No,
Speaker 3: I think this time's a bit different because I found
Speaker 3: purpose and meaning going onto the show. Obviously, raising money
Speaker 3: for charity is a very different ballgame. And at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, I already had a villain edit.
Speaker 3: What's the thing that can happen? You have another one,
Speaker 3: or you have a slightly better one. So arms all
Speaker 3: for it. And I'm like a D grade celebrity. I
Speaker 3: got to hang out with some A grade celebs all day,
Speaker 3: all the time. I now know Benji Marshall like, who
Speaker 3: would not take an opportunity like that? It's pretty black,
Speaker 3: bloody awesome, you.
Speaker 1: Know, talking about the boys on their side. You know,
Speaker 1: I've been lucky enough to see a couple of episodes,
Speaker 1: but so far, I want to know is Darren leaning
Speaker 1: into this villain role or is he unaware of how
Speaker 1: he's coming across. I mean, have you had to pull
Speaker 1: him aside and say, I've been on maths, You've got
Speaker 1: to be careful of this, or do you think he's
Speaker 1: owning it?
Speaker 3: I think he's owning it. Darren is very confident within
Speaker 3: himself and he actually I don't think he has done
Speaker 3: like actual reality TV before, so I think he thinks
Speaker 3: his The thing is when you do like an Hour
Speaker 3: Master interview, if you make true Snyde comments and the
Speaker 3: rest are beautiful. They've only got time to show to
Speaker 3: Snyde comments, so they're probably the ones that are going
Speaker 3: to get shown. I think Darren is so good at heart.
Speaker 3: I've really valued Darren, even behind the scenes, and it
Speaker 3: was part of the show. He really you know, I
Speaker 3: don't know, he just gave a new lease of life
Speaker 3: some days where it was just getting very dull. However, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't think he thought through a few of his comments,
Speaker 3: unless again they've kind of pieced them together where he
Speaker 3: looks like a bit of an.
Speaker 2: Asshole who's a threat at the moment. I would have
Speaker 2: to say probably Darren I.
Speaker 1: Was hoping to take over Lord Sugar's position when he
Speaker 1: looked the part.
Speaker 4: You know, you got cash, but I have a lord.
Speaker 1: Though it's still good television. What do you think We're
Speaker 1: the most different aspects of filming Celebrity Apprentice over filming
Speaker 1: something like Meredith. So it's like, I mean, they're both
Speaker 1: Channel Line productions, they're both beautifully shot, you know, everyone
Speaker 1: looks so glamorous, but again they are still very different
Speaker 1: types of reality.
Speaker 3: So this one is much more I guess structured. So
Speaker 3: you know that you're going to be waking up going
Speaker 3: into a task you have a cool time. They actually
Speaker 3: do your hair, makeup, wardrobe on Celebrity Apprentice, so that
Speaker 3: is a massive, massive win. You're able to actually mingle
Speaker 3: with the contestants off camera, which is fantastic as well.
Speaker 3: Whereas in Made at First Sight you're pretty much living
Speaker 3: in a box and you're not really knowing what's coming
Speaker 3: up next until that very kind of day or second
Speaker 3: where it's like, okay, today, it's now your next commitment ceremony.
Speaker 3: It's not as if every Saturday is the commitment ceremony,
Speaker 3: you know, it's whenever we're going to have one. I guess.
Speaker 3: With Celebrity Apprentice, you kind of already have the gist
Speaker 3: of how the day's going to play out, what you
Speaker 3: need to do, and then you'll go and do a
Speaker 3: master interview afterwards, so you actually get to sleep on it,
Speaker 3: reflect and then sit down whether the exact same outfit,
Speaker 3: and then do your master interviews the next day where
Speaker 3: you'll go through the entire day, whereas on marriede at
Speaker 3: First Site you will have emotions about something and then
Speaker 3: get pulled aside and then get questioned and questioned and questioned,
Speaker 3: not knowing how long these questions are going to go
Speaker 3: for until you finally get pulled back into your little
Speaker 3: bubble of isolation with your partner. So I think the
Speaker 3: pretty much the biggest difference is like the support network,
Speaker 3: the communication, the I guess you're not taking away like
Speaker 3: your ability to just go and talk to people. And
Speaker 3: you know, I know COVID does play a massive role
Speaker 3: in that when you're trying to film as well, but
Speaker 3: at least you are able to talk off screen, You're
Speaker 3: able to catch up with people, get to know these people.
Speaker 3: I find that even though Selebly apprenticed didn't when in
Speaker 3: film for as long as Married at first sight, I
Speaker 3: know the cast so much better like personally because we
Speaker 3: actually were able to speak, rather than I'm married at
Speaker 3: first sight, where I still could say only no, you
Speaker 3: know five minutes of these people where we actually did
Speaker 3: speak quickly and or after the show kind of thing.
Speaker 3: It's very different.
Speaker 1: You know, how long are those boardroom sessions because they
Speaker 1: are so punchy on television then they're so fast, but
Speaker 1: I'm sure they must take a while to film. How
Speaker 1: long are you sitting there in front of Lord Sugar?
Speaker 3: Oh they take a whole day. But the great thing
Speaker 3: is compared to a dinner party where they wo'ld start
Speaker 3: it at nighttime and you would run till three am.
Speaker 3: They'll let us sleep in, start at nine o'clock, ten o'clock. Obviously,
Speaker 3: with Lord Sugar around, it will take as long as
Speaker 3: he wants it to take, but it's usually just a day.
Speaker 3: It's a day's worth. The crazy thing about it is
Speaker 3: the amount of camera angles they want to take from
Speaker 3: a boardroom. They need to move lights, which means everyone
Speaker 3: has to accept the room. We have to walk into
Speaker 3: that room. Well, we have to actually walk into the
Speaker 3: foyer three four times, and then we walk into the
Speaker 3: room three four times, and then we exit the room
Speaker 3: three four times. It takes a long long time, especially
Speaker 3: because they want everyone serious face, so they'll actually bring
Speaker 3: a camera around for everyone's serious face. If anyone cracks it,
Speaker 3: they pretty much have to start again. So we're just
Speaker 3: sitting there like, no one crack a smile, like, let's
Speaker 3: just get through this.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then obviously when we're talking about how that the
Speaker 3: day unraveled, Lord Sugar will make sure he talks pretty much, well, yeah,
Speaker 3: he would make sure he talks absolutely everyone. Everyone needs
Speaker 3: to be able to have said something for them to
Speaker 3: be able to like kind of mold what happens down
Speaker 3: the track, et cetera, et cetera. So yeah, you're seen
Speaker 3: there for a while. We get fed snacks though, like
Speaker 3: it's just great, you know, it's it's good fun, like
Speaker 3: there's nothing watching it back. It's very punchy and brutal. However,
Speaker 3: there's a lot in between that's not because we're all
Speaker 3: in this loving family and he's even telling us like,
Speaker 3: stop being nice to each other. You're competing like me something,
Speaker 3: and we're like, oh, all right, okay, So yeah, no,
Speaker 3: it's very different.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It felt like Turia Pit summed up your math's personality
Speaker 1: in the boardroom assassination. Is that how you felt? Because
Speaker 1: when I went to television last night, I was like,
Speaker 1: is that how Beck was on this particular exercise or
Speaker 1: are you talking about Beck as a you know, as
Speaker 1: a brand, like as what Australia knows. How did you
Speaker 1: feel when it was being put in front of Lord Sugar?
Speaker 3: I one hundred percent felt that it was her trying
Speaker 3: to relate me back to married at first sight. I
Speaker 3: never spoke to her about the show, so I'm not
Speaker 3: sure if she ever watched it. Or maybe she googled
Speaker 3: me to find out who I was, Like I knew
Speaker 3: I was going in as a D grade celebrity, Like
Speaker 3: I'm the first person to put my hand up and
Speaker 3: say that. I do feel like as soon as she
Speaker 3: met me, that's kind of how she took myself and
Speaker 3: Ronnie as well. We just come from reality TV and
Speaker 3: that's it. We didn't have, you know, Olympic medals or
Speaker 3: a singing career. So I do think that that was
Speaker 3: reflected in the way she wanted to get to know
Speaker 3: myself and Ronnie. Why do you think I was sabotaging?
Speaker 4: I feel like during the planning and during the day
Speaker 4: at times you were patronizing and condescending, and you would
Speaker 4: say one thing, but then you would flip one eight
Speaker 4: degrees on that the next minute.
Speaker 2: Knives are coming out here, and this is better than
Speaker 2: married at first sight. This is good TV.
Speaker 3: But in saying that they had nothing on me, I
Speaker 3: know how the game was working, and I worked my
Speaker 3: bloody ears off in that challenge. I was able to
Speaker 3: raise so much money and I was calling CEOs that
Speaker 3: I never met, saying like, hey, I'm on this show
Speaker 3: and I know you don't know me. But like give
Speaker 3: us some money. And I was just ruthless with trying
Speaker 3: to get true to get the money for her charity
Speaker 3: and win. There was even, you know, a moment at
Speaker 3: the end of our golf day where I stayed back.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to make sure that we got all
Speaker 3: our figures right. And we even had a moment together
Speaker 3: just like burst into tisks, like you know, we just
Speaker 3: raised so much money, and I don't know, I was
Speaker 3: very hormonal. I was pregnant at the time and no
Speaker 3: one knew, so they made it a little bit harder.
Speaker 3: There was times where I think I was running off
Speaker 3: to obviously go romt. I had you know, severe morning
Speaker 3: sickness at the time, and I think people thought maybe
Speaker 3: I was just game playing with producers at that stage,
Speaker 3: which is quite funny because that's what would normally have
Speaker 3: happened in maybe even on the show. But yeah, my
Speaker 3: situation was very different. So yeah, I don't know. Even
Speaker 3: when I heard it the first time, I think my
Speaker 3: face does say a fair bit of it. I'm just
Speaker 3: sitting there like that doesn't make sense to me or anyone,
Speaker 3: and I don't think it's even going to make sense.
Speaker 3: Sort of Australia at this stage. But you know, there's
Speaker 3: no bad blood there at all. If that's how she fell,
Speaker 3: if that's what she wanted to say around my Math's character,
Speaker 3: then that's fine. But you know, this is our first task.
Speaker 3: This is where we've only just met. You have to
Speaker 3: form an opinion on something. I've coped it since math.
Speaker 3: You know. That's the opinion people form of me until
Speaker 3: they know otherwise. So that's something that I have to
Speaker 3: obviously work on. It's a short end of the stick,
Speaker 3: but I'm used to it now and you know, just
Speaker 3: work through it until you get to the other side.
Speaker 1: People used to say the most horrendous things about me
Speaker 1: online for years, and my mom was like, eventually, Ben,
Speaker 1: once you knock on the door of everyone in Australia,
Speaker 1: they will get to know you. They will know that
Speaker 1: you are not that person. But what you know But
Speaker 1: the twist of that is why bother?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, we know who we are, you know who you are,
Speaker 1: and the people that are in our lives that we
Speaker 1: care about are the ones that matter. Everybody else It's like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: what's that quote that Madonna always says? What other people
Speaker 1: say about you is none of your business.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, and I think it's so relevant. And
Speaker 3: you said that decades ago and here we are about
Speaker 3: the same thing. But I think you've done fantastic for yourself.
Speaker 3: You know, it's nearly a decade ago. I think you're
Speaker 3: on our screens and yeah you've been. Now it's half
Speaker 3: on that many doors and that many opportunities. And I
Speaker 3: think that's the difference. Even even though it sucks to
Speaker 3: get a villain edit, you have two options no matter
Speaker 3: what your edit is, and that's to you know, I guess,
Speaker 3: come back and really try make something of yourself because
Speaker 3: you know who you are and you're true to yourself,
Speaker 3: or you just stick it in the bin and you think,
Speaker 3: you know, this is it, this is my life, this
Speaker 3: is who I am. And it's a really hard road,
Speaker 3: Like it's not easy because there's so many people out
Speaker 3: there telling you who you are and it can really
Speaker 3: get into your head. It's about finding that support network
Speaker 3: around that pulls you out of that and tells you
Speaker 3: you know you are more than reality TV and you
Speaker 3: know you can do more than what you think you
Speaker 3: can right now. And yeah, I think I wouldn't be
Speaker 3: where I am today and I wouldn't do another TV
Speaker 3: show if I didn't have that support around me telling
Speaker 3: me that you know you are more than that.
Speaker 2: So oh, a good question to ask.
Speaker 1: Who do you think from the latest series of Maths
Speaker 1: should go on Celebrity Apprentice next year, because in my opinion,
Speaker 1: after seeing you and Martha, I think that the translation
Speaker 1: is really good. So who do you think would be good?
Speaker 3: Oh? I think Tomorrow would be good because I do
Speaker 3: think she's very business winded and I don't think maybe
Speaker 3: her character, like her narratives quite who she However, I
Speaker 3: would actually I think I'd love to see even someone
Speaker 3: like Olivia go on because d're in an environment where
Speaker 3: you are fighting for yourself. Yeah, it would be interesting
Speaker 3: to see someone that is extremely villainized like that, who's
Speaker 3: done something that is very controversial. I guess, yeah, go
Speaker 3: on and try to be more than what is. But
Speaker 3: I find even her edit to be interesting because when
Speaker 3: the Chauffurst started, she was, you know, the next Michael
Speaker 3: and Martha, the Sweethearts of Australia, nothing wrong, So it's
Speaker 3: interesting how fast they were able to turn her around,
Speaker 3: because I thought she was going to give us nothing
Speaker 3: and somehow she gave us absolutely everything. So I think
Speaker 3: either Tomorrow or Lujah.
Speaker 1: Interesting trajectories with both of those women. And I think,
Speaker 1: regardless as to what Australia's current opinion of them is,
Speaker 1: it will be interesting to see what this kind of
Speaker 1: an experience would do to their personalities and what it's
Speaker 1: going to want to earth.
Speaker 3: So absolutely, I think the concept of the show, in
Speaker 3: particular where we are raising money for charity like actually
Speaker 3: happening and the amount of people that do get around
Speaker 3: and support it, it's wonderful.
Speaker 2: Can we just do that? Now?
Speaker 1: We should talk about your charity. Who was your charity
Speaker 1: and why did you pick them?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 3: I went with the Royal Hospital for Women's Foundation. They
Speaker 3: are a Sydney based charity where they look after thousands
Speaker 3: and thousands of women and babies every single year. I
Speaker 3: chose them because I'm currently pregnant myself and I think
Speaker 3: there is not enough I guess volume out there around
Speaker 3: prenatal and postnatal and all the things in between that
Speaker 3: women have to go through. I think everyone gets really
Speaker 3: excited about pregnancy and it's all about you know, when's
Speaker 3: it due?
Speaker 4: What is that?
Speaker 3: And everything's happy days, But there is a lot that
Speaker 3: we actually have to go through behind the scenes, and
Speaker 3: it's not always a happy ending down to you know,
Speaker 3: unfortunately steelburse and all the issues that could happen after,
Speaker 3: not just to the baby, but obviously to ourselves as well,
Speaker 3: including natal depressions. So yeah, I decided to go with them.
Speaker 3: They're trying to raise a lot of money at the
Speaker 3: moment for their premature baby units. So they're newborn. I
Speaker 3: see you pretty much, and yeah, they're very close to
Speaker 3: my heart.
Speaker 1: Congratulations on the pregnancy, which is exciting. Yay, thank you,
Speaker 1: and yeah, Sorr. I was going to ask, did the
Speaker 1: producers help you pick that charity or did you go
Speaker 1: straight in feeling like you already knew what you were
Speaker 1: going to pick.
Speaker 3: Look, you pick three and they have to do a
Speaker 3: lot of background I guess research to make sure your
Speaker 3: charity isn't going to come up and all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: have you know, spent all their money and at a
Speaker 3: differn country on houses and things like that. It's not
Speaker 3: it wasn't my number one charity. I really did want
Speaker 3: to do something around suicide awareness. I have had an
Speaker 3: auntie and two close friends now commit suicide, so it
Speaker 3: was definitely a topic I wanted to open up to. However,
Speaker 3: there was a few other charities that people did that
Speaker 3: were really aligned with that as well, So I guess
Speaker 3: there was enough broad variety out there for me to
Speaker 3: be happy to go with something like this because I
Speaker 3: do think it's an important topic. So they do help
Speaker 3: try to find something that's in line with that, and
Speaker 3: it works really well. We've been in line with being
Speaker 3: pregnant as well.
Speaker 2: I think it suits.
Speaker 1: What is something that I ask everyone who joins the
Speaker 1: podcast this last question? What is something from behind the
Speaker 1: scenes that we did not see that we will not
Speaker 1: see from your time on Celebrity Apprinters kind of a
Speaker 1: behind the scenes story.
Speaker 3: Okay, one thing from last night's episode that didn't get
Speaker 3: shown is I obviously didn't agree with the themed ideas
Speaker 3: for the golf day. However, what actually goes down is
Speaker 3: the challenge is all about raising money. So I've been
Speaker 3: in business and I said that we need to monetize everything.
Speaker 3: We shouldn't be giving free entertainment, free food, free alcohol, Like,
Speaker 3: where's the money aspect going to come in? Because we
Speaker 3: actually got told to invite all our A grade celebrity
Speaker 3: friends to come to this golf tournament to give money.
Speaker 3: So I said, like the thing that we should be
Speaker 3: focusing on because everyone was so excited about these themes
Speaker 3: and different themes at different holes, which means different mindsets
Speaker 3: and different caterers and different everything. And I just said,
Speaker 3: we don't have time for that. I really think let's
Speaker 3: monetize everything. What could go wrong if we think about
Speaker 3: just doing one theme where we can go all right,
Speaker 3: to play golf today? You have to pay this much
Speaker 3: to be in a golf buggy. You have to pay
Speaker 3: this much. Like it's a no brainer in my eyes.
Speaker 3: And that was the idea that got shut down to
Speaker 3: actually try and raise more money on the things that
Speaker 3: we actually had. And three, I let the idea go. Obviously,
Speaker 3: I was like straight away like, no worries. If that's
Speaker 3: not what you want to do, then let's not do it. However,
Speaker 3: in a money task, I was thinking, shut away. Has
Speaker 3: my idea being shut down because it was my idea?
Speaker 3: Or is my idea getting shut down because you don't
Speaker 3: see the value in my idea? So yeah, that's just one.
Speaker 3: That's just one thing that happened. Another thing is I
Speaker 3: got to actually have Luke Jacobs with me all day.
Speaker 3: My job was to host him around the golf course
Speaker 3: so make sure everything was completely perfect for him, and
Speaker 3: I was trying to auction his watch, his hat, his underwear,
Speaker 3: anything he had on him. I was just like, come on,
Speaker 3: you've got deep pockets, Like, let's get this going. And
Speaker 3: then I kind of took my idea to the golf
Speaker 3: course where we weren't raising much money while we were
Speaker 3: walking around playing golf, so I grabbed the megaphone and
Speaker 3: was like, all right, like, who wants to put ten dollars? Literally,
Speaker 3: just ten dollars on the fact that Luke's not going
Speaker 3: to be able to hit it past the lake? And
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, we're getting a few vets,
Speaker 3: and then it started to get a bit exciting. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I kind of just stole the microphone from Gala and
Speaker 3: was like, all right, who wants to bet on this?
Speaker 3: Who wants to do this?
Speaker 1: To do that?
Speaker 3: And it turned actually really fun, and then we started
Speaker 3: doing that more and more throughout the day, just to
Speaker 3: get few extra small donations in to feel the thing.
Speaker 3: So I was having an absolute ball. I was loving it.
Speaker 3: It was awesome.
Speaker 1: Well, it's always good to think about things outside the box,
Speaker 1: keep rolling with ideas, I think. So, I mean that's
Speaker 1: how I would have played the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I think if you ever only have one idea,
Speaker 3: you're in trouble. So yeah, no, I found it. I
Speaker 3: found it fun. And yeah, the money that was raised,
Speaker 3: regardless of like the outcome, you know, especially from Benji Marshall,
Speaker 3: Oh my god, he's just throwing it in. We're probably
Speaker 3: on an uphill battle knowing that we didn't have him
Speaker 3: money our team anyway from the start, but we gave
Speaker 3: it a good crack. And you know, all that money
Speaker 3: obviously gets to go to charity. So yeah, no, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: Well, I am absolutely loving this series of celebrity apprinters.
Speaker 1: I hope that they bring you back. I don't know anything,
Speaker 1: but I've got my fingers crossed because I feel like
Speaker 1: I haven't got my beck fix.
Speaker 2: Hopefully producers notice this as well.
Speaker 1: But regardless, it's been an absolute privilege and a pleasure
Speaker 1: to chat with you today about your experience.
Speaker 2: And I want to thank you for being on TV.
Speaker 3: Really, thank you, thank you so much, and yes, keep
Speaker 3: watching more to come.